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Old 21-08-2007, 10:51   #8851

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This what I have to say on Emerson.

Madrid payed 16 mln to Juve for Emerson. In that time Emerson had a great season with Juve and Cappello was set to be Madrid's coach. It all led to Emerson becoming starter in Madrid, under Cappello's influence of course.
I'm not sure about this Mrki.
Madrid payed 20m to Juve for Emerson+Cannavaro. It was never officially said how much of the 20m were for Emo and how much for Cannavaro.

But it's true that Madrid did lose a solid figure (at least 5/6m euro) on Emo
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Old 21-08-2007, 10:53   #8852

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I worry to much for sure......every deal we make with Real from now on seems like we're accepting bribes to give them Kaka Real sell their players to us sooo cheap...it feels like we're accepting installments

I'd have been happier we paid more money than dealt with those scumbags

personally I'd have gone for a simple underrated young talent like....I dunno......Quaresma maybe
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Old 21-08-2007, 11:01   #8853

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Hey guys, I think it`s not official, because it isn`t on acmilan.com!
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Old 21-08-2007, 11:02   #8854

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No Zlat, i completely agree with you, but i was saying that it was a fair deal after all. Or if not completely fair, it was still close to fair.

You bought him for 5m but realistically speaking, how much would you have payed for him ? I believe not more than 6m ?
Milan is getting a very good and useful player but the price you payed, even though looks very cheap , is still fair. This is a very good deal for Milan.
Real on the other hand, in the situation they've put themselves, couldn't have done much better, could they ? So, they couldn't have expected to get more than 6m for him.
They did lose a million but they could have done much worse.

I think both teams are winners in this case (although, when you look at the nigger picture, Real are far from being winners considering they payed twice more for Emo only a year earlier. But at this point of time, Real could have hardly done any better)
At this point Real could'nt do any better, but in the begining of summer they could, If they were not so arrogant and stupid, and kept Capello as a coach.
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Old 21-08-2007, 11:02   #8855

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I'm not sure about this Mrki.
Madrid payed 20m to Juve for Emerson+Cannavaro. It was never officially said how much of the 20m were for Emo and how much for Cannavaro.

But it's true that Madrid did lose a solid figure (at least 5/6m euro) on Emo
I remmeber reading these:
http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/f...lo/675356.html
http://www.cadenaser.com/articulo/de...csrdep_13/Tes/

Note: cadenaser reported the deal to be worth 23 mil on July 19th, while, on that same day, Marca said it was worth 20 mil ... on July 27th, Marca corrected themselves and announced the deal for Emo+Canna to Rela to be worth 23 mil euros - 7/8 for Canna and 15/16 mil for Emerson.

not sure if the distribution was the one mentioned above but that's what the press reported back then ...
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Old 21-08-2007, 11:03   #8856

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I think both teams are winners in this case (although, when you look at the nigger picture......
I meant bigger picture, not nigger picture



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I remmeber reading these:
http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/f...lo/675356.html
http://www.cadenaser.com/articulo/de...csrdep_13/Tes/

Note: cadenaser reported the deal to be worth 23 mil on July 19th, while, on that same day, Marca said it was worth 20 mil ... on July 27th, Marca corrected themselves and announced the deal for Emo+Canna to Rela to be worth 23 mil euros - 7/8 for Canna and 15/16 mil for Emerson.

not sure if the distribution was the one mentioned above but that's what the press reported back then ...
I'm pretty sure Juve got 20m euro for both of them. But it could be that 16m euro were for Emerson. If you add the wages he was getting, then it turns out that Madrid did lose a lot on him.
But i still think they couldn't have sold him for more money. If they could then i'm sure the other interested guy, Mancini, would have already had Emo at his disposal
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Old 21-08-2007, 11:05   #8857

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...Its hard to say this but...when he is ready, he is a better player than our legend Ambro...
Nope
Fit Ambro is much much better player (ask ManU players )
On his best, Ambro not only is solid at the back, but he also could deliver some goals

I'm ready to bet with anyone, that (if he is fit ), Ambro will play much more matches than Emerson.
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Old 21-08-2007, 11:10   #8858

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I meant bigger picture, not nigger picture



you made my day, thanks tony
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Old 21-08-2007, 11:13   #8859

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all that talk about emerson is nice but i dont want another suazo case.

is the deal official ?
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Old 21-08-2007, 11:21   #8860

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Big Huge Stupid mistake...
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Old 21-08-2007, 11:25   #8861

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Emerson will be an adequate signing, if we do get him.
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Old 21-08-2007, 11:26   #8862

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all that talk about emerson is nice but i dont want another suazo case.

is the deal official ?
you see Emerson-to-Milan is a done deal on Milan Channel? No, then how could be another Suazo case?

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I'm pretty sure Juve got 20m euro for both of them. But it could be that 16m euro were for Emerson. If you add the wages he was getting, then it turns out that Madrid did lose a lot on him.
that's what makes it a good deal IMO - the value of the player just a year ago vs what we are paying for him now.
I do agree that real didn't have much of a case to ask for much more than 5-7 mil but my point was that they did everything possible to ruin his market value in no time.

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But i still think they couldn't have sold him for more money. If they could then i'm sure the other interested guy, Mancini, would have already had Emo at his disposal
I think it was Moratti who vetoed that transfer as he didn't want too many former Juve players in one plays ... and Emerson's words towards Vieira and Zlatan last year worked against that move either.

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Big Huge Stupid mistake...
I am sure you will understand why some of us are more willing to trust the management's judgement more that yours ... it's that thing called "history record"
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Old 21-08-2007, 11:26   #8863

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Big Huge Stupid mistake...
, i was expecting this.

Oh, and Gre-No-Li :

Dida
Serginho
Digao
Cafu
Emerson
Pato
Ronaldo
Kaka
(Ricardo Oliveira on loan
Marcus Plinio Diniz Paixao on loan)

You forgot to leave a comment about Sao Milanao and the need for Italian players in Milan
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Old 21-08-2007, 11:27   #8864

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Why do we need another brazilian veteran, Jim?
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Old 21-08-2007, 11:29   #8865

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That's right, Tony... I guess we' cannot be considered nowadays as an italian side...
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