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Lombardia
04-04-2004, 15:38
To all hockey fans
I know that there are a few hockey fans out there and as the playoffs are fast approaching so i wanna know how you think your teams are gonna do.
Billy_Montreal
04-04-2004, 22:21
Lombardia..
My team it goes without saying is the Montreal Canadiens...aka the HABS...as they already made the playoffs I can predict:
Win the first round..maybe the second and loss to the weakest team they face..happens every year! When they make it !:rolleyes:
Lombardia
05-04-2004, 06:18
the playoffs are as follows:
the west
(1)detroit v (8) nashville
pred detroit easily
(2) san jose v (7) st louis
st louis in 7
(3)vancouver v (6) calgary
vancouver in 6
(4)colordao v (5) dallas
tie of the round colorado in 7
the east
(1) tampa bay v (8)NY islanders
tampa bay in 5
(2)boston v montreal(7)
montreal in 6. (billy is never wrong)
(3)philadelphia v (6)new jersey
i have no idea prob new jersey in 7
(4)toronto v (5) ottawa
expect fireworks i think these teams hate each other. ottawa in 6.
wtf, Toronto vs. Ottawa it makes me to feel like a sh*t aaaaaah my two best teams in first round :mad: :depress: :(
fuk fuk fuk
that really sux:depress:
Billy_Montreal
07-04-2004, 10:56
Rae..you can't like both teams!!!! :D Its like being a fan of Milan AND Inter or Milan AND Juve...
Personally I always had an affinity for Ottawa as I lived there a few years.
As for the Habs..they seeded 8th open up the series in Boston (seeded 1st) ..watch the Habs shock the hockey world and win like they did two years ago. Watch Jose Theodore show everyone why the Canadiens signed him to the "big bucks"!
Go Habs Go!
Rezag...I love your avatar buddy.
Lombardia..how does an Italian in England become a hockey fan?!!
Lombardia
07-04-2004, 10:59
one computer game:
nhl 95.
followed hockey since.
Found my avatar at a Habs site
All I can say is GO HABS GO, Boston are definitely beatable and I heard a Nick Boynton interview and he had something to say about the Habs players that made me think the Bruins are a nervous team ;)
Billy_Montreal
07-04-2004, 11:06
The city is getting into HABS MODE as usual...habs banners everywhere...
if only the city would get into Expos mode once in while!:(
Theo is not talking much which is usually a good sign..hopefully Kovalev explodes...coupled with Saku and Zednik playoff tear and the surprises like Ryder and Ribiero this team may surprise some.
Lombardia: Still a Rangers fan?...condolences ;) :tong:
Lombardia
07-04-2004, 11:10
we'll be back... eventually...maybe not next year, or next 10 years, heck maybe not even in my lifetime but.....eventually, hopefully!!:D
Billy_Montreal
07-04-2004, 11:12
A friend of mine (Rangers fan) put it best when he called the Rangers "Inter" of the NHL :D
Originally posted by AcMilan_Montreal
A friend of mine (Rangers fan) put it best when he called the Rangers "Inter" of the NHL :D
Thats the Leafs:tong:
Lombardia
08-04-2004, 06:33
NHL Results
Boston 3-0 Montreal
Vancouver 5-3 Calgary
Detroit 3-1 Nashville
Colorado 3-1 Dallas
billy this was not your day.:( :(
Lombardia
09-04-2004, 05:35
latest playoff results
Tampa Bay 3-0 NY Islanders :D
Philadelphia 3-2 New Jersey:D
Toronto 2-4 Ottawa
San Jose 1-0 St. Louis
Lombardia
09-04-2004, 05:39
Originally posted by AcMilan_Montreal
A friend of mine (Rangers fan) put it best when he called the Rangers "Inter" of the NHL :D
montreal your friend is horribly, hideously and completely and utterly wrong. no team of mine will ever be associated with the perdenti.
:D
XZeRo3003
09-04-2004, 06:27
Well, I like watching Hockey, although I do not follow it too much. My team is definitely the SJ Sharks, as they are my local SF Bay Area team, and I can go watch they as I wish. But from what I hear, they are $hitty this year, is this true?
