07-19-2014, 09:24 AM
(This post was last modified: 07-19-2014, 09:32 AM by Kastriot.)
The club has clearly taken a different approach with Balo. Something of a good cop bad cop or carrot and stick approach if you want.
Until now we were trying to glorify him so he feels wanted and most of all needed, hoping he would will find that motivating. All the declarations in the media from the club`s official were in the same line, Balo is an immense talent and can become the leader of this Milan, simply he was indispensable to the team. I think Italy and Prandelli were in the same line.
What all the club and us the fans were believing/hoping is that he wants to change and fulfill his potential. All these "commodities" that are thrown to him will make him grateful and somehow he would return us the favor by becoming the player we paid him to be. There was one flaw in this plan. Balloteli is plain stupid. Period.
Now we are giving him the stick. First it was Silvio with the very strong statement that no one is interested to buy him, and he cost him 30 mil after the terrible WC. Now we are giving him away for peanuts ( 14 mil ). If someone bits to the offer fine, he is gone. If no one gets him, then we have minimized him to the point that he has no choice anymore. He is not indispensable anymore, if you want to play you have to give everything. The alternative is the bench until January and then maybe Guangzhou, MLS or some Qatar team will want to get him of our hands.
If he doesn't take this seriously he will simple fade away (Adriano anyone??)
Edit:
I just read an article on milannews.it. It is in line with what I am saying and what the club has been saying the past weeks. Bonera is saying that Balo needs to comeback for the rights reasons, this is a group with rules and he has to accept them on and of the field. He also says that he will have to make himself available to the team if he wants to succeed.
http://www.milannews.it/rassegna-stampa/...lli-150298
@Nefremo
I agree about him being disruptive of the team atmosphere and chemistry, but that was only because he was considered the best in the team and all of our hopes were lining towards him. He was important and he was exploiting that. An unimportant bench player can not be as influential.
No ho visto Superman volare, ma ho visto Super Pippo segnare. I supereroi esistono davvero.
Kastriot I disagree an unimportant bench player (getting paid 4m net a year?) is not as influential. The disruption and difficulty he could cause in the dressing room and training would still lead to disruptions in the squad.
Apparently in congratulating Allegri's new job, he asked if Juve had space. Allegri apparently didn't answer...
http://www.milannews.it/primo-piano/tutt...uve-150303
07-19-2014, 09:54 AM
(This post was last modified: 07-19-2014, 09:55 AM by Kastriot.)
(07-19-2014, 09:28 AM)ACMILAN1983 Wrote: Kastriot I disagree an unimportant bench player (getting paid 4m net a year?) is not as influential. The disruption and difficulty he could cause in the dressing room and training would still lead to disruptions in the squad.
An important player who is your leading player on the pitch, to whom you have based all your strategy can be a disruptive player to your team when he fails to conduct.
An unimportant player who sits on the bench can go on the stands and at home and no one will care, if you have El Sharaway being your leading man on the pitch and you have based your strategy around him.
Robinho and Mexes have 4 mil per year salaries, both at one moment were on top of the world. Could they be as disruptive as Balo? I think not, simply because they were replaceable inside the team. When you give Balo the replacable tag, he will not be as influential.
Kaka is another example, he was surrounded by great player in the past and still was our most influential player in 2007, simple because we were basing our play to him. Last season, surrounded by average players he still could not impose himself because other players were more important on the pitch. (read Balo)
No ho visto Superman volare, ma ho visto Super Pippo segnare. I supereroi esistono davvero.
07-19-2014, 10:30 AM
(This post was last modified: 07-19-2014, 10:31 AM by ACMILAN1983.)
(07-19-2014, 09:54 AM)Kastriot Wrote: An important player who is your leading player on the pitch, to whom you have based all your strategy can be a disruptive player to your team when he fails to conduct.
An unimportant player who sits on the bench can go on the stands and at home and no one will care, if you have El Sharaway being your leading man on the pitch and you have based your strategy around him.
Robinho and Mexes have 4 mil per year salaries, both at one moment were on top of the world. Could they be as disruptive as Balo? I think not, simply because they were replaceable inside the team. When you give Balo the replacable tag, he will not be as influential.
