Banter 2009/2010

Just thinking. How many of you think we could draw or beat Inter now in the form we are in?

The thing is that, when against Inter, I actually believe the team played their hearts out but it just happened that Inter's main strength-Maicon is against Milan's biggest weak spot-LB.

Originally Posted by hitmannq8

a few people mentioned the dzeko-huntelaar swap rumour (which will definitely not happen in january) and some are mentioning krasic... keep in mind that all these 3 players are now cup-tied and cannot play in the CL for another team.. however we could take Rafinha from Schalke as he plays in the UEFA cup.


is anyone else worried that milan is hitting form a bit too early in the season? for some reason I feel we are going to go through a slump of terrible form when it counts the most - february/march.

Hitman that does not matter, we have a new coach new tactics new training methods. its no longer a Gym training and tactical trainings, even we are more motivated than before they know they will warm the bench if they don't play good, so that alone should keep the players form.

from keepers to attackers, they should work for their starting spot. and today leonardo was clear about it. abbiati is good but did is on form

regarding krasic i read on the arabic milan forum that galliani is doing something in order to get a work permit for krasic in january, i dont understand it but maybe something is going on with this transfer

Right now there is CSKA - Rubin, live on tv. So I will be scouting Krasic 2nd half is now to start. For now Im once again impressed by the obvious class of Dzagoev, aldough he hasnt actually palyed anything abnormally good. Dzagoev plays behing the CF, like Kaka' did with Pippo. Krasic plays strictly on the right side.

So far Dzagoev, in 45min, has ran 7km, while the fastest player according to the stats was Krasic.
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People, what do you think about this theory/plan:

If Leo does not trust Huntelaar and does not plan to play him, we might as well sell him and not wait for the "adaptation" ( that will not come if he doesnt play ).

If Milan is ready to invest in some CF that will create the future of the team, then NOW the best thing is just to patch up untill the summer. From all the players that seem to be within the reach I would loan/buy/something Van Nistelrooy without second thought. Absolute class, and now is fit again. He wants to play, WC is coming etc. And in MAdrid the stars that were payed need to play, plus Raul. He is 4th striker! Second option is Toni... For sure its better to have Nistelrooy then a CF that is not trusted by a coach and will not be used.

Originally Posted by mrki

Right now there is CSKA - Rubin, live on tv. So I will be scouting Krasic 2nd half is now to start. For now Im once again impressed by the obvious class of Dzagoev, aldough he hasnt actually palyed anything abnormally good. Dzagoev plays behing the CF, like Kaka' did with Pippo. Krasic plays strictly on the right side.

So far Dzagoev, in 45min, has ran 7km, while the fastest player according to the stats was Krasic.
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People, what do you think about this theory/plan:

If Leo does not trust Huntelaar and does not plan to play him, we might as well sell him and not wait for the "adaptation" ( that will not come if he doesnt play ).

If Milan is ready to invest in some CF that will create the future of the team, then NOW the best thing is just to patch up untill the summer. From all the players that seem to be within the reach I would loan/buy/something Van Nistelrooy without second thought. Absolute class, and now is fit again. He wants to play, WC is coming etc. And in MAdrid the stars that were payed need to play, plus Raul. He is 4th striker! Second option is Toni... For sure its better to have Nistelrooy then a CF that is not trusted by a coach and will not be used.

Mrki RVN is Lethal indeed but luca Toni is a huge man upfrond, we are going to have becks for sure so luca toni will at least scored 12 header. but i dont think milan are willing to pay huge salaries. To offload Huntelaar is a huge madness. this guy can score blind folded. i think leonardo wanna give Huntelaar a chance, but until our performance is stable and our standing is a bit safer he will stick to Borriello. this guy just need to adapt, we will wait and see.

This Krasic rumor is just a rumor his agent denies his transfer to milan since milan already signed adiyiah, but this means there are talks, his agent wont address milan directly as a transfer target unless something solid was going on.

We should get Kun Aguero or Zarrate to partner Pato, Kun scored two against Chelsea recently, it was the first time in the last 5 or so games that Chelsea conceded a goal, they have been winning by 4 to 5 goals every match, he also scored recently against Madrid. Him and Pato will be an unstoppable combo.

Originally Posted by bijon

We should get Kun Aguero or Zarrate to partner Pato, Kun scored two against Chelsea recently, it was the first time in the last 5 or so games that Chelsea conceded a goal, they have been winning by 4 to 5 goals every match, he also scored recently against Madrid. Him and Pato will be an unstoppable combo.

Aguero would cost at least 40 million Euros and I don't see us spending that kind of money.

