Winter Mercato

Originally Posted by Tony29.

I got it from Calciomercato :

Milan e Real hanno trovato l'accordo per 7,5 milioni di euro. Il club rossonero pagherà sette (7) milioni al Real più 500 mila euro se si qualificherà per questa Champions League e per la prossima. Il brasilano è arrivato al Bernabeu e alle 18 prenderà un areo per Milano. Al momento non sono trapelate notizie sul futuro di Oliveira

I see, well I guess the "rumour" people are yet to straighten the details for themselves
Either way, it's a decent deal I think ... and I guess my suspicions were confirmed that RO is not part of the Ronaldo deal.

We must not overpay ofcourse but if this is Milan and this is Berlusconi monetary issues shouldn't be as relevant as having a full squad with at least four capable forwards. And if it turns out to be Caracciolo in, Oliveira out its bad business and does not improve the team.

Originally Posted by rezag

We must not overpay ofcourse but if this is Milan and this is Berlusconi monetary issues shouldn't be as relevant as having a full squad with at least four capable forwards. And if it turns out to be Caracciolo in, Oliveira out its bad business and does not improve the team.

Sad but true rezag...I surely hope that Oliveira stays...

Originally Posted by rezag

We must not overpay ofcourse but if this is Milan and this is Berlusconi monetary issues shouldn't be as relevant as having a full squad with at least four capable forwards. And if it turns out to be Caracciolo in, Oliveira out its bad business and does not improve the team.

that's true, but it can also be seen as Oliveira out, Ronaldo in and Boriello out, caracciolo/someone else in.
With ronaldo in Milan, I think it would be best to loan out RO because he would find even fewer chances and to rediscover his form, he has to play. Thr problem here, IMO, is that Real, who already have 5 capable forwards, is hardly the place to send Oliveira to and expect him to regain his form ... it is this - not loaning him out, but loaning him out to Real - that makes me think that Milan may have given up on him, in general.
Anyways, I hope the last isn't true because I still believe that we can get much more out of RO.

off topic - Cannavaro seem to be on his way to Chelski, so I guess Real will stir some water looking for a new CD.

Originally Posted by zlatanov

off topic - Cannavaro seem to be on his way to Chelski, so I guess Real will stir some water looking for a new CD.

Like on his way when? Tomorrow? Or when the window opens again in May/June?

Originally Posted by zlatanov

Guys you are a bit too quick to just bash the management without giving much thought to whether the things that you hear around actually make any sense at all ... if you are so keen to go all crazy on Galliani and call him names, at least give it some time till the details are official.

Agreed, news kept on coming too fast though you cannot but notice this deal could've gone more pleasant for us..8M is still a very good price for Ronaldo, but RO going the other way looks more like accepting their demands as he was certainly of much more need to us than he is going to be for them..

Anyway, what's done it's done, Ronaldo should improve our attack if he manages to stay away from injuries..I was against the transfer in the summer, but now things have changed and I can't but hope this will prove to be a good move, if anything, his goal in the derby would be just priceless..

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

Like on his way when? Tomorrow? Or when the window opens again in May/June?

The original rumour was about him leaving Madrid this summer for 3.5 M pounds. But some English newspapers say it may happen tomorrow allready !

caraccollo i think has the potential to be an extremely good forward much better than olivera who is still having knee problerms I think and is best suited for la liga. On Milan he would third option at best. Our starting two should be gilardino and ronaldo, and then you have super sub pippo and caraccolo as your forth striker. Caraccolo right now is a much better striker than boriello.

both channel 4 and goal.com report that oli goes to Rm...

Originally Posted by Stitch

both channel 4 and goal.com report that oli goes to Rm...

on loan or a permanent deal?

Originally Posted by Stitch

both channel 4 and goal.com report that oli goes to Rm...

those are older news from several hours ago ... there is still nothing official regarding Oliveira/Caracciolo

whats the difference between a loan with an option to buy and a normal loan?? will real get oliveira cheaper or something

This is what has happened till now:

ONE IN, ONE OUT AT MILAN?

AC Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani has confirmed he will remain in Madrid to discuss the possible loan deal of Milan striker Ricardo Oliveira to Real Madrid.

The former Betis forward is a target of the Spanish giants, despite failing to make much of an impact at the San Siro with two goals scored in 17 Serie A appearances.

"We have spoken about Oliveira," said Galliani. "But it didn't enter Ronaldo's deal.

"We will negotiate the option of loaning Oliveira to Madrid between tonight and tomorrow and we will see what happens.

"Should Oliveira join Madrid on loan then (Palermo striker) Andrea Caracciolo would be an alternative signing for us."

Meanwhile, Galliani is confident his club has got a good deal in signing Ronaldo from Madrid.

"We are extremely happy," said Galliani outside the Bernabeu Stadium.

"We believe we have signed a great player.

"At AC Milan, we have very important players and Ronaldo is a player of the highest level.

"Ronaldo seemed very happy, he could have chosen to remain at Madrid or move elsewhere, where he would have been better off economically, but he has chosen Milan, and we are delighted.

"This proves that he really wants to continue to play at the top level."

Ronaldo has penned a deal until June 2008 with the Rossoneri and will travel to Milan on Tuesday afternoon.

http://www.sportinglife.com/football...l&TEAMHD=spain

Originally Posted by eltomas2

whats the difference between a loan with an option to buy and a normal loan?? will real get oliveira cheaper or something

If he goes on loan and does well and RM want to keep him and we don't, then there will be negotiations about his price then. If he is successful then I am sure we will be able to suck out the at least 20 MN Euros we have spent on him.

Loan with an option means that the team which has taken a player on loan and has the option of buying him at the end of loan term or even before.

A normal loan usually happens with youngsters who want get some experience but the club which has them on loan does not have an option to buy the player. An example would be Giuseppe Rossi who is owned by Man U and is on loan with Parma who do not have an option to buy him.