Ronaldo´s current "injury" issue - Page 3

inter-1908 · 09-09-2007, 19:49

hes a good player and again not like how he was at 1 time but its not al bad, because he does score some good goals he did score a nice one against my inter! hes a good sub or replacement for kaka, when hes fatigued or when hes injured

rt9 · 09-09-2007, 21:52

Look, it's not the end of the world if someone wants a second opinion about his medical condition. Although, in the end of the day, one must weight differing opinions according to their quality and reputation. And objectively speaking, an opinion from Milan's medical team and Prof. Martens, who is arguably the most reputable sports physician in Europe if not the world, would weight more than that of any doctor from anywhere, let alone Brazil.

The only thing that pisses me off, this is also because I myself am a doctor, is the fact that a doctor from Brazil is talking trash about Milan's doctors. In our profession, there are plenty of differing views by different people, but we dont go around slamming other people's opinions and brag about our own. There should be enough professional courtesy given to Milan's doctors. ANd for that alone, I feel the Brazil doctor shows very very poor class, and I for one would not believe in what he has to say.

eltomas2 · 09-09-2007, 22:03

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Originally Posted by rt9

The only thing that pisses me off, this is also because I myself am a doctor, is the fact that a doctor from Brazil is talking trash about Milan's doctors. In our profession, there are plenty of differing views by different people, but we dont go around slamming other people's opinions and brag about our own. There should be enough professional courtesy given to Milan's doctors. ANd for that alone, I feel the Brazil doctor shows very very poor class, and I for one would not believe in what he has to say.

exactly, that Doctor should have kept his mouth shut, if you got nothing good to say then don't say anything, specially in his situation..anyways, let's hope Ronnie gets better sooner than later

Nalx · 09-09-2007, 23:04

Calm down dude. Just like eltomas2 said, perhaps the press twisted the words.

Stitch · 10-09-2007, 04:59

From channel4

Ronnie recovery delayed again
Monday 10 September, 2007
The mystery surrounding Milan hitman Ronaldo’s injury has deepened with news that he may be sidelined for another month.

When the Selecao star reported a pain in his thigh on July 31, it was expected that he would return to action in time for the start of the campaign.

However, Ronaldo’s recovery has been painfully slow, prompting him to consult the national side’s doctor in Brazil, who criticised his Milan counterparts for their treatment of his complaint.

While Italian doctors believed that Ronaldo’s injury was a mere strain, it has now been revealed to be a much more serious rupture.

The Diavolo medical team now seem willing to admit that they initially made an error in their diagnosis, but they are demanding that the ex-Inter man return to Milanello.

The saga may yet turn ugly if the 30-year-old continues to snub his club’s request and boss Carlo Ancelotti’s assertion that Ronaldo would be fit for the September 15 clash with Siena looks increasingly far-fetched.

Latest estimates suggest that the No 99 will need at least another month to get over his injury woes and could return for Week 7’s trip to the Stadio Olimpico to face Lazio.

damn...it's not like I doubted this will happen. I only wished I would be wrong

ginoformaggino · 10-09-2007, 06:41

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Originally Posted by BMWTaylor

Well, we took the chance by signing him when he was overweight and injury-prone. This type of situation was inevitable and we have no one to blame but ourselves.

I do believe that it's not a surprise how Ronaldo acts: we knew very well what his behavior is always disconcerting.
The alarm bell about injuries had ringed last season aloud, and all the world knows our players aren't so young, so they are under a big risk constantly, just for their age.

I truely thought that our market was a little better of an unripe duck, a brother survivor from a surgical operation and another grandpa especially after Oliveira 22 mil. €. disaster.

Now it is proved our managers are very far from perfection: they should admit it, but, I do bet everything you want, it's impossible they do it: for sure, they'll keep on saying R9 is our best purchase for this season and the other teams don't want to sell... bla bla. The truth is that Milan don't want to open the pocket, except for Oliveira only hoping that De Assis shoves R10 to AC (for free!!!! obviously)
And it's all ok, don't you think?

ps.: I'm very angry, so I apologize but my blood is hot and this R9's soap opera makes me furious

ForeverMilan · 10-09-2007, 06:52

Caso Ronaldoarla Jean Pierre Meersseman,coordinatore sanitario del Milan.<e'^la versione ufficale della societa'-dice Adriano Galliani-D'ora in poi nessuno di no commentera' vocie o notizie di qualunque genere su Ronaldo>Ecco la verita' del Milan

Jeen Pierre Meersseman,quali errori avete commesso?

