Winter Mercato

i think atm its only a loan.. I dont know why we got him tho, hes no way been worth the money!



Milan: Ricardo Oliveira va via

09:18 del 22 gennaio

Per fare posto a Ronaldo, il Milan è pronto a valutare le offerte dalla Spagna per il prestito del brasiliano Ricardo Oliveira. Il Villareal è una possibilità, Ancelotti ne ha già parlato con il diretto interessato.

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That's good news , he never was "Milan-material".. Hope we can get a big part of the money back and not some loan-with-an-option-to-buy deal... A panic-transfer is all he was...

Yeah but with Oliveira gone (and I will be the first one to wave him out), Boriello suspended, Gillardino injured who are we going to put as strikers in every match, Pippo and Ronaldo? Or does baldie have another striker up his sleeve no one talked about yet?

there is Auba, and we can just play Pippo upfront on his own! i dont think Gilardino wil be out for long, at least i hope hes not!

To be objective as I cam I have to say that Oliveira played horrible football for us. He hasnt showed any finishing and his passing was...was there any passing?? Sell him for some money and buy Oddo and some young forward and we are fine.

ive heard another rumour, if Ambrosini is still injured and playing poorly, Massimo Donati could return to Milan..

Chievo's Paolo Sammarco also is owned by us, he is supposed to be promising also..

why we dont try to buy tevez?He wants to go from West Ham,he spends horrible time there.Even Sheringham is playing more than him!

Originally Posted by rosoneri_11

why we dont try to buy tevez?He wants to go from West Ham,he spends horrible time there.Even Sheringham is playing more than him!

Tevez (and Masherano) are not owned by West Ham or any club but by an agency called "MSI", it is not selling the players but merely "renting" them to clubs. There is more behind it, but let's say it's not healthy to work with them.

Maybe we have new transfer strategy: All players that want to join Milan should buy out their contracts and come to Milanello for medical. Of course, they need to be 30 years old and half injured, and even better if they ever played for Internazionale of Milano!That way Berlusconi doesnt need to spend any money and Galliani doesnt have to work hard as he does now...

So just let Moratti buy some good players now, we'll get them eventually...

Originally Posted by mrki

Maybe we have new transfer strategy: All players that want to join Milan should buy out their contracts and come to Milanello for medical. Of course, they need to be 30 years old and half injured, and even better if they ever played for Internazionale of Milano!That way Berlusconi doesnt need to spend any money and Galliani doesnt have to work hard as he does now...

So just let Moratti buy some good players now, we'll get them eventually...

Great post!Yes thats the reality! We cant buy world class palyers anymore,only rubbish from other teams!

Originally Posted by rosoneri_11

why we dont try to buy tevez?He wants to go from West Ham,he spends horrible time there.Even Sheringham is playing more than him!

FIFA rules stipulate that a player cannot be bought or sold more than once per football season...something like July thru to June of the next year...

Liverpool has been asking for special dispensation to sign Mascherano...but I dont know what the outcome will be, though I honestly doubt that FIFA will go back on its own rule...

And for all of those who continue to bemoan our transfer activity(or lack thereof)...why dont you become a player agent, or invest some millions to buy them?

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

And for all of those who continue to bemoan our transfer activity(or lack thereof)...why dont you become a player agent, or invest some millions to buy them?

Warro that is the most ridiculous argument I have heard for a long time!!
By your reasoning, we shouldn't complain when the government messes up on infrastructure...we should just hire engineers and ciontractors and build our own roads. We shouldn't carry back bad food at a restauraunt, we should just cook our own etc etc.
Milan management are supposed to be professionals and deliver a professional...and if to a layman the job they are doing is sub-standard then it must be pretty far from professional atm.
The truth is we bought a striker who has been good in a league with no defence (la liga brasilero) in Olivera.
We threw away a superstar (Crespo) bought a ONE dimensional striker in Gila, and we are expecting him to create his own goals.
We sold perhaps the best striker of the last three years in Sheva and to date have no replacement for him.
We lost Stam- one of the best and strongest defenders and haven't suitably replaced him as yet
We are being cheap to buy the only available superstriker currently available on the market- and even he is a wildcard
We just bought a guy whose own fans are glad to see go (Grimi)
We are having trouble to get Oddo who isn't that great to begin with


If this stuff doesn't bother you that's great...but it does bother many here

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

And for all of those who continue to bemoan our transfer activity(or lack thereof)...why dont you become a player agent, or invest some millions to buy them?

Yes why not i know some great talents,but it will not work with ancelotti as a coach.We bought the best young french talent Goucuff but he is not playing!
So whats the point!?!

Originally Posted by drucurl

Warro that is the most ridiculous argument I have heard for a long time!!
By your reasoning, we shouldn't complain when the government messes up on infrastructure...we should just hire engineers and ciontractors and build our own roads. We shouldn't carry back bad food at a restauraunt, we should just cook our own etc etc.
Milan management are supposed to be professionals and deliver a professional...and if to a layman the job they are doing is sub-standard then it must be pretty far from professional atm.
The truth is we bought a striker who has been good in a league with no defence (la liga brasilero) in Olivera.
We threw away a superstar (Crespo) bought a ONE dimensional striker in Gila, and we are expecting him to create his own goals.
We sold perhaps the best striker of the last three years in Sheva and to date have no replacement for him.
We lost Stam- one of the best and strongest defenders and haven't suitably replaced him as yet
We are being cheap to buy the only available superstriker currently available on the market- and even he is a wildcard
We just bought a guy whose own fans are glad to see go (Grimi)
We are having trouble to get Oddo who isn't that great to begin with


If this stuff doesn't bother you that's great...but it does bother many here

Well done mate!I agree with you 100%!!!!
And something else,i saw yesterday at Lazio-Milan Gourcuff warming up but he never get in the match!And our midfield was forrible,and then i saw Costacurta warming up and i began to laugh for 10 minutes!!!!!!!!!!!!
And i said to my self "THEY ARE JOKING US"!

