Winter mercato 2024
(10-31-2023, 08:49 PM)Sampinjon Wrote: Just look at who we bought:
RLC, Pulisic - bad seasons behind them, team who targeted at least CL - ended 12th. both transfer listed because not good enough
Raindeer - mid Dutch team
Okafor - small league, yet to prove if he is capable of playing at top levels
Chukwueze - I know Villareal got Europe, so it's 5-8th, so they weren't underperforming but they didn't overperforming either
Musah - also from underperforming team
Jovic and rest I wont even elaborate.
All of them can turn out to be good, but for none of them there is no valid reason to believe they will. It's only let's hope.

Now, if our mercato looked like:
instead of two underperforming players from underperforming club we got two best players from team who overperformed or showed something in EPL, let's say Arsenal
if in Spain we bought goodies from Real, Barcelona or Atletico
if in Netherland we bought best player from PSV or other top team of theirs
etc... 
than Cardinale could come out and say, listen folks, I provided you top reinforcements, I expect title and something in CL. He would be right. No one could argue with it.
But to do that with those which he actually bought. It just doesn't sounds right to me.

I agree with this, we definitely signed Quantity over Quality... With the money we spent from Tonali's sale plus an additional 45m, we could've looked at signing maybe 2-3 players at most that would actually improve the team.. 

Here's the thing though. Who? It's easy to talk in hindsight but think about some of those players. Who wants to come to Serie A, to Milan? I know it's sad to say it but we don't have the same stock as EPL teams or PSG or Bayern anymore. Not Barca or Madrid surely either. 

Do you guys realize how far off we are from even a team like Atletico Madrid? We've been going further in CL than them, even having better odds of winning our respective league titles than them. You could say we are competitively at par or even achieved better the last couple years than they did. Here's the catch, from an attractive stand point for top players we are SO FAR off Atletico Madrid.

Have any of you actually taken the time to review what type of money we spend as a club? Our highest earners are Leao and Bennacer at around 7m euros gross... Do you guys want to see Atleticos top earners?

1) Jan Oblak 20,830,000 euros gross 
2) Koke 16,000,000 euros 
3) Morata 13,540,000 euros 
4) Carrasco 13,130,000 euros
5) Griezman 12,500,000 euros
6) Saul 12,000,000 euros

And the list goes on... The point is, I can't see Pioli getting sacked because he's part of managements plan that seems to be working for them. Consider the spend, we are tremendously overachieving compared to other clubs IMO. 
Even when compared to Inter their yearly wages are almost 30-40m euros more than ours. That's a solid 3-4 top top player wages. Calhanoglu almost gets paid double our best player (Leao) with around 11.5m gross compared to Leaos 7 million something.

End of the day, what I'm saying is we cant expect miracles. We're very financially healthy yes, but we also have to have realistic expectations with that. Top players these days don't care as much about our illustrious history as much as they care about the fact that we're a discount top team. We don't pay nearly as much as ANY of the other teams competing at our level and players + their agents know this surely. We simply aren't an attractive destination for top players, they want to get paid period. If we keep following this wage bill structure we'll need to groom our talent. Not many coaches will accept that Gasperini / Pioli role of taking over a club that needs grooming and selling to buy.
Honestly, I think the 'problem' of Milan now is the convincing results and play of our three first games in Serie A. It changed the mindset of fans. We were struggling in the summer preparation in the transforming the 4231 formation to 433 formation with so many additions. We have changed our midfield drastically. Many fans jeered RLC and doubt about Reijnders since they did not show the quality we always want. There was no confident feeling in facing Serie A. It was expected this team would need time to adapt to new formation especially with new players.
However, the games vs Torino, Bologna and Roma showed the quality of the team and specifically the form of Reijnders and RLC. The expectations rocketed to the sky. We were convinced that this team could make scudetto and qualify convincingly from the group of the death (2 wins against Newcastle, a win and a draw against Dortmund and at least two points against PSG).

This team still have same goal like previous seasons: top four in Serie A and catch big money from CL. Wake up!
"When Costacurta and Maldini won they didn't celebrate much. They were thinking about winning the next game" - Alessandro Nesta
We made such a stupid mistake loaning out Colombo and replacing him with Jovic. That decision alone will come back to haunt us at the end of the season because we basically have one reliable striker.
And what was the point of loaning out Gabbia to get a very raw Pellegrino?
Colombo with a double today. We really need him actually..
(11-05-2023, 02:52 PM)Bennacer Wrote: Colombo with a double today. We really need him actually..

Just bring him back in the winter...
I just dont think the managament has the trust in Colombo. Im pretty sure they will go for David in January.
Nah I don't think Colombo is right choice for now, he currently needs more time for accessment. The problem with Italian strikers is not skills or talent but consistency, none of Italian CFs be Colombo, Scamacca or Raspa or Pinamonti are consistent, after Immobile and Belotti(maybe), Italy are yet to produce a consistent CF
Forza Diavolo ale!!!
Loaning out Colombo wasnt a bad move, he needs playing time. He gets a lot of minutes at Monza. He will develop better there than with spare minutes here.
Lorenzo Colombo remains a very interesting profile, still very young. Especially for a striker. He mostly scores bangers, he also needs to score the more easy goals, wich is al about positiong and feeling (also ability offcourse), he can only become better at this with experience.
Give him one or 2 more years and he should get at least 15 goals a season. Hopefully he can get at least 10 this year. Which would be good for a 21yo
(11-05-2023, 04:10 PM)Sleeping Giant Wrote: Nah I don't think Colombo is right choice for now, he currently needs more time for accessment. The problem with Italian strikers is not skills or talent but consistency, none of Italian CFs be Colombo, Scamacca or Raspa or Pinamonti are consistent, after Immobile and Belotti(maybe), Italy are yet to produce a consistent CF

I don't think it's just Italy lately. Hard to find consistent strikers out there in general. Take out Haaland, Kane, Lautaro, M'bappe if you consider him a true striker rather than a winger/CF and there really aren't any others.. 
There's some gambles out there like Jonathan David, Darwin Nunez etc who have potential to be top strikers but as of right now they aren't bagging 20-30 goals. Openda even is a gamble tbh
Osimhen isn't even performing very well either.. same goals as Giroud and Giroud has 3 assists on top of that.

Regarding Colombo, he's never going to be Milan quality starting striker. Can forget about him.