I also have sympathy for Detroit
Lombardia
09-04-2004, 07:01
Originally posted by XZeRo3003
Well, I like watching Hockey, although I do not follow it too much. My team is definitely the SJ Sharks, as they are my local SF Bay Area team, and I can go watch they as I wish. But from what I hear, they are $hitty this year, is this true?
I also have sympathy for Detroit
nope. the sharks have had an amazing year. they finished 2nd in the west beating the likes of colorado, dallas, vancouver and st louis in the standings. you are dark horses for the stanley cup.
Billy_Montreal
09-04-2004, 10:35
Watch the Habs beat Boston tomorrow night when Theodore gets some help from his team! :nervous:
These two away games could kill the Habs as they only come back to MOntreal after game 2.
GO SENS GO! Ottawa beat Toronto !:nasty:
Lombardia
10-04-2004, 07:38
boston 2-1 montreal
(boston lead 2-0)
billy whats going on mate? the habs are letting us down.
vancouver 1-2 calgary
(series tied 1-1)
colorado 5-2 dallas
(colorado 2-0 up)
Billy_Montreal
10-04-2004, 12:00
Major problems with the Habs:
Brisebois scores :confused:
Saku misses a great chance.
Souray getting man handled.
Kovalev not hitting a stride.
Ryder and Ribiero invisible.
Bad news.
I will be at the next game..if I decide to go.
Lombardia
11-04-2004, 03:50
Tampa Bay 0-3 NY Islanders
Series tied 1-1
Phildaelphia 3-2 New Jersey
2-0 to philadelphia
Toronto 2-0 Ottawa
tied 1-1
Detroit 2-1 Nashvilee
Detroit 2-0 up
San Jose 3-1 St. Louis
San Jose 2-0 up
Lombardia
11-04-2004, 19:15
nashville 3-1 detroit
(detroit lead 2-1)
omg the habs are winning but still two periods to go.
come on the canadiens.
final score
montreal 3-2 boston:D
(boston lead 2-1)
calgary 1-2 vanvouver
(vancouver lead 2-1)
btw anyone know why montreal are nicknamed the habs?
Lombardia
13-04-2004, 07:37
NY Islanders 0-3 Tamp Bay
(TB 2-1 up)
New Jersey4-2 Philadelhpia
(Philadelphia 2-1 up)
Ottawa 0-2 Toronto
(Toronto 2-1 up)
St. Louis 4-1 San Jose
(SJ 2-1 up)
Dallas 4-3 Colorado
(Colorado 2-1 up)
Lombardia
14-04-2004, 10:34
right then latest scores
nashvile 3-0 detroit
(series tied 2-2)
calgary 4-0 vancouver
(series tied 2-2)
st. louis 3-4 san jose
(san jose leads 3-1)
montreal 3-4 boston
(boston leads 3-1)
i saw the habs game, and imo you threw it away. their game winner was given to them,(koavlev what were you doing) and they also were ahead 3-1.
gonna need a miracle for them to proceed givin the fact that the bruins have 2 home games to come.
Its a bit of strange series, with The Kovalev thing and Ribeiro falling on the ice in the previous game. Habs have played well but its not going our way.
Lombardia
15-04-2004, 09:12
dallas 2-3 colorado
(colorado lead 3-1)
new jersey 0-3 philadelphia
(philadelphia lead 3-1)
NYI 0-3 Tampa Bay
(TB lead 3-1)
Ottawa 4-1 Toronto
(series tied 2-2)
Originally posted by Lombardia
Ottawa 4-1 Toronto
(series tied 2-2)
well I am in such situation that anyone can pull me into his side, I donno what should I support...... sh*t my bro is die hard TML fan, but the blue color is not very attractive to me, red is better.....hmmmm........can ya gimme an option who to support.... I am goin craaaaaazie aaaaahhhhhhhhhhh:eek: :mad: :eek:
go for ottawa:) :)
Ottawa is way much better than toronto
Billy_Montreal
15-04-2004, 12:08
Agreed I lived in Ottawa (did a degree there) and have an affinity for the team. Actually Toronto for me is like Juventus of Hockey I just hate them. Their fans are arrogant despite the fact that the Maple Leafs have not won anything since 1967 (when they play us in Montreal we chant: 67...67...67...)
The Ottawa Toronto series is brutal. Both teams REALLY hate one another as the rivalry is bitter.
