Winter Mercato

never mind ancelotti ... he is a doll saying what the directors tell him ... galliani is -i think- trying to sign many players but his fees aren't at all matching other teams requirements so he says these words to make us satisfied by one or two players ... can you believe that? ... man u the perfect team concerning players bought 2 players already ( anglian striker and an english midf???? ) and still look for bosingwa and berbatov ... this is the attitude of teams that wins leagues , cups and UCL ... if you guy want that team to win titles , we must get immediate replacements for the departing players like:
serginho-favalli...... zambrotta
cafu.................... serna/ bosingwa
dida.................... steklenberg/boruc/amelia
maldini................ canna/zapata/corluca
seedorf(summer).. deguzman/rosina/modric
ronaldo............... huntelaar/benzemma

we will pay 110 mil. euros (ronaldinhos fees) to get:
zammbrotta..................15mil.
serna/bosingwa.............15mil.
amelia.........................10mil.
corluca+canna..............30mil.
deguzzman/modric.........15mil.
huntelaar/benzemma......25mil.
then we will have a super dream team that wins all cups for 5 years

Originally Posted by hishamilan

we must get immediate replacements for the departing players like:

seedorf(summer).. deguzman/rosina/modric

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Originally Posted by hishamilan

we will pay 110 mil. euros (ronaldinhos fees) to get:
zammbrotta..................15mil.
serna/bosingwa.............15mil.
amelia.........................10mil.
corluca+canna..............30mil.
deguzzman/modric.........15mil.
huntelaar/benzemma......25mil.
then we will have a super dream team that wins all cups for 5 years

Zambrotta is almost ours.
Serna/Bosingwa/Amelia/Deguzzman/Canna & Huntelaar aren't required.

IMO we need Boruc/Frey & a decent sub kpr.
Zapata, Marzoratti, Zambrotta & Antonelli/Grimi added to def.
At least 2 creative midfielders Cignarini & Diego plus another destroyer - Kompany would be great.
Benezma/Berbatov, Di Gennaro/Pozzi, and one other forward - R10?

No static forwards, nobody over 30 bar Zambro, and an injection of pace & creativity, with a bit more muscle.

Out - Dida, Kalac, Fiori, Cafu, Serginho, Favalli, Simic, Paolo, Digao - Loan out, Darmian - Loan out, Ba, Emerson, Brocchi, Ronaldo. Inzaghi/Gila is a question mark.

So about 14 players gone, 2 main players, 5 subs, and the rest are underused or useless. Won't happen, but we need a revolution as we didn't evolve when we needed too.

You might say it'll cost too much, but we have Abbiati. Storari, and other players that can be sold for a decent price, and we have been saving for the last few years in the market IMO.

Originally Posted by hishamilan

we will pay 110 mil. euros (ronaldinhos fees) to get:
zammbrotta..................15mil.
serna/bosingwa.............15mil.
amelia.........................10mil.
corluca+canna..............30mil.
deguzzman/modric.........15mil.
huntelaar/benzemma......25mil.
then we will have a super dream team that wins all cups for 5 years

You said that before me,

I am United in Britain, 3 years ago i was anxious how the team would replace the team of Beckham, Giggs, Schmeihel, Gari Neville, Scholes, Stam,

Fergie started an excellent rebuldinding, at first they kept money to extend their stadiums capacity, They bought Ferdinand a leader in the defense, they were looking for his mate Vidic, Van der Saar brought experience and qualitu, they give Kioutsak games, RM, they discovered C.Ronaldo, kept their legend Giggs, bought Nani, a youngster ready to give a lot, they give time to their talent's O'Shey, Pique, Simpson, Brown (I like this gay), Evra one of the best LB ib the world, in the forwards they have the best English stiker Rooney, add the hot "Tevez" have the always valuable Shaha, in the wingers add also Park a good player in midfield Hardgreaves, Carrick, Scoles, Anderson, ready to give and they give opportunities to him. Now they will get Berbatov if they want and Bosigwa to help their wing backs. This is the organization of a big club , that Milan now doesn't have, i got frustrated with your opionion Gio and i wonder if i may start to want Milan to not qualify for next CL to rebuild our squand. The difference is that United doesn't have the heavy shirt of Milan otherwise would be # 1 for 3 competitions of England and for CL.

