08-17-2015, 04:03 PM
They will not offload Honda- the man's image rights bring in a lot of money. You can't say that about any of our other players. Montolivo? I'd take Soriano over him for sure, but will they rid of the Captain?
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08-17-2015, 04:03 PM
They will not offload Honda- the man's image rights bring in a lot of money. You can't say that about any of our other players. Montolivo? I'd take Soriano over him for sure, but will they rid of the Captain?
08-17-2015, 04:06 PM
(08-17-2015, 04:03 PM)somedevil Wrote: They will not offload Honda- the man's image rights bring in a lot of money. You can't say that about any of our other players. Montolivo? I'd take Soriano over him for sure, but will they rid of the Captain? That rumor is pure BS. If there's any 'safe' players now, they will be Honda and Montolivo, for the exact reasons you mentioned. One sells shirts, the other is captain.
MILAN! MILAN! SOLO CON TE!
MILAN! MILAN! SEMPRE PER TE!
If regaining his form and confidence, Montolivo will be a useful player again, preferably as a squad player.
But as Milan captain? SELL SELL SELLAnyone knows his contractual status?
08-17-2015, 04:43 PM
Guys, come on! What's with the immage rights....
We can't hold on to players because of immage rights alone. If that was the case we should've never gotten rid of Ronaldinho and Beckham! If this is the only reason some of you want Hinda to stay then I disagree completely. Besides, how much commercial revenue does he actually bring? I can't see it as astronomical. What is it? 3,4,5mil a year? It's chunk change. And I'm sure he has retained quite a bit of those immage rights anyway and nets a pretty healthy profit himself. Sure we got a couple of sponsors in Japan because of him but these are minor. For me, Honda is expendable. His performances on the field haven't proven otherwise. I wouldn't care if he stays as he can be useful...but if he is replaced by a more capable player then I'd go for it right away.
08-17-2015, 06:47 PM
(08-17-2015, 04:43 PM)nefremo Wrote: Besides, how much commercial revenue does he actually bring? I can't see it as astronomical. What is it? 3,4,5mil a year? It's chunk change. And I'm sure he has retained quite a bit of those immage rights anyway and nets a pretty healthy profit himself. Sure we got a couple of sponsors in Japan because of him but these are minor. Nefremo, I posted a link in the financial thread- Our books aren't as clean as was thought earlier. Honda does bring in quite a lot of money (for a team in our state) and with Bee wanting to capture the Asian market his presence makes sense. Besides can you imagine the level of commercial and consumer Interest from Asia when we are actually doing well?
The commercial and consumer interest will blow up anyhow IF we do well. Honda or not! Winning and entertaining is the best way to market yourself. Players do help, but they are not everything. I can promise you that if Honda is replaced with someone of higher quality and we end up winning the league plus be a force in the CL next year.....our commercial revenue will grow a lot more then if we keep Honda and stay as we are. Not saying we can't win with Honda, but his performances on the field the last year and a half have been far from good, let alone impressive. I maintain, it's a mistake to keep a player JUST for commercial value.
To reiterate my stance though before it gets out of hand.....I'm not looking for us to get rid of Honda. He CAN be useful. But if there is an interested party with an offer on the table, while also the opportunity to replace him in the squad with a better player......I would do it right away. And by the way, here is a quote from the summary of the link you posted:"Lastly, it’s worth mentioning Keisuke Honda. A lot was made at the time of his arrival of the commercial impact he could have on the club in Asia. Milan listed €1.35m worth of income from an ‘international partner’ for Honda’s image rights in Japan. Milan signed deals with two Japanese partners in 2014 – Toyo Tire and Rubber Company, and Fujitsu – off the back of Honda coming to the club, so the figure will refer to one of them. La Gazzetta dello Sport thought the Fujitsu deal was worth €3m over the two years, equating to €1.5m per season. This is not far off the €1.35m the accounts stated, so it could well be Fujitsu." Like I said, we are talking about figures that are not so high. Sure they help, but let's not joke around, 1.5 or 2 or 3 or 5 mil is not going to take us anywhere. You said that he brings "quite a lot of money", but according to the report you posted, this is not quite a lot of money. In the grand scheme of things, we need great players and a winning team a lot more then a marketing puppet that brings a couple of mil euros a year. So if there is the opportunity to move towards having a better team at the expense of Honda, then I'm all for it. Honda has been average here and the only thing giving me some confidence that he'll do better this year is the fact that he will be used in his preffered role. But if this doesn't work too, then I don't get what's the point of keeping him here.
08-17-2015, 07:05 PM
There are (tabloid) rumours in England that Ibrahimovic have been told he can leave PSG in a cut-price deal. Media also saying that both Manchester United and Arsenal are looking for a top striker. English tabloids... Naah...
08-17-2015, 07:09 PM
(08-17-2015, 12:58 PM)ACMILAN1983 Wrote: I'm really confused on seeing the news. On the one hand, I see there might be a push to get Witsel, on the other, Galliani is apparently trying to persuade Silvio to sign a midfielder, as Silvio's not convinced and doesn't want to spend 10m, partly because the club's already got a full roster of midfielders and none want to leave. From what I read, Berlu is not convinced to sign Soriano because he thinks Soriano is nothing but a rotational player in the midfield, and we already have enough of those. He seems to think Witsel is a player with superior quality and would be willing to invest in him to improve the quality of the team. I am sure you don't agree with that line of thinking lol, but that's what Berlu is going by. It's actually good news if you ask me that Berlu is interested in investing in quality instead of quantity. We might not agree with his evaluation of quality, but the strategy is at least on point. Read another rumor linking us to Illaramendi from Real Madrid. Solid signing if we can get him. All around midfielder who can play the ball and has defensive tenacity, and he won't cost a fortune to sign.
08-17-2015, 08:00 PM
If Berlusconi truly is interested in quality, he should splash out some serious cash on Isco.
Illaramendi should upgrade our midfield, but he won't be a huge deal. I remember Ancelotti not trusting him at all, and that has to mean something.
08-17-2015, 10:12 PM
copied and pasted from another forum on Witsel.
Quote:Witsel's intermediary: "We will meet with Milan on August 24-25 in Taormina to understand their intentions." |
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