Winter Mercato

Thery won't end when the window closes, as it opens again in January, when they'll surely sign for us.

Yes, finnally it will be over. Just take Cannavaro and then close the whole thing

well clearly chelsea will sign Ronaldinho and then Barcelona will use the money to snatch Alves .... and then we can sign Zambrotta ... meanwhile Seville will swap Kanoute for Adriano and Chelsea will release Shevchenko to CSKA Moscow taking Akinfeev in the process ... elsewhere Baptista will go to Liverpool or more probably Bolton where they do better pies and finally Cannavaro will pack his bags for good and become a waiter at an Italian restaurant.

In January, due to the terrible form of Adriano, Ronaldinho, Shevchenko and Baptista and due to Akinfeev's meteoric rise ousting Cech from the number 1 spot, Berlusconi will sit down at a big dinner with all these players and buy them all. Additionally Cannavaro will be waiting on the table and Berlusconi will convince him to go back to football.

The End.

If we get Cannavarro and he gets back to top form, get ready for a plethera of clean sheets
Oddo---Nesta---Cannavarro---Maldini

Nasty defense...

Originally Posted by mrki

Yes, finnally it will be over. Just take Cannavaro and then close the whole thing

And Zambrotta

Real to sell Cannavaro looks a lot less complicated now than 10 days ago.

10 days ago Calderon's statement that he won't buy any more defenders was still valid. 10 days ago Real had only 3 central defenders, with one of them, Metzelder, being injury prone. 10 days ago Cannavaro was expected to get back to his old form and lead the defence.

But now.... Real bought Drenthe, who even though is listed as a midfielder can very well play as a full back. Now Real bought Heinze, who even though is expected to take the LB position can easily play CD if it's needed. Now Real is close to Danny Alves who can take the RB position which will make Sergio Ramos available to take the CD position and finally, now Cannavaro is in the worst form of his life as he has shown against Sevilla and Hungary.

Real did reject the offers from Juve and Chelsea but it was before they got Drenthe and Heinze.
The only unrealistic thing in Goal.com's article is the price. 7m was what Real payed for Cannavaro (i think they payed even less than 7m).
Now Canna is 34, an year older than last July and he had the worst season in his life, unlike last summer when he was coming after his best career season.

Originally Posted by ag2765

If we get Cannavarro and he gets back to top form, get ready for a plethera of clean sheets
Oddo---Nesta---Cannavarro---Maldini

Nasty defense...

Why's Maldini playing left-back?

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

Why's Maldini playing left-back?

Why not

On paper, this defense looks scarry.
In reality, Oddo-Nesta-Canna-Maldini is worse than Oddo-Nesta-Kaladze-Jankulovski

Hah...34 years old...the best in Milan is yet to come

About Gila-Adriano swap:

I love Gila and I've been supporting him for the past season in Milan, which have frankly been poor by any Milan standards. But Gila is Italian and is young. In people's minds he is still a big Italian striking hope, a milan future.
But the truth is this - Gila cant do ****!! If he was a croat, a bulgarian, a russian or finish player, he would fly from milanello in a blitz!!!! What can he do?? Can he run? Can he pass? Can he head? He looses every air duel possible, he cant score from 250% chances! He cant play anymore!!! It is as simple as that. Playing for Milan in front of Pirlo, Seedorf, Kaka' you have to score 10-15 goals per season even if you are blind.

Loan Gila out or sell him, im up for loaning option. Let the man play for a saeason somewhere like Fiorentina, Parma, Lazio or whatever...Reggina.

Adriano is in horrible shape, but he plays no worse than Gila. Difference is that Adriano can still pass, shoot and head well. I would change them any moment, but im sure Moratti will not do that, he is too afraid of Milan.

Originally Posted by Tony29.

Why not

On paper, this defense looks scarry.
In reality, Oddo-Nesta-Canna-Maldini is worse than Oddo-Nesta-Kaladze-Jankulovski

Oddo-Nesta-Kala-Marek is actually very good. Especially this season I expect form Oddo something extra more than last year. He already showed he is in better shape then last season in Milan.

this is my plan: Oddo-Nesta-Canna-Kaladze

Osorio - Nesta - Zapata - Zambrotta

Might be better

Originally Posted by Tony29.

And Zambrotta

Real to sell Cannavaro looks a lot less complicated now than 10 days ago.

10 days ago Calderon's statement that he won't buy any more defenders was still valid. 10 days ago Real had only 3 central defenders, with one of them, Metzelder, being injury prone. 10 days ago Cannavaro was expected to get back to his old form and lead the defence.

But now.... Real bought Drenthe, who even though is listed as a midfielder can very well play as a full back. Now Real bought Heinze, who even though is expected to take the LB position can easily play CD if it's needed. Now Real is close to Danny Alves who can take the RB position which will make Sergio Ramos available to take the CD position and finally, now Cannavaro is in the worst form of his life as he has shown against Sevilla and Hungary.

Real did reject the offers from Juve and Chelsea but it was before they got Drenthe and Heinze.
The only unrealistic thing in Goal.com's article is the price. 7m was what Real payed for Cannavaro (i think they payed even less than 7m).
Now Canna is 34, an year older than last July and he had the worst season in his life, unlike last summer when he was coming after his best career season.

good points, Tony ... finally

regarding canna's price last year, according to media reports right after, and not before, the transfer took place, Real paid Juve 23 mil for Canna+Emerson - 8 for Canna and 15 for Emerson - although some Juve fans prefer to believe that their team got less money from that deal ... go figure

But I agree, that given Canna's age and current form - he's has been nothing short of dreadful at the back lately and quite insecure all of last season with Real - his price must have dropped down to around 4-5 mil.