Juve made a proposal for Van De Vaart of 17 million euros find... the first source..

Originally Posted by Giorgos

You said that before me,

I am United in Britain, 3 years ago i was anxious how the team would replace the team of Beckham, Giggs, Schmeihel, Gari Neville, Scholes, Stam,

Fergie started an excellent rebuldinding, at first they kept money to extend their stadiums capacity, They bought Ferdinand a leader in the defense, they were looking for his mate Vidic, Van der Saar brought experience and qualitu, they give Kioutsak games, RM, they discovered C.Ronaldo, kept their legend Giggs, bought Nani, a youngster ready to give a lot, they give time to their talent's O'Shey, Pique, Simpson, Brown (I like this gay), Evra one of the best LB ib the world, in the forwards they have the best English stiker Rooney, add the hot "Tevez" have the always valuable Shaha, in the wingers add also Park a good player in midfield Hardgreaves, Carrick, Scoles, Anderson, ready to give and they give opportunities to him. Now they will get Berbatov if they want and Bosigwa to help their wing backs. This is the organization of a big club , that Milan now doesn't have, i got frustrated with your opionion Gio and i wonder if i may start to want Milan to not qualify for next CL to rebuild our squand. The difference is that United doesn't have the heavy shirt of Milan otherwise would be # 1 for 3 competitions of England and for CL.

I don't think we need to rebuild the team...we just need a few inserts on the flanks and a target man who can score against closed lower serie a teams.

Milan has won everything, United won it's last international throphy down in December 1999 (correct me if i'm wrong). I admire their way of managing a club, but our recipe has just proven to be more successful. They are a richer club, and still we are stronger than them (according to throphies won and the last seasons games, which are facts, and not lame opinions ).

I think we must insert a few additions, the first of them a top class keeper. Dida alone makes this side look so average...We need a couple of young wingers (Catania's Manuel Vargas ? )and a midfielder like Cigarini.
One striker upfront, and just wait for Pato (today i saw a video of Milan Channle, this guy has amazing first touch, ball control and scores goals for fun).

I don't share your overdramatic way of thinking, although i understand you. We don't need to be carried away with all this market crap. People loves market just for the sake of it. There are so many market neurotics around...it seems the only point to play football is to sign and buy players. Which is pointless IMO.

Originally Posted by Giorgos

they discovered C.Ronaldo, kept their legend Giggs,

Discovered and discovered. I saw the game where he singlehanded teared them apart in a friendly tournament playing for the sporting first team. They blew a couple of millions that have by now turned out to be an exellent investment, but he took two seasons of irregularity to really turn into the great player he is now.

Originally Posted by hishamilan

we will pay 110 mil. euros (ronaldinhos fees) to get:
zammbrotta..................15mil.
serna/bosingwa.............15mil.
amelia.........................10mil.
corluca+canna..............30mil.
deguzzman/modric.........15mil.
huntelaar/benzemma......25mil.
then we will have a super dream team that wins all cups for 5 years

I read that Lyon is not giving Benzema for less than 35m euros!


And by the way Valencia sign Banega for 18m euros.

Bye, bye Banega!

I know it's very interesting to talk about the mercato and it's actually one of the purposes of this forum, but it's all kind of useless to talk about it now since Milan's mercato will depend on :

1. Milan's success at the end of the season
A) Winning CL or qualifying for the final and the semi + winning one of the CL spots in Serie A is not the same as B) winning 5th place in serie A and being eliminated from Arsenal in CL

2. The Coach
Even though club directors do most of the transfers, i still believe the mercato will depend on who's going to be Milan's coach.
Will it be Ancelotti, will it be Mourinho or maybe Rijkaard ?
If it's Ancelotti then he'll probably want to keep 90% of the current squad and only add 2-3 new players.
If it's Mourinho then the profile of the new players may be different from the profile of the players Rijkaard would like to buy. Also, different players may leave the club if it's Ancelotti still a coach or if Mourinho is the new coach.
For some of them the priority will be to get Mascherano, Carvalho, Diarra, and for some of them the priority may be van der Vaart, Diego, Quaresma.
Some of them would like to keep lazy but creative Seedorf and some of them will like to sell Seedorf and replace him with a hard worker.

