Winter Mercato

i think its a case of people dont take us seriously no more we make promises but never deliver.

Originally Posted by Mehdi

Management gave Ancelotti Donati, Foggia, Donadel, Marzoratti and Gourcuff. Four of them have left while Gourcuff sits on the bench. Who is to blame for that? Ancelotti. It's Ancelotti who asked for Emerson while the board were chasing Banega.

Donati & Donadel were part of Terim & Zaccheroni's teams not Ancelotti's. Foggia as a pure winger didn't fit his tactics. Admittedly could help us now, but he made a choice.
Gourcuff needs to prove himself in training, instead of moaning to his dad about not playing.
Marzoratti needs experience as he's got Simic, Bonera, Kala in front of him.

We couldn't sign Banega as he's non-Eu, so it would be a choice of Pato v Banega. I think we made the right choice.

Ancelotti named 3 players during the summer - Alex, Ribery & Toni. The last 2 were virtually signed before Berlu said no, as he wanted R10, which has come back to bite us big time.
Emerson was and is a mistake, no matter if Carlo wanted him or not.
Only signed as he was cheap, and they were desperate for something to appease us fans. Well they failed BIG TIME.

Originally Posted by Tony75

Donati & Donadel were part of Terim & Zaccheroni's teams not Ancelotti's. Foggia as a pure winger didn't fit his tactics. Admittedly could help us now, but he made a choice.
Gourcuff needs to prove himself in training, instead of moaning to his dad about not playing.
Marzoratti needs experience as he's got Simic, Bonera, Kala in front of him.

We couldn't sign Banega as he's non-Eu, so it would be a choice of Pato v Banega. I think we made the right choice.

Ancelotti named 3 players during the summer - Alex, Ribery & Toni. The last 2 were virtually signed before Berlu said no, as he wanted R10, which has come back to bite us big time.
Emerson was and is a mistake, no matter if Carlo wanted him or not.
Only signed as he was cheap, and they were desperate for something to appease us fans. Well they failed BIG TIME.

yeah i agree, Emerson is mistake. He wasnt good enough for real, let alone us.
is Emerson signed just for 1 season?

Maresca would have been such a better signing, and why do we need 4 dms?

Do Galliani and co really think us fans are that stupid that we can be bought off by a name? if thats the case i would have prefer Albertini to come out of retirement

Originally Posted by kastriot

In 2001-2002 Abbiati was one of the best players of the team together with Gattuso... I think Also here in MM he was voted best player of the season.

He was that good that year, that I was stunned and pissed off to see Dida paying in the CL qualification against Slovan Liberec next season . Dida than proved his worth,and even me that i`m not a professional could tell the difference btw those two.Dida is much better GK than Abbiatti could ever be.

Dida has had only 2-3 great seasons in his career (all with Milan), before that he was just an OK keeper and he has been probably below average the last couple of seasons for Milan, while Dida at top form is certainly better than Abbiati at top form the truth is Dida has not been playing well for a while now and if he doesn't improve he deserves to be benched, but since we loaned out Abbiati and Storari we don't have a good replacement for him. In football like in every other job no one should live from past glories. If in my job I perform like Dida has been performing for Milan lately they won't be that patient with me (even having a good track record as I have) and I would be looking for another job and that's for sure.

Originally Posted by Paolo3

Dida has had only 2-3 great seasons in his career (all with Milan), before that he was just an OK keeper and he has been probably below average the last couple of seasons for Milan, while Dida at top form is certainly better than Abbiati at top form the truth is Dida has not been playing well for a while now and if he doesn't improve he deserves to be benched, but since we loaned out Abbiati and Storari we don't have a good replacement for him. In football like in every other job no one should live from past glories. If in my job I perform like Dida has been performing for Milan lately they won't be that patient with me (even having a good track record as I have) and I would be looking for another job and that's for sure.

thats a point ive always made so far. If i had lied to my employees, or made i promise i couldnt deliver i could get fired, worst case get sued. Dida is paid tons for what he does, when really it should be by how he performs.

Originally Posted by Graeme C

thats a point ive always made so far. If i had lied to my employees, or made i promise i couldnt deliver i could get fired, worst case get sued. Dida is paid tons for what he does, when really it should be by how he performs.

I couldn't agree more with that.

I've lost trust im milan management tbh.. I don't know why I think this, but imo, if Milan is "friends" with one of there players, they'll be starting, even if they preform like brocchi (prime example).

I'm just glad kaka is the GOD he is.

http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=431992

And if milan management showed an inch of the respect kaka' has been showing, they'd have made something of our summer mercato.

Originally Posted by Tony75

Donati & Donadel were part of Terim & Zaccheroni's teams not Ancelotti's.

And? They're both good players, much better than Brocchi for example.

Foggia as a pure winger didn't fit his tactics.

Complete and utter rubbish. He was NEVER given a chance.

Admittedly could help us now, but he made a choice. Gourcuff needs to prove himself in training, instead of moaning to his dad about not playing.

In the brief chances he's been given in the first team he's performed far better than Brocchi or Serginho have recently.

