Winter Mercato

Originally Posted by thomas_h

at least, we must get zambrotta this month . . . a striker ( dream come true )
I hope Ronaldo can play 10-15 matches after this winter break

Zambrotta has been overdue in Milan since 2005! If we can use CAfu and Serginho till 37, means he has 6 more wonderful years at top flight football...

Forget young Alves or De Silvestry (spelled correctly?), just forget them...

We are HOPING for our star striker to PLAY 10-15 games? Not hoping that he scores, just hope that Ronaldo can play in a game... I don't know if I should laugh or cry...

Galliani must love House too much, I guess that explains signing players with all sorts of problems and trying to fix them... Dr. Galliani 'House'... Rivaldo, Vieri, Ronaldo, Emerson, Oliviera and of course most challenging case ever, Mr. Ba! Now that Dida has turned into a 'house' case, there's no way he's leaving...

Sorry guys if i'm starting to talk crap... I'm just frustrated as hell...

Originally Posted by prifess

i like daniel agger. he is also young and seen as a world class defender.

barzagli i agree with giovanni. he will be 1 of best DC in world IMO. he can learn alot.

kompany is also a world class defender in progress... you should watch that guy. (nowadays in HSV they put him at DMC position)

Agger is quality. Composed and can bring the ball out of defence well. Plus he's got a bit of a hammer in his boot too! I think he's only 23 or 24, has alot of potential.

I still think Zapata is the way to go. Zapata & Lucio would see us right i think.

What about Bosingwa for a rb possibility?

Originally Posted by prifess

idd a nice list, but I know more players he can get. but they are probably to young for him. he want +28YO.

+28YO is quite close, but +31YO hits the spot with Galliani!

Im standing 110% behind the statement than Vedran Corluka is 2 times better player than bothe bonera and Barzagli. The man has 21 year and plays as a CB, RB and even DM now for City! And its not just that, you need to look at the way he plays, ready the play, defends, passes and controls the space to realise this guy is something special.

if he was Italian or French he would cost 35 mln by now...

Originally Posted by mrki

Im standing 110% behind the statement than Vedran Corluka is 2 times better player than bothe bonera and Barzagli. The man has 21 year and plays as a CB, RB and even DM now for City! And its not just that, you need to look at the way he plays, ready the play, defends, passes and controls the space to realise this guy is something special.

if he was Italian or French he would cost 35 mln by now...

kompany of HSV can play on DR, DC , DMC position (even in attack due to his technical skills)
he will cost no more then 20 mio€ i think

Kompany is class. I'd take him or Zapata & recall Marzoratti for our central defence options.

Originally Posted by Tony29.

I don't doubt Bonera's qualities. I think he's a very good defender. But he's a long way to go to become a world class.
Being 4th choice defender for Milan should be a honour but if you're 4th choice in Milan for two years in a row and when your rivals aren't Baresi-25 yo Maldini but your rivals are 39 years old Maldini and Kakha Kaladze then it means that you're not developing as expected.


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Tony its extremly strange situation at Milan as its not easy to replace Maldini. Paolo is not just a defender who has 39 years, Maldini is something special, and even in that age he is a leader and played some superb matches in UCL for us.

And KAladze is, by my standards, way better player than bonera and actually an exceleny CB that is extremly underrated just becouse he is Georgian.

Originally Posted by prifess

kompany of HSV can play on DR, DC , DMC position (even in attack due to his technical skills)
he will cost no more then 20 mio€ i think

Kompany i haven't seen him, his ratings in FM are excellent, Agger is a very good defender but Liverpool will not leave him, i didn't see Barzaghli, Zapata. I have seen Corluca a little bit and he is excellent defender. Vidic, he is not old and he makes very good games... for Gio when we score against him out mid-attck could not be stopped....

Bonera's positioning is almost perfect. He's 25 yo. This guy can just dramatically improve. I don't see many as good defenders at the same age.

Barzagli: i disagree with Tony. It's just his opinion that Barzagli isn't good enough. IMO he's world class. And with a bit of experience he can turn to become another great italian defender.

I think the best schools for defenders are the italian and the argentinian. Which doesn't guarantee a top defender can't pop up elsewhere. But the general average lever is higher.

About Bonera he is a very good defender.... but not still capable for WC games... i can find equal Greek defenders....

Guyz

Bonera+ Barzagli= average defenders

The only reason people talk about them as WC is because they are Italian

Kaladze is better than both but even Kala is not WC


Pls can somebody help us clone Nesta??

Even f...ing Olympiakos Pireues signed Bellucci from River for 10 million euros, why Milan to give that amount of money.................!!!!!!!!!!.

Bonera is adecent defender, not WC. IMO Kaladze has shown himself to be. If Vidic & Ferdinand are, then so is Kala. We are set for central defence bar subs option. Other than Bonera we need another player, and maybe a youngster. We've been linked with an 18 year old Brazilian from International called Sidnei, cd. Anyone know anything about him?

Bonera, Barzagli, and Kaladze are all good players. They're definitely not world class.

Kaladze has become a top defender during 2006 season (at the age of 27 y o). Before that his defensive skills weren't impressive.
This proves that, having excellent basics, which Bonera and Barzagli undoubtely have, with a bit of experience and working hard a defender can become world class.
If Kaladze isn't world class, then who is? If Maldini is the standard there are no world class defenders in modern football...not even Nesta (which is a great but his career doesn't come close to Paolo's one)

I think Bonera and Barzagli will replace Cannavaro and Nesta and whoever is starter for Italy NT at major competitions (with some shameful exceptions) can be said a worldclass player, which plays on world stage at every top competition.

Cannavaro's defending was good but nothing close to his WC performances till his early 30's. Nesta is a class above, we know that, but when he was young he was miles behind the monuments of the italian football. Materazzi has developed his game after his 30's.

I think Bonera and Barzagli are good bets as world class players. Not now, maybe, but definitely for the future.