Winter Mercato 2011

[Arildonardo]

Originally Posted by Elmago99

And you want to sell Pato?

It's worrying that he is always injured. 2-3 more weeks out now. He is turning into a Michael Owen who got so little out of a career that started off pretty well.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of Pato and I want him to stay at Milan for life. All his injuries are so frustrating.

[Elmago99]

Apparently we're interested in Gareth Bale (LB)....

He's been in very good form from the end of last season and beginning of this season..scoring goals and bombing up and down that left Flank...

I don't know about this defending.. Also..he's been moved to LM for Tottenham..

[ACMILAN1983]

Originally Posted by Arildonardo

It's worrying that he is always injured. 2-3 more weeks out now. He is turning into a Michael Owen who got so little out of a career that started off pretty well.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of Pato and I want him to stay at Milan for life. All his injuries are so frustrating.

It could just be his age. At his age his body will be going through a lot of changes as he finishes growing, and so he's more injury prone for a year or two.

[Brasileiro]

Just to let you guy know Jucilei is literally destroying teams in Brazil.

Another amazing performance(and beautiful goal) yesterday in a BIG game(title implication) against Fluminense away from home. Huge Corinthians win and big performance by "The Monster"(as Mano Menezes call him)in the prime time game on Brazilian open TV.

I said another amazing performance, because in the first home defeat for Corinthians in Brasileirão against Grêmio last Saturday, he was AMAZING despite the negative result.

Bad news? Now Jucilei bandwagon is full and the price will be higher.

Btw, I will to write some tibits in "Kaka's father thread" about players(in Brazil) we were somewhat linkedin the near past like, Jucilei, Ganso, Neymar, Rafael Toloi, Mario Fernandes...

[Tony75]

Originally Posted by Arildonardo

It's worrying that he is always injured. 2-3 more weeks out now. He is turning into a Michael Owen who got so little out of a career that started off pretty well.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of Pato and I want him to stay at Milan for life. All his injuries are so frustrating.

Difference is that Michael Owen put on too muscle for his frame, ergo getting the injuries whilst Pato could still put another few pounds on without negative effects.

It's just an age thing and that he's still growing. Also the fact that hes our most mobile player and has to run more with our slow-ass mid.

[Kaka1899]

Originally Posted by ACMILAN1983

It could just be his age. At his age his body will be going through a lot of changes as he finishes growing, and so he's more injury prone for a year or two.

yeah i'm the same age as Pato and i can tweak my groin or calf just getting out of bed on a morning no joke

[GeoTav]

Originally Posted by Brasileiro

Just to let you guy know Jucilei is literally destroying teams in Brazil.

Another amazing performance(and beautiful goal) yesterday in a BIG game(title implication) against Fluminense away from home. Huge Corinthians win and big performance by "The Monster"(as Mano Menezes call him)in the prime time game on Brazilian open TV.

I said another amazing performance, because in the first home defeat for Corinthians in Brasileirão against Grêmio last Saturday, he was AMAZING despite the negative result.

Bad news? Now Jucilei bandwagon is full and the price will be higher.

Btw, I will to write some tibits in "Kaka's father thread" about players(in Brazil) we were somewhat linkedin the near past like, Jucilei, Ganso, Neymar, Rafael Toloi, Mario Fernandes...

Brasiliero, as long as Belrusconi is "back", we're now able again to pay the high prices !!

[xvr11]

I don't buy the age and growth thing. Everyone in the game goes through this age and period and they arent chronically injured as Pato. Some poeple bodies just can't take the pounding (R9) is prime example.

Lets not forget also the american sports where they are much more phsyical and players those age don't seem to have problems like Pato is having. And were just talking about running and fitness with slight physicality in soccer compared to football or basketball.

These injuries are worrisome.

[hitmannq8]

Bad news in Europe:

Germany:

Stuttgart and Leverkusen beat their opponents 3-0 and 4-0 respectively.

