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Old 01-05-2005, 17:38   #76

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however i am not thinking at ALL about this game. lets eliminate psv first and then we can start thinking about this huge games. THIS WEEK IS WHAT IT COMES ALL DOWN TOO. this is the biggest week in our season.
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Old 01-05-2005, 19:48   #77

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i respect what uve said pavel but u cannot use the fact that u have blasi and appiah in ur ranks as an excuse... ur team includes certain types of players and does ours... their quality is exposed throughout the season and it seems ours are better
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i respect what uve said pavel but u cannot use the fact that u have blasi and appiah in ur ranks as an excuse... ur team includes certain types of players and does ours... their quality is exposed throughout the season and it seems ours are better
How many Juventus players would crack the first team at Milan this season? I can only think of four: Cannavaro, Zambrotta, Emerson, and Ibrahimovic. The rest have played better and are Milan players. And just take a look at our bench where we have to field a player such as Olivera while you can field a genious named Rui Costa. Any neutral will say Milan have more quality players.
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Old 01-05-2005, 21:53   #79

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I think you are forgetting Buffon, Nedved, Trazeguet, Thuram, Camoranesi - these and the ones you mentioned are top quality players and many many top teams, including Milan, won't mind having them on their roster. The fact that they may not perform at their best is not Milan's fault. Speaking of that, several Milan players have also been going through not only good but also some pretty bad periods but this is why a team with the stature of Milan and Juve should have a "long bench" If Juve do not have one I don't see how this is Milan's fault or problem - Moggi should have spent his time on improving and strengthening the team instead of having dinners with Serie A referees and delegates. He should have realised by now that this may buy Juve a couple of extra Scudettos but when it comes to winning the CL he would need to put some honest work into it and do it all by himself, fair and square.
All in all, if you believe that Juve's squad is bellow par, and I do think that you have a number of excellent players, I don't see why this has anything to do with Milan and I don't see why it should be used as somekind of excuse - Juve have more than enough resources to build a squad and if they have failed to do so, then questions should be raised but only when you are in front of a mirror, if you know what I am trying to say; Milan has absolutely nothing to do with it and I don't see why we should feel guilty about having a better team than Juve's - it is not like god gave it to us, we built it by ourselves, well, after some very lucrative business with Inter, that is.

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I fail to see where I stated Juve's lack of depth is Milan's fault. That's one of the most outlandish things I've ever heard.

But my point is with the staff we have this year we have not been entirely bad, considering the calibre of players we must field week after week. Nedved and Trezeguet have been out injured for most of the season and we only have mediocre backups (Olivera and Zalayeta) to fill their shoes. This whole discussion is about how someone said Milan is a FAR better team than Juve, which IMO is not the case because we have done well as a team this season, making due with an average Juventus squad. But even if you do have an overall better squad than us, that doesn't mean we will not beat you.

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Juve's partial advantage is that Milan keep playing so many games.

Milan-Juve will be the 7th game in 3 weeks for Milan.