-Abbiamo sbagliato la prima valutazione,Subito dopo l'infortunio e' sara stata effettuata un'ecografia e il giorni dopo una risonanza e un un'altra ecografia.Tutto chiaro:stiramento di primo grado.

inveco era di secondo grado.

-E' vero,ma la nostra stessa valutozione era stata fatta dal radiologo e dagli altri specialisti interpelati,Tre giorn dopo l'infortunio la gamba sinistra di Ronaldo presenteva una ematoma particolarmente grande,il 6 agosto una nuovo risonanza ha charito il problema.

Perche' non ve ne siete accorti subito?

-Non ce' una risposta:risonanze,grafie ed esami clinici non giustificavano alcun dubbio

Ronaldo pero',si e' arrabbiato.

-il Radiologo,sbagliando,gli aveva detto che sarebbe guarito in 5-6 giorni,e ha avuto ovvie ripercussioni sulla psiche del ragazzo.

il 25 agosto Ancelotti assicuro' che Ronaldo sarebbe pututo andare in panchina a Montecarlo il 31 e in campo contro La Fiorentina il 3 settembre,Com'e possible?

-C'e stato un errore di comunicazione interna,il recupero di Ronaldo procedeva benissimo e l'errata valutazione del l'infortunio non aveva comportato alcun ritardo,Ronaldo correva in allenamento,si sentiva meglio e ancelotti lo vedeva crescere.Quando provava a calciare,ecco il problema:la fibrosi,ossia quella specie di ''pallina'' che gli dava fastidio che e' la cicatrice dello stiramento.il fastidio non spariva e abbiamo fatto altri controlli.

Torniamo indietro:Ronaldo si rivolge a un medico di fiducia.

-Questoo medico non guarda gli esmai precedenti,non lo visita,gli fa un'altra risonanza.Per lui il tendine e' rotto,lo non posso crederci,chiedo di vedere le immagini della risonanza e insieme al dottor Sala che e' molto serio e competente,ne scorriamo ben 154.Beh non c'e' alcuna lesione del tendine.

A Ronaldo non bastava?Non si fidava di voi?

-Si,ma era comprensibilimente agitato,Allora sono stato io a dirgli:Andiamo dal professor Martens'',Che confermato la nostra versione>

Pero' Ronaldo chiede di volare in Brasile,Perche'?

-Lui aveva gia' l'idea di stare 3 giorni a casa,Martens pero',gli dice,Allenati prima possibile'Allora cerco di convicerlo a non andare.Giovedi nel volo di ritorno da Anversa c'e' un fitto giro di telefonate tra me,lui,Galliani e Leonarado,io penso che la societa' sia d'accordo,la societa' pensa che io sia d'accordo e Ronaldo parte.

Con l'obbligo di tornare lunedi,cioe' oggi.

-Si,avevamo gia perso troppo tempo.Ma prima ancora che venga visitato dal Dottor Runco,esce la voce che si fermera' a Rio per una settimana,io parlo con Runco,che mi spiega cosa intende fare,optiamo per la terapia nota come ''Fattore di crescita''Allora,considerando anche l'ipotiroidismo che crea problemi di coagulazione,suggerisco a galliani di lasciarlo in brasile ancora un paio di giorni.

Quando arrivera' a Milano?

-Sicuramente mercoledi''

E in campo?

-Giovedi fara' i test,poi dovra' ricominciare ad allenarsi.All'inizio della settimana prossima ne sapremo di piu',ma credo che potra' giocare tra circa un mese.

Perche' non avete scoperto l'ipotiroidismo al suo arrivo a gennaio?

-Perche' dagli esami di base non risultava ed era logico pensare che lui fosse sovrappeso,per l'alimentazione e per l'inattivita',Pero',al ritorno dalle vacanze,la sua faccia era molto gonfia e ci siamo insospettiti,Cosi abbiamo scoperto la verita'.

Milan Lab Sbaglia le diagnosi?

-Milan Lab non fa le diagnosi: e' una struttura che si rivolge volta per volta ai migliori specialisti,Errori ne facciamo,ma facciamo anche tante cose buone.

E se questa ''Pallina'' non dovesse sparire in tempi brevi?

-Le rispondo con le parole di Martens:l'ipotesi che accada e' remota e non giustificata,visti i progressi.Eventualmente si dovrebbe fare un'incisione per puliere la zona interassata.lo stop sarebbe di un mese,Ma non ce ne sara alcun bisogno.

La gazzetta dello sport.

Arildonardo · 10-09-2007, 09:25

This situation is getting more and more strange every day. What is the truth surrounding his "mystery" injury? I would really like some clear answers from Milan regarding this. We need Ronaldo if we should be able to win the Serie A, and I don't like it when things like these are played down.

nefremo · 10-09-2007, 10:36

This is the one thing I don't understand..............He is injured, fine. It can happen to anyone, but what is he doing in Brazil????? They should bring him back immediately and let him recover in Milanello just like everyone else.