Italy:

Juve and Napoli draw at home with some unknown team 3-3 and Utretcht 0-0. Palermo lose away to Sparta Praha 3-2 (after a magical Pastore performance, u all should see him), and Sampdoria conceded a goal in the 89th minute to draw against PSV.



The thing is, UEFA takes the average coeffecient of all the Italians in Europe. With Inter drawing against Bremen, Roma losing to Bayern, and only Milan winning in Europe, Italians will 99% lose the 4th Champs League spot next year.

The Italian teams in Europe are a fking disgrace and are PATHETIC. They should all die. I hope the Italian FA speaks to them about the importance of these competitions and that we do well.

[Aficio]

Those German teams are "friends" of Europa League when Italian are newcomer (even Juve)

[GeoTav]

Originally Posted by hitmannq8

Bad news in Europe:

Germany:

Stuttgart and Leverkusen beat their opponents 3-0 and 4-0 respectively.

Italy:

Juve and Napoli draw at home with some unknown team 3-3 and Utretcht 0-0. Palermo lose away to Sparta Praha 3-2 (after a magical Pastore performance, u all should see him), and Sampdoria conceded a goal in the 89th minute to draw against PSV.



The thing is, UEFA takes the average coeffecient of all the Italians in Europe. With Inter drawing against Bremen, Roma losing to Bayern, and only Milan winning in Europe, Italians will 99% lose the 4th Champs League spot next year.

The Italian teams in Europe are a fking disgrace and are PATHETIC. They should all die. I hope the Italian FA speaks to them about the importance of these competitions and that we do well.

I was going to warn about the same thing, but I wouldn't conclude like you.
Managing to pass a round gives more points, so if Inter and Milan pass their first round, and if Juventus and Sampdoria also pass their first round, it's already good, no matter if they won, drawed or lost. It's not now it counts the most. What counts the most is to win the games in the table and qualify, qualify and qualify !!

If the German teams qualify for the first knock out game in each competition but all lose this round, then the Italian clubs will have a chance for example !!

[bayern]

Originally Posted by Brasileiro

Just to let you guy know Jucilei is literally destroying teams in Brazil.

Another amazing performance(and beautiful goal) yesterday in a BIG game(title implication) against Fluminense away from home. Huge Corinthians win and big performance by "The Monster"(as Mano Menezes call him)in the prime time game on Brazilian open TV.

I said another amazing performance, because in the first home defeat for Corinthians in Brasileirão against Grêmio last Saturday, he was AMAZING despite the negative result.

Bad news? Now Jucilei bandwagon is full and the price will be higher.

Btw, I will to write some tibits in "Kaka's father thread" about players(in Brazil) we were somewhat linkedin the near past like, Jucilei, Ganso, Neymar, Rafael Toloi, Mario Fernandes...

Isn't it amazing how a guy from Jucilei's stature can convert a goal like that ? He is such a crack. And also down to earth, I have heard he dedicated his goal to his grandmother.

Mano calls him monster ?

Monster may be the word of the week, Neymar was nicknamed Monster due to his rebel week and his bad attitude in the last days.

[Brasileiro]

Originally Posted by GeoTav

Brasiliero, as long as Belrusconi is "back", we're now able again to pay the high prices !!

You're right, Geo...
With Berlusca "back"(I hope it's for real and not a fluke), we can compete with the prices of Ganso's and Neymar's type of players, too.

Originally Posted by bayern

Isn't it amazing how a guy from Jucilei's stature can convert a goal like that ? He is such a crack. And also down to earth, I have heard he dedicated his goal to his grandmother.

Yep, his gangling style is very deceptive. Jucilei is sooooo skilled and more important(for a mid), rarely miss a pass. And look, he doesn't always try the easy ones... He loves to do a "virada de jogo"(don't know in English), something like a long pass from the right to the left(or contrary) of the field and is always spot on. Amazing passing ability.

You're right, it was dedicated to his Grandma. Jucilei had a hard life growing up. Never met his father(the guy runaway before he was born), and his mother died when he was 13. After that, was raised by his Grandmother and it was beautiful to see Jucilei gratitude for her.

