Bologna vs. AC Milan Sunday 12th December.

shegs · 09-12-2010, 09:49

i'm still fuming

after the embarrassing defeat in the match against Ajax. We have to win this match not just to extend the lead between us and merda

but to give the team a lift. Since Juventus and Lazio are squaring off this weekend

, a win would see us distance ourselves from the park if Lazio drop points.
'dinho smashed them the last time but under no circumstances,

i repeat NO CIRCUMSTANCES, should he start that this match. He's clearly past his best.

my preferred starting formation;
Abbiati, Yepes, Nesta, Zam / Luca, Abate, Pirlo/ Gattuso, Ambro, Prince, Seedorf/ Gattuso, Ibra, Binho. Starting without Pirlo or Seedorf is jst to make sure that there's someone on the bench who (theoretically?!) can add some bite to the attack if the game becomes too hard, as Bologna will most likely seat deep and play for the draw. I just hope that Mr. Allegri will make changes in time if the team isn't performing well (not like the Sampdoria game).

#3Forever · 10-12-2010, 14:48

I think that this game is probably one of the most important for our season so far. Exactly the type of games that we struggled with last season. Games away from home against mid table or lower teams. Last year we would tie or even lose (vs Parma) those games. We can't get overconfident but I still believe we will win, probably 2-0 or 3-0. Without Flamini and Thiago Silva, our season at least until the new year will be difficult. Our next few games are against Roma, Calgiari and Udinese. It is vitally important that against these struggling teams we get victory. For tommorows game I think that we will be able to play a more attacking formation without the three "destroyer" midfielders. I would go with this formation

------------------------------Abbiati----------------------------------
----Abate-----------Nesta------------Yepes-----------Zambrotta------
---------------Boetang--------Pirlo--------Gattuso--------------------
-----------------------------Seedorf----------------------------------
---------------------Robinho----------Ibrahimovic----------------------

What are your thoughts on playing Pirlo and Seedorf in the same lineup?

Ryo · 10-12-2010, 18:39

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Originally Posted by #3Forever

I think that this game is probably one of the most important for our season so far. Exactly the type of games that we struggled with last season. Games away from home against mid table or lower teams. Last year we would tie or even lose (vs Parma) those games. We can't get overconfident but I still believe we will win, probably 2-0 or 3-0. Without Flamini and Thiago Silva, our season at least until the new year will be difficult. Our next few games are against Roma, Calgiari and Udinese. It is vitally important that against these struggling teams we get victory. For tommorows game I think that we will be able to play a more attacking formation without the three "destroyer" midfielders. I would go with this formation

------------------------------Abbiati----------------------------------
----Abate-----------Nesta------------Yepes-----------Zambrotta------
---------------Boetang--------Pirlo--------Gattuso--------------------
-----------------------------Seedorf----------------------------------
---------------------Robinho----------Ibrahimovic----------------------

What are your thoughts on playing Pirlo and Seedorf in the same lineup?

If you wanted true balance, then I would suggest we take Pirlo off for Captain Max. Somehow I'm not convinced that Pirlo, based on the recent outings alone, can face up to smaller teams tackles and come away with the ball every time. If we lose the ball in that position, Pirlo can't win the ball back, but we would normally be safe in the knowledge that Sandro and Thiago are there.
This game, however, will be the first game in a long while now that we haven't had half of our defensive gate to play with (and the more active half at that). Whilst Yepes is a decent CentreBack, I can't see him do the spectacular, timed tackles that Thiago makes to clear our lines. Thus, for a better precaution, I would rather we have Ambro, Prince and Rino in the middle to hold the ball, and lose a little quality in our distribution instead.

Perhaps Pirlo in Seedorf's trequartista role for this match might be a bit better to link up play, since I think Binho and Ibra both have enough quality to get past Bologna's defense. That way, if he loses the ball, we still have the entire length of the midfield to win it back.