Originally Posted by drucurl

Warro that is the most ridiculous argument I have heard for a long time!! By your reasoning, we shouldn't complain when the government messes up on infrastructure...we should just hire engineers and contractors and build our own roads. We shouldn't carry back bad food at a restauraunt, we should just cook our own etc etc.

Not at all drucurl...you are taking my reasoning, and running with it...big time.

Its like this: I come to this thread (more often than not because I got an email telling me about a new post) and find more of the same: We didnt buy so and so...we let so and so go...we should buy player x, we must sell player y, and get player z...and fine, this is a forum, but the unfortunate thing is that these posts are always accompanied by: Milan management sucks...Galliani is an idiot....Berlu isnt interested anymore...yadda yadda yadda

The crying, moaning and weeping wont make Berlu et al change their strategy....they wont care what you all are sobbing about...they have their plan, and they are sticking to it....so what will all this angst deliver? Nada. Nothing. They have their vision, and we could complain till the cows come home, it wont change.

Further, I find it rather disingenious of you to compare us, fans, with the tax-paying public...or am I mistaken and you are a season ticket holder (the closest we can become to being tax-payers)?

The fact that we own a few replica jerseys, or even go to a match ever so often, doesnt mean squat to the men spending the millions...so we have very little, or no voice. Milan is not a democracy...we cant vote Berlu out like Calderon or Bush. It doesnt work this way...sheesh!!

The reasons for our inactivity in this summers mercato are numerous, and have been mentioned here ad infinitum, so I wont bother even sumarizing them...we all know what they were. Forget them if u like, ignore them if u wish, but they had a big part, might I say the ultimate role in the determination of our aquisition strategy.

Milan also isnt going to spend over the barrel on any players...simple..Abramovitch has helped make the transfer market into an artificial aspect of what it truly is, and so player values have been overinflated for some time...

Its important, despite Berlu´s billions, to balance our books (and not via the Inter method), so the club can continue to function...so when we dont buy players, or we dont get the ones we prefer...sit down, and hug it up...or come here, and make post after post, saying the same thing, time and again...or go do something about it...like my initial recommendation.

Originally Posted by drucurl

Milan management are supposed to be professionals and deliver a professional (job)...and if to a layman the job they are doing is sub-standard then it must be pretty far from professional atm.
The truth is we bought a striker who has been good in a league with no defence (la liga brasilero) in Olivera.

Wont argue with you too much on this one, as Management do make mistakes, but let me ask you this: after he scored on his debut...were you this critical? Or did you, like most of us, hope it would continue? That his sister was been kidnapped shortly thereafter means nothing right? He should just continue on, like nothing has happened? Eh? Oh! Thought so.

Originally Posted by drucurl

We threw away a superstar (Crespo) bought a ONE dimensional striker in Gila, and we are expecting him to create his own goals.
We sold perhaps the best striker of the last three years in Sheva and to date have no replacement for him.

Replacing Sheva doesnt come just like that...We gave Crespo back to Chelsea, as they would have wanted for him to be a "make weight" in the Sheva deal...and Crespo for Sheva and some money may not have been the best option for us...

Originally Posted by drucurl

We lost Stam- one of the best and strongest defenders and haven't suitably replaced him as yet

Did you watch Bonera vs Lazio? You couldnt have...he was our best player by far on the pitch..making Maldini look "normal" with his timely tackles, and interceptions...Stam who?

Originally Posted by drucurl

We are being cheap to buy the only available superstriker currently available on the market- and even he is a wildcard

There must be another drucurl on this site...this couldnt be the same poster I read a few days ago in this very thread re Ronaldo......plus, who knows what il phenomeno will do when he turns out in a red and black kit...could be another Rivaldo...or it could be another Crespo...who knows? I dont, and neither do you....So welcome Ronaldo if you do come, and good luck!

Importantly, you mentioned, in my mind, the ultimate determining factor: "Availability"...who is available, and proven to be world class, in the striking department at the moment? Name 3 players, their clubs, and their price tags please, if u dont mind.

Originally Posted by drucurl

We just bought a guy whose own fans are glad to see go (Grimi)

Yup, and these fans, are all experts right? He is how young? 21? Does he have time to improve with all the great teachers he will have, from Cafu to Maldini? Ahh...yeah...hasnt played one real game for us yet, but: waste of a HUGE investment...stupid Milan management!!

Originally Posted by drucurl

We are having trouble to get Oddo who isn't that great to begin with

Lets see...1. Oddo is Italian (important since all the Non-EU places are taken), 2. is on the national team...which implies he is one of the best in his position in Italy...3. captain of Lazio (another team with no-body, no talent, and that just held us to a draw)..nahh...he is worthless...another example of Milan´s stingyness and carelessness.

Originally Posted by drucurl

If this stuff doesn't bother you that's great...but it does bother many here

I cannot say that I am not bothered by our inactivity, and/or our targets...but as I have said before...I will make mention of it, but not ad infinitum like many here do...how many times can you sit (or stand) and type the same thing, without feeling a little crazy?

Do you know what one of the definitions of insanity is: Doing something over and over, the same way, and expecting a different outcome, when there is only one possible outcome...now if this doesnt sound like some posters here...then I will change my name to Fantan.

I for one, wont spend my time berating the management of the club that I chose to support...I wont spend my time bemoaning the fact that we didnt buy so and so, or that we did buy so and so...I may write once or twice about it, but not 50 times in a month...or a day, depending on the poster.