Montreal-Boston...wow..that rivalry is bad...I have friends who went to the last two games and said it was like a CURVA scene in Montreal. Boston fans getting yelled at cursed at..chanted at...
As for the game: Montreal lost that heartbreaker in overtime which stunned all of us: Even I how stopped watching hockey with passion years ago am back into...during the playoffs you can't help but be back into it....the city is goes nuts. Its like living in Milan and being oblivious to soccer.
Anyhow if anyone saw that last play of Kovalev getting slashed and then letting go of the puck only to hit his own team mate. I think Souray said best:
"Ok he got slashed...but its double overtime..the ref had just called a penalty..he was letting many things go .......
Do you stop playing?"
:mad:
Lombardia...do you get to watch any games?
Theoren: SA-KU..SA-KU ;)
Yeap SAKU is a great player:D
is it hard to get tickets to NHL playoffs maches?
Saku is great :cool:
Depending on the team it is very difficult to get playoff tickets, Canadian teams especially
That is what I expested.
are the tickets expensive?
Very expensive if you ask me and most of all in Torornto where they know they can charge anything and people will come (both regular season and playoffs)
XZeRo3003
15-04-2004, 12:58
YES! San Jose leads 3-1! Hey, I watch hockey on TV, but my friends say it's so much better when you're watching it live, front seats. Well, knowing that, I better get some tickets to a hockey game soon!
Awww crap, I just found out that they are playing today at home, I could have gone!!! OK, whatever. They can win the series by winning tomorrow, let's hope they win.
Lombardia
15-04-2004, 13:14
Originally posted by AcMilan_Montreal
Lombardia...do you get to watch any games?
yep twice a week. on british tv. only problem is that its starts at 1.30 in the morning and finishes at 4. then again i am a student and i only have a 10 hour week so its not like i have to get up in mornings.(sorry to anyone who does).
saw game 4 of the habs series. i'm not gonna say anything.:D
XZeRo3003
16-04-2004, 01:49
yeah baby YEAH!!!! Sharks are first team to advance!!! Wow, that's nice, and it happened with a 3-1 victory against St. Louis Blues. I saw the game... I can't saw i enjoy hockey nearly as much as I enjoysoccer, but for the most part, It's a cool sport to watch, and I'd really like to go watch a live Hockey match (Sharks' next game maybe?)
Lombardia
16-04-2004, 03:27
boston 1-5 montreal
(boston leads 3-2)
that more like it habs.
detoit 4-1 nashville
(detroit leads 3-2)
vancouver 1-2 calgary
(calgary leads 3-2)
san jose 3-1 st. louis
(san jose win series 4-1)
pleased for you Xzero. that was an impressive performance by the sharks. the blues are a decent outfit.
important match is goin to be .............hugh........... I do not know what is my team ........... can ya make up my mind cuz my bro is drivin me crazy: Leafs Leafs Leafs Leafs Leafs Leafs.......nothin else...........I'm gona do......uuauuuuauhuahuuahhhhhhhhhuuuhuhhhhhhahahaahhauuuu
Lombardia
16-04-2004, 10:45
support toronto just so you can wind billy up.
Billy_Montreal
16-04-2004, 11:24
Originally posted by rae
important match is goin to be .............hugh........... I do not know what is my team ........... can ya make up my mind cuz my bro is drivin me crazy: Leafs Leafs Leafs Leafs Leafs Leafs.......nothin else...........I'm gona do......uuauuuuauhuahuuahhhhhhhhhuuuhuhhhhhhahahaahhauuuu
1967....1967...1967!
(Last time Leafs won the CUP!)
Dude the Leafs are like Inter: Every year the same story (This is the year! Go Leafs Go!) and boom! Now with Sundin's injury it does not look good.
Rezag is right the leafs tickets are a hot commodity because the fans are NUTS..they will shell out any amount for the tickets.
The Canadiens tickets right now can be picked up for about 130 dollars from "scalpers" (guys who sell outside on the street corner) which is about 100 Euros. I have friends who went and paid about that price for game 3. I may be going to game 6 Saturday night.
Lombardia: yes that was a terrible loss and that error...ughhh. Anyways they really bounced back and might actually force a game seven.
Billy_Montreal
16-04-2004, 18:47
The Man of Montreal!!
