Summer mercato 2009

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

I have to give Morratti or JM credits.
They wanted Carvalho and Deco, both of the players want to play for JM, Chelsea told them to pay up. Then Morratti went out and got Lucio and Helb, whom I think are much better players than Carvalho and Deco.
I would be surprise if Inter goes out and get another attk mid with the 45mil from Barcelona.

Inter will beat us to Elano. Also, Hleb has reportedly rejected inter for his original club VFB Stuttgart!
Moratti is far more mentally stable than Berlu, and doesn't use the club as much as a promotion for himself, rather, his company. As for JM, he has far more cash to spend than poor old Leo who has great ideas but old slower players or young unexposed ones.

Originally Posted by GeoTav

If signing U23 players is the new direction, it won't be for 1 or 2 years but for more, so then, our oldies will have left ...

yes but the other players we have who are youngsters now will get older 2...
and there is a big difference in signing 18year olds like arsenal or signing 23year olds.

I don't think Elano is someone that Milan should be fighting for, as there are plenty of players with better quality at his position.

Like Gourcuff-wait Milan sold him already.

Anyway, I do think there are plenty of players who are better than Elano and still in the market.

Hernanes, Sneijder, VDV, Aqualini, even Tiago at Juve are better options than Elano.

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

I don't think Elano is someone that Milan should be fighting for, as there are plenty of players with better quality at his position.

Like Gourcuff-wait Milan sold him already.

Anyway, I do think there are plenty of players who are better than Elano and still in the market.

Hernanes, Sneijder, VDV, Aqualini, even Tiago at Juve are better options than Elano.

Mate, all those players you listed are beyond our reach besides Sneijder. Elano is basically surplus to Man City and will come cheap....

Thats the problem, I don't think those players are beyong reach of MIlan, the fact is that Berlu does not want to spend.

Originally Posted by Saliwonczyk

Mate, all those players you listed are beyond our reach besides Sneijder. Elano is basically surplus to Man City and will come cheap....

Now we are starting to gather reject players from top clubs.....it makes me so sad.
Mrki said it alright...it's like we're becoming a mediocre club.
Even Fiorentina, Palermo and such look like one class above us

cheers

No Friction At Milan Between Silvio Berlusconi & Leonardo – Club Lawyer
The Rossoneri attorney insists there are no disagreements in the camp and claims no Chelsea offers have come in for Pirlo...
29 Jul 2009 10:30:03

Milan supremo Silvio Berlusconi caused a buzz yesterday after he revealed to two Italian MPs that he is planning to rejuvenate the team and will not be considering players over 30 years of age in the coming years.

His comments appeared to irk team boss Leonardo who admitted that they still need to bring in experienced players to challenge for top honours, but Milan lawyer Leandro Cantamessa has dismissed speculation that the Brazilian is already at odds with the Italian prime minister.

“I can rule out there is any friction between Berlusconi and Leonardo,” Cantamessa told reporters outside the Lega Calcio headquarters.

I don’t see any incompatibility between Berlusconi’s arguments, which have a broader purpose, and Leonardo’s, which pertain to the sporting sphere. Their arguments have nothing to see with each other.

“Do we need Under-23 players? That’s a good idea and a project I absolutely agree with.”

There are reports in the press that Milan have rejected a bid from Chelsea for playmaker Andrea Pirlo.

“I am not aware of this offer for Pirlo,” admitted Cantamessa.

“Luis Fabiano? The deal is off for now. But I don’t know what Milan’s budget is in the transfer market, I am just a scribe…”

Milan made a €14 million offer for Sevilla striker Fabiano earlier this month, but it was rejected by the Spanish club who are holding out for at least €20m.

Vince Masiello, Goal.com

Personally I feel this new project for 23 and unde rplayers is not so bad. it is not liek we will become Arsenal, as we already have too many old players.....

23 year olds are more than capable to make an impact to our squad! Maybe not up foward as much, but as a LB, for sure!

Originally Posted by Fret

Now we are starting to gather reject players from top clubs.....it makes me so sad.
Mrki said it alright...it's like we're becoming a mediocre club.
Even Fiorentina, Palermo and such look like one class above us

cheers

Everyone must have their go mate! The thing is, this may be a cloud with a silver lining. FInally MGT is changing their crazy and over sentimental mentality. it may be too late, but it is a start. And now we have a coach who is not afraid to play youngsters! If Berlu can pull the money to buy a CF and then a decent LB, we should be fine with adding youth and project players.....

Oh shi%, Carceres just moved to juve, and Fiorentina are on the verge of signing Eboue. the first signing if of course more significant.....

For me, buying Carceres for 12 million, which was less than the original Cissko deal is beautiful. he can play in many positions well down back!

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

But those who are 22-25 now will become more mature and exp in a few yrs. UNless they are all Kaka and leave to Real at 28.

But what makes a player experienced ??
Is it the fact that they play regularly in the team or is it the fact that they win titles ??

As far as I know, if we don't win anything this season and the following one, our 23-24yo players from today (not so much) will be 25-26yo in two years but with no title so, for me, no experience ...

So signing U23 players is right, but signing sometimes a more experienced player is more than needed ...

Originally Posted by GeoTav

But what makes a player experienced ??
Is it the fact that they play regularly in the team or is it the fact that they win titles ??

As far as I know, if we don't win anything this season and the following one, our 23-24yo players from today (not so much) will be 25-26yo in two years but with no title so, for me, no experience ...

So signing U23 players is right, but signing sometimes a more experienced player is more than needed ...

Like someone said earlier, 23 year olds are more than capable in seriosuly contributing to the squad. You don't have to be a Kaka or a C.Ronaldo, but how did Wolfsburg initially pick up Dzeko? By taking a bit of a gamble!

You didn't get my point ... I know a U23/25 player can make an impact in the team, it's even this kind of players that we lack nowadays, but the problem is if we only buy U23 players (U23 means 18, 19, 20, 21 and 22yo players too, not only 23yo players).

Most of these young players never won any title, and if we tend to only buy them, don't expect us to win again a title like the CL ...

dont agree there. why wouldnt we win? these players will gain experience over the years, playing for their NT, playing CL, playing big games!

I think it's okay to search for 23yo players, but I don't think that this is a must from now on, but rather something for this club to keep an eye on.

It's not like we're only gonna play kids from now on...






....or is it that Berlu's grown tired of young girls and from now on he wants to watch young boys.....