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Old 03-12-2005, 15:12   #121

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horrible game, sheva? wtf was up with him? i kno he scored four goals in the fenerbahce game but he couldnt finish that tap-in?? i think that jankulovski was the only player that played decent today... gila, gila, gila hes not the type of player milan needs right now, ive never seen him run with the ball, or do anything special, awhile back i began to undestand what type of player he is, and now im sayin that he needs to stop his stupid back to the net technique(crespo made effort to push forward and run) and take some shots... i hope we get 3 players in january, one for def. one for mid. one striker...
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Old 03-12-2005, 15:40   #122

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we played like crap today, and the only one to blame is the players. you cant blame a coach if the players dont come to play. nesta was awful, again! gila had another off day, again! and we couldn't control the midfield, again! i dont know about you guys, but i prefer to win the scudetto then the CL. it seems that everytime we have a game to play for CL, we put in a second string type of team. our concern should always be Scudetto first, then any other tournament. if things keep going the way they are, pretty soon juve will be wearing a third star on their shirts and we'll be stuck with only one for a very long time.

we need to win the scudetto this year!!
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Old 03-12-2005, 17:03   #123

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if ancelotti is sacked because he wins no titles it is more justifiable than del bosque was sacked even though madrid won CL! i am not sure who to blame, i think it has to be 50%-50% blame to ancelotti and players. if we are so inconsistent like this, we can forget about scudetto, we lost 2 games in the last 3 matches and almost lost vs lecce too! we MUST do anything to win CL this season!!!
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Old 03-12-2005, 17:21   #124

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Ancelotti might be at fault but is sacking him really the solution of our problem? For the moment I have decided not to blame any one, at least just yet
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Old 03-12-2005, 18:10   #125

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Well well, hard luck guys we lost.. I really felt bad we lost.. you see, this is why the Milan vs Lecce game I complained so much that if they won, they would forget all their mistakes... and this is exactly what happened

This game was NOT like the Viola game guys, this one was like the Lecce one, but more worse. Other than Gattuso, PIRLO, Jankulovski, Sheva putting really bad performances, we lacked so much character. We didnt seem to threaten after Sheva's chance that he missed from 2 yards with no goal keeper (not that we didnt want to, I meant we couldnt create anything). Pirlo's passes were terrible today, Gattuso was not the warrior we usually know.

I am very very curious to read what triniman has to say about this game. I want to know if you just think this game is another one of those slipups or offgames and that we were just unlucky.

In 2 consecutive games for our starting lineups (vs Lecce and Chievo) we lacked SO MUCH character after they equalised... we were very careless.. IMO this is a BIG huge cause for concern. We r finding problems trying to be consistent, trying to play the whole 90 minutes well, defending, and even creating chances. I really hope the team's motivation will not be down for the Schalke game. All I can hope for is for Juve to lose, but still, we shouldnt have lost this game. Ancelotti, again is the one to blame, for not having his players ready or for not selecting the correct starting lineup. Im not saying he should be sacked, but he really deserves to be slammed for having 2 games in a row like this (from Serie A).
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Old 03-12-2005, 18:38   #126

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I am dazed and confused... nothin can I say... it is so frustating...
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Old 03-12-2005, 20:43   #127

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I think this season has been appallingly prepared for and we're now suffering. Carleto needs to start shouldering some blame but look at the team and the transfers made. The defense is ancient, and poorly backed up. We have 5 proper first team choices 3 of them are over 34 and then we start covering them with players that wouldn't play for mid-table teams. The midfield, it's strong and balanced yeah, but it's stale. and we've known about the problems with Seedorf for 3 years now and yet nothing resembling a threat to his position has even been looked at. The attack, again this is an area that looks good on paper but really it's thin. Sheva is brilliant, but due to having 3 poachers in reserve he's always forced to play as the roaming 2nd striker. His best years have been when he's allowed to play as a far more out and out striker, again we have a lack of variety. We relied to heavily on our track record of revitilisation when signing Vieri and considering we already had Inzaghi he should have been written off as being too old.

We spent 8 million janku, and brought in vogel and Vieri. All players who carletto dosn't deem good enough to start, so effectively we changed nothing in a team that won nothing and already was feeling the years catching up on them. Every position is backed up by bad players or extremely old ones.

I can see us finishing 3rd or 4th as we will probably dip in form near the end of the season like we did last year when the number of games players over 30 has reached ridiculous levels.

so long scudetto, we are potentially further behind juve than man u are behind chelsea (if man u win their game in hand and juve win tomorrow) and bookies have stopped taking bets on chelsea winning the league because it seems inevitable. Serie A is practically over. Maybe if the viola can win tomorrow we still have hope but it's not likely, then we'll be left hoping juve miraculously become rubbish after having been ruthlessly brilliant and we become good after being pretty lacklustre in the last month or so.
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Old 03-12-2005, 22:51   #128

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we ought to lose against schalke and be out of the CL...

that would wake up the management.......

please...hope that schalke would thrash milan..maybe that would get us some new defenders who's willing to dig in..

i prefer having 11 avg but passionate players than 11 all-stars who cannot seem to win against mediocre opposition
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Old 03-12-2005, 23:08   #129

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whoa thats too harsh on the players, milan cant lose against shalke, we need to play with the fire that we had last year in the CL..(even tho crespo is gone) it seems like every player is thinking about the worldcup and not milan... wake up fucccerz lets play some football
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Old 04-12-2005, 01:46   #130

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We will beat Schakle and im convinced we will convincgly, but the problem is we need to do beat other times convincgly as well, teams such as Chievo and Lecce, as it is these teams that cost us the Serie A last year.
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Old 04-12-2005, 03:22   #131

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I never watch the match but i notice Nesta perfromance is declining.....
But for me the Winner of Serial A still can se decided now......We still have lots of games to go...
It started with beating Schakle....