THEO THEO THEO
:rock3:
Billy_Montreal
16-04-2004, 18:50
Originally posted by Lombardia
yep twice a week. on british tv. only problem is that its starts at 1.30 in the morning and finishes at 4. then again i am a student and i only have a 10 hour week so its not like i have to get up in mornings.(sorry to anyone who does).
saw game 4 of the habs series. i'm not gonna say anything.:D
Game 4 was brutal...Kovalev is really good but his problem is that he has too much pride.
When he misses a shot he leans back as if to say "OH MY GOD" instead of chasing the loose puck. When he got slashed with the puck he let the puck loose in his own zone. That was NUTS!
Its the playoffs...penaltys are not called as often and Montreal was lucky enough to get one.
As Souray said "fine he got slashed...but why stop playing?"
Anyhow, last nights whipping shut the Bruins up ...
Watch the Habs win it in Seven only to lose against a far easier team :depress:
Nothing new....
Ribiero is the NHL's version of Pippo.
I'm telling you, this thread makes less sense to me than Jure's top man list.... and even less than Paolo Inzaghi...
Billy_Montreal
16-04-2004, 23:31
Originally posted by Sandra_13
I'm telling you, this thread makes less sense to me than Jure's top man list.... and even less than Paolo Inzaghi...
All you really need to know is:
The Montreal Canadiens like Ac Milan..RULE!
:rock3:
Lombardia
17-04-2004, 09:29
latest results:
Toronto 2-0 Ottawa
(toronto take 3-2 lead)
Tampa Bay 3-2 NYI
(Tampa bay win series 4-1)
sandra_13 this is the only thread in a while that has not gone nuts!
lets keep it this way.
ps billy, i'm watching the habs tonight, must warn you though, every time i've watched them this year they've lost!! (i've seen em only twice though) go habs!!!
Billy_Montreal
17-04-2004, 11:51
Lombardia:
Wish you could see the scene in Montreal: Keep in mind this city is the MECCA of hockey regardless of What Toronto fans say: We have the most Cups the most legendary players and are the most critical fans.
Every second car has a Habs banner. Every business has a "Go Habs Go" banner and it is all anyone talks about in Playoff time.
I will be at the game tonight...my company has tickets and since I never went the whole year I got picked to go :D
Don't worry Lomba I have faith you will bring the Habs good luck.
By the way one team that REALLY impresses me is the Calgary Flames .. the Red wings...bah...all that money and those old timers don't impress me neither does Colorado because they won't last as a team.
Nice thread.
I support the Penguins.... and they really need it theese days ;)
Back in 1992 i saw Penguins-Kings, and that was amazing despite the Penguins lost. Proberbly because supermario was sidelined ;) But I saw Gretzky score two goals.
Im glad I had the opportunity too see The Great One "live".
.... Forza Pittsburgh Penguins :D
Billy_Montreal
17-04-2004, 23:41
Habs tie the series and on to GAME 7!
I was at the game tonight and lost my voice in the first 5 minutes. I can say that the atmosphere was ELECTRIC worthy of Curva mention. The crowd was on the Bruins backs the whole game chanting the goalie's name: RAY-CROFT to the point where he once slammed his stick after a goal.
I had not been to a hockey game in a while...this feeling in Montreal was long overdue.
Albert: Penguins are a team I always respected for our local boy "Super Mario" who in my opinion is closer to Gretzky than people think.
I too saw the Great one Live...when I was a kid and his early days with Edmonton and in the 93 play off finals when Montreal won the Cup.
Lombardia
18-04-2004, 05:38
Originally posted by AcMilan_Montreal
Habs tie the series and on to GAME 7!
I was at the game tonight and lost my voice in the first 5 minutes. I can say that the atmosphere was ELECTRIC worthy of Curva mention. The crowd was on the Bruins backs the whole game chanting the goalie's name: RAY-CROFT to the point where he once slammed his stick after a goal.
I had not been to a hockey game in a while...this feeling in Montreal was long overdue.
Albert: Penguins are a team I always respected for our local boy "Super Mario" who in my opinion is closer to Gretzky than people think.
