Winter Mercato

I hope we can have Ronaldo on loan for the rest of the season. He would be great backup for our strikers. I mean, it's only Gilardino of our strikers who are in form.

Then, if Ronaldo shows his potential we can probably get him cheap in the summer as he's finished in Madrid anyway. Or let him go somewhere else if he hasn't done too god.

Great replacement for Borriello in any case.

Originally Posted by Arildonardo

Great replacement for Borriello in any case.

With his wages, he'll be everything but replacement for Borriello.
He'll have a guaranteed place in starting 11 in serie A, imo !

And if you get Ronaldo, it will be only a 6 months loan, i'm sure. Because if you wanna buy him lately, you'll get a "Kaka request" from Madrid.
Unless you wanna sell Kaka to Real, then it's better not to have anything to do with those guys.

from channel 4:

We are linked with Storari from Messina, I found him a good goalkeeper in the games I saw of him, it were only 2-3 games so I don't really know him well. But it would be a good short solution, I think.

Here in Greece we have the information that Belletti is very close to Milan, there is nothing still sure just why i didnt post a new thread.

We are linked to 1000 players every transfer window, And I dont know weather they are only rumors, or our management is really unsuccessful. We have only managed to sign players out of blue..ex: Bonera,Favalli,Grimi,Oliveira, I really don`t belive in Braida`s and Galliani`s ability to negotiate anymore...

Originally Posted by Tony29.

With his wages, he'll be everything but replacement for Borriello.
He'll have a guaranteed place in starting 11 in serie A, imo !

And if you get Ronaldo, it will be only a 6 months loan, i'm sure. Because if you wanna buy him lately, you'll get a "Kaka request" from Madrid.
Unless you wanna sell Kaka to Real, then it's better not to have anything to do with those guys.

I doubt Ronaldo would have a guaranteed place in the starting 11 and wages won't matter here since if he comes he would be subjected to a "test" period till the end of the season or, if he does come on a permamnent deal, it would be a very cheap transfer.
I doubt Milan are getting Ronnie to grant him a starting place no matter what, but mostly to see if they could get him back. or at least near, his past form and reap any possible rewards from that ... after all, there arent many strikers out there who are better than an inform Ronaldo ... the question here is whether we'd be able to get him back in shape, hence, Milan's desire to get him on loan.
Kaka's name will hardly come up here as Real are literary desperate to make Capello happy and get rid of Ronnie as soon as possible ... so desperate that even letting him go for free would be fine with them giving his wages and Capello's refusal to have him in the squad as a back up. Should they mention Kaka in the conversation, Real are well aware that Milan will end the negotiations and thus they, Real, will lose a great opportunity to get rid of their burden ...

Originally Posted by zlatanov

I doubt Ronaldo would have a guaranteed place in the starting 11 and wages won't matter here since if he comes he would be subjected to a "test" period till the end of the season or, if he does come on a permamnent deal, it would be a very cheap transfer.

I'm talking about a guaranteed starting 11 place till the end of this season, in case he joins you on loan.
I'm not sure who'll pay his wages in next 6 months if he comes on loan, but if it's going to be Milan, then i don't see him on the bench in serie A ( concidering he won't play CL at all and the latest Inzaghi incident) thus i can't see him as a Borriello replacement as the member above said.

Originally Posted by zlatanov

I doubt Milan are getting Ronnie to grant him a starting place no matter what, but mostly to see if they could get him back. or at least near, his past form and reap any possible rewards from that ... after all, there arent many strikers out there who are better than an inform Ronaldo ... the question here is whether we'd be able to get him back in shape, hence, Milan's desire to get him on loan.

Kaka's name will hardly come up here as Real are literary desperate to make Capello happy and get rid of Ronnie as soon as possible ... so desperate that even letting him go for free would be fine with them giving his wages and Capello's refusal to have him in the squad as a back up. Should they mention Kaka in the conversation, Real are well aware that Milan will end the negotiations and thus they, Real, will lose a great opportunity to get rid of their burden ...

But Kaka's name will have to come up if you do get Ronnie in shape.

