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bad or not, i think samuel is still doctor of defending for boumsong, right?

Originally Posted by Arildonardo

Berlusconi claims that Ronaldinho is a dream for Milan and their fans. He even says that Laporta of Barcelona didn't exclude the possibility of a swap with Kaka...

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=388357

All I can say is that I agree that Ronaldinho is a dream, but NOT at the expense of Kaka. I'd choose Kaka over Ronaldinho any day!

I also read that somewhere, I know Silvio wont ever let him go even if Laporta wants a swap because firstly Kaka is going to be made into a Milan icon and secondly Kaka doesn't even like Barca as he prefers Madrid. I would never swap Kaka with R10, as im sure Barca would never want to swap R10 with Kaka and Man United would never swap R7 with any player.

Originally Posted by Arildonardo

Berlusconi claims that Ronaldinho is a dream for Milan and their fans. He even says that Laporta of Barcelona didn't exclude the possibility of a swap with Kaka...

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=388357

All I can say is that I agree that Ronaldinho is a dream, but NOT at the expense of Kaka. I'd choose Kaka over Ronaldinho any day!

This news does no good to us. In spite of him being the most pious being in our team, Kaka will be pissed at this. Now, for Kaka it would apper that Ronaldinho is more important to Milan than himself.

I hope Berlu's words were manipulated by some foxy journalist else this might kick start another Real-Kaka campaign.

Nice to be back at MM.

welcome back, rahul.

I believe that neither silvio nor laporta has even said anything about one of them proposing a swap deal DInho-Kaka and the other being open to it.
This rumour was started by an article in Sport (or was it Marca) more as a speculation than anything concrete and now it seems it has made it's way to becoming a QUOTE by Silvio himself - inventive journalism at it's best, I guess.

Plus, even if Silvio said something along those lines, which I doubt, he would hardly have said it in a serious way but morer as a joke especially after all those "Kaka will be our new symbol" speaches and he knows very well that this is exactly what Real M and As are waiting for to start another sharade of pictures of Kaka in a Madrid jersey ... although right now those two are probably a bit too busy coming up with excuses for that glorious performance vs Sevilla

Originally Posted by peters

bad or not, i think samuel is still doctor of defending for boumsong, right?

He is much more reliable than Boumsong and i don't know why people think Samuel is a bad defender. I'd take him to my team without thinking. But i used rolleyes with a purpose because Tuttosport are being silly again. There's no chance Moratti to sell Samuel to Milan or Juve.

As for Boumsong. People think he's a real disaster because of his awful season in Newcastle but it's far from the truth. As you can see Domenech is still counting on him and he included him in the French squad, just like he did for the WC when he took him to Germany. You may think Domenech doesn't know what he's doing but then why did Deschamps want him in Juve and why is Houllier trying to get him to Lyon ?
Boumsong is respected among French coaches and it's happening with a reason. He is very good, i'd dare say great defender for 89 minutes, but that 1 minute of the match where he will certainly make a silly error is why he isn't a world class. Boumsong has practically everything a great defender needs to have : pace, heading, jumping, positioning, marking but unfortunately he also has what every bad defender has - lack of concentration at certain point of the match.
I'm sure that if he plays for Sampdoria or Palermo or some other team that can allow conceding a silly goal if the defense is good for the rest of the match, he will be their best defender. But a big club can not allow J.A Boumsong in the team.

Berlu.................Pls dont swap our beloved Kaka with any player on planet earth....not even R10.............pleeeeeeeeeeez....

K7.a true milan fan from Kerala(God's own country),India

Originally Posted by Arildonardo

Berlusconi claims that Ronaldinho is a dream for Milan and their fans. He even says that Laporta of Barcelona didn't exclude the possibility of a swap with Kaka...

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=388357

All I can say is that I agree that Ronaldinho is a dream, but NOT at the expense of Kaka. I'd choose Kaka over Ronaldinho any day!

This is one of those stories where I just look the other way and assume that someone was misquoted. NO WAY this can happen. No WAY would it make any sense for Berlu to offer a swap and finally NO WAY it makes sense for Berlu to admit this conversation publicly.

the day we loose kaka is the day football will stop be a part of my life.

so you support milan just coz of kaka ?

Originally Posted by King tiger

so you support milan just coz of kaka ?

No, im sure what he meant was if Kaka got sold he will no longer be interested in Football. I know where he's coming from because there are some supporters out there who get introduced into a team because of a specific player, for me it was Shevchenko and when he left last year, did I stop supporting Milan? Nope

Its just one of those things, there will be children today who started supporting Milan because of Kaka and when they get to know the team they will realize its not made up of one player but players like Gattuso, Pirlo, Nesta & Co.

