07-04-2011, 02:57 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-04-2011, 03:01 PM by ZvonimirBoban.)
(07-04-2011, 01:36 PM)will4li Wrote: (07-04-2011, 07:54 AM)ZvonimirBoban Wrote: Our opponent are NOT barca and real, dude. How many times should it be stated here? Your obsession with farca aren't healthy, really, same as Mourinho and Madrid's obsession only to beat them. Besides, I REALLY hate when we build team specifically designed to beat one or two certain teams... Look at Mou and Madrid's obsession to farca, that's disgusting, really. It's like admitting that you can't beat them with your own system so you should design a special system. Even if that's right, that's completely pointless... But in Madrid's case, it actually makes more sense because they're in same league and cup. But us? We already got Inter, Juve, Roma, Napoli, Palermo, Udinese, Lazio, Fiorentina et.al. to worry about... Design team to win Serie A AND UCL, whoever the opponent is... that is true world class team... Look at Barca, they DON'T design team to beat Real or ManUtd, they simply design team to WIN against anyone and they did it very well...
And Bale... face it dude, Bale isn't THAT world class... we don't play strict wingers, if he has to join us he should take defensive duty too, how many times I (and others) should tell you... Next time you want to post about Bale, well I can't prohibit you to do it, but at least consider my arguments before you do that.
We don't need to worry about serie-A,we are the defending champion,Inter and juventus should worry,not us.
If you can beat barca, you can win CL,simple as that.with pastore and bale,we don't need to invest big money on midfield,why not them if you have the budget for hamsik(napoli ask 40 million for him,right?) and ganso(25million).with pastore and bale,we are designing a system to win against anyone,not anyone but farca.with pastore and bale,we can maximally maintain allegri's solid defence system which is the key to our success last season.
Your obsession with our no wingers allowed formation and cassano are not healthy,buddy! bale 100% tracks back better than cassno.I will bet big money on that.
Next time you want to post about no strict wingers, well I can't prohibit you to do it, but at least consider my arguments before you do that. Stop copying my words because it's annoying, especially when you looked like ridiculous when posting it. Not funny at all.
Allegri's formations, not MINE, decided no pure wingers allowed. Now you call our coach unhealthy... I wonder who's really unhealthy here. Now stop talking like clueless 13-year old and start giving some valid arguments.
1. Okay IF we beat barca... but how can actually we are able to even face Barca? We have to win the group first! Please come with system ready to face any club.
2. Cassano is not winger, he's striker. You understand the difference between winger, striker, and midfielder, right?... Bale at least should work defensively as hard as Urby, Flamini, Boateng if he is to stay in our LCM spot. Know what is LCM in our system? Or need I explain to you?
3. Say that to the defending champions for last season, Inter. Titles could be won by any club, man. Winning it last season doesn't automatically mean we definitely will win it again this season.
And I sincerely want to know, what formation do you suggest to include Bale in our team, and how should Bale fit there?
Oh, about Pastore, I actually won't mind him here, he's quality player but not for 50M. 25M and it'll be good, 30M fine, but I don't want us to be bullied by that asshole Zamparini in terms of his transfer amount. If we can't get him, Hamsik and Ganso are on same level with him, I won't mind if one of those tree joins us.
MILAN! MILAN! SOLO CON TE!
MILAN! MILAN! SEMPRE PER TE!
07-04-2011, 03:20 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-04-2011, 03:24 PM by will4li.)
Our current system can win group stage enough!buddy.we just keep our system and put pastore,bale into first 11 instead of imbra and robiho.that's just like a duplication of real's lineup,I think the quality is the same too. I also suggest cassano for montolivo, we need fresh legs to replace seedorf.and hopefully secure kucka for van bommel next year.
abbiati
abate nesta t silva taiwo
boateng van/bommel seedorf
pastore pato bale
May god with chinese footbball
07-04-2011, 03:37 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-04-2011, 04:24 PM by Gabriel426.)
Honestly, I still don't understand why Zamp would want to sell Pastore or any other player to Milan without an inflating price as he hates Berlu and Galli like how we hate Inter. As I said many times on these forms as long as the player is from Palermo, he will not transfer directly to Milan unless Milan pays a high ransom.
Barca is the best team in football period. And it is only natural for any teams to. Build a team that could beat them, like the old saying, if you want to be the best, you got to beat the best.
