Winter Mercato

Originally Posted by zlatanov

My personal favourite would be Di Natale - class player who can both create and score, can play as second forward and even attacking mifielder, 28-29 yo, eligible for CL. Only problem would be availability but if Udinese can get Di Michele or someone else, things could become easier.

I doubt Udine will go after Di Michele again after the way he left them, and after he has shown how big troublemaker he is. Everytime some attacker was connected with a move to Palermo, Di Michele was moaning, threatening to leave the team, and he was, imo, deliberetely playing awful, ruining every single action Palermo created.
It will be a stupid move if Milan signs a 31 years old troublemaker like Di Michele. He won't accept being a 4th choice striker and he'll create even more problems.

Di Natale is very good, can't agree more with Zlatan, but he may be hard to get in 2 days only. Won't leave too much time to Udinese to substitute their best player this season.

But i must say i'm really suprised why did Milan accept Real's conditions and agreed to give them Oliveira, even if it's just a loan deal.

I will support Oli as long as he is a Milan player. We have had a lot of patience in his case and he hasn't done what he was expected to do. May be its something beyond his control too but why should we jeopardize our chances of winning something by having him in the final roster. If Cappello is asking for him in exchange for Ronaldo, I wouldn't mind. But I would prefer having Ronaldo + cash (2/3 MN Euros) for Oliviera.

The options Gazzetta is giving as Oli's substitutes are Bojinov and Caracciolo. I have no idea about Carraciolo. There is no doubt about Bojinov's future. He will become a great player but I am not so sure if he has the maturity and experience to play in the CL. If the sole reason for bringing Bojinov to Milan is to play in the CL, then I would rather go for Aubameyang. We would save money and its not really like we have to buy someone from outside to replace another player.

Originally Posted by zlatanov

buuuuuuuut ... without an EU passport

I don't understand the regulations good, but if a non-EU player leaves the team, can't you substitute him with another non-EU ?

Originally Posted by Tony29.

But i must say i'm really suprised why did Milan accept Real's conditions and agreed to give them Oliveira, even if it's just a loan deal.

actually, I think that with Ronaldo coming to Milan, it would be best for Oliveira to be loaned out, provided that Milan finds another forward eligible for CL.
My point is that with Gila, Pippo, and Ronnie around, Oliveira, who's been strugling to rediscover himself for one reason or another, would find even fewer oppotunities to play and find his touch.

If I have a problem with loaning him out to Real, it's because I doubt he would find many chances to play over there either - they still have RVN, Robinho, Raul, Higuain and even Reyes can play up front ... so quite frankly, I don't see Capelo giving Oliveira much space to rediscover his form.

Also, I hope it's just a loan deal 'cause I would want to see Milan be more patient with RO and give him another shot at showing what he really is capable of.

Originally Posted by Tony29.

I don't understand the regulations good, but if a non-EU player leaves the team, can't you substitute him with another non-EU ?

no you cant... you can only buy 1 non eu player a seasen..

Originally Posted by Tony29.

I don't understand the regulations good, but if a non-EU player leaves the team, can't you substitute him with another non-EU ?

that's what I thought too but i guess I was wrong - no matter how the number of non-EU players change in a serie A team, that team can bring only 1 non-EU player to Italy (Serie A) per season ... this doesn't count for non-EU players who are already playing for another team in Serie A.

14.30 Milan e Real Madrid avrebbero trovato l'accordo sulla clausola di solidarietà. Le due società ne pagherebbero il 50 percento a testa. Intanto Ancelotti in conferenza stampa sulla possibilità di cessione di Oliveira al Madrid ha chiarito ''E' e resterà un giocatore del Milan''.

Form calciomercato . com can someone translate.

Originally Posted by zlatanov

actually, I think that with Ronaldo coming to Milan, it would be best for Oliveira to be loaned out, provided that Milan finds another forward eligible for CL.
My point is that with Gila, Pippo, and Ronnie around, Oliveira, who's been strugling to discuver himself for one reason or another, would find even fewer oppotunities to play and find his touch.

If I have a problem with loaning him out to Real, it's because I doubt he would find many chances to play over there either - they still have RVN, Robinho, Raul, Higuain and even Reyes can play up front ... so quite frankly, I don't see Capelo giving Oliveira much space to rediscover his form.

Also, I hope it's just a loan deal 'cause I would want to see Milan be more patient with RO and give him another shot at showing what he really is capable of.

i also dont understand why real needs another attacker... Van nistelrooy, robinho, raul, reyes, higuain and they still have cassano... 6 attackers.. we only have 3 at the moment.

oliveira wont leave, we will just buy ronaldo. and thats good IMO, becouse we need him for the CL and i believe oliveira is a very good player, at least he was at betis. he's only here for 6 months so, he can improve.

Originally Posted by King tiger

Form calciomercato . com can someone translate.

oliveira stays

14,30 Milan and Real Madrid would have found the agreement on the solidarity clause. The two societies of it would pay the 50 percento to head. While Ancelotti in press conference on the possibility of cession of Oliveira to the Madrid has cleared ' ' E' and will remain a player of the Milan'

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Originally Posted by Filipéz 182

no you cant... you can only buy 1 non eu player a seasen..

Aha, Thank you !

Originally Posted by Filipéz 182

oliveira stays

Did Carlo mean Oli is staying at Milan or he ment Oli will remain Milan's player and only go on loan to Madrid ?

Originally Posted by King tiger

Form calciomercato . com can someone translate.

the text is kind of short i.e. ommitting extra info, so a literal translation wouldn't make much sense.
What it says, I believe is that Real and Milan have agree to meet in the middle - there was a dif of 1-1.5 mil euros between demand and offer - which means that Milan has upped their offer by ~.5 mil and Real has lowered their demands by the same amount ... at least that's how I understand this.
Also, Ancelotti has clarified at a press conference that Oliveira is and will be a Milan player.

Originally Posted by Tony29.

Did Carlo mean Oli is staying at Milan or he ment Oli will remain Milan's player and only go on loan to Madrid ?

I think he meant Oli remains at Milan.

true oliveira remains a milan player. it wouldve been a stupid deal for both teams, we need him for CL and real doesnt need him. now galliani, make the ronaldo transfer official!!