Originally Posted by MedellínBandit®

No, im sure what he meant was if Kaka got sold he will no longer be interested in Football. I know where he's coming from because there are some supporters out there who get introduced into a team because of a specific player, for me it was Shevchenko and when he left last year, did I stop supporting Milan? Nope

Its just one of those things, there will be children today who started supporting Milan because of Kaka and when they get to know the team they will realize its not made up of one player but players like Gattuso, Pirlo, Nesta & Co.

Yes, so true !
When you're young it's almost always a certain player that makes you start following a certain team. With time you get attached to the team and you love it no matter who comes or goes from the club and no matter what happens to the club.

These players are usually your countrymen or some superstars. That's one of the reasons (not main reason though) why teams want superstars. The superstar will bring you good results and many shirt sales but the superstar will bring you many new kid fans who'll start loving the team and will spend money on jerseys and stuff even when they will not be kids anymore and when the man because of whom they started loving the team left long time ago.

I have 2 brothers. My older brother is 39 and he was the greatest fan ever of Ruud Gullit. Back in late 80's it was unusual a guy from Yugoslavia to be a fan of some foreign team for a simple reason that foreign leagues weren't broadcast ( there was no internet back then also) and we couldn't watch CL or UEFA (unless a Yugoslav team played) except for the final match. But my brother saw Gullit, loved Gullit and started following Milan because of Gullit. After Gullit left Milan he continued loving the team and now he's older with 2 kids and he's not following football that much but guess what's the favorite club of his oldest boy (he's 15) ?
I on the other hand, didn't love Gullit and Milan ( ) but it happened 3 very important players for me to join Juve. First it was one of the legends of my home team Hajduk, Robert Jarni who joined Juve. The decisive was Jugovic (i'm a Croat and he's a Serb. He moved to Juve when the war in Yugoslavia was still on. You can see the power of football here) who moved to Juve in 1995. Then we were able to follow more football on TV and i was able to follow him and Juve winning everything. And the icing on the cake was another Hajduk hero-Alen Boksic who joined Juve in 1996.
Now when i think about it, i didn't have a choice. It was Juve or nothing for me. All three of them left Juve a long time ago and as you can see i still love this team.
My younger brother is also a Juventino, although not so passioned, and he started following Juve because of Zidane.

Same thing happened to Milan fans worldwide. Van Basten, Gullit, Savicevic, Maldini, Shevchenko, Kaka. These guys brought so many fans to Milan.

and we couldn't watch CL or UEFA (unless a Yugoslav team played) except for the final match.

ot but are you sure? i was too young to remember but other say that tv broadcasted cl ?

and yes, when i was a kid i got a van basten-number milan shirt so i decided that i will support milan after the war i watched couple of milan games and started following them more regularly and now im a true fan

but i asked atreides coz he said smthg like if kaka goes he wont follow football anymore.

Originally Posted by King tiger

ot but are you sure? i was too young to remember but other say that tv broadcasted cl ?

I'm positive. But i'm talking about Champions Cup matches in the 80's when a Yugo team didn't play.
Yes, the final of Champions Cup was always broadcasted but we could have watched the semis or quarters only if Zvezda,Partizan, Dinamo or Hajduk were in it.
You know, there were only 5 rounds in champions Cup. Yugoslav champion was almost always passing the first 2 rounds and we could have watched those matches. But if they were eliminated in the 1/4's then we could have only dreamed about watching the semis.

That's why it was so hard to have a favorite foreign team and to follow it. The only way you could have watched your fav team was if they were playing against a Yugo team.

Originally Posted by zlatanov

welcome back, rahul.

I believe that neither silvio nor laporta has even said anything about one of them proposing a swap deal DInho-Kaka and the other being open to it.
This rumour was started by an article in Sport (or was it Marca) more as a speculation than anything concrete and now it seems it has made it's way to becoming a QUOTE by Silvio himself - inventive journalism at it's best, I guess.

Plus, even if Silvio said something along those lines, which I doubt, he would hardly have said it in a serious way but morer as a joke especially after all those "Kaka will be our new symbol" speaches and he knows very well that this is exactly what Real M and As are waiting for to start another sharade of pictures of Kaka in a Madrid jersey ... although right now those two are probably a bit too busy coming up with excuses for that glorious performance vs Sevilla

It was only a JOKE! between the presidents.

Silvio has said in the past that choosing between Kaka and Ronaldinho he would choose Kaka.He has also said that Kaka is the best player on the world and he can't lose him for Ronaldinho.

So what have changed since then? I think these news are a big joke.