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YOu talk about achievements, what have or had Beckham achieved?
He played on a winning team all his life. ManU, that cannot prove anything. I know that he had won a lot of silverware with ManU, but he did not made ManU strong. THat is important. A true star help their team to be stronger, like Baggio, he has no one in Brecisca, but Brescia got to stay in Series A b/c of him. Rui Costa and Battigol together helped Fio to be one of the better team in Italy. Maradona singlehandedly made football history with Argentina and Napoli. Can you say that about Beckham?? I don't think so. Sheva helped Kiev to be the top of their leagues and advance to the latter stage of CL by himself. Rivaldo saved Barcelona butt time after time when the past few seasons. Even Totti saves his team Roma from destruction this season. Can you say that about Beckham? The person who saves ManU time after time is no other than Giggs and sometime Keane not Backham. Sure you can say that Beckham's free kicks save ManU all the time, but you have to first ask yourself, who got him those free kicks? Thats about what I have to say. |
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YOu talk about achievements, what have or had Beckham achieved?
He played on a winning team all his life. ManU, that cannot prove anything. I know that he had won a lot of silverware with ManU, but he did not made ManU strong. THat is important. A true star help their team to be stronger, like Baggio, he has no one in Brecisca, but Brescia got to stay in Series A b/c of him. Rui Costa and Battigol together helped Fio to be one of the better team in Italy. Maradona singlehandedly made football history with Argentina and Napoli. Can you say that about Beckham?? I don't think so. Sheva helped Kiev to be the top of their leagues and advance to the latter stage of CL by himself. Rivaldo saved Barcelona butt time after time when the past few seasons. Even Totti saves his team Roma from destruction this season. Can you say that about Beckham? The person who saves ManU time after time is no other than Giggs and sometime Keane not Backham. Sure you can say that Beckham's free kicks save ManU all the time, but you have to first ask yourself, who got him those free kicks? Thats about what I have to say. |
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Join Date: 11 2002
Fave Players: maldini, shevchenko, redondo
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Van der Vaart
i strongly suggest that we have to sign this player from ajax. he is amazing and from what i have seen he is a similar kind of player to that of aimar. we have had a strong dutch tradition for the past 10 years or so... the dutch players which we have signed were all succesful and im sure he will be another success story if we could sign him
he is quick and very mobile, similar to aimar of valencia and emre of inter, he assists well and even scores goals... if we need someone to add more flair in the game, we have to get him before other top clubs do... i really dont want to see him go to inter or juventus or any other italian club |
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Join Date: 08 2002
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![]() ![]() ![]() Back to the topic, I never seen Van Der Vaart play. But I have heard great things of him.. Must be a great player...
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Join Date: 11 2002
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not referring to kluiver bogarde and davids mate, i was referring to van basten,frank rinkjard and gullit and even seedorf now
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sorry pal, but you wrote that:
"the dutch players which we have signed were ALL succesful..." ALL is all for me... next time try to mention names first and not only "all"! ![]() by the way: he is a great player, but I don't think Milan needs him. Last edited by Demi; 11-12-2002 at 11:42. |
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![]() And surely VanderVaart is a great player. His left foot is simply terrific. His skills are amazing. But it's too soon to compare him with Aimar He's still young and has to mature, and we don't know yet how he can cope with the pressure of a big league, as defense in the Dutch competition ain't pretty strong :p Another problem is his fitness :s He has been injured a lot lately. I hope it's not a muscular problem ![]() |
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Join Date: 11 1999
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Yes, He will be a great star to come but currently, we are overloaded in the midfield and it will not make nay sense if we buy Van Der Vart for a high price but benched him...
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I don't see why Milan need someone like Vander Vaart for now, maybe in 2-3 years, when Serginho, Rui Costa and Rivaldo retire or leave, then there will be room for Vander Vaart. However, even then, Gattuso, Ambro, Donati, Pirlo, Seedolf, Brocchi, Sam Dalla Bona will all be at their prime.
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Join Date: 08 2002
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Fave Players: Sheva, Maldini, Kaka, Nesta, Zidane & Kewell
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if vandervaart was bought, he wouldn't be benched
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Ahmet Hossam...
hey guys what do you think about Ahmet Hossam or Mido. is he capable of playing here.