And, as you mentioned, the arival of Heinze, Drenthe, and possibly Alves - looks set to leave Sevilla with real the only realistic destination for this summer window - Real would get good cover for CD even without Canna, well good enough for a team like Real, at least

Originally Posted by Tony29.

Why not

On paper, this defense looks scarry.
In reality, Oddo-Nesta-Canna-Maldini is worse than Oddo-Nesta-Kaladze-Jankulovski

can't agree here ... it really depends on the tactical goals/set up for the specific game as maldini even now would provide much more solidity that Janku, and still has enough pace for a defensive LB, who will not go forward too often.
Of course he probably won't b able to play LB every 3 days but that's why we have kaladze, Janku, Sergio, Favalli.

If I want canna at Milan, it's because I hope he and nesta will take Maldini's place of being "the teacher" once Paolo retires. And I am sure Canna can get back to his form of a year ago - doubt the reason for his current form is in him, mostly thanks to Real's record of destrying players - so, vs. certain teams a defence of 3 solid players at the back with one attacking fullback, would be best IMO, something like when we had Stam here only now it would be:
Oddo/Cafu - Nesta - Canna/Maldini - Kaladze

All in all, with all the unknowns surrounding Maldini, and Kaladze's injury problems over the years, I'd rather have a Canna than a Simic in a season with so many games like this one.

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

well clearly chelsea will sign Ronaldinho and then Barcelona will use the money to snatch Alves .... and then we can sign Zambrotta ... meanwhile Seville will swap Kanoute for Adriano and Chelsea will release Shevchenko to CSKA Moscow taking Akinfeev in the process ... elsewhere Baptista will go to Liverpool or more probably Bolton where they do better pies and finally Cannavaro will pack his bags for good and become a waiter at an Italian restaurant.

In January, due to the terrible form of Adriano, Ronaldinho, Shevchenko and Baptista and due to Akinfeev's meteoric rise ousting Cech from the number 1 spot, Berlusconi will sit down at a big dinner with all these players and buy them all. Additionally Cannavaro will be waiting on the table and Berlusconi will convince him to go back to football.

The End.

Lmao! Good post.

Originally Posted by zlatanov

good points, Tony ... finally

regarding canna's price last year, according to media reports right after, and not before, the transfer took place, Real paid Juve 23 mil for Canna+Emerson - 8 for Canna and 15 for Emerson - although some Juve fans prefer to believe that their team got less money from that deal ... go figure

But I agree, that given Canna's age and current form - he's has been nothing short of dreadful at the back lately and quite insecure all of last season with Real - his price must have dropped down to around 4-5 mil.

And, as you mentioned, the arival of Heinze, Drenthe, and possibly Alves - looks set to leave Sevilla with real the only realistic destination for this summer window - Real would get good cover for CD even without Canna, well good enough for a team like Real, at least

Do you have any links about this Canna rumor Zlat ?
I'm surprised Calciomercato has nothing about this and they usually have every single information.
And i kinda don't trust Goal.com because they usually write the articles according to their own theories.


P.S : And Mrki's Oddo-Nesta-Canna-Kaladze is good and can work, but the line-up with Maldini as LB is awful.
I know you all love the man but he can't play LB. Even as CD when there's no pace needed as in LB he was destroyed by Suazo and Ibra or any other fast attacker.
Fast right wings will have peace of cake job against Maldini the LB.
Maldini is using his huge quality and accumulated experience to do solid as a CD. But it won't help him on the left side because there he will need super pace and physical condition.

Milan To Make Last-Minute Cannavaro Swoop? There are growing rumours in both Italy and Spain, that Azzurri skipper Fabio Cannavaro could be sold to AC Milan before the end of the transfer window closes this Friday.

Originally Posted by Tony29.

Do you have any links about this Canna rumor Zlat ?
I'm surprised Calciomercato has nothing about this and they usually have every single information.
And i kinda don't trust Goal.com because they usually write the articles according to their own theories.

no, no links ... and I also don't buy goal.com's scribbling, in fact, I never pay attention to their rumours unless they have appeared somewhere else too.

In this case, I am just going with the discussion and I have been plugging canna for a while here, so ... you get the picture.


[quote]
P.S : And Mrki's Oddo-Nesta-Canna-Kaladze is good and can work, but the line-up with Maldini as LB is awful.
I know you all love the man but he can't play LB. Even as CD when there's no pace needed as in LB he was destroyed by Suazo and Ibra or any other fast attacker.[quote]
yes they did, Tony, but you are forgetting that Maldini was playing with an injury last year and had problems finishing even 1 game for every week or even 10 days.
In that game vs Inter (2-1 for Inter) when maldini and Milan was having a hard time, Milan had just played a 120-min game vs Celtic in CL and Maldini had played for the full 120 min of that game, if memory serves me right.

Basically, vs Inter he shoudln't have played at all but Carlo trusts him more than any other defender

Fast right wings will have peace of cake job against Maldini the LB.
Maldini is using his huge quality and accumulated experience to do solid as a CD. But it won't help him on the left side because there he will need super pace and physical condition.

not necessarily true - in 2005 Maldini was not much younger or faster than he is now and he made C. Ronaldo look like a fool vs ManU in the CL where at the SS he played at LB (with cafu, Nesta, Stam making up the rest of the defense).

I am giving this example as there are hardly many wingers, if any at all, who are faster and more agile than CR7 (now he seems like a better player but his quickness back than was equally impressive). I am sure however that if we try, we'd come up with many other examples when maldini did very well at LB vs fast players (wingers in general are fast anyway) by using his superior positioning and reading of the game i.e. his experience.

the thing is that Maldini may not be as quick anymore but that's been the case for some time now. What made things worse for him in some games last year when he looked pretty bad for his standards was not so much his age but his injury problems which were on top of everything else.