Winter Mercato

Originally Posted by Kaka1899

Theres a full article in the new Milan shirts thread under Discussions

In what page?

page 27 post number 399. id give you the link but im on my psp so no copy and pasting

Originally Posted by Vadim

That last statement sums up our season, doesn't it, Tony?

BTW do you keep track of all those stats yourself?

Lol, i'm certainly not crazy enough to watch all the matches and count every intercepted pass or successful cross

There are many sites where you can find stats about serie A. For some categories i used this http://sports.alice.it/it/calcio/ser...ri/assist.html
for some i used Yahoo serie A stats in the calcio fantasy game

Originally Posted by kris

That we used just oneforward ni pretty much all games is the thing though. Kaka even play or less as a forward. He shouldn't really be counted as midfielder here.

That's true Kris.
However, in the context of the discussion i believe that at least 13/14 of Kaka's 18 shots on target were from outside the box or from penalty kicks and weren't a result of a successful cross.
You're right that we can count him as the second forward, though.
As for Siregar's point about the strikers not getting in many goal positions due to the inefficiency of the fullbacks and wingers (although you don't even play with wingers), Kaka's stats change nothing.

Originally Posted by Kaka1899

page 27 post number 399. id give you the link but im on my psp so no copy and pasting

Aha, I've got it. Thank you, mate!

Originally Posted by mrki

Juve: Criscito, Marchionni, Nocerino, Palladino, Paro, Giovinco, Chiellini, left back I can remember his name, and so on...there are few more.

Mrki please note that all these youngsters (apart from Giovinco and De Ceglie, the left back whose name you didn't know , and who were born in Turin or came through Juve's young categories ) were bought in Moggi's time and if Calciopoli never happened probably not more than one or two of them would have ever played for Juve. They were all part of Moggi's shady bussiness where he was loaning them to other clubs and getting 6 points in return
Plus, Marchionni is 27 and is far from being a youngster.

I know Juve do give chances to the youngsters but they are doing that because they were forced to do that. If you remember pre-calciopoli time, Juve rarely gave chances to the youngsters (Del Piero, Maresca, Miccolli...that's about it)

Originally Posted by Siregar

Aha, I've got it. Thank you, mate!

No Worries

Originally Posted by mrki

it was tuttomercato, but I dont know is that statemant still on. Why wouldnt he said it, its 100% true. None or our young players are world class.

Honestly, do you think someone with his class would come out and say something that's so negative to our youngsters? Even if he said something along those lines, I'm sure he didn't say that and his words were minced.

Any opinion why we've got less contract from Adidas per season than Inter have got from Nike (if this is true)? I read here that Inter have got 14 mil euros per season and Milan 10,5 euros.

Originally Posted by ACMILAN1983

Honestly, do you think someone with his class would come out and say something that's so negative to our youngsters? Even if he said something along those lines, I'm sure he didn't say that and his words were minced.

Why are you sure? becouse you know me and you are sure Im about to do that. Whatever man, Paolo said it.

No mrki, Paolo didnt say that.

Paolo said that our youth is not good compared to the other teams and we are paying the price for it now, but he didnt say anything about not having 9 world class players.

Paolo's exact words(give or take a bad translation or two):

"A job in the youth sector? It could be a fascinating adventure, even though I believe that for this type of job you need professional figures of great experience in this sector. I surely could give an input to all the lads who would get in contact with football, teaching them that it is not the objective the main goal of a lad who comes close to football. The experience in the youth sector could have hold great charm at Milan, because in fact it's been a long time that this club does not produce talents of a certain level born at home, and today more than ever, with the new international norms, this resource becomes indispensable.

http://www.acmilan.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=59294

In the italian transcript that I read on tuttomercato he mentioned, clearly, 9 players or ur sector playing abroad, with number 9 included, not like in this statemant... Im not lying, I have no reason people. There are two options, ac milan is managing to make damage smaller, or tuttomercato is making it bigger.

either way, those 9 players arent world class

paolo said that its has been a LONG TIME sice there was a youth players promoted to the first team.
and this is a lack of confidence and also a lack of expierence with youth players.
maldini want to do somthing about that so he want to be a youth coach.
hopefully we get in future some new paolo's etc...

Originally Posted by mrki

In the italian transcript that I read on tuttomercato he mentioned, clearly, 9 players or ur sector playing abroad, with number 9 included, not like in this statemant... Im not lying, I have no reason people. There are two options, ac milan is managing to make damage smaller, or tuttomercato is making it bigger.

either way, those 9 players arent world class

Funny that, as on the official site it doesn't mention that in the slightest (and I would rather take what the official site says than Tuttomercato). Here is what the Official site has:

Sul mio futuro dopo il calcio posso solo dire quello che non vorrò fare, ovvero l'allenatore, e non ci saranno possibilità di smentita in questo senso.
Un impiego nel settore giovanile? Potrebbe essere un'avventura affascinante anche se credo che per questa tipologia di impiego servano figure professionali di grandissima esperienza avviata nel settore. Io certamente potrei dare un input a tutti i ragazzi che si avvicinano al calcio, insegnando loro che non è l'obiettivo il fine principale di un ragazzo che si avvicina al calcio. L'esperienza nel settore giovanile avrebbe grande fascino al Milan perchè di fatto è da troppo tempo che questa società non sforna talenti di livello nati in casa, e oggi più che mai, con le nuove normative internazionali, questa risorsa diventa indispensabile.

La mia partita d'addio? Sì, l'ho già pensata. Si giocherà a Mosca...

Here he says that he believes the experience of older players could be beneficial for youngsters and it's been a long time since we produced a talent of a certain level in Milan (which is true, we haven't produced talents that can play regularly at Milan yet). He does not mention Inter or Juve, nor does he speak about the players who are currently out on loan.

I found a name, Andrea Dossena, in this news.

What kind of a midfielder is he actually in Parma?