08-22-2012, 02:42 PM
(08-22-2012, 01:30 PM)sylrus Wrote: nainggolan is good indeed
if we can get him it would be good enough for this mercato
and nainggolan can bring lots of money to the team
he got an asian blood in him
lol, somehow I doubt Nainggolan is our ticket to the asian market
(08-22-2012, 01:19 PM)LebRN Wrote: I strongly agree on nainggolan but with the valuation being the problem I thought Gargano was the next best thing. Unfortunately, Gargano seems to already have signed for Inter so if we can pull off this guy and Kaka on loan then that would be a very good end to this mercato.
It really depends on what your valuation of Nainggolan is. I mean he's not exactly a household name and only Juve have shown any serious interest in him in the past. Personally, I can't see him being valued at more than 15m and even then I think we can lower that.
(08-22-2012, 01:31 PM)LebRN Wrote: Now we r linked to Ze Eduardo from .....Genoa
Anybody knows anything about this guy?
I saw that and it left me puzzled. I don't know much about him, but from what I've seen I can't think of any reason why we'd show any interest in the player.
(08-22-2012, 01:49 PM)Revolver Wrote: ACMILAN1983, I understand what you're saying, but Milan cannot succeed playing that kind of football.
We can draw parallel with Mourinho's Inter, after Ibrahimovic left.
Mourinho played mostly on counter and with quick attacks, but he had a super-strong defense, supported by the best defensive midfielder in the world and Inter had a certain variety that we can only dream of. For example, Maicon could set up 5-10 goals for season only from the side, even scoring five goals, Sneijder had better vision than all of our current roster combined, as he could break any defense in the world at any time, Eto'o could score from individual moves, etc, etc.
We have nothing, we do not have a single side player who can cross, except Emanuelson, and he's in form for 10 games every season, we do not have a single player who can unlock defense except Montolivo who mostly goes missing after 50 minutes of the game, our defense sucks, and most imporant: We do not have capable players to break up attacks constantly so we can make quick counters. Only Nocerino and Boateng are players with lungs and Nocerino is average in breaking up the play, while 80% of Boateng's tackles are fouls.
One other thing to remember, Inter won CL title by beating Bayern when Bayern was concentrated on defense. 80% of Serie A teams pack the bus in front of their box for 90 minutes, which means forget quick counter.
Agree, but what you're talking about is a team that won the treble and was by and all a very complete side, compared to us, a team that has lost it's biggest stars, as well as numerous key figures and is starting a new cycle in what must be one of the most drastic changes any major club in football history has undertaken.
My point is I'm not expecting us to play this brand of football to go out and win the CL. Truth is, we're currently a side that can look at aiming at a top 3 finish in the league and on paper we're not even one of the favourites to accomplish that.
What I am saying is we're a side that has to change our approach to games from being one the relies heavily on the individual qualities in our side to one which works strongly as a collective. While we won't be able to achieve the heights Inter did with this side, we can at least achieve a successful season (top 3 Serie A).
About your points on our weaknesses. Inter did have individuals which could turn a game around, which currently we don't have, but that doesn't mean our squad isn't better than the majority of Serie A. We're not Bologna, even if we're not a side aiming to win CL.
About a player who can break up play, I totally agree, we're lacking this. That's why I have repeatedly said about needing a good holding midfielder, with Nainggolan as my choice.
I don't agree only Boateng and Nocerino are players with lungs in our squad. The majority of our midfielders and fullbacks have good stamina. Also, one of the reasons I want Nainggolan is his workrate.
Finally, your point about the majority of Serie A parking the bus is both true and false imo. I think we saw last year that the mentality in Serie A is to play a much more open and attacking brand of football than in the past. Also, there are a number of teams that will resort to parking the bus, and this is where how we approach the game is key. First point is playing a high pressure game to have sustained periods of pressure against opponents. Secondly relies heavily on Allegri making changes to our approach to attack the weaknesses of opponents as well as stretch tight defences. Finally, I want to stress I never said I see us playing a counter attacking game, as I previously said we need to play quick attacking moves. This to me is more about timing our attacks and strictly controlling the tempo of our game more than it is about the transition from defence to attack as soon as we win the ball back.