Elmago99 · 10-12-2010, 18:51

--------Ibrahimovic----Robinho---------
-------------------------------------------
------------------Seedorf----------------
--------Gattuso-----------Boateng------
----------------Ambrosini----------------
Zambrotta-------------------------Abate
---------------Yepes---Nesta-------------
-------------------------------------------
------------------Abbiati------------------

Pirlo in if we need to score.... Ronaldinho too... but I don't want to see Rino-Pirlo-Seedorf all playing at once anymore...EVER again......

We should win...either Ibra OR Binho has been producing magic ....let's ride keep riding on that until we get our full squad back..and perhaps a (Ganso) in January...

#3Forever · 10-12-2010, 19:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryo

If you wanted true balance, then I would suggest we take Pirlo off for Captain Max. Somehow I'm not convinced that Pirlo, based on the recent outings alone, can face up to smaller teams tackles and come away with the ball every time. If we lose the ball in that position, Pirlo can't win the ball back, but we would normally be safe in the knowledge that Sandro and Thiago are there.
This game, however, will be the first game in a long while now that we haven't had half of our defensive gate to play with (and the more active half at that). Whilst Yepes is a decent CentreBack, I can't see him do the spectacular, timed tackles that Thiago makes to clear our lines. Thus, for a better precaution, I would rather we have Ambro, Prince and Rino in the middle to hold the ball, and lose a little quality in our distribution instead.

Perhaps Pirlo in Seedorf's trequartista role for this match might be a bit better to link up play, since I think Binho and Ibra both have enough quality to get past Bologna's defense. That way, if he loses the ball, we still have the entire length of the midfield to win it back.

I agree with you about the worries of putting Pirlo and Seedorf in the same team, but perhaps against a "smaller" team like Bologna we may be able to get away from it. Maybe playing Pirlo behind the two strikers is a good idea, for he does have excellant distribution and can take really good shots. But I think that he won't be as good in that trequartista role as he hasn't played there for quite a few years. I don't think that he would be as good as a connecter between midfield and offense as perhaps Seedorf or Robinho. But I think if we are to try new things out the best team to try it against is probably Bologna

Bosniaco · 10-12-2010, 21:06

I can tell you this, and as much as I love my Milan, I have to say that Milan has not been that great or good, I think its the other teams that have been very bad and thats why we are on top. Hopefully we will stay there.

Gabriel489 · 11-12-2010, 01:53

I think Ibra is one huge reason why Milan is top of the table.

mzk57 · 11-12-2010, 08:13

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Originally Posted by Gabriel489

I think Ibra is one huge reason why Milan is top of the table.

Yeah, its one the big reasons, but THE MAIN reason is that AC Milan got rid of Leonardo. With him ACM would have been 5th right now.

Lebanese · 11-12-2010, 18:01

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Originally Posted by mzk57

Yeah, its one the big reasons, but THE MAIN reason is that AC Milan got rid of Leonardo. With him ACM would have been 5th right now.

And got rid of many players who are dead wood in order to bring in 7 new players, if leonardo had these players under his disposal things would be different

abbeyleemaniac · 12-12-2010, 06:07

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Originally Posted by Lebanese

And got rid of many players who are dead wood in order to bring in 7 new players, if leonardo had these players under his disposal things would be different

if Leonardo had a healty Pato during the season, we could have won the scudetto.

Now Allegri has Boateng, ibra and Robinho. Thats the difference between this season and last season.

if Leo had these players, everything would be different but positively.

ACMILAN1983 · 12-12-2010, 11:02

Missed the game today due to other commitments. If anyone has the game for download (or a link), I would very much appreciate it.

Thanks in advance.

shegs · 11-12-2010, 02:34

At least we're top of the table! it's been so long since we last won the title that i don't care how we win it; lousy play, one-man team football, hopeful long ball play, crisp passing, boring 1-0 wins till the season ends, or winning the title not because we were the best side in the division but because we were the "least bad" side. it doesn't matter, as long as we win the Scudetto come May.

LebRN · 11-12-2010, 08:46

No more starting line-ups with Pirlo & Seedorf
& no more Pirlo in the CDM position

these are the 2 things i hope i never see in Milan ever again and i don't think any Milan fan needs explanation to why that is.