You're getting him on loan :
1. If he fails you're not getting anything but paying his wages, and Real sells him in USA or Saudi Arabia. Win ( not paying his wages)-Win ( selling him anyway) situation for Real
2. If he gets back his form, he's still Real's player. Real may decide to keep him or sell him. If they decide to sell him they will get many offers ( concidering Ronaldo is back in shape) , and if Milan will like to buy him then i don't see how Kaka's name won't come up.
You're getting blackmailed : "Eather sell us Kaka or no Ronaldo. If you don't wanna buy Ronaldo, then fine. There are many who'll like to get him from us"
Win-Win situation for Real again.

The most Milan can get from Ronaldo ( without having to sell Kaka to Real) is to get his help in serie A for getting 4th place. And that's something you'll achieve anyway, even without Ronaldo !

Originally Posted by zlatanov

if he does come on a permamnent deal, it would be a very cheap transfer.
.

This is another case, though !
If Milan buys him now, then what you're saying is valid. Neather Kaka's name will come out, neather he'll have to be a starter !

We are connected only with rubbish,rubbish,rubbish,rubbish,rubbish, and again rubbish players!

We need desparate a good GK and we are close to sign Storari!
We also need a good Striker and we are connected with Ronaldo!

We are not anymore at the level of Barca,Chelsea or Real!
We can't steel from them any player that they are going to sign!We are allowed only to sign their rubbish players hat they offers to us or an unproven player!Or Mr. Berlusconi doesn't want to spend big money and brings us them best for milan!We had an aged Milan and we are not doing anything for the good of this club!

Originally Posted by rosoneri_11

We are connected only with rubbish players!

I'd rather be connected with rubbish players and buy classy players, then being connected to classy ones and buy rubbish !

These are only rumours, and as many members said many times : Milan is almost never buying the players connected to Milan by some journalists !

Originally Posted by Tony29.

I'm talking about a guaranteed starting 11 place till the end of this season, in case he joins you on loan.
I'm not sure who'll pay his wages in next 6 months if he comes on loan, but if it's going to be Milan, then i don't see him on the bench in serie A ( concidering he won't play CL at all and the latest Inzaghi accident) thus i can't see him as a Borriello replacement as the member above said.





But Kaka's name will have to come up if you do get Ronnie in shape.

You're getting him on loan :
1. If he fails you're not getting anything but paying his wages, and Real sells him in USA or Saudi Arabia. Win ( not paying his wages)-Win ( selling him anyway) situation for Real
2. If he gets back his form, he's still Real's player. Real may decide to keep him or sell him. If they decide to sell him they will get many offers ( concidering Ronaldo is back in shape) , and if Milan will like to buy him then i don't see how Kaka's name won't come up.
You're getting blackmailed : "Eather sell us Kaka or no Ronaldo. If you don't wanna buy Ronaldo, then fine. There are many who'll like to get him from us"
Win-Win situation for Real again.

The most Milan can get from Ronaldo ( without having to sell Kaka to Real) is to get his help in serie A for getting 4th place. And that's something you'll achieve anyway, even without Ronaldo !

Yes, I agree that calling ronnie a replacement for Boriello is a little unerrating him as, if all Milan wanted from Ronnie was to sit on the bench and play 15-20 min every 4-5 games apart from Coppa Italia games, they would probably just bet on Aubumeyang and save themselves a small fortune in the form of Ronnie's wages.
What I meant was that Milan HOPE to get Ronnie back in shape and should that happen, he could well become our first choice striker alongside Gilardino. That, however, in no way means that Ronnie would just waltz his way into the Milan strting 11 if Milan's HOPES turn out to be just wishful thinking and he continues with his carefree attitude rather than bust his butt during training sessions.

As for the negotiations, I think Milan is going for a loan deal with a buy-out clause at the end of the season which would mean that should we opt to buy him, the price would be fixed from now and real won't be able to hold us hostage like Chelski did with Crespo a couple of years back. This will also prevent Real from asking us for an option on kaka.

The only things that's stopping the dela for now is that Real wanna make sure that there is no chance for Ronnie to go back to them i.e. Milan won't decide to kick his butt out of Milanello and that's why Real wants to make this deal a permanent one from now.