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Join Date: 08 2002
Location: Belgium
Fave Players: The one and only Paolo Maldini
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He's a good player I know him very good since he played in Gent.He was good in Gent but not that good I don't even think he was the best player in the league so I don't think he would be good enough for milan.If you want to buy a young great attacker then buy Ibrahimovic(Zlatan) He's much better
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Join Date: 08 2002
Location: Belgium
Fave Players: The one and only Paolo Maldini
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You all are saying you can't compare him with aimar,well you're right because he's allready now better than aimar to me
If you would watch the dutch league every weekend like I do than you would say this too he's just a wonderfull player! BTW LET US BUY THE WHOLE AJAX TEAM(ZLATAN MIDO VAN DER VAART CHIVU BOUKHARI DE JONG PIENAAR THE'RE ALL GREAT ESPECIALLY ZLATAN CHIVU AND VAN DER VAART |
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Join Date: 11 2002
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i know that dutch league's standard is not good, but ajax team is class of its own, they almost beat valencia in spain and they won roma deservedly.... so what i am trying to say is that van der vaart can adapt to any league in the world.
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Join Date: 09 2001
Location: Holland
Fave Players: Nesta, vd Vaart, Sheva, Sneijder
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*edited* in reply to gavins statement about beckham *edited*
1. Almost all those playes you mention here are strikers. Ofcourse more attention goes out to the strikers cuz they have to produce the goals. Comparing a midfielder with a striker makes no sence. It's about wether or not Beckham is a world start player at his position. 2. A sucky player doesn't last as long at a big club like man utd like beckham does. If you want to talk about average or bad players at man utd think about barthez, neville, silvestre, frolan, etc., etc. 3. "Who got him the free kicks?". You will always get freekicks. If you're lucky you got a player in your team who can produce goals out of those freekicks. 4. Some facts: Look at the % of completed passes. FA PREMIERSHIP 00/01 01/02 Minutes played 2650 2127 Goals Inside Box 2 6 Goals Outside Box 7 5 Total Shots From Inside Box 8 19 Total Shots From Outside Box 50 51 Shooting Accuracy % 55 46 Goals/Shots % 16 16 Minutes Per Goal Scored 294 193 Goal Assists 12 8 Short Passes 1363 1034 Long Passes 718 500 Pass Completion Opposition Half% 73 71 Pass Completion Own Half % 89 88 Crosses to Own Player 107 78 Crosses to Opposition Player 246 170 Crosses Completion % 30 31 Tackles Attempted 31 44 Tackle Success % 68 57 Blocks 8 5 Interceptions 5 7 Fouls Conceded 31 32 Fouls Won 51 32 Offsides 8 12 Yellow Cards 3 6 Red Cards 0 0 INDEX SCORE 1323 1419 Honors: 1991 - Signs as trainee for Manchester United 1992 - Wins FA Youth Cup 1992 - Makes senior team debut with Manchester Utd in Coca Cola Cup 1993 - Signs as professional for Manchester United 1995 - Plays five games on loan to Preston North End 1995 - Makes league debut for Manchester Utd against Leeds 1996 - Manchester Utd win FA Premiership 1996 - Manchester Utd win FA Cup 1996 - Makes International debut for England against Moldova Player of the Month - August 1996 Sky Sports/Panasonic Young Player award Sky Sports/Panasonic Fans' Footballer award 1997 - Manchester Utd win FA Charity Shield 1997 - Manchester Utd win FA Premiership PFA Young Player of the Year Sir Matt Busby Player of the Year 1999 - Manchester Utd win FA Premiership 1999 - Manchester Utd win FA Cup 1999 - Manchester Utd win UEFA Champions League UEFA Most Valuable Player UEFA Best Midfielder 2000 - Manchester United win FA Premiership 2000 - Appointed England national team captain Voted second in World and European Player of the Year awards 2001 - Manchester United win FA Premiership Voted Sportsman of the Year by Sports Writers Association Voted BBC Sports Personality of the Year Voted second in FIFA World Player of the Year I'm not talking about off-pitch behaviour or performance. The guy is dumb but his footballskills are unquestionable. Last edited by youssof; 12-12-2002 at 08:43. |
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