Debs · 10-09-2007, 10:47

This is the nightmare I feared when we signed Ronnie.....hate to say I told yo uso....

kastriot · 10-09-2007, 11:45

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Originally Posted by Debs

This is the nightmare I feared when we signed Ronnie.....hate to say I told yo uso....

Lets just wait a bit before jumping to conclusion...this may turn to be just newspaper talks!!

however i dont like the way our management is handling this situation

drucurl · 10-09-2007, 11:50

not to be a fanboy or anything but let's wait till the facts come out ...then even I will join in the bashing....at present though I am glad that he cares soooo much about playing and not sitting and making money.. it's something that you'd expect from gattuso

Warro Bantan · 10-09-2007, 12:19

Well well well....what can I say....???

Milanlab are capable of a misdiagnosis once every "blue" moon...and Ronnie´s reaction to me, isnt all that bad...and in truth, its good that he went, as the injury is obviously more serious than first thought.

Ok, so he is out for a month....maybe we can recall Oliveira?

One last point: It seems Berlu is resigned to us playing with one out and out striker, hence the club´s decision not to go for another in the transfer window....Gila, R99, Pippo, and in Jan, Pato is way more than enough for a "single" striker formation.

So, because of his injury, we have Pippo, and Gila "alone" until Oct? Hmmm...doesnt seem like the end of the world for me...it just means our midfield and defense will have to play very very very very well....and hopefully now Gorky will get a run...?

peters · 10-09-2007, 12:21

no point in asking questions now... lets just give him a month or 2 and hope he can come back fit and eager to play and score alot. He might be the 'thing' to secure 4th spot for us at the end of the season.

(sarcasm, sarcasm...)

rossomero · 10-09-2007, 16:09

we are fans of the worlds biggest club and we have to stand in ours club lvl i believe ppl are involved with milans things are really experienced and classy and ronaldo is a big foottball phenomenon that is suitable for milans name and profile and i know if he come back and start to score you will forget all these stuffs give time to ppl knows better i believe that belru and galliani knows top class football managment better than everyone all the other stuffs are fornewspaper fun and cafeteria discussionsyou have to be sure that if ronaldo take it too far they will sent him off noone is bigger than the club and fans have to be cool other guys working for that

09-09-2007, 19:49	#31
inter-1908 Registered User Join Date: 08 2007 Location: milan, italy Fave Players: Ibrahimovic, Figo, and all the other inter players	hes a good player and again not like how he was at 1 time but its not al bad, because he does score some good goals he did score a nice one against my inter! hes a good sub or replacement for kaka, when hes fatigued or when hes injured __________________ F.C. Internazionale-Milano 1908-2008 Centenario Inter CaMpIoNi dItAliA SiAmo AnCoRa NoI!

09-09-2007, 23:04	#34
Nalx Registered User Join Date: 04 2006 Location: tanah merah putih Fave Players: San Marco, Billy, Patinho	Calm down dude. Just like eltomas2 said, perhaps the press twisted the words. __________________ The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool --Almost Famous--

10-09-2007, 04:59	#35
Stitch Registered User Join Date: 05 2006 Location: Sarajevo Fave Players: San Paolo, MVB, Safet Susic, The Divine Ponytail	From channel4 Ronnie recovery delayed again Monday 10 September, 2007 The mystery surrounding Milan hitman Ronaldo’s injury has deepened with news that he may be sidelined for another month. When the Selecao star reported a pain in his thigh on July 31, it was expected that he would return to action in time for the start of the campaign. However, Ronaldo’s recovery has been painfully slow, prompting him to consult the national side’s doctor in Brazil, who criticised his Milan counterparts for their treatment of his complaint. While Italian doctors believed that Ronaldo’s injury was a mere strain, it has now been revealed to be a much more serious rupture. The Diavolo medical team now seem willing to admit that they initially made an error in their diagnosis, but they are demanding that the ex-Inter man return to Milanello. The saga may yet turn ugly if the 30-year-old continues to snub his club’s request and boss Carlo Ancelotti’s assertion that Ronaldo would be fit for the September 15 clash with Siena looks increasingly far-fetched. Latest estimates suggest that the No 99 will need at least another month to get over his injury woes and could return for Week 7’s trip to the Stadio Olimpico to face Lazio. damn...it's not like I doubted this will happen. I only wished I would be wrong __________________ YES DZEKO !!!!!!! www.fksinfo.com