Marzoratti needs experience as he's got Simic, Bonera, Kala in front of him.

Don't use that crap excuse. How did Maldini get experience when he was 17? How did Kaka' get experience when he first arrived? By playing. Simic, Cafu and Favalli will not improve, they peaked years ago. We know what we will get from them. Marzoratti will learn more playing in the Milan first team than he will at Empoli and he's quicker than Simic, Cafu and Favalli. With players like Marzoratti there is an upside, they can only get better, not worse like the old men.

Ancelotti named 3 players during the summer - Alex, Ribery & Toni. The last 2 were virtually signed before Berlu said no, as he wanted R10, which has come back to bite us big time.

Management were convinced Ronaldinho or Eto'o would sign. stuff happens.

Emerson was and is a mistake, no matter if Carlo wanted him or not.
Only signed as he was cheap, and they were desperate for something to appease us fans. Well they failed BIG TIME

Yes they did but so too has Ancelotti. He makes very poor use of the squad at his disposal and maybe management would sign more young players if Ancelotti actually played the ones he has more regularly.

I don't think Emerson was a mistake.. I'd rather have him, then no him

I'm new in the forum...but have been reading the opinions in the forum for months and gotta put in my 2 cents!

Simic is once again moaning and threatening to leave. I wish he would just finally leave, all he does is whine.

Kompany would be an ideal replacement

Elsewhere there is news of Aguerro being hunted by Inter & Juve, but they might be scared off by his £15 million price tag

Hmmm ... Aguerro, Kaka & Pato up front?

Complete and utter rubbish. He was NEVER given a chance.

He was forced out of Milan because the management wanted Oddo, and Lazio wanted Foggia in return. Can't really blame Ancelotti for Foggia not being part of Milan anymore. We all knew he was gold, even Carlo.

In the brief chances he's been given in the first team he's performed far better than Brocchi or Serginho have recently.

Brocchi is DM, Serginho(who hasn't played for almost a year) SB and Gorky is an AM. Hard to compare them eh?
Instead of criticising, try to look at it from Ancelotti's point of view.
He knows Gourcuff is good, but what can he do apart from giving him some sub minutes? Bench Seedorf or Kaka?
Don't think so, if he does that and we lose, everyone will blame him for benching one of these.

Management were convinced Ronaldinho or Eto'o would sign. stuff happens.

Stuff happens? For a top side like Milan to make such a flop transfercampagne? I don't think that Ronaldinho nor Eto'o even considered signing for us at the end of last season.

Yes they did but so too has Ancelotti. He makes very poor use of the squad at his disposal and maybe management would sign more young players if Ancelotti actually played the ones he has more regularly.

If there is one thing Ancelotti should be praised about its his use of our squad.On paper we are quite limited and yet the man succeeds in winning the CL. I think it is Galliani and Berlu who wanted to bring back old glories such as Rivaldo.
It's Ancelotti who asked for Pato and Gourcuff.
Apart from them, who is there to give a chance in our squad?
Aubameyang? Darmian(sucks)?Digao(even worse)?

Originally Posted by ThrusT

Instead of criticising, try to look at it from Ancelotti's point of view.
He knows Gourcuff is good, but what can he do apart from giving him some sub minutes? Bench Seedorf or Kaka?
Don't think so, if he does that and we lose, everyone will blame him for benching one of these.

How about trying to change the formation to include Gourcuff, Seedorf & KAKA. Why is Emerson starting or being brought in to games ahead of Gourcuff?

Consistant minutes are needed to prove if you are of worth or garbage. Gourcuff nor the others you mentioned have gotten that so I don't know how you can say the others suck.

Furthermore some players suck in practice but are brilliant in real game situations...just like some player I'm sure are amazing in practice but can't hit the target in game situations when given consistant opportunities.

I guess IMO Ancelotti has to shake things up a bit, take a risk, put in a young gun, see what he can do...guaranteed it's not gonna be any worse than what we're doing now.

I think there is a reason why Carlo isn't playing Gourcuff but it's a well kept secret.
You have problems scoring, sometimes even creating, you have less midfielders than any other team in Italy and still Gourcuff didn't get a single minute.
Something's happening, imo.

Originally Posted by Mr. Anonymous

How about trying to change the formation to include Gourcuff, Seedorf & KAKA. Why is Emerson starting or being brought in to games ahead of Gourcuff?

Consistant minutes are needed to prove if you are of worth or garbage. Gourcuff nor the others you mentioned have gotten that so I don't know how you can say the others suck.

Furthermore some players suck in practice but are brilliant in real game situations...just like some player I'm sure are amazing in practice but can't hit the target in game situations when given consistant opportunities.

I guess IMO Ancelotti has to shake things up a bit, take a risk, put in a young gun, see what he can do...guaranteed it's not gonna be any worse than what we're doing now.

fully agree, why dont we play them all, less than 2 years ago we used to play with Kaka, Seedorf and 2 strickers as Seedorf was a LM so we can do the same right now he or Gourcof can play as a LM or RM while the other 2 plays as AM instead off playing with 3 DM, 2 AM and one stricker.