Winter Mercato

Yes...ok you are right about that but tell me this...is berlu creating a champions team or averige team?because all i can see Milan is interested in 3 players Oddo,Ronaldo and Pato, while Juve is interested in Gerrard,Mascherano,and 5-6 other players, and Inter is interested in Riquelme,Lampard,Messi...???
I think it is time for berlu to spend money on big transfers or else...we will be building a new team in the next 5-6 yrs.and till than we will be average team, and it is a question if we can mesure with Juve and Inter even then.
Thats my opinion...maybe i`am wrong but i dont think so

I can bet tah Juve and Inter will not buy those players.

Originally Posted by King tiger

I can bet tah Juve and Inter will not buy those players.

thiers always a chance matey ...

But what if we buy Ronaldinho

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

And if you still have a bee in your bonnet after all this, then feel free to start a internet petition to have Berlu sell the club (as some of you have suggested) to a wealthy Arab, or Russian oligarch....or accept our transfer and team situation as they are, with far fewer complaints...or simply find another club (Chelsea or Inter anyone?) to support....or last but not least...there is FIFA 07 (manager mode), and that other Management game for the PC....create your own Milan why dont you?

Football Manager \o/ (I guess)..I bought Quaresma and Nani on the game 4-5-1 works with them

But back to Real Life: Are we signing or not Ronaldo? And while I was watching Lazio - Milan a Brazilian narrator said that the negotiations with Pato were going well and Milan were on the verge to sign the youngster (who imo is definitely a good prospect, from the little I've seen him like his debut for Internacional, the games on the World Club Championship and Brazil u20)..is this true at all?

Zvonimir...just because they are interested in those players it doesn't mean they have more hopes and will be better.
Being interested in a player doesn't mean anything. Empoli can be interested in famous players as well.......so does that mean that they have bigger hopes for the future? No!

If you look at it that way Milan is interested in 'Dinho and we were interested in Eto'o this summer together with Henry. Did we sign any of them? No. So it is not who you are interested in but who you actually get. Milan always gets strong players and great champions. This past year was different but there were a lot of reasons for that!

Originally Posted by nefremo

Zvonimir...just because they are interested in those players it doesn't mean they have more hopes and will be better.
Being interested in a player doesn't mean anything. Empoli can be interested in famous players as well.......so does that mean that they have bigger hopes for the future? No!

If you look at it that way Milan is interested in 'Dinho and we were interested in Eto'o this summer together with Henry. Did we sign any of them? No. So it is not who you are interested in but who you actually get. Milan always gets strong players and great champions. This past year was different but there were a lot of reasons for that!

You are right nefremo...but WE DIDNT....WE..not Inter not Juve...we didnt get the players that we where interested.Remmeber...inter bought Vieira...Maxwell...Maicon...Ibra...Crespo...Grosso...what else do they need for this season?I dont think they need something more...

You are right. Inter did buy all those players and for the FIRST time in a LONG time the excessive change of personnel worked out for them. Actually it worked out because of the failure of the others (Milan, Juve) and not exactly because of their brilliancy on the market.

Warro and Tony....you guys are completely misinterpreting my comments and are unfairly employing emotional rhetoric to get the masses to support you
as I repeat...I never criticized Berlu...that's insane i agree. However am critical of or recent transfer decisions and as an red blooded fan I am entitled to do so.

Is it fair to criticize a loving and devoted father who for years nurtured and supported you, but because now he picked up a hot new gf has run off with her leaving you and mom to fight it out on your own?? He may have been the best father ever, but this most recent action changes things drastically I'm sure you'll agree.

This is not to cast aspersions on Berlu's charrracter...it merely t illustrate the point that regardless of the phenomenal contributions he has made to the legend of Milan, he is human and fallible like all of us and either he or his subordinates are prone to error.

As to his influence over our recent transfers...I'd say they were only on a superficial level, as Berlu has bigger fish to fry....like Proddi . I'm not sure he is the brains behind our transfer decisions amymore, esp if comparison with the calibre of previous transfers are anything to go by.

Tony 29....I find it insulting that you are equating berlu's greatness with Milan the club. If you deny it I will quote your post

Finally to Warro, I am quite sure that we intended to make super transfers this season which may not have materialized. However as Katie Holmes told a young Bruce Wayne....its what you do that defines who you are

All ofthese discussions somehow go to some personal level, and that is not the gold in here.

People, go to youtube and search for sudamerican U-20 championship, and find Brazil games. There are only highlights, but from what I've seen in there from Pato....WOW! This guy is 17 years old, and heads, shoots the free kicks, dribbles, shoots from outside....all of it. Brilliant. I know its just highlights and I cant see his movement or passing rate, but the touch is definitly there. He scored a super backheel goal like Del Piero in CL final against Borussia D. if you remember...

This is a player for the future, not Ronaldo.

Originally Posted by mrki

This is a player for the future, not Ronaldo.

maybe, and maybe not...

every season we see 20 new "maradonas" from south america and only one or two really makes it big, the rest of them just remain "talents for the future"

you really want to give 25 mills for a non-EU "maybe" player?

Well that is why we have top class scouts to scout him during the year and decide where he is or he is not potential Shevchenko. I only said I like what I've seen untill now.

Nothing happened with " No contacts with Real" statements.
Looks like it has to be done between Milan and Real, and not Ronaldo-Real.
Galliani is negotiating the Ronaldo deal with Baldini !
http://www.channel4.com/sport/footba...ia/jan24f.html

Originally Posted by mrki

Well that is why we have top class scouts to scout him during the year and decide where he is or he is not potential Shevchenko. I only said I like what I've seen untill now.

and Milan have obviously liked what they saw too and that's why they made that offer but right now Internacional are trying to take full advantage of the moment and asking for simply insane sums of 20-25 mil euros for a player who is yet to consisitently prove himself over time.

I have also watched the highlights, in fact I watched a couple of those games in question and have to say that he is indeed one of the most intriguing prospects out there but even then there is only so much you could ask for a player with his very limited experience and Internacional aren't doing that at least for now.

We'll see what happens in the end but one thing's sure - Milan are interested in him and will hardly just leave at that. Either way, however, Pato at 17 yo is a solution for the future, while Milan needs one for the present and that's why they are after Ronaldo.

I do agree. A question Zlatanov - where did you watch the games?? Im trying to find some live matches fom that tournament! Its always interesting to see young players from Brazil playing.