Also, if Real's transfer fee demands are deemed high by Milan - say 10 mil, Milan may very well ask ronaldo to significantly lower his wage demands from the current 6+ mil/season he's getting at Real, which would turn into another obstacle for the deal to be finalized as ronnie and his agent, got bless him , wont be too happy with cutting back on the income .
These same wages, however, may prove the key in resolving this mess as Real could well decide in the end that it would be best for them to just ask for say 5 mil from Milan for Ronnie - or even hand him to us for free - only and only to get rid of him. Should this happen, Milan would be very likely to sustain Ronnie's current wages - or offer him a little less than 6 mil, say 5 mil - since he would be a relatively cheap solution for them and in a way even a free agent.



EDIT:

As far as real asking us for Kaka, I think the most important factor here is that it is Real that desperately wnats to get rid of Ronie AS SOON AS POSSIBLE no matter what ... that hardly warrents even mentioning kaka's name as, as mentioned, they'd immediately lose a possible solution for them - sending ronnie to Milan - and they would stub themselves in the back.
The same goes for cassano, he's another player Real would beg us to rid them off, so they would hardly dare to even mention an option on Kaka as they are the ones with an interest to get rid of Cassano, not Milan.
If we were speaking of Milan asking Real for Robinho, yes I have no doubt that the first thing Calderon would do is make kaka the subject of the negotiations ... but not when it comes to Cassano and ronnie as the other factors are just too overwhelming.

idd, he wants to get rid of ronnie and cassano,
ronnie has bad influence on robinhio and others ... madrid want to sell them at any price. cassano 2(due to his bad attitude).

now we now for sure they want kaka. but milan made a good step by saying: 'we don't need another striker we got a top striker in our youth + our first team strikers"
so real is not anymore the team who decides who milan will buy(as a striker) if madrid don't want to sell robinhio, that is fine by milan they just tried... madrid will now not included a deal with kaka... they know it is useless...

as for that rubbish response: thats right: ronaldo, oddo, ... we need some world class YOUNG players...
why spend 110mil€ on dinhio? pfff

and why are we in need of strikers???? lets strenghen up our defence

For me its a shame that we are in close to sign Storari and not Amelia or someone else good!
Its a shame that we were close to sign Beckham but at last time thanks God he decided to go at U.S.A!And Galiani confirmed that!Why you stupid Galiani confirmed that???You are proud that you was so close to sign Beckham???Are you joking to us???Yes of course!!!
Its a shame to be connected with 30 years old RB's players, Oddo and Belleti to replace a 36 years old Cafu!
Its a shame to be connected with ronaldo and not for Fernando Torres or someone else at his age and talent!
We had an aged Milan and we are hoping, and going to keep the same team???

Originally Posted by Tony29.

With his wages, he'll be everything but replacement for Borriello.
He'll have a guaranteed place in starting 11 in serie A, imo !

And if you get Ronaldo, it will be only a 6 months loan, i'm sure. Because if you wanna buy him lately, you'll get a "Kaka request" from Madrid.
Unless you wanna sell Kaka to Real, then it's better not to have anything to do with those guys.

Ronaldo still has a tremendous PR-value - more than most players, so I don't think we'd lose that much buy taking him on loan for 6 months. Of course, if Real Madrid make a Kaká request as part of the deal than we should drop the whole thing. I'm not stupid after all...

When I said Ronaldo will be replacement for Borriello, I just meant that Borriello is out and Ronaldo is in. I think Ronaldo is probably better than both Pippo and RO at the time, so he would be our 2nd striker after Gilardino.

I think a trio of Kaká, Gilardino and Ronaldo on top would be formidable. Especially now that Ronaldo has to prove for everone that he's still got it, which is new for the man. And I think Milan is the club to get it out.

Originally Posted by prifess

idd, he wants to get rid of ronnie and cassano,
ronnie has bad influence on robinhio and others ... madrid want to sell them at any price. cassano 2(due to his bad attitude).

now we now for sure they want kaka. but milan made a good step by saying: 'we don't need another striker we got a top striker in our youth + our first team strikers"
so real is not anymore the team who decides who milan will buy(as a striker) if madrid don't want to sell robinhio, that is fine by milan they just tried... madrid will now not included a deal with kaka... they know it is useless...

as for that rubbish response: thats right: ronaldo, oddo, ... we need some world class YOUNG players...
why spend 110mil€ on dinhio? pfff

and why are we in need of strikers???? lets strenghen up our defence

Thanks man!I agree with you 100%!Thats the Milan i want to have!Young with quality and thirsty for victories!!!
Not a granny Milan!