Summer mercato 2012

[Acmir]

So Mesbah doesn't want to go to Torino, what should we do to ship his ass out of here? And I don't see suitors for Taiwo also :S

[BINHO]

- Cassano will probably leave, because if he shows the same attitude as at Euro (never even thinks to battle for any ball), Allegri will offload him just like Ronaldinho two years ago.

Ibrahimovic never battled for balls. As for Cassano, I agree with you (his fitness+attitude) sometimes is concerning, but he also can create goals time and time and time again. He would give a player like Dzeko plenty of chances to score.

If we wanted battlers throughout the team, we should have bought Maxi Lopez, Tevez, and play Flamini, Nocerino, Montolivo, and Boateng. But that team isn't good enough.

PS : If we were to end this summer with 6 new WC players, all on loan with an option to buy, who would care that the money wasn't re-invested ? Personnally, I wouldn't.

Nope I wouldn't either

[curki]

Just a picture how our wages look at the moment compared to last season... The data isn't official...

[k7r]

milan's new revolution ? younger squad ?

how about some young italians giuseppe rossi, poli, santon etc........these are the guys whom we should be after if we are really looking for a younger milan revolution. anybody have any news on these fellows...any rumours linking them to Milan?

i would also bet my money on someone like simone ganz, and philippe prosenik from primavera, i guess the latter has some chance making it into the final squad sooner that we think.......

[GeoTav]

milan's new revolution ? younger squad ?

how about some young italians giuseppe rossi, poli, santon etc........these are the guys whom we should be after if we are really looking for a younger milan revolution. anybody have any news on these fellows...any rumours linking them to Milan?

i would also bet my money on someone like simone ganz, and philippe prosenik from primavera, i guess the latter has some chance making it into the final squad sooner that we think.......

G.Rossi was recently linked with Napoli if I'm not wrong ...
No news from Santon.
Poli was linked with several clubs, including us.

[Acmir]

We moan about wages and we gave Ambrosini a new 1-year contract worth 3 million? And he earned more than Nesta, that's ridiculous.

[Beppe]

LEANDRO DAMIÃO isn’t going to Milan or anywhere else this summer, Internacional’s President claims.

The Rossoneri are looking for a striker to replace Zlatan Ibrahimovic and are exploring their options these days. One of these options is Sport Club Internacional’s 22-year-old highly-rated striker Leandro Damião.

Damião’s agent has already met with Adriano Galliani but negotiations have not started yet. However, Internacional’s President Giovanni Luigi says the Porto Alegre club has no intention of selling the player.


“There are no negotiations going about Damião. We’re not willing to sell the player,” Luigi is quoted as saying on Milannews.it on Friday. “Milan need to know that only we can make the transfer, and not his agent. We don’t intend to start any negotiations. Damião is not for sell, so it’s pointless to mention a price.”

The last operation Milan have done with Internacional was back in 2007 when they signed Alexandre Pato – 17-years-old at the time – for nearly €24 million. “We have a great relationship with Pato, and we’re sure that he’ll have a great career,” Luigi added of the Milan striker who’ll have a key role this year. “Pato returning to Internacional? No, now it’s absolutely unthinkable. Perhaps in the future. You never know.”

Internacional’s desire to keep the player leaves Milan with just two options now after Manchester City blocked Carlos Tevez and Edin Dzeko: Benfica’s Óscar Cardozo and Juventus’ man Alessandro Matri.

[curki]

We moan about wages and we gave Ambrosini a new 1-year contract worth 3 million? And he earned more than Nesta, that's ridiculous.

I think it's 1.5 million now, but not any reliable source mention it so I didn't change it

[ACMILAN1983]

Curki, thanks for the info, it's useful to see how much we've roughly saved (it's not official, but I think can't be too far from the truth). Also, I presume we can double the figures as those a net values, meaning rather than saving around 65m next year, we are probably looking at a value around 130m. Presumably that figure will drop when 1st September will come around.

