All posts re: the Italian Football Scandal (Moggipoli)

Originally Posted by Jedi

is this true?
"Milan's position is worse than first thought and their penalty might range from a heavy point deduction to a demotion to Serie B football.

According to Borelli, apart from the 'Juve system', there also was the 'Milan system' which Adriano Galliani has denied in recent weeks. In the report it emerges that even though the system created by Moggi and Giraudo was the most powerful, the one involving the Rossoneri was only a step behind the Bianconeri's, and for this reason Milan are risking a lot."

I have no idea if Borelli really said this, but if he did, then it will be a problem since he's the Italian football federation's chief investigator , and he surely knows many things !!!

Hmmm, dont like the sound of that, but what a crappy system we had, if our results are to come second more often than not? To guarantee a UCL spot?

Well...plauseable..but probable? I refuse to believe it.

Thanks for the updates guys!!

Where was that info from anyway? Link please!!!!

Originally Posted by Jedi

is this true?
"Milan's position is worse than first thought and their penalty might range from a heavy point deduction to a demotion to Serie B football.

According to Borelli, apart from the 'Juve system', there also was the 'Milan system' which Adriano Galliani has denied in recent weeks. In the report it emerges that even though the system created by Moggi and Giraudo was the most powerful, the one involving the Rossoneri was only a step behind the Bianconeri's, and for this reason Milan are risking a lot."

Please tell us where this is from. Thanks

from channel4.com

Tuesday 20 June
Gazzetta dello Sport
Moggiopoli: Here’s who will pay
Inzaghi is in Lippi’s plan
“Juventus have already noted me”
Deschamps: “I’m ready. We’ll start from Del Piero”

Corriere dello Sport/Stadio
Juventus tremble, Milan in trouble
Lippi looks to Totti
Decisive game against the Czechs on Thursday: It will be up to the Roman to lead Italy again

Tuttosport
Lippi, change it to this
Here’s the side that we recommend to beat the Czechs
It will be a Juve which belongs to the fans

Ok, so what exactly does it say about Galliani and Milan??????

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

Please tell us where this is from. Thanks

I think it was on goal.com

acmilan.com has also put up some stuff about all this of late, which basically says something along the lines of the snippets of conversation are taken out of context to be used against us.

Originally Posted by ACMILAN1983

I think it was on goal.com

acmilan.com has also put up some stuff about all this of late, which basically says something along the lines of the snippets of conversation are taken out of context to be used against us.

it was also on tgcom.it.

ACMILAN1983...have you seen the photo of the Gazetto front page?

It certainly doesn't look good for us, but if I was to make any prediction, it is that we'll still be playing in the Serie A next season. I think Juve will be relegated, but if Milan is sent down as well, it means the end of the Serie A as one of the best leagues in Europe. It will be a disaster for Italian football, and one that it might not recover from in a long, long time (if ever).
My reason for saying this is that without Juve and Milan in the Serie A, the league will lose the ability to attract the best players in the world, we will see the "lesser " Italian sides playing in the Champions League (which will ultimately lead to Italy losing at least one of it's four places in the CL), not to mention that the Italian league will lose massive amounts in TV revenues if its two most popular teams aren't participating anymore.

So, Juve will be relegated, because there is no other choice.
Milan will get a hefty fine and a lot of points deducted before the start of the next season.

That is what I think, at least.

How will the points deduction affect our UCL spot devoted?

I think we'll play in the CL next season, but that we'll start the next season season with -15 points or something like that.

-15 points..some money, hmm worst case scenario...if so, next season...we dont win the scudetto...but still in the UCL? I´ll take it. Thank you very much, have a nice day Prof Borelli.

Best case scenario: No points deduction, no fines....thanks Prof Borelli, have a nice day!

Guess I will just wait and see...thanks, as usual for the updates

I personally think that's the result of Juventus' desparate efforts to drag as many as other teams into the turmoil, and what would be a better target than Milan?

The media love to make sensations, and not to forget that some of them are actually supporting Juventus. All these rumors should make sense after all. I think we are clean, if there is any trail of corruption/system, it is more like Fiorentina's. The victims are forced to protect themselves. Isn't that common in Italy?

I also heard that Juventus could go down to C1 and four other teams (with the new addition of Sampdoria) heavily penalized including a possible demotion to B for Milan. Of course I hope that Juventus got relegated and we took over the two scudetti (not that I really care for those tainted trophies, but heck, it is better than none, right?), but I am afraid that mostly even Juventus could be safe due to their "special status" in Italy.

I also heard of rumors that Kaka' has been convinced by Real Madrid and he is expected to talk to Berlusconi himself about it after WC. I don't believe it, but if we were down, it is not entirely impossible. I will see that Maldini, Costacurta, Gilardino, Pippo, Gattuso, Ambrosini, Pirlo even Cafu, Vogel or Dida staying, but I am not sure about Kaka'. well, that's already good enough for me anyway. I surely hope that it is not going to be a problem for us. But you never know in such a crazy place named Italy..

We will just have to wait and see.

Honestly I'm confused. From the Milan side, Galliani, Milan Channel & Co. are saying that media are trying to get Milan involved in this scandal and mentioning the games that we where robbed in the last 2 seasons..... however I'm still not convinced. Today I heard a phrase that I didn't liked. Suma (the director of Milan channel) said 'its not important on how others look at us, the most important think is that we know we're clean' The problem is that others are going to descide not me!!

.... I don't know what to say more, from one side I can't see us involved and from the other side I'm afraid. Meani is not in our top managment and he phoned after Siena-Milan of last season showing his anger for a regular Shevchenko goal disallowed. I see nothing wrong there, but our name is still there.

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

ACMILAN1983...have you seen the photo of the Gazetto front page?

no, how come?

It is really depending on how one interprets the situation. I am sure we are clean, and maybe there is some system, but that's only common in Italy. You have to protect yourself, and when you have no resorts/authorities to count on, it is only understandable that the victims get together and figure out something. To take that away is brutal and inhumane. Sure we are Milan, but Juventus was/is/will be purely dirty and overwhelming, and what do you expect others to do after getting robbed? Laugh and say, "hey, here is more"?

I know that I am proud of Milan, that is the most important thing to me. Wherever Milan is, I will support Milan no matter what. I haven't followed Milan long enough dating back the dark B years. I did begin supporting Milan when Milan started the golden era at late 80s, but I know that I am not just a glory hunter. I surely don't like such a chance to test my loyalty, but I am not afraid of it.

FORZA MILAN