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Old 15-05-2005, 10:37   #76

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Old 15-05-2005, 10:47   #77

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Carlo. He can win all the cups in the world by now, but i will not believe in anybody saying that he has such a great intelligence of football.

Tasotti is much better than him, that's for sure. Carlo's capacity is not good enough for our giants.
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Old 15-05-2005, 11:06   #78

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ancelotti made our giants!!
he has made mistkes this year, but he's in the CL final 2times in 3yrs.................
he doesnt know as much about soccer as he is expeted to though
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Old 15-05-2005, 11:24   #79

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You know what? Carlo did not make any giants, they were giants already. We could win CL cup last year and scudetto this year. Do not tell me we won CL Cup in 2003 with Carlo's great intelligence. We were lucky.
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Oh please, name a manager who won every thing he ever tried. Hes still the best man for the job and if we win the CL everyone will agree!!
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Old 15-05-2005, 12:04   #81

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He can win CL Cup but that will make no sense for me. I mean my thoughts about him will not change. There are hundreds of people around me who thinks Milan did not deserve to be in the final. I do not know your age but i just liked the way Sacchi made team to play, i do not know u will agree with me.
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Old 15-05-2005, 13:03   #82

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He can win CL Cup but that will make no sense for me. I mean my thoughts about him will not change. There are hundreds of people around me who thinks Milan did not deserve to be in the final. I do not know your age but i just liked the way Sacchi made team to play, i do not know u will agree with me.
Nope, though I understand what you say.

1) The topic of 'deserveness' have been talked about many times here. Like we didn't deserve to lose against Juve, we didn't deserve to beat PSV either. But we did. And the reason is that we scored an away goal while PSV did not. I thought this is a pretty obvious fact.

In other words, it's Milan who made it in the end. So did Liverpool. And yes, it's rough on the PSV fans/players, but who ask Park and Lee didn't score in San Siro (i.e.: Who ask Inzaghi or Sheva didn't score against Juve?)

2) Sacchi's football is another generation. You must understand that the style of play has changed a lot. In fact, it has been evolving every year (now it seems that the trend is going to play defense)

We all like the way Sacchi put the team. Who didn't like it when Capello beat Barcelona 4-0 and won the domestic league? The thing is football, like us, like technology, changes all the time. Trap was a good coach, but he is no longer. We need to move on.

3) Finally, don't forget that it's the results that always count. IT's the score on the scoreboard that earns you 3 points. AT the end of the day, no one remember whether you dive or pull the opponent's shirt (YES FUC*er Zambrotta we'll never forget that). It's the ultimate standing that earns you the title and fame.

And don't tell me that Capello deserves a lot of respect these years. He couldn't do anything with Roma, while Juve is out for Champion League. He is not close to Lippi who almost made the double (when there were only 18 serie A teams). He IS a good coach, but in terms of acheving results, go ahead and compare who is better at getting trophy.

Final words: Why don't some people just drop their stereotype about Ancelotti and starts to appreciate the way he plays? I certainly think that Juventus will win the league, because they manage it (deserve or not it's not relevant). So congrat to those idiots on yet another successful campagin on shirt-pulling. At least they managed.

And one more thing. You mean you expect Sacchi to come back and build anotehr team like last time? Dream on. It's not going to happen because you don't know whether he can still do it and he'll never have the players again.

One difference between Ancelotti and Sacchi (and I thought this point is pretty obvious), is that Ancelotti got different players from Sacchi. I thought this could already explain a lot of difference.

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Old 15-05-2005, 13:04   #83

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Milan didn't deserve CL 2003 and were lucky?

I'm sorry but thats just BS
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Old 15-05-2005, 13:07   #84

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You know what? Carlo did not make any giants, they were giants already. We could win CL cup last year and scudetto this year. Do not tell me we won CL Cup in 2003 with Carlo's great intelligence. We were lucky.
Well, we must be lucky for three years while no other team has a better luck than Milan then.


WAKE UP! If Pirlo is not a giant in our team, who is? Did Sacchi make a giant in our team? Ancelotti created one. He put a small little kid in front of the defense and suddenly Milan was back on track.

And buddy, there were so many giants in Real Madrid. WHy the hell are they not winning any title again this year? You tell me. There were so many giants in Chelsea, and with a 'giant' coach, why the hell are they out of CL? Juventus had all the dirty giants, and a giant GK and a giant coach. Tell me why they are out of CL.

And if we could win everything in every year because eveyr team has some giants, then why giants from Milan achieve more than giants from other teams?

WAKE UP!
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Old 15-05-2005, 13:10   #85

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Milan didn't deserve CL 2003 and were lucky?