Allegri should use these players more, he has only given them chances here an there, and mostly becouse of injuries. Italian coaches always play experienced players, its in their blood. They even prefer to play older players out of position instead of using a youngster. I'm sure none of these guys will get a REAL chance this season. Only El Shaarawy but thats becouse he costed us a lot of money so has to be used.

milan's new revolution ? younger squad ?

how about some young italians giuseppe rossi, poli, santon etc........these are the guys whom we should be after if we are really looking for a younger milan revolution. anybody have any news on these fellows...any rumours linking them to Milan?

i would also bet my money on someone like simone ganz, and philippe prosenik from primavera, i guess the latter has some chance making it into the final squad sooner that we think.......

I've not heard anything about Santon recently, but Rossi and more recently Poli have been linked to Milan (though nothing more than rumours as I'm aware).

You and Beppe also both touch on bringing youth into our squad and the lack of space for them to get game time. Personally, I think the biggest problem is we always have our core squad and then the youth in addition to that. Last season, it was a squad of around 30 and then we had guys like Merkel, Strasser and De Sciglio on top.

If I use De Sciglio as an example, let's just understand what this means. At RB, we had Abate and Bonera as backup, while at LB it was Antonini and Mesbah. Di Sciglio is lucky he can play both roles, but he still always needs to hope that both the starter and the backup are unavailable for him to play. While this was a possibility last season due to the injury crisis, normally the chances of a third choice player getting enough playtime to break through is minimal to say the least. Actually, I only remember Abbiati breaking through in this way back in 1999, when Lehmann and Rossi had freak situations which gave Abbiati a chance in the first team.

The first point of business if we're to bring youth through is to change our squad make up. At the start of the mercato, Galliani said we'd have a squad of 25-26 with 1-2 youth players as well, meaning our squad will have 27-28 players. That means we'll have a first team, a backup team, then a few additional "utility" players for rotation or emergencies and then finally the youth players. In that situation, the youth players will pretty much never play. There's no point in this as they'll never develop and be ready to take on responsibility in our squad. What we need to do is make youth players a part of the 25-26 man squad, not an addition to it. They shouldn't be 3rd of 4th choice backups, they should be 2nd or third, meaning Bonera shouldn't be backup to Abate, but De Sciglio should.

The next problem is related to youth being given space in the first team squad. This in my view should be a system we implement on a yearly basis in the short term. Barcelona, who in many ways have proven to be an example to follow, in recent years have been averaging about 1 new youth addition to the squad a year. It began with Messi, then Busquets, then Pedro and now Tello. We should be aiming to achieve something similar and should be pushing 1-2 youth players to the first team squad every year (our youth isn't lacking quality to make this unrealistic). If these players come into the squad and can't take on the responsibility of being a first team player or immediate backup, then we've failed and the company must take action to prevent this happening. However, it's the same as BS transfers like Mesbah, whereby a mistake must be rectified, only it doesn't come with a transfer cost and encourages us to invest in more valuable assets to the club (our youth development program) rather than simply looking for short term fixes with new players being bought.

In addition to this, I think we need a review procedure in place for each youth player we have at the club. Players should fall within set categories to help us judge their value to the club. This imo would be something like:

1) Players we view integral to the club's future and therefore need space in the first team squad immediately (i.e. we're prepared to sacrifice someone else to give them a spot). For example, this would be a Pato or El Shaarawy type player.

2) Those who are good enough for the first team squad and can fill a gap in a role we need to fill. These players would fall into the scenario I discussed above, being the player who we promote to the first team squad. For example De Sciglio.

3) Those who are good enough for the first team squad or have the potential to play a valuable role in the club in the future, but there's no room for them at the present time. These players would go into co-ownership deals or out on loan. For example Simone calvano or Rodrigo Ely.

4) Players who have no foreseeable future at Milan. These players should be sold immediately. For example, Oduamadi imo will fall into this category.

The idea is we should cultivate growth of young players at Milan, without it affecting our competiveness as a team (e.g. Arsenal). Those at the club will get opportunities to play at the highest senior level and gain experience quickly without shouldering unnecessary responsibility, meaning they're ready to take on first team duties more quickly. Others would get senior level experience outside of the club to hopefully come back to Milan in the future and play a role at the club then, a bit like Abate has done.

[LebRN]

Regarding De Sciglio, I think that was the case at the beginning of last season but not towards the end when Bonera was available but Allegri still chose De Sciglio whenever he needed to go to the bench. I believe he will be 1st sub at RB next season