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blacktop whats wrong with you, if you dont like what you read, dont comment. almost everyone in this forum speak 3 languages so please spare us from your english lessons.

Originally Posted by Xudong

I wish there was an Italian Brasileiro who could tell us how good these players are.

i read an article about our loaned-out co-owned player some where i will update you with it

Originally Posted by johncharles365

unfortunately it doesn't work like that we have a non eu spot for this season only and Milan will only get another eu spot if we sell a non eu player which in my mind would be Dida.

In any case no wants to pay 10 million euros for Rafinha the agent is just trying to get the best deal possible. to be honest i would prefer that Milan brought some one like addy or diogo as a fullback these players showed a hell of a lot of promise at the under 20 world cup.

thanks buddy i must have got confused with the rule.

Ok, now I have time to enjoy posting in peace. Sunday morning, Milan plays today, Liverpool-United at 5pm, nothing to study today, its sunny outside. All ok today

A question is for Dutchie-Milan ( or someone who has seen a lot of Suarez ): Do you agree with me on my thoughts that Milan does not necessayr need a tall CF and that Suarez may have the needed quality to play our CF? From what I've seen from him, he is phisically strong player, enough to play 1 on 1 with all the CB's. He has speed and technique, and ability to keep it simple and play for the team also.

Also he has some habits that are good for serious teams that are farefull of tactical setups and defence. HE can play on both attacking wings, which means he can defend on Dinho's side ( like Eto'o used to do in Barca days if youremember ) and he can exchange positions with Pato ( which our CF's cant do, and it can be an important asset to versality of a team! ).

Also, in our 4-3-3, Suarez is a CF that could play deep and close the gap in the middle that appears when Dinho is not moving to the middle and CF's stay deep up front. That way we have attacking trio + BF and one midfielder who can play football with flow.

I am not all for classical CF's like Toni, unless they are world class.

So the question is for you - is Suarez good enough to be a step UP for Milan's game? thanx in advance!

I watch Ajax and Suarez a lot and Suarez is definetly a good prospect. Can play anywhere in a forward line. He is 5'11 so he's hardly tiny. Strong, techincal and a great eye for goal. I think that he'll end up a Barca but I'd be more than happy if he ended up at Milan. Van der Wiel is another prospect at Ajax that would be worth looking at. Quality RB and it's rumoured that Arsenal are sniffing about.

there was article a couple of weeks ago on milan news it evaluating these players it described Milan best players on loan/50-50 at the moment were P Aubameyang Osuji Coppola Paloshci and Diniz. As i far as i Know Darmian is injured Astori is in the mix to get first team football Digao should find another career hasn't been good enough to get a substitute role yet and Umunegbu shows promise.

Originally Posted by Xudong

I wish there was an Italian Brasileiro who could tell us how good these players are.

riends of Milannews welcome to "The boys are out," the weekly column on Wednesday that devotes space to the youth of nursery Rossoneri on loan or in co-ownership in other teams, analyzing and evaluating performance. In questo primo numero, per cominciare, passeremo in rassegna tutti i ragazzi attraverso delle brevi schede tecniche, in modo che tutti voi possiate conoscerli meglio. In this first issue, for starters, we will review all the boys through brief technical specifications, so that all of you can know them better. In seguito arriveremo al punto centrale della rubrica, analizzando le gare disputate dai giovani calciatori. Then you arrive at the central point of the heading, by analyzing the races run by young players.

I Ragazzi in Serie A: Children in Serie A:

Alberto Paloschi (In comproprietà con il Parma, Attaccante, 19 anni, Italia) - Senza dubbio uno tra i più famosi e promettenti giovani rossoneri "in giro", il diciannovenne di Chiari (Brescia) é parso da subito un predestinato. Alberto Paloschi (In co-ownership with Parma, Forward, 19, Italy) - Without a doubt one of the most popular and promising young Rossoneri "around" the nineteen-Chiari (Brescia) It seemed now a preordained. Molti di voi ricorderete il suo folgorante esordio in Serie A in maglia rossonera, con un sigillo dopo pochi secondi contro il Siena a San Siro. Many of you remember her dazzling debut in Serie A in the Rossoneri's shirt, with a seal after a few seconds against Siena at San Siro. Alberto sta giocando la sua stagione a Parma, dove l'anno passato ha contribuito in maniera determinante alla promozione in A con dodici reti. Alberto is playing its season at Parma, where the past year has contributed decisively to the promotion in A with twelve networks. In questa stagione Paloschi é partito benissimo con due gol nelle prime due giornate di campionato. This season Paloschi got an excellent start with two goals in the first two days of the championship. Al momento l'attaccante deve però convivere con una forte concorrenza in attacco, Amoruso e Bojinov sono, infatti, due concorrenti molto agguerriti. Currently, however, the attacker must live with strong competition in attack, Amoruso and Bojinov are, in fact, two fierce competitors. Nelle ultime partite Alberto é partito dalla panchina, ma confidiamo tutti che possa riconquistare il posto da titolare. In later matches Alberto and started on the bench, but all I can hope to regain the starting spot.

Davide Astori (In comproprietà con il Cagliari, Difensore, 22 anni, Italia) - Il giovane del vivaio rossonero più impiegato in questo inizio di stagione (ha saltato una sola gara per squalifica). David Astor (Jointly owned with Cagliari, Defender, 22, Italy) - The young Rossoneri's most widely used in the nursery this season (he missed one race by disqualification). E' alla sua seconda stagione al Cagliari, ceduto ai sardi in comproprietà nell'estate del 2008, nel suo primo anno in rossoblu ha totalizzato dieci presenze. E 'in his second season at Cagliari, Sardinia ceded to jointly summer of 2008, in his first year in rossoblu scored ten o'clock attendance. E' un difensore molto promettente, sia Allegri che Cellino stravedono per lui, lo seguiremo per tutto il campionato con enorme attenzione. It 'a very promising defender, both Allegra Cellino vie to him and followed him throughout the season with great attention.

Marcos Diniz (In prestito al Livorno, Difensore, 22 anni, Brasile) - Difensore brasiliano, nel 2008 é stato ceduto in comproprietà al Livorno, per poi passare in prestito al Crotone. Marcos Diniz (on loan to Livorno, Defender, 22, Brazil) - Brazilian defender, in 2008 has been assigned jointly to Livorno, then move on loan to Crotone. Nel 2009 Diniz é stato riscattato dal Milan, ora é di nuovo in prestito a Livorno.In questo inizio di stagione é stato impiegato quattro volte, purtroppo la classifica deficitaria dei toscani non é certo l'ideale per far emergere un giovane. In 2009, Diniz was redeemed from Milan, now and again to lend Livorno.In this season has been used four times, unfortunately, the ranking of the Tuscans deficit is not the ideal for the emergence of a young man.

Michal Miskiewicz (In prestito al Chievo, Portiere, 20 anni, Polonia) - Giovane portiere polacco, quest'anno é al Chievo come riserva di Sorrentino e Squizzi. Michal Miskiewicz (on loan to Chievo, Goalkeeper, 20 years, Poland) - Young Polish goalkeeper, this year is to Chievo as a store of Sorrentino and Squizzi.


I Ragazzi in Serie B: Children in Serie B:

Matteo Darmian (in prestito al Padova, Difensore, 19 anni, Italia) - Promettentissimo difensore, che può giocare sia da centrale sia da terzino destro, fece il suo debutto al Milan a soli sedici anni in Coppa Italia. Matthew Darmian (on loan to Padua, Defender, 19, Italy) - Promettentissimo defender who can play at both central to right-back, made his debut at just sixteen years in Milan Italy Cup. Matteo è stato ceduto in prestito al Padova, durante l'ultima sessione estiva di calciomercato, purtroppo un brutto infortunio in agosto, una frattura “da stress” allo scafoide del piede sinistro, l'ha tenuto fuori per tutto l'inizio di stagione. Matthew was transferred on loan at Padua during the last session of summer transfer market, unfortunately, a bad accident in August, a fracture "stress" to the scaphoid in his left foot, he held out for all the beginning of the season. Secondo gli ultimi comunicati il rientro di Darmian dovrebbe essere vicino. According to the latest press the return of Darmian should be near.