I too saw the Great one Live...when I was a kid and his early days with Edmonton and in the 93 play off finals when Montreal won the Cup.
whoo-hoo the jinx is over!! montreal finally wins when watch them, roll on game 7, can't wait. hopefully now the rangers might start playing next season and not be out of contention after game 60 of the season.
anyway roll on game 7 and here are the latest results.
montreal 5-2 boston
(series tied 3-3)
calgary 4-5 vancouver
(series tied 3-3)
nashville 0-2 detroit
(detroit wins 4-2)
colorado 5-1 dallas
(colorado wins 4-1)
philadelphia 31- new jersey
(philadelphia wins 4-1)
Lombardia
19-04-2004, 07:31
last nights result
ottawa 2-1 toronto
(series tied 3-3)
by the way billy i have some info for you.
montreal have been 3-1 down in series 12 times in their history and have never come back to win.
boston have been 3-1 up in a series 14 times and have always won!
history is not on your side. anyway here is the kiss of death
forza montreal!!
Billy_Montreal
19-04-2004, 10:33
Tonight is BIG Lombardia
It is all everyone is talking about. We know about the history well! Time to re-write it.
However! If you look at this series: Montreal lost two matches in over-time (2nd overtimes I believe) and they were only outplayed in the first. The third loss was a stupid give away ... in other words they outplayed the Bruins who capitalized on errors.
The Bruins realize that they never really outplayed Montreal: They are not as good as they think.
Prediction: 4-2 Montreal wins! :D
Ottawa forced game Seven yesterday..thank God ..Toronto fans are annoying and start chanting "CUP" after their first series win!
A lot will depend on Theodore tonight, I can see the Habs being badly outshot
Go Habs Go
Billy_Montreal
19-04-2004, 11:11
True.
Theo has let in some "poor shots" in the beginning of the series.
Lombardia
19-04-2004, 14:49
billy mate i know its massive. i'm really excited despite not really caring too much about either team.my pred:boston 1-2 montreal(after double ot). i wish i was in montreal or boston just so i could savour the atmosphere. game 7's have something mystical about them.... anyway i wish the canadiens luck, really annoyed british tele isn't showing the match, but at least i can see game 7 of toronto-ottawa. that should be something really special aswell.
rezag my friend do you have pred for tonights game??
Billy_Montreal
19-04-2004, 16:03
Originally posted by Lombardia
billy mate i know its massive. i'm really excited despite not really caring too much about either team.my pred:boston 1-2 montreal(after double ot). i wish i was in montreal or boston just so i could savour the atmosphere. game 7's have something mystical about them.... anyway i wish the canadiens luck, really annoyed british tele isn't showing the match, but at least i can see game 7 of toronto-ottawa. that should be something really special aswell.
rezag my friend do you have pred for tonights game??
Lomba...yes the atmosphere is electric..I just called 3 bars/cafes and they are already booked..I need to find a table for 6 people from work.
Toronto-Ottawa rivalry is also bitter albeit recent. I really hope Ottawa takes it. Its too bad Canadian teams are knocking one another out though..Vancouver-Calgary and To-Ottawa.
Rezag: I imagine the "playoff" fever in Toronto is nuts...I know LEAFS fans are fairly emotional and proud.
Originally posted by AcMilan_Montreal
Rezag: I imagine the "playoff" fever in Toronto is nuts...I know LEAFS fans are fairly emotional and proud.
It is mostly because they think it will be their year (but they think that most years :D) I must admit Belfour is playing really well.
Go Habs Go
Lombardia, sorry didn't want to predict a game 7 :nervous:
The Kovalev Koivu Zednick line was a great line and did a great job as did many others, including Theo.
Tampa next.
GO HABS GO
Billy_Montreal
19-04-2004, 23:17
Wow what a tight game...great character by the Habs. That line is incredible...while they were not able to make things happen as easily as the last few games they really rose to the occasion.
When I was young making it past the first round was expected. Tonight cars were blowing their horns after a first round win. Sign of the times.
Nevertheless...