As for the Bologna match, I think we should play Papa for Thiago. I know Papa has not played well in any official match this season but I still think he is our best option for the remaining matches until the break.
I am pretty sure that Nesta & Yepes can do a good job against Bologna (especially that their main striker is Di Vaio, who is old and slow and both of them can handle) but for matches to come we will have to face younger and faster opposition and the Nesta-Yepes combination will struggle against. This will be the perfect time for Papa to prove if he can cut it at Milan or not and we need to play a younger faster CB with Nesta.

For the midfield, i think a Gattuso - Ambro - Boateng is th best option with Pirlo as the trequartista

I would also like to see Gattuso in the middle not because i think he is better than Ambro there but to allow Ambro to play on the sides with Boa as both can support the attack while Gattuso cannot. Maybe we can try this against Bologna and see how Gattuso will do there.

OCmilano · 11-12-2010, 10:25

Lebrn I agree with you on your Papa choice. Id rather have a younger faster help for nesta.

These are times I wish Onyewu got to play in some games so he could help.
Honestly how much worse do you think he is then Papa or Yepes?

LebRN · 11-12-2010, 10:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by OCmilano

Lebrn I agree with you on your Papa choice. Id rather have a younger faster help for nesta.

These are times I wish Onyewu got to play in some games so he could help.
Honestly how much worse do you think he is then Papa or Yepes?

to be honest, i think Onyewu is really poor....
sorry mate, i've always been reading ur posts and u always mention Onyewu, but for the few times i have seen him play, he was absolutely horrible. the only thing he is good at was high balls, but all else: duels, marking, positioning...he is very very poor.

i strongly agree with Allegri to have him at the bottom of the pecking order and will not understand it if he does not leave in Jan

09-12-2010, 09:49	#1
shegs Registered User Join Date: 05 2009 Location: Lagos, Nigeria. Fave Players: Shevchenko, Ronaldo and Bergkamp.	Bologna vs. AC Milan Sunday 12th December. i'm still fuming after the embarrassing defeat in the match against Ajax. We have to win this match not just to extend the lead between us and merda but to give the team a lift. Since Juventus and Lazio are squaring off this weekend , a win would see us distance ourselves from the park if Lazio drop points. 'dinho smashed them the last time but under no circumstances, i repeat NO CIRCUMSTANCES, should he start that this match. He's clearly past his best. my preferred starting formation; Abbiati, Yepes, Nesta, Zam / Luca, Abate, Pirlo/ Gattuso, Ambro, Prince, Seedorf/ Gattuso, Ibra, Binho. Starting without Pirlo or Seedorf is jst to make sure that there's someone on the bench who (theoretically?!) can add some bite to the attack if the game becomes too hard, as Bologna will most likely seat deep and play for the draw. I just hope that Mr. Allegri will make changes in time if the team isn't performing well (not like the Sampdoria game). __________________ Allegri's like a chess player; patient & deep-thinking.... Mourinho is incisive precise and cut-throat. Like a sniper. Last edited by shegs; 09-12-2010 at 09:57.

10-12-2010, 14:48	#2
#3Forever Registered User Join Date: 08 2010 Location: New Jersey, USA Fave Players: Maldini, Pirlo, Baresi,	I think that this game is probably one of the most important for our season so far. Exactly the type of games that we struggled with last season. Games away from home against mid table or lower teams. Last year we would tie or even lose (vs Parma) those games. We can't get overconfident but I still believe we will win, probably 2-0 or 3-0. Without Flamini and Thiago Silva, our season at least until the new year will be difficult. Our next few games are against Roma, Calgiari and Udinese. It is vitally important that against these struggling teams we get victory. For tommorows game I think that we will be able to play a more attacking formation without the three "destroyer" midfielders. I would go with this formation ------------------------------Abbiati---------------------------------- ----Abate-----------Nesta------------Yepes-----------Zambrotta------ ---------------Boetang--------Pirlo--------Gattuso-------------------- -----------------------------Seedorf---------------------------------- ---------------------Robinho----------Ibrahimovic---------------------- What are your thoughts on playing Pirlo and Seedorf in the same lineup? __________________ -Headed away by John Clarke, using his head-

