EURO u-21 in Netherlands

I dont think that can happen, Italy would qualify above England as they would have 4 points to Englands 3 if England and Serbia draw.

I didn't say the match will end with a draw
Only the scenario has been the same
But this things are "normal" to happen
We've seen it so many times
Probably it's about motivation or friendship or common interest
i don't know


That's what i said:

"Serbia with England will manage to end the match -- with a result -- that will qualify them both"

ok, that i agree with

Not sure friendship came into it though!

I saw two of Netherlands game and this guy Drenthe is amazing .. he can be the next Rino , another player who had good performances is Pereira for Portugal let's not talk about Italia cuz you know their squad has a lot of talents

The Netherlands won 13-12!!!! on penalties after the match ended 1-1 in regulation time.

Belgium so deserved to go to the final. We had 4 great chances but wasted everyone of them. Serbia was not really dangerous, but they scored a lucky goal after only 4 mins. Ah well, it was a good tournament for the young Belgians, they go to the Olympics next year, and hopefully this new generation leads to a rise from the Belgian national team again.
Because it's unbelieveable what happens to Belgian football right now. In 2001, Belgium was still 16th on the FIFA ranking, now they are 71st, after countries like Uzbekistan, Jamaica, Albania and Panama!

Have to agree with that, Belgium got mugged by Serbia and the team nobody really wanted in the final has made it

Im not too surprised England went out on penalties again it was a very typical performance, start well, take the lead, hold out all game then concede because your best defender is crocked we basically played extra time with 9.5 players but if there is any side in International football who shouldnt play for penalties, its England

If we had made the final we would have been sending out a reserve side anyway thanks to all the suspensions and injuries so its probably better to have a brave defeat in the semi's to getting thrashed in the final

Originally Posted by Stezagud

if there is any side in International football who shouldnt play for penalties, its England

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normally the Dutch aren't that good on penalty shooting either

normally the Dutch aren't that good on penalty shooting either

true, thats why the shootout took so long, if it was possible for both teams to lose a penalty shootout this wouldve been the game it happened

I think the Dutch record is marginally better than Englands though, in fact in my whole life i have only ever seen England beaten fairly in the knock out stages once, by Brazil in 2002 (and that was a 40 yard fluke too ) in 86 it was the hand of god, in 90, 96, 98, 04 and 06 it was the dreaded shootouts

Congratulations to the New/ old champions, the Netherlands. What a dominance it was tonight.
But i knew they'll win it because i cheered for Serbia

To win euro-21 twice in a row ( by winning the final 3:0 and 4:1) must mean something : There are some damn good players in this Dutch 2004-2007 generation that our teams must follow because they present the future stars of the world and european football !.

Originally Posted by Stezagud

true, thats why the shootout took so long, if it was possible for both teams to lose a penalty shootout this wouldve been the game it happened

I think the Dutch record is marginally better than Englands though, in fact in my whole life i have only ever seen England beaten fairly in the knock out stages once, by Brazil in 2002 (and that was a 40 yard fluke too ) in 86 it was the hand of god, in 90, 96, 98, 04 and 06 it was the dreaded shootouts

What happend in World Cup 94 mate they could not even make it

What happend in World Cup 94 mate they could not even make it

we were screwed then too, the qualifier vs Holland in particular. David Platt went through on goal only to be blatantly fouled by the last man Koeman, the ref unbelievably gave him only a yellow instead of the obligatory red card and minutes after it to add further insult Koeman scored a freekick to put England out!

We got revenge on them in 96 though, and we didnt even need to cheat to do it

They cheated all-right
How do they did that against mighty england i'll never understand

I also don't understand why england always loose on penaltys
They are so unlucky

Is this the best they can do?
Y

The only time England lost unfair was when Maradona singleHANDEDLY beat them. Penalties have luck factor included, but also a winning mentality and concentration.

Originally Posted by Stezagud

We got revenge on them in 96 though, and we didnt even need to cheat to do it

I still remember that lol it was a great match, Shearer & Teddy ripped them apart.

I personally think the outcome would of been different in this competition if we had Theo, Bentley & Agbonlahor. Then again the under 21 team could teach the first team a lesson or two about penalties.