Originally Posted by Tony29.

I know it's very interesting to talk about the mercato and it's actually one of the purposes of this forum, but it's all kind of useless to talk about it now since Milan's mercato will depend on :

1. Milan's success at the end of the season
A) Winning CL or qualifying for the final and the semi + winning one of the CL spots in Serie A is not the same as B) winning 5th place in serie A and being eliminated from Arsenal in CL

2. The Coach
Even though club directors do most of the transfers, i still believe the mercato will depend on who's going to be Milan's coach.
Will it be Ancelotti, will it be Mourinho or maybe Rijkaard ?
If it's Ancelotti then he'll probably want to keep 90% of the current squad and only add 2-3 new players.
If it's Mourinho then the profile of the new players may be different from the profile of the players Rijkaard would like to buy. Also, different players may leave the club if it's Ancelotti still a coach or if Mourinho is the new coach.
For some of them the priority will be to get Mascherano, Carvalho, Diarra, and for some of them the priority may be van der Vaart, Diego, Quaresma.
Some of them would like to keep lazy but creative Seedorf and some of them will like to sell Seedorf and replace him with a hard worker.

Thats a very good post Tony.
I think we are not gonna make any winter transfers.It hink we gonna make transfers only on summer, and at that time i can see one of the possibilities that you had posted to come true.
And i would prefer the posibility of Mourinho coming to Milan.I think the team cant continiue with the same 90% of the current players.I think we need more new and freshed players.
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And happy new year Tony!

any news about di gennaro ?
how many times did he play for bologna ? goals ?

Originally Posted by Giorgos

Fergie started an excellent rebuldinding, at first they kept money to extend their stadiums capacity, They bought Ferdinand a leader in the defense, they were looking for his mate Vidic, Van der Saar brought experience and qualitu, they give Kioutsak games, RM, they discovered C.Ronaldo, kept their legend Giggs, bought Nani, a youngster ready to give a lot, they give time to their talent's O'Shey, Pique, Simpson, Brown (I like this gay), Evra one of the best LB ib the world, in the forwards they have the best English stiker Rooney, add the hot "Tevez" have the always valuable Shaha, in the wingers add also Park a good player in midfield Hardgreaves, Carrick, Scoles, Anderson, ready to give and they give opportunities to him. Now they will get Berbatov if they want and Bosigwa to help their wing backs.

Reading this I started to count how much money went for this transfers... in how many years? Ferdinand, VdS, CRonaldo, Rooney, Tevez, Nani, Anderson... Can someone do the math? Whats a problem in rebuilding if your managers splash the cash on tevez, nani and anderson in a blink, and they even have a spare for stadium upgrade?

As far as i see, milan doesnt have this kind of money... or they dont want to spend it.

Originally Posted by kris

Discovered and discovered. I saw the game where he singlehanded teared them apart in a friendly tournament playing for the sporting first team. They blew a couple of millions that have by now turned out to be an exellent investment, but he took two seasons of irregularity to really turn into the great player he is now.

This is the object Kris, we don't invest...

Why Gourcuff plays so little?

Digao is a Brazilian of 1.95 if you will not give him chanses loan him out...

This thread, and the posts herein never cease to amaze me....

According to my rules of the transfer..aka silly season...I will believe nothing until the player is unveiled at the press conference, either in a Milan kit, or not.

Speculation is always good, and makes for wonderful posts and threads...but at the end of the day, thats all it is.

Who will come in the Winter mercato? R10? Zambrotta? Or no one?

We have 20+ days to ponder, pontificate, pray, and curse.

No one, not even Berlusconi, knows what will transpire over the remaining days of il mercato.

R10 may just wake up tomorrow, and hand in a transfer request...or not!

I will just take one day at a time, and the speculative reports in the press...as just that..speculation, with no basis in fact.