Aguero would cost at least 40M, Zarate would probably cost around 20-25M.

If we had money, I would take Zarate because this guy has something that most of the others don't have.
Difficult to explain, but when you watch him, it looks like someone who is excellent at Fifa 20** is playing with Zarate to dribble everyone. And don't forget that he does that in Serie A ... just imagine what he could do in Spain for example.

He shoud leave Lazio sooner or later because this team is nowhere near his talent, but Lazio won't sell him cheaply and so, as a consequence, I think that it's just a dream to think about him in Milan nowadays.

Originally Posted by GeoTav

Aguero would cost at least 40M, Zarate would probably cost around 20-25M.

If we had money, I would take Zarate because this guy has something that most of the others don't have.
Difficult to explain, but when you watch him, it looks like someone who is excellent at Fifa 20** is playing with Zarate to dribble everyone. And don't forget that he does that in Serie A ... just imagine what he could do in Spain for example.

He shoud leave Lazio sooner or later because this team is nowhere near his talent, but Lazio won't sell him cheaply and so, as a consequence, I think that it's just a dream to think about him in Milan nowadays.

man, he is so much more than just dribbling, he has amazing shots and assists too.. he is one of the best strikers in the world and he's only 21 (22 maybe)...lazio bought him for 20m-23m. he will be sold for 30.

Originally Posted by hitmannq8

man, he is so much more than just dribbling, he has amazing shots and assists too.. he is one of the best strikers in the world and he's only 21 (22 maybe)...lazio bought him for 20m-23m. he will be sold for 30.

Of course, I don't say he can't shot or assist, it's just that the way he dribbles so easily is simply amazing.

A French player who was with him in Qatar and who now comments Europa League games on Canal Plus said that it was simply unbelievable how he changed between when he played in Qatar and now. He said that in Qatar, Zarate was unable to run more than 20 meters ... and now he is able to sprint from in front of his goal to the other goal with the ball !!
I say that just to add that this young player (he is 22) still improves a lot ...

I just finished watching the Inter - Roma game, good job to Roma for cutting Inter's lead by two points. But I wanted to highlight how this game really showed why I want Marco Motta at Milan.

He is a tireless runner, his crosses are accurate (his cross was the one for Roma's goal) and he even is able to really offer an attacking outlet on the overlap. He put Faty in a great space to have a free shot at goal, late in the game. He really shut down whoever came down his side.

The other players I'd like to have from Roma as Mexes and Menez. Mexes was an absolute rock for Roma, he shut down Milito and made up for the mistakes of his partner, Andreolli. Plus, Menez was a menace down the flanks, and I think he would be a great addition to us, though I question his consistency and his mindset.

The point is that Marco Motta really is a very consistent fullback who is equally adept at attacking and defending. He passes out of the back with really good skill and is a very intelligent player, he really showed maturity and class at the back for Roma.

Obviously, the chances of Menez or Mexes coming to Milan are extremely small, and I don't think I'd actually want Menez, even if he has played very well the last few times I've watched him. Mexes, on the other hand, is a very good defender, and I think he would do very well at Milan. However, the only realistic option that we could grab from Roma is Motta. He really impressed me today, and he might have made some mistakes, but the important thing was that he corrected them. He knew how to correct them, that is something that few players are able to do. I think that is what seperates a very good defender from an excellent one.

I think many times you'll see that there are good defenders there, take Lucio for instance. A very good defender, and he has the natural talent for it. However, if he makes a mistake, he does not usually know how to atone for it. Nesta, for example, can make mistakes, but knows how to push the runner and how to position himself, to ensure that he can rectify his mistake. Frankly, Motta really shows that sort of ability.

WHAT THE ****?I am watching the Lyon-Marseille game what a sick match,Marseille came back from behind and were 2-4 up,and Lyon managed to fight back to 5-4,i saw it through livescore and saw that it was 4-4 so i thought what?!I watched the 5-4 and now Marseille made 5-5 in the last minute!!!!!!

What a crazy match!

Originally Posted by mrki

Right now there is CSKA - Rubin, live on tv. So I will be scouting Krasic 2nd half is now to start. For now Im once again impressed by the obvious class of Dzagoev, aldough he hasnt actually palyed anything abnormally good. Dzagoev plays behing the CF, like Kaka' did with Pippo. Krasic plays strictly on the right side.

So far Dzagoev, in 45min, has ran 7km, while the fastest player according to the stats was Krasic.
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People, what do you think about this theory/plan:

If Leo does not trust Huntelaar and does not plan to play him, we might as well sell him and not wait for the "adaptation" ( that will not come if he doesnt play ).