Personally, I see Bale as a very talent LM,but to me he is just like Valencia at ManU. As both uses their speed and power to pass through FBs, their diff isBale got a hat trick against Inter inCL while Valencia did not. If Milan is to sign someone like Bale, I would suggest getting Vargas instead as he is cheaper and is actually just a little bit behind or as good as Bale. But that would mean Urby leaving Milan.
Dev, as much as I like discussing with you, I think we should just stop at the weak and strong league debate as well as thebetter half of Milan season bc it is going nowhere and let's just discuss transfer.
What's wrong with Melo? He is still better than Lucas of Pool.
Since it is still very quiet, I think I will run up what I think about those potential transfers.
Ganso, to me he will be one of the best number 10 and despite e fact that he is not super fast, he is very mobile and do can play both ways.
Hamsik, is the model of a modern AM, someone who is physically strong with great skills. Having said that I don't think he is the true super star/game changer type of players, as he is more like Robin than Batman. He needs someone to shine to make him look good instead of the other way around. Not saying he is not talented bu he lacks that aura to be the superstar.
Hernanes, is in my opinion the best CM in football today, yes I rate him higher than Essien, Xavi, Cesc, De Rossi.... What makes him separate from the rest is the fact that he makes everyone around him a better player and he is a game changing superstar. Just look at what he done to Milan twice last season.
Pastore, just forget about him, as he plays for Palermo.
Honda, he does everything well with great work rate, and will be a great compliment to the current Milan team. He can also play as a striker with good effect. He might not be as good as Pastore, Hernanes, Ganso and Hamsik, but I think he can settle into Milan quicker than any of them. Another bonus is his appeal in Asia market.
Inler, although a solid player but beside depth, I don't see how much he can add to the team.
Asamoch, he will add more than Inler but if Milan is to sign someone like Ganso or Hamsik, he will just be another depth signing.
Marchiso, he is good but I have not seen enough great things from him.
Montolivo, same as Marchiso.
Sandro, he will be a beast, but unless Milan sell two of Ambro, Gattuso, Flamini and MVB, he is not needed at the moment.
Zapata would be a great addition, problem is where would he play? Hopefully, if Milan is t sign him, they should let him stay at Udinese for another season before coming to Milan.
My hope is for Milan to sign Hernanes and Ganso, if budget allows, also sign Honda as the ultimate sub for midfield. While release Slowdorf, Urby and Flamini. That way the starting midfield would be Boateng, MVB, Hernanes and Ganso with a bench of Gattuso, Ambro and Honda. As both Hernanes and Honda can play all four of the midfield roles with good effect, while Gattuso, Ambro and MVB pretty much covers all the defensive roles in the midfield.
i dont know if its true, but i remember that i read Palermo owns Pastore's only half, while an agent owns other half.
07-04-2011, 05:11 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-04-2011, 05:39 PM by ZvonimirBoban.)
(07-04-2011, 03:20 PM)will4li Wrote: Our current system can win group stage enough!buddy.we just keep our system and put pastore,bale into first 11 instead of imbra and robiho.that's just like a duplication of real's lineup,I think the quality is the same too. I also suggest cassano for montolivo, we need fresh legs to replace seedorf.and hopefully secure kucka for van bommel next year.
abbiati
abate nesta t silva taiwo
boateng van/bommel seedorf
pastore pato bale
that's named: changing our system. you understand how our current system works? to change our current system to your proposal, it's not just substituting ibra and robinho for the two you propose... it's changing our entire formation.
because we play
ACM
Pato/Robinho - Ibra
not
Robinho - Pato - Ibra
therefore our discussion is pointless as you look like have no clue about how Allegri's formation in last season works.
(07-04-2011, 03:37 PM)Gabriel426 Wrote: Personally, I see Bale as a very talent LM,but to me he is just like Valencia at ManU. As both uses their speed and power to pass through FBs, their diff isBale got a hat trick against Inter inCL while Valencia did not. If Milan is to sign someone like Bale, I would suggest getting Vargas instead as he is cheaper and is actually just a little bit behind or as good as Bale. But that would mean Urby leaving Milan.
Exactly why I dislike overhyped players like him. Agree with everything you say here.
Quote:Ganso, to me he will be one of the best number 10 and despite e fact that he is not super fast, he is very mobile and do can play both ways.
