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Old 01-01-2008, 02:00   #10966

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I posted something similar to this in the Zambrotta, Ronaldinho thread. That's why there is a small chance of Ronaldinho coming in January. Because if he decides to use that FIFA out clause, Barca would lose him for pennies compared to what Milan would offer to buy him for now.
Many want him sold NOW!! It would be a lot of money lost & fans would be livid at management if they screwed this Ronnie thing in any way.
Altho this clause has been around for some time, no club has ever used it. All 'big' clubs have a gentlemens agreement not to evoke the Fifa clause 17, as it means losing millions and giving power to the players.

To date no one has used it, but I think Real wanted to break the agreement to sign Kaka, as we know Real were hostile and would have tried every single trick in the book.

If I'm not mistaken, Perez told Berlusconi of Calderon's plans early, so Berlu quickly gave Kaka a new contract. If you notice, Kaka gets a new contract every year or every 2 years, I guess no one in Milan is taking the chance with the 'not-so-gentlemen' agreement after all...
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Old 01-01-2008, 03:15   #10967

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Altho this clause has been around for some time, no club has ever used it. All 'big' clubs have a gentlemens agreement not to evoke the Fifa clause 17, as it means losing millions and giving power to the players.

To date no one has used it, but I think Real wanted to break the agreement to sign Kaka, as we know Real were hostile and would have tried every single trick in the book.

If I'm not mistaken, Perez told Berlusconi of Calderon's plans early, so Berlu quickly gave Kaka a new contract. If you notice, Kaka gets a new contract every year or every 2 years, I guess no one in Milan is taking the chance with the 'not-so-gentlemen' agreement after all...
Not a huge team but, ask Udinese about their ex-keeper/captain Morgan De Sanctis. I'm almost positive he pulled the FIFA clause card out of his rear end and laid it on the table for Udinese & that was it, he was out the door and plays for Sevilla now.

For Kaka to use this clause it would be VERY hard as the rules vary slightly and become more difficult for player under 28, so I don't think Milan were ever really worried about this.

For Ronaldinho to do this, difficult as it maybe, he has the money & the circumstances to pull it off if he so choses.

But since we got so technical with this matter... It may be the case that a player can only buyout the FINAL YEAR of his contract. (and not the last two or three years) If this is the case I don't think next season is the final year of his contract, which means he may not be able to take advantage of this rule. I'm kind of guessing and may be wrong about this final part.
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Old 01-01-2008, 05:15   #10968

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Kasper is the biggest keeper talent in a long while. He needs to improve his actions in the penalty area when he comes out to catch or punch the ball away. When he's mastered that there is no end for him.

I just read on Danish text-tv that Barca have been considering him among other keepers.

For me Buffon and Kasper Schmeichel along with his father proves that goalkeepers can be just as good at age 20 as age 30. IMO.
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Old 01-01-2008, 05:51   #10969

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Have we bought anyone yet? If not, why not? No point wasting time, lets get on with it!
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Old 01-01-2008, 07:15   #10971

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Ever Banega is set to join Valencia, bye bye Banega!

Pato's debut is 2 weeks away
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Old 01-01-2008, 10:58   #10972

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Ever Banega is set to join Valencia, bye bye Banega!

Pato's debut is 2 weeks away
I see Banega is Gattuso's replacement, or more like a step up from Gatusso. We all know Gatusso has grit and heart, but we all know too well that he sometimes can't even make a 5 meter pass... I was hoping that we snap up Banega like we snapped up Pato after the world club cup.

By the way, where did you get your info? If it's goal.com or something like that, there's still hope the deal is not done...

I pity Pato, I think there's too much hype on this guy, unlike Kaka, we didn't really know about him, and he took Serie A by storm... now this 18 year old has been touted all over the press to save our season... talk about pressure!

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Old 01-01-2008, 11:11   #10973

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Not a huge team but, ask Udinese about their ex-keeper/captain Morgan De Sanctis. I'm almost positive he pulled the FIFA clause card out of his rear end and laid it on the table for Udinese & that was it, he was out the door and plays for Sevilla now.

For Kaka to use this clause it would be VERY hard as the rules vary slightly and become more difficult for player under 28, so I don't think Milan were ever really worried about this.

For Ronaldinho to do this, difficult as it maybe, he has the money & the circumstances to pull it off if he so choses.

