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Old 18-07-2008, 10:17   #9181

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More news on the rumored Seedorf move:
http://www.channel4.com/sport/footba...ia/jul18g.html

I don't believe it for a minute, yet wouldn't be surprised if it did happen.

The last team I would sell him to would be Juve though...actually, if I were to sell Clarence, it would be to team in Serie B, or outside of Italy.

Saw this, or at least the possibility of rumors swirling about his possible departure from a mile away....

Tuttosport is the paper making the report, while the more "Milan friendly" Gazetta, has Clarence welcoming R10...

Yeah the real papers stated he was welcoming Ronaldinho and even willing to give up his shirt. We know what sources that's coming from. It's not our fault that Juve and Inter have been less than successful regarding their transfer season.

I'd keep him for sure.

In case anyone is wondering, I have not seen anything official on Abate just yet. I'd really like to see him stay with Milan, but I understand that he wants more first team playing time.
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Old 18-07-2008, 10:21   #9182

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I have not seen anything official on Abate just yet. I'd really like to see him stay with Milan, but I understand that he wants more first team playing time.
well he'll get it if Seedorf leaves, it'll make Abate first choice AM sub.
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Old 18-07-2008, 10:23   #9183

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People here are Overexaggerating the capture of Ronaldinho. There was only 2 clubs who were after his services, and one of them being Man city.

Two years ago this capture would been phenominal as every club who could afford Ronni would have tried. Lets also not forget that 2 years ago Ronaldinho would have been the most expensive player if transferable, Whereas know he didnt even cost more then Pato.

Lets also not forget other factors which made this move easier. Examples such as, Ronnie wanting to go to the olympics and defying orders, Man city's deadline, Laporta's canidancy at the club ect.
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Old 18-07-2008, 10:25   #9184

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People here are Overexaggerating the capture of Ronaldinho. There was only 2 clubs who were after his services, and one of them being Man city.

Two years ago this capture would been phenominal as every club who could afford Ronni would have tried. Lets also not forget that 2 years ago Ronaldinho would have been the most expensive player if transferable, Whereas know he didnt even cost more then Pato.

Lets also not forget other factors which made this move easier. Examples such as, Ronnie wanting to go to the olympics and defying orders, Man city's deadline, Laporta's canidancy at the club ect.
No one is exaggerating anything. There were several offers made over ours, and while he didn't cost more than Pato, other teams were prepared to bid twice as much as he was. It was a major market coup, considering Laporta wanted to sell to Man City because there was more money to be offered. In other words, Barca pretty much got screwed on this transfer, and there own transfer market has been less than impressive.
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Old 18-07-2008, 10:35   #9185

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People here are Overexaggerating the capture of Ronaldinho. There was only 2 clubs who were after his services, and one of them being Man city.

Two years ago this capture would been phenominal as every club who could afford Ronni would have tried. Lets also not forget that 2 years ago Ronaldinho would have been the most expensive player if transferable, Whereas know he didnt even cost more then Pato.

Lets also not forget other factors which made this move easier. Examples such as, Ronnie wanting to go to the olympics and defying orders, Man city's deadline, Laporta's canidancy at the club ect.
Other clubs knew very well how much grip we had on Ronaldinho since we were always after him and talking to his brother for two years. If we hadn't had that grip, then we could have lost him to Inter (moratti) or Chelsea (scolari). He is a player who is wanted by every club.

He was also crucified in France when he played for PSG and look what he did for Barca. Barca's modern history is COMPLETELY based on him.
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Old 18-07-2008, 10:41   #9186