Daniel Offredi (in prestito all'Albinoleffe, Portiere, 21 anni, Italia) - Giovane portiere scuola Milan, nella scorsa stagione ha disputato un'ottima stagione da titolare al Pro Sesto. Daniel Offredi (all'Albinoleffe borrowed, Goalkeeper, 21 years, Italy) - Junior goalie school Milan, last season he had a very successful season as proprietor at Pro Sesto. Quest'estate é passato in prestito all'Albinoleffe, dove ha giocato la prima gara del campionato. This summer has passed in loan all'Albinoleffe, where he played the first race of the championship. Purtroppo però l'arrivo di Pellizzoli lo ha chiuso e non ha trovato più spazio. Unfortunately, the arrival of Pellizzola has closed and did not find more space.

Elia Legati (in comproprietà con il Crotone, Difensore, 23 anni, Italia) - Difensore, nato a Fidenza, ha militato nel Legnano, nel Monaco e nel Novara. Elijah Legacies (jointly with the Croton, Defender, 23, Italy) - Midfielder, born in Wertheim, was active in Legnano, in Monaco and in Novara. In questa estate é stato ceduto in comproprietà al Crotone, disputando sei presenze in campionato. This summer has been assigned jointly to Crotone, competing in six appearances in the league.

Digao (in prestito al Lecce, Difensore, 24 anni, Brasile) - Fratello del celebre asso brasiliano Kakà, l'anno scorso ha militato nello Standard Liegi, riportando un grave infortunio. Dam (on loan at Lecce, Defender, 24, Brazil) - The brother of the famous Brazilian ace Kaka, last year he played for Standard Liège, reporting a serious injury. Quest'anno é in prestito al Lecce, ma non sta trovando spazio, una sola presenza per lui. This year is on loan to Lecce, but is finding space, a mere presence to him.


I Ragazzi in Prima Divisione : The men in First Division:

Wilfred Osuji (in prestito al Varese, Centrocampista, 19 anni, Nigeria). Wilfred Osuji (on loan to Varese, Midfielder, 19 years, Nigeria). Un folletto di talento, ecco chi é Wilfred Osuji, che nonostante la giovane età sta trovando discreto spazio al Varese, avendo disputato ben cinque gare. An elf of talent, that's who and Wilfred Osuji, who despite his young age is finding space to discrete Varese, having played five matches.

Giorgio Gianola (in prestito al Varese, Centrocampista, 20 anni, Italia) - Centrocampista classe 1989 ceduto in prestito al Varese quest'estate, finora non ha trovato spazio. Giorgio Gianola (on loan to Varese, Midfielder, 20 years, Italy) - Midfielder Class 1989 loaned to Varese this summer, has not found space.

Kingsley Umunegbu (in prestito al Varese, Attaccante, 19 anni, Nigeria) - Attaccante nigeriano, ha militato nella Salernitana e nel Portogruaro, per poi passare al Varese in presto nell'estate del 2009. Kingsley Umunegbu (on loan to Varese, Forward, 19 years, Nigeria) - Nigerian striker, played in Salernitana and Portogruaro, then go to Varese in the early summer of 2009. Come Gianola, non sta trovando spazio. How Gianola, is not finding space.