However I'd rather not use that as an excuse. I'm extremely confident in Milan.
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Milan on paper is better than Juventus and perhaps is slightly stronger, but it is my personal opinion that their performance in Serie A is as lacklustred as Juve's. But either way, its fine - maximum results with minimum effort
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Juve have really strong squad, dont talk stupid tings and make alibies so you can loose on sunday. When juve was on top capello ond moggi were talking that they have better team, stronger, " just look at the standings... " - Capello. And now when it's tight it is silencio stampa( dont know how to spell it) and anti juve movement...bla,bla...
Well, juve gave their all this season and they will probable loose it. So dont look for reasons but come here to san siro and try to win it fair!! You are rich anough to buy players you need, moggi knows it and has done it this season ( capello, zebina, cannavaro, emerson, zlatan, kapo).Why can't juve win champions legue?? Becouse there is no paparesta or some other " strange decisions " in there. I've seen more than 15 juve matches this season, at least 8-9 of them were suspicious. Anyway, let go milan, destroy them and make arogant zebras cry in the sunny sunday afternoon....
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IMO Juve`s squad is equal to Milan`s(just a little bit weaker)! Bur Milan is in best form, and Juve-no! And IMO when people say that Milan win games by luck it`s not true! It`s a special tactitian and luck always smiles to strongest! My view that we will win this game 1-0! And I respect Juve an his players but Milan is stronger and can win even after PSV-Milan hard match!
So Forza Milan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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BTW do you know who will play and who will not in that game(I know Ibra won`t be)!
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How many Juventus players would crack the first team at Milan this season? I can only think of four: Cannavaro, Zambrotta, Emerson, and Ibrahimovic. The rest have played better and are Milan players. And just take a look at our bench where we have to field a player such as Olivera while you can field a genious named Rui Costa. Any neutral will say Milan have more quality players.
yeah but that is juves managements fault... u gotta play with what u have and u dont compare it with other teams
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BTW do you know who will play and who will not in that game(I know Ibra won`t be)!
There are no suspended Milan players and as far as I know, at least as of this moment, we don't have any injury worries too. For Juve, Zlatan is out of it for sure, thanks to his heroic deeds from a fortnight ago, Zebina is also still recovering from that injury and I doubt he would feature in that game. Apart from that everyone else would be available even Emerson, who didn't take part in the game vs Bologna, how fit he would be, that's a different story. Trazeguet will also be available for selection.
So, pretty much a full roaster is available to both coaches except that poor Juve fell victims YET AGAIN to the conspiracies aganst them and unfairly lost Zlatan.
When will those bastards from the FIGC and the Italian Referee Committee finally stop victimizing such an honorable team as Juve? Damn maggots !!!
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How many Juventus players would crack the first team at Milan this season? I can only think of four: Cannavaro, Zambrotta, Emerson, and Ibrahimovic. The rest have played better and are Milan players. And just take a look at our bench where we have to field a player such as Olivera while you can field a genious named Rui Costa. Any neutral will say Milan have more quality players.
Well Nedved instead of a sometimes wonderful, sometimes awful Seedorf would make Milan unstoppable. Zambrotta would definately be ahead of kaladze and Pancaro. sheva would score a million goals with ibrahmiavich's flicks and skills.

Your team is level on points with Milan. Where you lack in flare and quality you make up for in athletism and strength. We can sometimes suffer from having such a forward thinking midfield where as you have a solid system. You are just unlucky Nedved got injured for so long. If he was fully fit against Liverpool you would be playing Chelsea. One thing though, you are way too reliant on him.
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stop seeing seedorf as a-sometimes-awful player. tactically, he is a very important player. granted, he loses many good oportunities in front of goal, but stay noticing his game every now and then and you will realise his importance. he dribbles, he defends, he keeps possession when needed, he plays with his chin up, he almost never loses possession and he suffers a lot of fouls, especially when milan are winning (very often, hohoho) and our team is under pressure. those precious fouls which break the rhythm of the game.
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i was listening to some arm-chair critics during the Sunday Italia Uno programme named Controcampo, and an important element which was being discussed was that Juve feel they are being robbed and should have some more points than they actually do. they think the 'system' is favouring milan. in fact, as of yesterday morning, following a press release on their website, juve have decided to go on a silent media strike. no interviews. they are implying a plot against them. Godfather style.

on one side, this indirectly implies they are afraid of milan. i think they should be. 4 out of their 5 losses this season have come against very good teams (sampdoria, palermo, inter, liverpool), while milan's losses have all been against lowly teams, thus implying lack of concentration when facing inferior opponents (read siena, messina, bologna, livorno, excl. barca). as a result, they have a ready excuse when they lose against us on sunday. they will accuse us of stealing the league.

on the other hand, it might be a tactic to raise the concentration level of the team, which has been depicted in this press release as in 'dire emergency'. i think this claim is a bit exaggerated.

i wish milan annihilate juve by playing nice football for this reason. i hate whinnies and all those who like to play the role of the victims. and they have a very short memory. don't they remember when it was others who were victims, while they were the culprits (cannavaro goal in juve-inter 3 years ago, iuliano foul in juve-inter circa 8 years ago)?

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