10-09-2007, 06:52	#37
ForeverMilan Registered User Join Date: 05 2007 Fave Players: all milan players	Caso Ronaldoarla Jean Pierre Meersseman,coordinatore sanitario del Milan.<e'^la versione ufficale della societa'-dice Adriano Galliani-D'ora in poi nessuno di no commentera' vocie o notizie di qualunque genere su Ronaldo>Ecco la verita' del Milan Jeen Pierre Meersseman,quali errori avete commesso? -Abbiamo sbagliato la prima valutazione,Subito dopo l'infortunio e' sara stata effettuata un'ecografia e il giorni dopo una risonanza e un un'altra ecografia.Tutto chiaro:stiramento di primo grado. inveco era di secondo grado. -E' vero,ma la nostra stessa valutozione era stata fatta dal radiologo e dagli altri specialisti interpelati,Tre giorn dopo l'infortunio la gamba sinistra di Ronaldo presenteva una ematoma particolarmente grande,il 6 agosto una nuovo risonanza ha charito il problema. Perche' non ve ne siete accorti subito? -Non ce' una risposta:risonanze,grafie ed esami clinici non giustificavano alcun dubbio Ronaldo pero',si e' arrabbiato. -il Radiologo,sbagliando,gli aveva detto che sarebbe guarito in 5-6 giorni,e ha avuto ovvie ripercussioni sulla psiche del ragazzo. il 25 agosto Ancelotti assicuro' che Ronaldo sarebbe pututo andare in panchina a Montecarlo il 31 e in campo contro La Fiorentina il 3 settembre,Com'e possible? -C'e stato un errore di comunicazione interna,il recupero di Ronaldo procedeva benissimo e l'errata valutazione del l'infortunio non aveva comportato alcun ritardo,Ronaldo correva in allenamento,si sentiva meglio e ancelotti lo vedeva crescere.Quando provava a calciare,ecco il problema:la fibrosi,ossia quella specie di ''pallina'' che gli dava fastidio che e' la cicatrice dello stiramento.il fastidio non spariva e abbiamo fatto altri controlli. Torniamo indietro:Ronaldo si rivolge a un medico di fiducia. -Questoo medico non guarda gli esmai precedenti,non lo visita,gli fa un'altra risonanza.Per lui il tendine e' rotto,lo non posso crederci,chiedo di vedere le immagini della risonanza e insieme al dottor Sala che e' molto serio e competente,ne scorriamo ben 154.Beh non c'e' alcuna lesione del tendine. A Ronaldo non bastava?Non si fidava di voi? -Si,ma era comprensibilimente agitato,Allora sono stato io a dirgli:Andiamo dal professor Martens'',Che confermato la nostra versione> Pero' Ronaldo chiede di volare in Brasile,Perche'? -Lui aveva gia' l'idea di stare 3 giorni a casa,Martens pero',gli dice,Allenati prima possibile'Allora cerco di convicerlo a non andare.Giovedi nel volo di ritorno da Anversa c'e' un fitto giro di telefonate tra me,lui,Galliani e Leonarado,io penso che la societa' sia d'accordo,la societa' pensa che io sia d'accordo e Ronaldo parte. Con l'obbligo di tornare lunedi,cioe' oggi. -Si,avevamo gia perso troppo tempo.Ma prima ancora che venga visitato dal Dottor Runco,esce la voce che si fermera' a Rio per una settimana,io parlo con Runco,che mi spiega cosa intende fare,optiamo per la terapia nota come ''Fattore di crescita''Allora,considerando anche l'ipotiroidismo che crea problemi di coagulazione,suggerisco a galliani di lasciarlo in brasile ancora un paio di giorni. Quando arrivera' a Milano? -Sicuramente mercoledi'' E in campo? -Giovedi fara' i test,poi dovra' ricominciare ad allenarsi.All'inizio della settimana prossima ne sapremo di piu',ma credo che potra' giocare tra circa un mese. Perche' non avete scoperto l'ipotiroidismo al suo arrivo a gennaio? -Perche' dagli esami di base non risultava ed era logico pensare che lui fosse sovrappeso,per l'alimentazione e per l'inattivita',Pero',al ritorno dalle vacanze,la sua faccia era molto gonfia e ci siamo insospettiti,Cosi abbiamo scoperto la verita'. Milan Lab Sbaglia le diagnosi? -Milan Lab non fa le diagnosi: e' una struttura che si rivolge volta per volta ai migliori specialisti,Errori ne facciamo,ma facciamo anche tante cose buone. E se questa ''Pallina'' non dovesse sparire in tempi brevi? -Le rispondo con le parole di Martens:l'ipotesi che accada e' remota e non giustificata,visti i progressi.Eventualmente si dovrebbe fare un'incisione per puliere la zona interassata.lo stop sarebbe di un mese,Ma non ce ne sara alcun bisogno. La gazzetta dello sport. __________________ Kaka ''Pato could become il Messi del Milan''

