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Old 19-08-2007, 14:50   #8746

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Old 19-08-2007, 15:01   #8747

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I think this one of Cassano is one of the best 'unveiling' shots ever

Cassano's grin is the cheesiest ever ... the guy on the left is trying to get away but Cassano's paw is hauling him back in and the guy on the right is wondering what he's let Sampdoria in for.
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Old 19-08-2007, 15:10   #8748

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Well, I'll try again to explain my point of view...
Firstly, I've always said that Kaka' is not an example, but an exception... He was bought to be Rui Costa's substitute and to learn from him, but suprisingly Kaka showed in the first weeks that he is completelly ready to step up and that he is even better than Rui Costa. He is an exception cuz he's the only one, who managed to do that. He was supposed to be exactly what is Gourcuff now - a youngster, who mostly stays on the bench and who is learning how to deal with the pressure to play for a such big club like Milan. Because that's the biggest problem for the youngsters - nobody doubts their qualities and skills, their mental power is what they need to develop, to be able to show what they can do. Talent is nothing, if you're not mentally strong to show it.

Secondly, we sign these players that young like Kaka', Gourcuff and Pato, because we want to develop them in our way, to suit to our system. We don't sign them to be starters at once. They are meant to stay on the bench, to train with our stars, to learn from them and to wait for their chance to step up. Because of their youth, they have the patience that is needed for that waiting, cuz they have a lot of years infront of them and a year on the bench is not that big deal for them, they will not complain that much. When you sign 23~26 years old players for the bench, they don't have that patience, either they want a starting place (or atleast to play more regularly) or they start to complain and they want to leave. And 26 yo is not so easy to be bent to suit your system... Or atlest is harder compaired with 20 yo player...


So we couldn't for example sign Kasper Smeichel?
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Old 19-08-2007, 15:21   #8749

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Why is it nigh on impossible to get a starting position? How can you evolve a team if you never introduce new players?

Personally i think there are only 6 positions that are guaranteed. LB, CB, RB, LM, ST ... all of these are up for grabs.
Honestly, because we have world class (and in many cases the world's best) in a lot of roles. We have been introducing new players, it's just a very slow evolution.

Of the 5 roles you mentioned though, LB we have Sergio, Favalli, Janku and possibly Maldini and Kala, so whoever comes is fighting for the spot, and as Abidal showed, if another club offers it guaranteed, then players rather take that option. CB we have good players and a couple upcoming too (Darmian for eg), and options available on the market, as even someone like Barzagli who's a big signing may struggle to even find a spot ahead of Bonera (who was better last season).

RB, I doubt we even looked. Cafu is a decent backup for now and Oddo has done well since joining. We spent a fair sum on him so to replace him with some other RB who probably doesn't know Milan half as well as he did when he joined will make him a pointless signing (bear in mind he is argubly the best RB in Italy anyway).

LM we have clearly trusted Gourcuff with, as well as Seedorf, Janku and Sergio if need be, so buying another would leave Gourcuff less chance (something which would be a waste).

ST we have Ronaldo, Pippo and Gila, with Pato now 4th choice. More and more Kaka plays the supporting forward role too, so again, i doubt few can find a spot unless it's Eto'o or R10 (who seem impossible to get).
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Old 19-08-2007, 15:28   #8750

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Imagine Samptoria's attack with Quagliarela,Cassano,Flachi,Bonazzoli.Very hot attack!
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Old 19-08-2007, 15:34   #8751

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Roma is winning inter 0-1 at san siro.The game at the moment is on 83'.
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Old 19-08-2007, 15:44   #8752

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Roma is winning inter 0-1 at san siro.The game at the moment is on 83'.
And they took the lead with a player less
From PK though

Roma are really a tough nut to brake for both Milan and Inter. Actually, in h2h matches Roma are even outplaying Milan and Inter lately.

Edit : What a first half in Real-Sevilla !!!!

Sevilla's leading 3:2 at HT
17' [0 - 1] Renato
24' [1 - 1] R. Drenthe
29' [1 - 2] Renato
37' [1 - 3] F. Kanoute (pen.)
45' [2 - 3] F. Cannavaro
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Old 19-08-2007, 15:53   #8753

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Crapello said Giuly was the best buy in Italia this summer...? He's nuts.

If it wasnt for him, roma would be comfortably leading by 2 goals, withouth PK. Inter was a dissaster like they are. Materazzi should get red for his 3 ankle challenges, a lot of shurt pulling and elbow playing from both sides. But roma won, that's what matters.
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Old 19-08-2007, 16:01   #8754

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Imagine Samptoria's attack with Quagliarela,Cassano,Flachi,Bonazzoli.Very hot attack!
... and now imagine Quagliarella going to Udinese and Flachi being banned for using cocaine ...

they still have Cassano, Caraciollo, Montella, Bonazolli and Bellucci though

as mentioned, given how well Real M is doing under Schuster, now is the moment for the tactical specialists, who have been roaming the forum for a while, to send in their resumes to calderon and Mijatovic
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Old 19-08-2007, 16:06   #8755

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... and now imagine Quagliarella going to Udinese and Flachi being banned for using cocaine ...
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Old 19-08-2007, 16:12   #8756

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what are you laughing at ... I said "imagine" ... it's not like it has really happened

btw, now would be the time to do some shopping in Madrid - Emerson is out of the squad, Canna is having a nightmare of a series at the back (has been nothing short of awful vs Sevilla today despite his goal), and JB is where he is supposed to be - at the other end of the Real M bench, opposite to Schuster's
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Old 19-08-2007, 16:22   #8757

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And they took the lead with a player less
From PK though

Roma are really a tough nut to brake for both Milan and Inter. Actually, in h2h matches Roma are even outplaying Milan and Inter lately.

Edit : What a first half in Real-Sevilla !!!!

Sevilla's leading 3:2 at HT
17' [0 - 1] Renato
24' [1 - 1] R. Drenthe
29' [1 - 2] Renato
37' [1 - 3] F. Kanoute (pen.)
45' [2 - 3] F. Cannavaro


Tony you got before me, now we started watching it in Greece a half behind because the national TV had Olympiakos-Levante 4-0 (The were awful).

For Real listening to invisible moderator Zlatanov also , from the season when Del Bosque left Real Madrid because i am Real also the suck in every transfer period, this Schuster came for Madrid playing more fashionable football , Pepe so much money, they buy whoever they sold Sagado but since they didn't buy any competitive RB instead they look for Robben , attackers, the tranfer policy of Real Marid is selling shirts, they don't want Emerson, they keep him, they may finally sell Cicihno, They may keep Baptista or sell him to us, i now hear that they have proposals for Guti .....

What is finally happening with Dani Alves, everyday he is leaving but he is still in Sevilla.
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Old 19-08-2007, 16:31   #8758

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argh i know its OT but anyways, anyone knows sopcast stream for real-sevilla?
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Old 19-08-2007, 16:35   #8759

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argh i know its OT but anyways, anyone knows sopcast stream for real-sevilla?
http://www.myp2p.eu/Matches/Match8.htm

But only 15 min till the end
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