I'm sorry but thats just BS
true...

milan was the best team in that competition
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Old 15-05-2005, 15:14   #86

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I did not like your aggressive expressions. I am not one of guys who come here to underestimate Milan side by hiding their favourite team. You must be a sucker for Ancelotti but i am not. That is it. Football has changed so much since Sacchi, that is right. But i did not mean a concrete formation but i meant the mentality. For instance, Chelsea achieves both defence and offence very well. If Barcelona did not have one of the worst defences in Europa, they would do much better surely.

=> problem no.1: To me, Ancelotti has big problems about motivating the team. We score and lead the match until second half. But we can't see any rational substituons by Carlo.

=> problem no.2: Contrary to the last year, team cannot manage different formations.

=> problem no.3: Carlo wanna be like Fabio? I dont know if he wants it that way but Milan really sucks with 9 men defence. We did it last year against Deportivo, this year against Barca and PSV. What are the results? I am sure any other formation would be much much much better than these results. But the person whose football mentality is something that i will never believe in, cannot see that.

We are Milan, we have a tradition to win big matches. In spite of Ancelotti, we keep on doing well. Thats smashing.


Well, to mention 2003 again. There was not any good team. It is interesting but there wasnt any. We were so bad, too. The match against Ajax was a great gift by Gods of Football and in the final, we were much better than Juventus. But that is not caused by Mr. Ancelotti's talents, that has been a truth. We always beat bianconeri side, if they do not profit referee's assistance.
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Old 15-05-2005, 17:15   #87

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Milan didn't deserve CL 2003 and were lucky?

I'm sorry but thats just BS
wrong, this is not just BS, it is BS squared. Where did this guy come from? I really wonder for how long he has been following Milan? Well, obviously it didn't start before the 2003 CL winning campaign. Not a single fan of soccer, in his right mind that is, can argue that Milan were lucky that year and didn't deserve to win the CL 2 years ago.
Could you please save us your opinion for it is truely only yours and I doubt there is someone out there sharing it, which makes it just another bare-naked bunch of pointless words. And please don't state the all so popular sorry-ass, last-hope exit of people who don't know what they are talking about - "I have the right of an opinion too"
FCS, take some time off, read the first couple of books in your life, watch some football in the meantime, and then come here to enlighten our dull lives with your insightful opinions.
It is becoming very suspicious that so many people, who have registered over the past couple of weeks, come here and start giving all this BS. Too many losers and gobies around here, I guess.
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I really wonder for how long he has been following Milan? Well, obviously it didn't start before the 2003 CL winning campaign. Not a single fan of soccer, in his right mind that is, can argue that Milan were lucky that year and didn't deserve to win the CL 2 years ago.
Zlatanov, who do you think you are? You should become more polite. If not, i will be right over here for a counter attack.

I think it is so obvious for how long i have been following Milan. I registered last month but here is not the only place to follow AC Milan. You have to know that.

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Old 15-05-2005, 18:22   #89

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i have tp applaud jeff's last two posts... they simply took the words out of my mouth

but i wanna add another thing:

1) u cannot say we won a competition by luck... u can win game by luck but not a whole competition, oh and we won the coppa italia that same year maybe that was by luck aswell huh?

2) tell me, just how lucky can we be? ... we won like 7 matches this season in the dying minutes... maybe its not luck, everheard of the word determination, offcourse others play well but in football u dont play with ur feet, u mainly play with ur brain and thats why weve acheived these last years what others failed to do.

3) yes its true we played defensivly vs barca, vs psv, vs depor last year (actually we didnt play at all that match) ... but it all depends on the situation of the match, if we were down and we had to win u think carlo would play defensive, carlo is a smart man, i dont understand why some of u think hes not good with tactics, he may not introduce the players u want to introduce at some games but no one is perfect, look why attack vs barca when we had a 3 point lead in the group and almost guarenteed the qualification?? why attack psv when u can risk conceding easier goals and ur up by 2 on aggregate? also since playing defensivly is less tiring looking at our schedual!!! ... oh and u mention all of these negatives but u forget to mention how we controlled the match when we needed to, ambro scored after 20 mins of milan control and u gotta give carlo credit for that, and thats not called luck!
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wrong, this is not just BS, it is BS squared. Where did this guy come from? I really wonder for how long he has been following Milan? Well, obviously it didn't start before the 2003 CL winning campaign. Not a single fan of soccer, in his right mind that is, can argue that Milan were lucky that year and didn't deserve to win the CL 2 years ago.
Could you please save us your opinion for it is truely only yours and I doubt there is someone out there sharing it, which makes it just another bare-naked bunch of pointless words. And please don't state the all so popular sorry-ass, last-hope exit of people who don't know what they are talking about - "I have the right of an opinion too"
FCS, take some time off, read the first couple of books in your life, watch some football in the meantime, and then come here to enlighten our dull lives with your insightful opinions.
It is becoming very suspicious that so many people, who have registered over the past couple of weeks, come here and start giving all this BS. Too many losers and gobies around here, I guess.

that was uncalled for and impolite... please appologize... were all against his opinion but we act maturelly
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