Stand up Milan and show me wat you can do ...Forza MIlan
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Old 04-12-2005, 03:26   #132

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hah, Vieri got heading power but as slow as tortoise!
anyway you can say any assumpion as we lost! But the whole team is responisble for the lost, Shev a missed the easy chance, gila did nothing, Pirlo and Rino were invisible, Janku's pass was s**ked, and nth to say with the defend!
well you said it is the hell that why Pippo was brought on, but for me it is the hell that why he was not starting the match!Though he couldn't saved the team again but he made a gread chance after sub, jut the keeper of Cheivo did well to come out. Gila played a lot recently and Pippo also showed he was valued to earn a start last week. That's why I ways don't understand what was Ancelotti thinking!
I know Vieri hasn't been great for us so far, but looking at the match we played, I actually think he would have been useful, particularly in the second half. He is a box player, big and muscular, with strong headers. When we were pumping the ball into Chievo's box in the second half, there's a good chance that he could have gotten a few finishes on goal, or created opportunities for others by heading the ball onto them. That is more than I can say for Sheva/Gila/Pippo.
Anyway, I actually thought Janku played a good game, except for a few bad passes (but even Pirlo had a lot of those). We wanted a good challenger for Seedorf's position, and there he is. The problem is that he doesn't get to play enough to gel with the team.

So where do we go from here? There needs to be major changes in the squad, I think. We have a team full of stars, but to win the league you need players who can put in consistent performances every weekend. They don't have to be briliant, they just have to do their job. I actually wouldn't want to lose any of our regular midfielders, but we need players who can challenge for their positions. Why we're not going for Ballack is beyond me. We also need new defenders, but if the rumors are true, we are going to make some new signings in the summer.
But above all, we need a new coach. Carlo has done a good job for us, but it's obvious that it's not working out anymore.

I think the problems we are having this season can be blamed on how we finished the last one: We were in a great position to win both the league and the Champions Leauge, but missed out on both. The players did all they could, but it wasn't good enough. After this happened, the management should have made major changes in the squad. We already knew that some of the players were struggling with their motivation after the end of the season, so why not bring some fresh blood into our ranks?
Sheva said in an interview a while ago that Milan are still feeeling the effects of Istanbul, and I think he was spot on.
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I'm for sacking Carlo. Not because he's done a bad job (not that he's done great this year either), but I think it's time for fresh ideas.

Along with that, Milan needs a lot of fresh, young, talented blood ro breathe life back into Milan. At the very least, more depth is definately required.

If Milan is really looking to bring on Van Basten as head coach, then maybe it makes sense to wait until next season before switching. Maybe Tasotti could run the team till the end of the year?

I'm just bummed about the loss and poor performance.
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Old 04-12-2005, 06:39   #134

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I never watch the match but i notice Nesta perfromance is declining.....
I tottaly aggree with you on that!
I'm a Nesta fan for many years but I don't know what happened to him this season! That's not the Nesta that we used to see...this season he's been totally inconsistant. I remember only one excellent game from him, the Italy v. Netherlands friendly, that was the real Nesta!!!! Nowadays he is mediocre but yesterday he was bad!
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Old 04-12-2005, 07:36   #135

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I'm for sacking Carlo. Not because he's done a bad job (not that he's done great this year either), but I think it's time for fresh ideas.

Along with that, Milan needs a lot of fresh, young, talented blood ro breathe life back into Milan. At the very least, more depth is definately required.

If Milan is really looking to bring on Van Basten as head coach, then maybe it makes sense to wait until next season before switching. Maybe Tasotti could run the team till the end of the year?

I'm just bummed about the loss and poor performance.
I agreed with you too.Maybe it time for some fresh young player with new coach.Not saying that we want Carlo to be sack but as wat Billy said it true.After few year becoming a coach in the same team the motivation is less.younger player will be more hungry for success then the player that already won everything in club level expecially the defender..Club like PSV played well in CL with younger player and even defeated milan. Maybe with mixture of younger player with the one that we already have it will be turn out to be a good result. Milan problem is simply the defender area.We score a lot but give away more goal compare to the team like Inter, fiorentina,Chievo
and Livorno and same amount of goal that Roma in 9th places. That terrible....
look at the stat below(undated 4/12/05 )

Gp W D L GS GA
1 Juventus 13 12 0 1 29 7
2 AC Milan 14 10 1 3 30 15
3 Inter Milan 14 9 2 3 25 11
4 Fiorentina 13 9 2 2 28 14
5 Chievo Verona 14 6 6 2 18 13
6 Livorno 13 6 4 3 13 13
7 Sampdoria 13 6 2 5 23 19
8 Udinese 13 6 2 5 15 17
9 Roma 13 5 4 4 19 15
10 Lazio 13 5 4 4 16 17

Game Play GP
W=Win D=draw L=Lose
GS= Goal score
GA=Goal agains
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