10-12-2010, 21:06	#6
Bosniaco Registered User Join Date: 03 2005 Location: USA Fave Players: Weah,Barbarez, Maldini, in future Pato and Dzeko	I can tell you this, and as much as I love my Milan, I have to say that Milan has not been that great or good, I think its the other teams that have been very bad and thats why we are on top. Hopefully we will stay there. __________________ A.C. MILAN and F.K.ŽELJEZNICAR<

11-12-2010, 02:34	#12
shegs Registered User Join Date: 05 2009 Location: Lagos, Nigeria. Fave Players: Shevchenko, Ronaldo and Bergkamp.	At least we're top of the table! it's been so long since we last won the title that i don't care how we win it; lousy play, one-man team football, hopeful long ball play, crisp passing, boring 1-0 wins till the season ends, or winning the title not because we were the best side in the division but because we were the "least bad" side. it doesn't matter, as long as we win the Scudetto come May. __________________ Allegri's like a chess player; patient & deep-thinking.... Mourinho is incisive precise and cut-throat. Like a sniper.

11-12-2010, 10:25	#14
OCmilano Registered User Join Date: 08 2006 Location: Southern California Fave Players: All that wear Red & Black	Lebrn I agree with you on your Papa choice. Id rather have a younger faster help for nesta. These are times I wish Onyewu got to play in some games so he could help. Honestly how much worse do you think he is then Papa or Yepes? __________________ ROBINHO TIME

10-12-2010, 18:51	#4
Elmago99 Registered User Join Date: 06 2010 Location: New York Fave Players: Nesta, Pippo, Ibra, Rino, Maldini, Tevez, Drogba	--------Ibrahimovic----Robinho--------- ------------------------------------------- ------------------Seedorf---------------- --------Gattuso-----------Boateng------ ----------------Ambrosini---------------- Zambrotta-------------------------Abate ---------------Yepes---Nesta------------- ------------------------------------------- ------------------Abbiati------------------ Pirlo in if we need to score.... Ronaldinho too... but I don't want to see Rino-Pirlo-Seedorf all playing at once anymore...EVER again...... We should win...either Ibra OR Binho has been producing magic ....let's ride keep riding on that until we get our full squad back..and perhaps a (Ganso) in January...

11-12-2010, 01:53	#7
Gabriel489 Registered User Join Date: 07 2007 Location: Hong Kong Fave Players: Captain Maldini	I think Ibra is one huge reason why Milan is top of the table.

12-12-2010, 11:02	#11
ACMILAN1983 Registered User Join Date: 01 2004 Location: England Fave Players: Maldini, Pirlo and rest of Milan	Missed the game today due to other commitments. If anyone has the game for download (or a link), I would very much appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

11-12-2010, 08:46	#13
LebRN Registered User Join Date: 09 2009 Location: Dubai Fave Players: Nesta, Pato, Thiago Silva, Flamini	No more starting line-ups with Pirlo & Seedorf & no more Pirlo in the CDM position these are the 2 things i hope i never see in Milan ever again and i don't think any Milan fan needs explanation to why that is. As for the Bologna match, I think we should play Papa for Thiago. I know Papa has not played well in any official match this season but I still think he is our best option for the remaining matches until the break. I am pretty sure that Nesta & Yepes can do a good job against Bologna (especially that their main striker is Di Vaio, who is old and slow and both of them can handle) but for matches to come we will have to face younger and faster opposition and the Nesta-Yepes combination will struggle against. This will be the perfect time for Papa to prove if he can cut it at Milan or not and we need to play a younger faster CB with Nesta. For the midfield, i think a Gattuso - Ambro - Boateng is th best option with Pirlo as the trequartista I would also like to see Gattuso in the middle not because i think he is better than Ambro there but to allow Ambro to play on the sides with Boa as both can support the attack while Gattuso cannot. Maybe we can try this against Bologna and see how Gattuso will do there.