10-09-2007, 10:36	#39
nefremo Registered User Join Date: 03 2001 Location: USA; Macedonia Fave Players: All Milan players!	This is the one thing I don't understand..............He is injured, fine. It can happen to anyone, but what is he doing in Brazil????? They should bring him back immediately and let him recover in Milanello just like everyone else. __________________ MILAN FOREVER!

09-09-2007, 21:52	#32
rt9 Registered User Join Date: 05 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Fave Players: marco van basten, rui costa, kaka, pirlo	Look, it's not the end of the world if someone wants a second opinion about his medical condition. Although, in the end of the day, one must weight differing opinions according to their quality and reputation. And objectively speaking, an opinion from Milan's medical team and Prof. Martens, who is arguably the most reputable sports physician in Europe if not the world, would weight more than that of any doctor from anywhere, let alone Brazil. The only thing that pisses me off, this is also because I myself am a doctor, is the fact that a doctor from Brazil is talking trash about Milan's doctors. In our profession, there are plenty of differing views by different people, but we dont go around slamming other people's opinions and brag about our own. There should be enough professional courtesy given to Milan's doctors. ANd for that alone, I feel the Brazil doctor shows very very poor class, and I for one would not believe in what he has to say.

10-09-2007, 09:25	#38
Arildonardo Registered User Join Date: 08 2001 Location: Kristiansand, Norway Fave Players: Maldini, Pirlo, Gattuso, Pato!	This situation is getting more and more strange every day. What is the truth surrounding his "mystery" injury? I would really like some clear answers from Milan regarding this. We need Ronaldo if we should be able to win the Serie A, and I don't like it when things like these are played down.

10-09-2007, 10:47	#40
Debs Administrator Join Date: 03 1999 Location: Planet Earth Fave Players: Maldini......	This is the nightmare I feared when we signed Ronnie.....hate to say I told yo uso.... __________________ ...not your normal paranormal....

10-09-2007, 11:50	#42
drucurl Registered User Join Date: 08 2006 Location: Trinidad and Tobago Fave Players: Ronaldo Kaka Maldini Nesta Inzaghi Seedorf Pato	not to be a fanboy or anything but let's wait till the facts come out ...then even I will join in the bashing....at present though I am glad that he cares soooo much about playing and not sitting and making money.. it's something that you'd expect from gattuso __________________ Milan is a rose, love even the thorns. Last edited by drucurl; 10-09-2007 at 11:53.

10-09-2007, 12:19	#43
Warro Bantan Moderator Join Date: 08 1999 Location: Kingston, Jamaica Fave Players: Rui Costa, Pirlo, Pato	Well well well....what can I say....??? Milanlab are capable of a misdiagnosis once every "blue" moon...and Ronnie´s reaction to me, isnt all that bad...and in truth, its good that he went, as the injury is obviously more serious than first thought. Ok, so he is out for a month....maybe we can recall Oliveira? One last point: It seems Berlu is resigned to us playing with one out and out striker, hence the club´s decision not to go for another in the transfer window....Gila, R99, Pippo, and in Jan, Pato is way more than enough for a "single" striker formation. So, because of his injury, we have Pippo, and Gila "alone" until Oct? Hmmm...doesnt seem like the end of the world for me...it just means our midfield and defense will have to play very very very very well....and hopefully now Gorky will get a run...? __________________ I Love Milan.

10-09-2007, 12:21	#44
peters Registered User Join Date: 11 2004 Location: Slovenia	no point in asking questions now... lets just give him a month or 2 and hope he can come back fit and eager to play and score alot. He might be the 'thing' to secure 4th spot for us at the end of the season. (sarcasm, sarcasm...)

10-09-2007, 16:09	#45
rossomero Registered User Join Date: 08 2007 Location: athens greece	we are fans of the worlds biggest club and we have to stand in ours club lvl i believe ppl are involved with milans things are really experienced and classy and ronaldo is a big foottball phenomenon that is suitable for milans name and profile and i know if he come back and start to score you will forget all these stuffs give time to ppl knows better i believe that belru and galliani knows top class football managment better than everyone all the other stuffs are fornewspaper fun and cafeteria discussionsyou have to be sure that if ronaldo take it too far they will sent him off noone is bigger than the club and fans have to be cool other guys working for that