Btw, it's incredible how 4 years ago he was working as Bricklayer assistant, earning 3 euros a day to help his Grandma and now is in Brazil NT. Very down to earth guy and barring a injure, will be a star in Europe.

Mano calls him monster ?

Lol... yep, Mano put this nickname. Funny thing is, Jucilei is a real Teddy bear... The guy plays tough and physical, but rarely get a yellow card or do a hard foul.

Now Corinthians fans call him Monster, too... But they also call him for several funny nicks as Blackenbauer, Jucilampard, JuciRei(Rei is King in portuguese) Jucilei Desailly, The Schweinsteiger of Fiel(Corinthians Ultras) and the list goes on...

Monster may be the word of the week, Neymar was nicknamed Monster due to his rebel week and his bad attitude in the last days.

Terrible week for Neymar... But this monster label isn't fair, yet. The kid will be punished by Santos(deservedly), but he's far for a bandit or delinquent as I saw in another Milan forum a Brazilian calling him. There's trend in Brazil from all rivals to really hate on Neymar. It is like the way C. Ronaldo was hated in EPL by another team fans. The kid is just dazzled by success and imo was really ashamed today when he apologize for his coach, teammates and fans...

That said, what he did was horrible and I hope Mano Menezes don't call him for next Brazil game. It will help on his education. But he's far from a new Edmundo like some Brazilians fans are saying...

[Elmago99]

Originally Posted by Brasileiro

You're right, Geo...
With Berlusca "back"(I hope it's for real and not a fluke), we can compete with the prices of Ganso's and Neymar's type of players, too.

Yep, his gangling style is very deceptive. Jucilei is sooooo skilled and more important(for a mid), rarely miss a pass. And look, he doesn't always try the easy ones... He loves to do a "virada de jogo"(don't know in English), something like a long pass from the right to the left(or contrary) of the field and is always spot on. Amazing passing ability.

You're right, it was dedicated to his Grandma. Jucilei had a hard life growing up. Never met his father(the guy runaway before he was born), and his mother died when he was 13. After that, was raised by his Grandmother and it was beautiful to see Jucilei gratitude for her.

Btw, it's incredible how 4 years ago he was working as Bricklayer assistant, earning 3 euros a day to help his Grandma and now is in Brazil NT. Very down to earth guy and barring a injure, will be a star in Europe.


Lol... yep, Mano put this nickname. Funny thing is, Jucilei is a real Teddy bear... The guy plays tough and physical, but rarely get a yellow card or do a hard foul.

Now Corinthians fans call him Monster, too... But they also call him for several funny nicks as Blackenbauer, Jucilampard, JuciRei(Rei is King in portuguese) Jucilei Desailly, The Schweinsteiger of Fiel(Corinthians Ultras) and the list goes on...

Terrible week for Neymar... But this monster label isn't fair, yet. The kid will be punished by Santos(deservedly), but he's far for a bandit or delinquent as I saw in another Milan forum a Brazilian calling him. There's trend in Brazil from all rivals to really hate on Neymar. It is like the way C. Ronaldo was hated in EPL by another team fans. The kid is just dazzled by success and imo was really ashamed today when he apologize for his coach, teammates and fans...

That said, what he did was horrible and I hope Mano Menezes don't call him for next Brazil game. It will help on his education. But he's far from a new Edmundo like some Brazilians fans are saying...

Thanks Brasileiro for the information. Milan has had a strong connection with Brazilians the way Merda has had a connection with Argentines...

Can you just give a sentence describing each player..and who they most resemble in Europe.... I think right now Jucilei is the guy Milan needs most..more than Ganso or Neymar...

Jucilei:
Ganso:
Neymar:

Are there any promising RB's? new Dani Alves'? Maicon's?

[Maltese Charlie]

Barbara Berlusconi is showing interest to have a seat in Milan's Management!!!!!

Looks like something is going to happen.