Filippo Noventa (in prestito al Monza, Difensore, 19 anni, Italia) Filippo Noventa (on loan to Monza, Defender, 19, Italy)


I Ragazzi in Seconda Divisione: The men in the Second Division:

Matteo Bruscagin (in prestito al Gubbio, Difensore, 20 anni, Italia) - Matteo ha miliato la scorsa stagione nel Monza (prima divisione, con due presenze all'attivo. A gennaio di quest'anno é passato al Pizzighettone (seconda divisione), disputando ben dodici gare. In estate é passato in prestito al Gubbio dove conta due presenze, una in Campionato ed una in Coppa Italia. Bisogna però considerare che Bruscagin é mancato tutto il mese di settembre, impegnato con la Nazionale per il Mondiale Under20. In Egitto Matteo conta una presenza: la grande vittoria per 3-1 contro la Spagna agli ottavi di finale. Matthew Bruscagin (on loan to Gubbio, Defender, 20, Italy) - Matthew has miliato last season in Monza (first division, with two appearances on the assets. In January of this year rose to Pizzighettone (second division), competing in twelve races. In the summer and spent on loan at Gubbio, where there are two appearances, one championship and a Cup in Italy. We must however consider that Bruscagin and missed the entire month of September, involved with the national team for World Under20. In Egypt Matthew has a presence: the great 3-1 win against Spain to the knockout stage.



Davide Facchin (in prestito al Pavia, Portiere, 22 anni, Italia) Davide Facchin (on loan to Pavia, Porter, 22, Italy)


I Ragazzi all'estero: Dougy abroad

Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (in prestito al Lille, Attaccante, 20 anni, Gabon) - Decisamente il più promettente della "stirpe Aubameyang", Pierre é stato ceduto in prestito al Lille nella sessione estiva di calciomercato, dopo aver disputato una grande stagione a Dijon l'anno scorso (33 presenze e 8 reti). Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (on loan to Lille, Striker, 20, Gabon) - Definitely the most promising "seed Aubameyang," Pierre has been loaned to Lille in the summer session of the Asia Cup after playing a great season in Dijon last year (33 appearances and 8 goals). Al Lille ha collezionato finora quttro presenze. At Lille has collected so far quttro attendance.

Willy Aubameyang (in prestito all'Eupen, Attaccante, 22 anni, Gabon) - Fratello maggiore di Pierre, dopo una stagione non esaltante ad Avellino, é stato ceduto in prestito all'Eupen, squadra belga di seconda divisione. Willy Aubameyang (on loan all'Eupen, Forward, 22, Gabon) - elder brother of Pierre, after an exciting season not to Avellino, it was loaned all'Eupen, Belgian second division team.


Dopo questa introduzione dei ragazzi di cui ci occuperemo in questa stagione, passiamo al cuore della rubrica, analizzando le prove dei rossoneri scesi in campo in questo weekend. Ogni settimana segnaleremo il migliore tra i giovani rossoneri in giro per ltalia ed Europa. After this introduction of the boys as we will this season, we go to the heart of the heading, by analyzing the evidence of the Rossoneri fielded this weekend. Every week we'll list the best among the young Rossoneri around ltaly and Europe. Il giocatore che a fine stagione avrà ottenuto più riconoscimenti sarà decretato il "Campione" de "I ragazzi sono in giro", sperando che le sue prestazioni positive possano ripetersi un giorno anche al Milan. The player at the end of the season will have won more awards will be declared the "champion" de "The boys are out," hoping that his positive benefits can be repeated one day in Milan.

Alberto Paloschi (Voto 5.5) Alberto Paloschi (Score 5.5)

Parma -Siena 1-0, 26' giocati (subentrato a Bojinov al 64') Siena-Parma 1-0, 26 'Played (formerly Bojinov to 64')

Alberto Paloschi, dopo un brillante avvio stagionale, al momento é chiuso dalla coppia Amoruso-Bojinov, quest'ultimo tra l'altro autore del gol vittoria contro il Siena. Alberto Paloschi, after a brilliant start the season, when it is closed by the pair Amoruso-Bojinov, this among the other author of the winning goal against Siena. Nel secondo tempo Guidolin ha deciso di sostituire l'attaccante bulgaro con il giovane ex milanista. In the second half Guidolin has decided to replace the Bulgarian striker with the young ex Milani. Paloschi, nei minuti a sua disposizione, oltre a rimediare un cartellino giallo, ha avuto due buone occasioni da gol, con due colpi di testa facilmente neutralizzati da Curci. Paloschi, in minutes at his disposal, in addition to remedy a yellow card, had two good scoring chances, with two shots of head easily neutralized by Curci. L'importante é che il giovane attaccante si faccia trovare pronto, la mira e il gol prima o poi ritorneranno. The important thing is that the young striker is made to find ready, aim and the goal sooner or later return.


