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On loan it says...but Daddy knows best, I guess

Originally Posted by eltomas2

whats the difference between a loan with an option to buy and a normal loan?? will real get oliveira cheaper or something

not really sure ... IMO it all depends on the terms the two clubs agree on.
not sure, but I think a loan with a buy-out option gives the club that has borrowed the player the right to negotiate with the player's agent and reach an agreement on the players personal terms (salary etc.) without the permission of the club that owns the player ... still, the two clubs have to agree on a transfer fee UNLESS such a fee had already been set in the preliminary loan-deal.

While in the case of just loaning a player, should the new club decide that they are interested in buying that player on a permananen deal, they have to deal directly with the club owning the player and ask for permission to deal with the players agen regarding his personal terms.

All in all, unless Milan and Real agree NOW on a transfer fee for RO should Real M decide to buy him, at the end of the loand deal the two clubs will have to meet again and discuss a transfer fee and if they can't find an agreement, RO would have to go come back to Milan.

based on my Football manager experience I'd say the price on a loaned player with an option is already set, and, at the end of the season, Real will have the option to pay it, or return the player. Otherwise, it makes no sense. The way Daddy describet it, Milan could just refuse to sell him, by placing a very high price tag...so the "option" wouldn't mean a thing.

Originally Posted by Stitch

On loan it says...but Daddy knows best, I guess

you are the best kid ever

Originally Posted by rahul.acm

If he goes on loan and does well and RM want to keep him and we don't, then there will be negotiations about his price then. If he is successful then I am sure we will be able to suck out the at least 20 MN Euros we have spent on him.

Loan with an option means that the team which has taken a player on loan and has the option of buying him at the end of loan term or even before.

A normal loan usually happens with youngsters who want get some experience but the club which has them on loan does not have an option to buy the player. An example would be Giuseppe Rossi who is owned by Man U and is on loan with Parma who do not have an option to buy him.

thanks,,,so that would leave us with Gila, Pippo and whoever else for the champions league,,,I guess that's all right as long as Milan get 4th place and no one gets injured...too bad about oliveira though but a team like Milan can't wait forever

Originally Posted by Stitch

based on my Football manager experience I'd say the price on a loaned player with an option is already set, and, at the end of the season, Real will have the option to pay it, or return the player. Otherwise, it makes no sense. The way Daddy describet it, Milan could just refuse to sell him, by placing a very high price tag...so the "option" wouldn't mean a thing.

you are probbaly right about that ... I guess it was about time those hours spend on playing FM paid off

so basically Milan will end up losing money in the RO deal, or since now we got ronaldo we would be able to get rid of Oli's salary right away...we saved some money by buying R9 now but lost a lot by buying Oli in a hurry last year which really was caused by that damn scandal...weird transfer season for milan

no one can say anything at this point in time - its not even certain that we will let go of RO to begin with and if we do, its yet to be determined if it will be a loan deal or a permananet one.
Galliani is still in Madrid though for possible negotiations with Real for RO.

'Kakà? Non si è parlato di lui e non se ne parlerà più. I rapporti con Calderon, Mijatovic e Baldini sono tornati buoni e infatti, in questo momento, sono ancora nella loro sede. Ricardo Oliveira? Potrebbe succedere qualcosa ma non credo che succederà. Non nego la trattativa, che prevederebbe prestito con diritto di riscatto per il Real, ma non penso decollerà. Ecco comunque perchè Ricardo Oliveira è rimasto a Milano'.


Galliani said that in the transfer negotiations about Ronaldo they didn't talk about Kaka
the loan of Oliveira it's not so sure that will happen after all (it could be a loan with an option for real )
Oliveira is still in Milano

latest rumours

oliveira to real
cassano to palermo
carraciolo to milan

@ Filipez:
where are you getting this info from?

Originally Posted by zlatanov

@ Filipez:
where are you getting this info from?

Sky: Cassano al Palermo
L’emittente satellitare Sky ha dato qualche minuto fa una clamorosa notizia: Cassano passerebbe in prestito dal Real Madrid (via Milan) al Palermo e Caracciolo, sempre in prestito andrebbe al Milan. La notizia finora non ha trovato riscontro negli ambienti rosanero.

Originally Posted by Tony29.

Sky: Cassano al Palermo
L’emittente satellitare Sky ha dato qualche minuto fa una clamorosa notizia: Cassano passerebbe in prestito dal Real Madrid (via Milan) al Palermo e Caracciolo, sempre in prestito andrebbe al Milan. La notizia finora non ha trovato riscontro negli ambienti rosanero.

was that on TV or on their website?
All I could find about Cassano to Milan on sky was this:
http://www.skylife.it/html/skylife/s...eal_milan.html

Originally Posted by zlatanov

was that on TV or on their website?
All I could find about Cassano to Milan on sky was this:
http://www.skylife.it/html/skylife/s...eal_milan.html

Errr, i have no idea where is it from. I found it here :
http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=23&a=32338

Read the first comment under the article !

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

Its ok, I guarantee it Tony.

You're not real God, we lost !!!!!
You can now forget about Buffon !