If Milan is ready to invest in some CF that will create the future of the team, then NOW the best thing is just to patch up untill the summer. From all the players that seem to be within the reach I would loan/buy/something Van Nistelrooy without second thought. Absolute class, and now is fit again. He wants to play, WC is coming etc. And in MAdrid the stars that were payed need to play, plus Raul. He is 4th striker! Second option is Toni... For sure its better to have Nistelrooy then a CF that is not trusted by a coach and will not be used.

yea the huntelaar situation is a joke, ive seen milos twice in the uefa cl and i am very impressed, players like aguero, robinho all get injured often and i really doubt they'll be able to move so eazy in Serie A, krasic seems strong tactical and intelligent, hey mrki i have no idea but how many rounds are left in the russian premier league? im thinking about ordering a channel here in america to watch it, love it i get live game from russia at 1 - 3 am from eazily one of the most underated leagues in the world...

Originally Posted by GeoTav

Of course, I don't say he can't shot or assist, it's just that the way he dribbles so easily is simply amazing.

A French player who was with him in Qatar and who now comments Europa League games on Canal Plus said that it was simply unbelievable how he changed between when he played in Qatar and now. He said that in Qatar, Zarate was unable to run more than 20 meters ... and now he is able to sprint from in front of his goal to the other goal with the ball !!
I say that just to add that this young player (he is 22) still improves a lot ...

Yeh, Zarate is pretty amazing, but Lazio just bought him for 25'ish M euro's. And unless he decides that he wants out, then I don't see him leave for any less then 30-35 M. I don't think he'd be a bad partner for Pato, not at all, he could perhaps even play at the right so Pato could play CF... Anyways, just dreaming, pretty unlikely transfer at this point.

Another thing though, Adiyah is going to the African nations cup, so he'll be signed in the winter, and will first be available in March. Is it just me, or is it almost pointless to register him this season? He's not gonna offer much cover for Pato and Dinho, since he'll only be playing for two months this season. Loaning him out wouldn't be a poor deal if there were money to buy someone like, say Krasic or Rafinha.

Originally Posted by Samaldinho

I just finished watching the Inter - Roma game, good job to Roma for cutting Inter's lead by two points. But I wanted to highlight how this game really showed why I want Marco Motta at Milan.

He is a tireless runner, his crosses are accurate (his cross was the one for Roma's goal) and he even is able to really offer an attacking outlet on the overlap. He put Faty in a great space to have a free shot at goal, late in the game. He really shut down whoever came down his side.

The other players I'd like to have from Roma as Mexes and Menez. Mexes was an absolute rock for Roma, he shut down Milito and made up for the mistakes of his partner, Andreolli. Plus, Menez was a menace down the flanks, and I think he would be a great addition to us, though I question his consistency and his mindset.

The point is that Marco Motta really is a very consistent fullback who is equally adept at attacking and defending. He passes out of the back with really good skill and is a very intelligent player, he really showed maturity and class at the back for Roma.

Obviously, the chances of Menez or Mexes coming to Milan are extremely small, and I don't think I'd actually want Menez, even if he has played very well the last few times I've watched him. Mexes, on the other hand, is a very good defender, and I think he would do very well at Milan. However, the only realistic option that we could grab from Roma is Motta. He really impressed me today, and he might have made some mistakes, but the important thing was that he corrected them. He knew how to correct them, that is something that few players are able to do. I think that is what seperates a very good defender from an excellent one.

I think many times you'll see that there are good defenders there, take Lucio for instance. A very good defender, and he has the natural talent for it. However, if he makes a mistake, he does not usually know how to atone for it. Nesta, for example, can make mistakes, but knows how to push the runner and how to position himself, to ensure that he can rectify his mistake. Frankly, Motta really shows that sort of ability.

Watching the game with one eye (the other one being used to learn my courses because I have an exam tomorrow), I don't think Motta was that good, nor any Roma player. This team is a joke for now (when you know what they can do and see the names on paper) as they can't play football except 5 minutes here and there. Anyway, Inter is a joke too ...

So, Motta didn't impress me at all tonight.

Then, I would say the contrary of you: you would want Mexes over Ménez, I would prefer Ménez instead of Mexes in Milan ...

Ménez isn't used in his real position and he is still one of their best players in each game he plays (he is a kind of winger/strijer loving to go on sides and he is used in midfield in this Roma team). Used in his real position, he could really shine because he could have space. So in our current formation, Ménez would have his place, instead of Ronaldinho or Pato (if instead of Pato, it would be because we put Pato as our main striker => Edit for Chrsitian: same case that with Zarate, this player would allow to use Pato as our main striker too !!).