But since we got so technical with this matter... It may be the case that a player can only buyout the FINAL YEAR of his contract. (and not the last two or three years) If this is the case I don't think next season is the final year of his contract, which means he may not be able to take advantage of this rule. I'm kind of guessing and may be wrong about this final part.
Thanks for the info, wasn't aware that anyone had evoked the clause. But from what i read, it's a gentlemen's agreement between the big clubs across Europe, maybe the G14 clubs. And I don't think udinese have managed to get themselves into the group yet...

But I distinctively remember Galliani saying that all major clubs will not use the clause... But you know Galliani, he's somewhat a compulsive liar...

You have a valid point about Kaka, I forgot that the clause has an age bracket, or maybe they have different rules for below and above 28, not too sure about that... But Kaka surely gets new contracts every now and then, not sure if it's about the clause, or keeping Kaka's from wondering if Real could offer him more money...

If I were Kaka's agent, I would keep the 'Real' rumour mill spinning, and make my millions in commissions every time he signs a new contract...
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Old 01-01-2008, 11:19   #10974

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What i want from Milan, now: Sell Ronaldo, buy Sheva and a LB. For targets, get UCL again, get the 4th place in the the league and why don't go fot th Italina Cup?

Players i would love to see in Milan (2008): Torosidis (Greece), Banega, Daniel Alves, a LB, a big CB, a new WC Keeper, Sheva and another one attacker, Gomez, Benzema, Aguerro, A MF, Van De Vaart, Carlo stay, Gila stay, Gurcuff stay and play more, go to 4-4-2 formation at least in small games in the league.

Win Serie A. CL, Toyta, Italian Cup, CL but finally scuddetto.

Players i want to see out: Brocchi, Emerson, Cafu, Sergihno, Simic (not so much), Dida, Inzaghi, Ronaldo, Favalli,


Players proposed, Schmeihel, Occhoa, Amelia, Gomez, Akinveef, Daniel Alves, Torosidis, Van de Vaart, Rakitic, De Rossi, Fabregas (very difficult), Banega, Huntelaar (He is in a great shape), Benzema, Villa, Berbatov....
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Old 01-01-2008, 11:52   #10975

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Lol that would be the best team I've ever seen no doubting that.. However are milan ready to sell all those players and splash out all that money? Surely by now they see they need new players ehH?

This January I want :

Sold: Ronaldo,Simic,Brocchi,Dida
Bought:Gomes,Zambrotta,Ronaldinho,Sheva,Berbatov,Richards
I'm expecting at least 3 of those players, or 3 of equal quality to arrive in January, especially if we expect a 4th place finish in our current position.

I expect Milan too reach the Quarter or Semi-Final of the CL this year, along with winning the Italian Cup, and a 4th or 3rd place finish.
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Old 01-01-2008, 13:12   #10976

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What i want from Milan, now: Sell Ronaldo, buy Sheva and a LB. For targets, get UCL again, get the 4th place in the the league and why don't go fot th Italina Cup?

Players i would love to see in Milan (During 2008): Torosidis (Greece), Banega, Daniel Alves, a LB, a big CB, a new WC Keeper, Sheva and another one attacker, Gomez, Benzema, Aguerro, A MF, Van De Vaart, Carlo stay, Gila stay, Gurcuff stay and play more, go to 4-4-2 formation at least in small games in the league.

Win Serie A. CL, Toyta, Italian Cup, CL but finally scuddetto.

Players i want to see out: Brocchi, Emerson, Cafu, Sergihno, Simic (not so much), Dida, Inzaghi, Ronaldo, Favalli,


Players proposed, Schmeihel, Occhoa, Amelia, Gomez, Akinveef, Daniel Alves, Torosidis, Van de Vaart, Rakitic, De Rossi, Fabregas (very difficult), Banega, Huntelaar (He is in a great shape), Benzema, Villa, Berbatov....

Do the same....
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Old 01-01-2008, 15:00   #10977

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Perhaps I will do the same another day, Giorgos! Take care.
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I dont see any reason why Milan never ttried for Van der Vaart. He is not as good as KAka' or Seedorf at his best, but is a young and great player that can play fast and in the wide positions, and that is what we are lacking in serie a. He can play in CL also. Getting him and Zambrotta in january would boost our squad significally, plus there will be Pato.

That is just a thought, aldough I think he is a Juve player now.
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Old 01-01-2008, 16:02   #10979

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forget the traitor please.
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Old 01-01-2008, 22:51   #10980

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lol we react too heavily with Shevchenko's whole betrayal situation.. Henry did the same to Arsenal and most fans still consider him a gunner forever for how well he served the team but they've moved on! We just call him a traitor because he left us in our weakness, where as Arsenal finds themselves in 1st place.
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