Davide Astori (Voto 5.5) David Astor (Score 5.5)

Catania - Cagliari 2-1, 90' giocati Catania - Cagliari 2-1, 90 'Played

Astori meriterebbe una sufficienza, se non fosse per il gol incassato nei minuti finali dal Cagliari. Astori deserves a sufficient, if it were not for a goal in the final minutes earned from Cagliari. La prova di Davide é stata soddisfacente come al solito, buoni interventi e discreta sicurezza, tuttavia al 88' perde Martinez, il quale riceve in area un cross di Morimoto dalla destra e segna di testa.Peccato. The trial of David was satisfactory as usual, good speeches and discreet security, however, the 88 'lost Martinez, who receives the area's cross from the right and a sign of Morimoto testa.Peccato. Lo stesso Astori ha commentato così l'episodio: "Nel secondo gol, penso di avere delle responsabilità, ho perso la marcatura di Martinez. Dovevamo prestare maggiore attenzione". The same Astori commented the incident: "In the second goal, I think I have responsibilities, I lost the marking of Martinez. We had to pay more attention."


Wilfred Osuji (voto 6.5) "IL MIGLIORE" Wilfred Osuji (grade 6.5) "THE BEST"

Varese - Figline 1-0, 29' giocati (Subentrato a Buzzegoli al 61') Varese - Figline 1-0, 29 'Played (formerly Buzzegoli to 61')

Wilfred Osuji é la nota lieta di questo numero dei "ragazzi sono in giro". Wilfred Osuji is pleased to note that number of the boys are around. " Subentrato nel secondo tempo di Varese Figline (1^ divisione girone A) al posto di uno spento Buzzegoli, ha saputo dare una marcia in più alla sua squadra, insieme a Momenté, anche lui sceso in campo nella ripresa e autore del gol vittoria. Succeeded in the second half of Varese Figline (1st division group A) instead of a Buzzegoli off, was able to give an edge over his team, along with time, even he took to the field after the break and scored the winning goal victory. Il centrocampista nigeriano é un vero peperino, utilissimo alla manovra del Varese. The Nigerian midfielder is a real tuff, very useful in the movement of Varese. Il tecnico dei biancorossi, Sannino, lo ha elogiato al termine del match: "Quello che contava oggi era vincere. Mi sono piaciuti parecchio, soprattutto per come hanno affrontato la partita, Osuji , Momentè e Del Sante entrati nel secondo tempo". The coach of the white and red, Sannino, praised him after the match: "What is important now was to win. I liked a lot, especially as they approached the game, Osuji, Moment and the Holy entered the second half."


Pierre Aubameyang (Voto 6) Pierre Aubameyang (Score 6)

Lille LOSC - Rennes 0-0, 19' giocati (Subentrato a Frau al 71') LOSC Lille - Rennes 0-0, 19 'Played (formerly Frau to 71')

Adesso ci spostiamo in Francia, dove milita il più giovane dei fratelli Aubameyang, il talentuoso Pierre. Now we move to France, where the youngest of the brothers militates Aubameyang, the talented Pierre. In questa giornata il giovane attaccante del Gabon é stato inserito da Rudi Garcia nel secondo tempo, al posto di Frau, per cercare di sbloccare il match. On this day the young striker of Gabon has been entered by Rudi Garcia in the second half in place of Frau, to try to unlock the match. Purtroppo l'inerzia della partita era già delineata, ragion per cui il giovane Pierre non ha potuto fare molto nei pochi minuti a disposizione. Unfortunately, the inertia of the game had already outlined, so that the young Pierre was unable to do much in the few minutes available.

thank you very much JohnCharles. that was a good read

Originally Posted by Lebanese

i read an article about our loaned-out co-owned player some where i will update you with it

Thanks.