Hamsik, is the model of a modern AM, someone who is physically strong with great skills. Having said that I don't think he is the true super star/game changer type of players, as he is more like Robin than Batman. He needs someone to shine to make him look good instead of the other way around. Not saying he is not talented bu he lacks that aura to be the superstar.
Agree about Ganso... Hamsik needs Cavani and Lavezzi to shine in Napoli, he'll get better replacement in Pato and Ibra if he is to move to Milan. Surprisingly agree about everyone else, from Hernanes to Zapata.
(07-04-2011, 04:58 PM)abbeyleemania Wrote: i dont know if its true, but i remember that i read Palermo owns Pastore's only half, while an agent owns other half.
Zamparini may said that Pastore is worth 100M, so we could buy 50M from him and even if the agent sells him for free (which is impossible) we will still have to pay at least 50M. Believe me guy, no way Pastore's coming from Palermo when that asshole still lives and still in charge of Palermo.
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MILAN! MILAN! SEMPRE PER TE!
(07-04-2011, 03:37 PM)Gabriel426 Wrote: Dev, as much as I like discussing with you, I think we should just stop at the weak and strong league debate as well as thebetter half of Milan season bc it is going nowhere and let's just discuss transfer.
Yeah, fair point, plus I'm just having fun reading this argument between ZvominirBoban and will4li
A good news: Novak Djokovic is a Milan fan
When Milan had a training camp in Dubai back in the winter break, Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Nole met and the Serbian told Ibra that he will win the next edition of Wimbledon and Milan will be the Champions of Italy.
Now after everything he said became reality, Djokovic said: “We must repeat the meeting with Ibra and Milan because I want to replicate my success and Milan must win the Champions League. This is my wish!”
http://www.rossoneriblog.com/2011/07/04/...ns-league/
A little off topic here, but what the heck. Its summer and our market is a bit stagnant right now.
Merda's sins are coming back to haunt them?
http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/201...calciopoli-
We got the young 'un's. We take out big gunz
zvonimir ... you pretty much disagreed with everything i said and i dont know how u found time to write that long of a post, it's simply my opinion you dont have to try proving me wrong, because i can come up with an arguement for everything u said.... Bales not THAT world class? Wasn't maicon the best RB in the world? Bale pretty much made maicon look like a school girl when they played, not to mention the other half of their team, every game bale played in he was dangerous, against real what happened to modric and all those other players they have, when it came to the bottom of it their wingers were the only players making anything out of that game .. I'm not saying we ahve to play with wings but bale used to be a defender, he's good at tracking back as well, LM would suit him.. And pastore is a great player, 40 million i said that simply because it's the only reasonable price i think zamp would never go lower then 40, hes asking for 50 and hes pretty ffirm on that plus its not like he wont find a club to pay 50million ffor him anyways because alot of clubs would... I'm not saying we have to spend crazy money but these are players that in my opinion we need.
and btw half your posts i read are always offending people calm the fuk down bro ur talking over a forum and you use comparisons like gilardino as someone who failed with us, why dont you look at all the south american talents straight out of south america that failed????? gilardino was good at scoring goals, he wasn't a complete failure, he just didn't score as much as we expected.. maybe i was wrong to say id rather a player with european experience, but like i said AGAIN it was an opinion, u didnt have to go through all that.
07-05-2011, 02:41 AM
(This post was last modified: 07-05-2011, 02:45 AM by will4li.)
(07-04-2011, 05:11 PM)ZvonimirBoban Wrote: (07-04-2011, 03:20 PM)will4li Wrote: Our current system can win group stage enough!buddy.we just keep our system and put pastore,bale into first 11 instead of imbra and robiho.that's just like a duplication of real's lineup,I think the quality is the same too. I also suggest cassano for montolivo, we need fresh legs to replace seedorf.and hopefully secure kucka for van bommel next year.
abbiati
abate nesta t silva taiwo
boateng van/bommel seedorf
pastore pato bale
that's named: changing our system. you understand how our current system works? to change our current system to your proposal, it's not just substituting ibra and robinho for the two you propose... it's changing our entire formation.
because we play
ACM
Pato/Robinho - Ibra
not
Robinho - Pato - Ibra
therefore our discussion is pointless as you look like have no clue about how Allegri's formation in last season work
Ok,since allegri's formation is so unbelievebly rigid in your eyes, I would change my frontline to like this,
pastore(acm)
pato bale
not the original
pastore pato bale
Next time,I'd better pay extra attention to any single spelling in my post.
May god with chinese footbball
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