Kaka is another example, he was surrounded by great player in the past and still was our most influential player in 2007, simple because we were basing our play to him. Last season, surrounded by average players he still could not impose himself because other players were more important on the pitch. (read Balo)
What you are talking about is influence on the pitch, which is fine, but more than that these guys will still influence in other areas. Robinho and Mexes (examples you've cited) have generally been part of the problem in our recent downfall (Mexes less so in training). They've had moments where they've had a positive influence on the pitch, but at other times their temperament and lack of application from a professional standpoint has been negative in influencing the group. I think of Robinho especially, who I specifically remember decided to start playing music and dancing around with KPB (hardly a beacon of professionalism himself) during athletic training, when in reality it's important players are focused during the training, as they need to aim to push themselves.
Another example is Robinho was messing about in training a couple of years ago and got told off by Pippo (who was still playing then) for his poor attitude. This sort of stuff causes disruption in the harmony of the group and sets a bad example for the younger players coming through.
Whether or not he's important in the side, a player (Balo especially given his history) can still cause a lot of friction in the group if he's not prepared to behave appropriately.
If we can't sell him than there is only one thing that has to be done.
Like I said, If Balo doesn't follow the rules on the field and off it...then he needs to be on the bench, even on the stands. Pippo will gain SO MUCH respect from the rest of the team if he does that. On the other hand..I'm sure he will lose so much respect if he doesn't follow up on his words about "hard work, not giving up, following rules, etc".
If he is disruptive in training, then just send him home. Yes, very simple...treat him like a little kid on training field and just send him out for the day. Fine him if you have to.
07-19-2014, 03:27 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-19-2014, 04:00 PM by Mystik.)
*wrong topic*
Siamo a posto cosi.
(07-19-2014, 12:43 PM)nefremo Wrote: If we can't sell him than there is only one thing that has to be done.
Like I said, If Balo doesn't follow the rules on the field and off it...then he needs to be on the bench, even on the stands. Pippo will gain SO MUCH respect from the rest of the team if he does that. On the other hand..I'm sure he will lose so much respect if he doesn't follow up on his words about "hard work, not giving up, following rules, etc".
If he is disruptive in training, then just send him home. Yes, very simple...treat him like a little kid on training field and just send him out for the day. Fine him if you have to.
I wholeheartedly agree.
When I first heard Pippo say this in the press conference I was quite skeptical, thinking it was a BS statement. But in line with what you guys have discussed above, it looks like B&G are taking a new approach with him. Either it gets to him (I have my doubts), or we get rid of him one way or another.
07-21-2014, 06:07 AM
(This post was last modified: 07-21-2014, 06:08 AM by xudong.)
dafuq?  but then again, Milan does have the tradition of selling the future captain.
Quote:Sunday July 20 2014
Balotelli: Arsenal or Milan captain?
By Football Italia staff
While English media claim Arsenal offer €20m for Mario Balotelli, Italian sources suggest he can be Milan captain.
SuperMario’s future remains in the balance after a poor World Cup campaign and off the field antics, including posting a picture of himself on Twitter pointing a gun at ‘haters.’
According to Caught Offside and The Mirror, Arsenal are renewing their attempts to sign Balotelli.
The figures quoted are £15.8m (€20m) plus wages worth £160,000 per week (around €10m per season).
However, today the Corriere dello Sport maintains Milan should give the captain’s armband to Balotelli.
Current captain Riccardo Montolivo is out until October with a fractured leg, so the gesture from new Coach Pippo Inzaghi would put more responsibility on the 24-year-old’s shoulders.
Balotelli has always confessed to being a Milan supporter, even when he was playing for their arch rivals Inter.
http://www.football-italia.net/52375/bal...an-captain
lmao, Balotelli captain!? That's worse than Seedorf's decision to make Mexes captain for a match.
(07-21-2014, 09:50 AM)ACMILAN1983 Wrote: lmao, Balotelli captain!? That's worse than Seedorf's decision to make Mexes captain for a match.
That was exactly what I thought too when I read the news!
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