Originally Posted by johncharles365

there was article a couple of weeks ago on milan news it evaluating these players it described Milan best players on loan/50-50 at the moment were P Aubameyang Osuji Coppola Paloshci and Diniz. As i far as i Know Darmian is injured Astori is in the mix to get first team football Digao should find another career hasn't been good enough to get a substitute role yet and Umunegbu shows promise.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by johncharles365

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WOW. THANKS! I am going to read it carefully, even though it is a bit challenging with such a mix of English and Italian. But thanks a lot!

Just to let you guys know that Braida IS in Vila Belmiro(Santos Stadium) right now to watch Santos X São Paulo. Braida sent an formal request for Santos president to watch the game and scout Paulo Henrique and Miranda. No words about Hernanes...

Wrong game, he need to be watching Internacional X Grêmio

Originally Posted by Rossoneri Fuego

Brasileiro! oi e diogo nao e un um bom jogador? gosto como jogo contra ghana soube?

Rossoneri, after Chievo X Milan, Santos X São Paulo, Internacional X Grêmio and Corinthinas X Cruzeiro I will give my opinion about Diogo, Ok? Now, it´s time to watch some games

Originally Posted by Milano84

Brasiliero, loved your posts. Didn't wanna quote them to takeup space. Reports are Milan is onna scout paulo henrique I'm santos-sao paolo game this weekend. My opinion is it's an opportunity to see a number of players in a big time game...

Dunno if ur planning on watching it but if so care to give a lttle scouting summary of interesting players??

Thanks Milano...
What I said above... And, I will try to watch 2 games(Milan and one more of Brasileirão) and put the Tivo to record more 2... So, in some days I will tell you my opinion.

Originally Posted by Lebanese

blacktop whats wrong with you, if you dont like what you read, dont comment. almost everyone in this forum speak 3 languages so please spare us from your english lessons.

+ 1000000

Braida is there to watch P. Henrique, but Hernanes is stealing the show... Great play at the left, was fouled and in the freekick scored a amazing goal! WOW!!!

my stream for internacional is simply horrible and I cant see the game that way, its too annoying. So I'll wait for your wiew of Hernanes and Giuliano, as I wouldnt choose Miranda from what I've seen from him untill now. And also Henrique seems to soft to play for Milan in 3 months.

Originally Posted by mrki

my stream for internacional is simply horrible and I cant see the game that way, its too annoying. So I'll wait for your wiew of Hernanes and Giuliano, as I wouldnt choose Miranda from what I've seen from him untill now. And also Henrique seems to soft to play for Milan in 3 months.

Yep, Paulo Henrique is being invisible and already has 3 offside. Bad game for the boy, but for me good news, since I don´t think he will be good for us. Talented, but not for us and Serie A game.

Miranda is playing bad also for Brazil NT(he´s in a poor form). As I said in the past, good defender but not worth of a non-Eu spot.

Hernanes is still playing at 80% of what he can do, but everytime he touch the ball something good happens for São Paulo.

TV people were saying that Braida was there to watch only P. Henrique and Miranda. Maybe Hernanes take it as an offence, and want to show that is better than both...

Im sure only Braida knows who is he watching. But its weird he saw Santos only when Neymar went to the U17 WC ( where he scored a great goal vs Japan ).

Your thoughts about Suarez from Ajax Brasiliero? As some Croatian papers say Milan is close to the player for january. We already discussed him in here.

If Suarez will come(wich will not happen)then the 4-3-3 formation would be PERFECT,Suarez on the left,Pato on the right and Huntelaar(who was great with Suarez at Ajax)in the middle,Suarez is perfect on the wing,you can compare him with Pato,fast,strong at the ball despite not being big,great technique and they both can score goals.

But like i said before,Suarez doesnt want to leave in the winter mercato,he wants to finish the season and go to the WC in South-Africa and Ajax recently said they would only consider a transfer if a big club came and makes a crazy bid of 40 million or more......and Milan would NEVER offer such money for a player from Ajax......

Suarez would fit our style and formation,but he is too expensive for now,and he does want to move only next summer.......

So i dont think he will come really...