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Other clubs knew very well how much grip we had on Ronaldinho since we were always after him and talking to his brother for two years. If we hadn't had that grip, then we could have lost him to Inter (moratti) or Chelsea (scolari). He is a player who is wanted by every club
Moratti and Inter were only linked with him when Roberto mancini was still coaching Inter. As soon as Mourinho arrived the rumors went away. So lets not use that example. Scolari was just apponited and if anything as soon as he was appointed the rumors died down. Ronaldinho was a player who was wanted by every club, he no longer is.
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Moratti and Inter were only linked with him when Roberto mancini was still coaching Inter. As soon as Mourinho arrived the rumors went away. So lets not use that example. Scolari was just apponited and if anything as soon as he was appointed the rumors died down. Ronaldinho was a player who was wanted by every club, he no longer is.
This is totally not true. Even at this point he was wanted by several clubs. Mourinho if anything wanted him more than Mancini, and Scolari was given the funds to make several huge purchases... keep in mind Chelsea have already bought Deco and they would see it appropriate to buy another Barca player. He was wanted by several major clubs, even recently.
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This is totally not true. Even at this point he was wanted by several clubs. Mourinho if anything wanted him more than Mancini, and Scolari was given the funds to make several huge purchases... keep in mind Chelsea have already bought Deco and they would see it appropriate to buy another Barca player. He was wanted by several major clubs, even recently.
Abramovic is the one who admired Ronaldinho never Mourinho, Mourinho was reported to have gotten into many dissagreements because of this the Ronnie issue. Scolari was never linked with Ronaldinho, it was and has always been Abramovic who wanted the player.

The only Managers who wanted him were R.mancini and Mark hughes.

Even Ancelotti had his doubts and said he prefers a farward to Ronnie

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Abramovic is the one who admired Ronaldinho never Mourinho, Mourinho was reported to have gotten into many dissagreements because of this the Ronnie issue. Scolari was never linked with Ronaldinho, it was and has always been Abramovic who wanted the player.

The only Managers who wanted him were R.mancini and Mark hughes.

Even Ancelotti had his doubts and said he prefers a farward to Ronnie
Scolari was mentioned several times actually... but this is a market coup not to be underestimated and it was quite impressive as Barca were willing to sell to anyone but us. We knew if they were forced to sell to Milan they would get the short end of the deal.

And I'm still giving my thumbs up to Galliani for doing the right thing!
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Old 18-07-2008, 10:51   #9190

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Well we've good mercato, compare with last two season ago. But based on what Galliani said 'bout our mercato.Is it really over?

I just might wondering we still have 2 non EU spots left, maybe we can use it to sign GK or defenders. I'm still hoping Zapata and Boruc would come but still then if it is happen 7 signing ?????? it could disrupt team harmony although is very tempting as a fan to see
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C'mon Kerlz.....

we're celebrating here....just don't ruin it
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People here are Overexaggerating the capture of Ronaldinho. There was only 2 clubs who were after his services, and one of them being Man city.

Two years ago this capture would been phenominal as every club who could afford Ronni would have tried. Lets also not forget that 2 years ago Ronaldinho would have been the most expensive player if transferable, Whereas know he didnt even cost more then Pato.

Lets also not forget other factors which made this move easier. Examples such as, Ronnie wanting to go to the olympics and defying orders, Man city's deadline, Laporta's canidancy at the club ect.
I have my doubts over ronaldinho too but seeing how he can carry a huge tummy and still make those nice moves......I think he can still contribute.

BTW, the reason why not many clubs go for ronnie is because of his pricetag. Barca ask for a whole lot of money for somebody not on form so it turn a lot of clubs off. So eventually its left to Milan and Man city. And also you are undermining the paycheck of ronaldinho, not many clubs in the world can afford to pay his wages. If his wages demand is low, you can be sure a whole lot of "man city" will jump in to fight for his signature.
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Old 18-07-2008, 12:24   #9194

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I have my doubts over ronaldinho too but seeing how he can carry a huge tummy and still make those nice moves......I think he can still contribute.

BTW, the reason why not many clubs go for ronnie is because of his pricetag. Barca ask for a whole lot of money for somebody not on form so it turn a lot of clubs off. So eventually its left to Milan and Man city. And also you are undermining the paycheck of ronaldinho, not many clubs in the world can afford to pay his wages. If his wages demand is low, you can be sure a whole lot of "man city" will jump in to fight for his signature.
I agree, as someone mentioned before it's a risk. Well, it was ar isk to take R99, Seedorf, Pirlo etc. etc. etc., some works out, some don't. Kaka` could well be a risk back then (and then NOW we know he is not, but that's hindsight).

A Ronaldinho, 28years old who haven't suffered major injury setbacks and who have the motivatino to take a lower wage to play for the team?

I"LL TAKE THAT .
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Um, I wasn't heated or anything. I just didn't think it's fair to single out Ronaldinho like that. And I've seen recent interviews with him apparently he has already trimmed his weight.

He's never had any major injuries throughout his career, like Ronaldo... I think he's a vital fantastic acquisition.
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