GO HABS GO
Lombardia
20-04-2004, 06:28
what a comeback! from 3-1 down to win 4-3. tough games agaisnt the tb lightning though.
here are the scores from last night
boston 0-2 MONTREAL
(MONTREAL win4-3)
vancouver 2-3 calgary
(calgary win 4-3)
confrimed matchups for the second round:
western conference
detroit (1) v calgary (7)
san jose (2) v colorado (4)
eastern conference
tampa bay (1) v montreal (7)
Philadelphia (2) v toronto(4) or ottawa(5)
Originally posted by Lombardia
toronto(4) or ottawa(5)
Toronto 4 - 1 Ottawa:(
bad result, I was just decided to support Senators and then booooom - their out
and now I wish you Billy never chant that stupid slogan 67 67 67, you can start preparing to sing 2004 2004 2004:D
now I am on Toronto side
Go Leafs go!!!
Lombardia
21-04-2004, 04:11
toronto got lucky rae. their goalie was virtually unbeatable whilst lalime had an absolute shocker. he was replaced after only 20mins and let in two nieuwendyk goals that in all honesty i could have saved blindfoled!!! anyway, rae....... you can't just swap teams like that!!!! dear me, glory hunter, i suppose you'll start supporting the team that knocks out toronto as well!!!!(i'm kidding mate i know you support both)
Originally posted by Lombardia
rae....... you can't just swap teams like that!!!! dear me, glory hunter, i suppose you'll start supporting the team that knocks out toronto as well!!!!
well, it was my fault that I havent told ya the truth - basically I am a Pittsburg Penguins fan since '95 or '96 when they were battlin with Quebec Nordics :nasty: , and my favorite player is Mario Lemieux:star: however they are doin sh*tty these days...so it is necesary to support any other team, am I doin any wrong things :rollani:
I shall never give up PP!!!
But in other case I also like teams from Canada such as Ottawa Senators, Toronto Maple Leafs or ex Vinnipeg Jets.
Billy_Montreal
21-04-2004, 11:48
Originally posted by rae
Toronto 4 - 1 Ottawa:(
bad result, I was just decided to support Senators and then booooom - their out
and now I wish you Billy never chant that stupid slogan 67 67 67, you can start preparing to sing 2004 2004 2004:D
now I am on Toronto side
Go Leafs go!!!
RAE: I told you the LEAFS are like Inter and all they can whisper is "I THINK THIS IS THE YEAR" Don't worry they will crash and burn like every other year...death, taxes, Inter and the Leafs losing are some of the most certain concrete things THAT will happen in life.
The only reason I WOULD want Toronto to win is to face MONTREAL down the line...that would be...
SWEET :devil: :crazy:
Originally posted by Lombardia
last nights result
ottawa 2-1 toronto
(series tied 3-3)
by the way billy i have some info for you.
montreal have been 3-1 down in series 12 times in their history and have never come back to win.
boston have been 3-1 up in a series 14 times and have always won!
history is not on your side. anyway here is the kiss of death
forza montreal!!
i was at this game btw. was awesome. too bad ottawa lost the series :( :( :( leafs ALWAYS WILL SUCK. go sens go!
And now the Sens fired Martin, shouldn't Lalime be fired? :rolleyes:
Billy_Montreal
22-04-2004, 14:41
Originally posted by Nadir
i was at this game btw. was awesome. too bad ottawa lost the series :( :( :( leafs ALWAYS WILL SUCK. go sens go!
Go Sens Go...I agree. The Leafs have their number I guess.
Nadir: You from Ottawa or TO? (I forget where the last game was played)
P.S. LEAFS face Flyers next...GOOD LUCK WITH THAT LEAFS :nasty:
Lombardia
23-04-2004, 02:58
philadelphia 3-1 toronto
(philadelphia lead 1-0)
detroit 1-2 calgary
(calgary lead 1-0)
san jose 5-2 colorado
(san jose lead 1-0)
XZeRo3003
23-04-2004, 09:17
Wow... great job from my SJ sharks!
Nice match by Flames!!!
No matter what I will always say - Go Canada Go...;)
Billy_Montreal
23-04-2004, 21:51
Damn Tampa Bay...I knew they were good but I always thought Boston was a bigger threat. Unlike Boston this team has talent, skill, precision coupled with heart.
GO HABS GO
P.S. Prediction: Flyers will beat Toronto in 5 games.
The Flames-Red Wings series will go to seven games.
Lombardia
24-04-2004, 04:29
results
tampa bay 4-0 montreal
(tampa bay lead 1-0)
i almost forgot, here are my series predictions:
detroit v calgary
detroit in 6
san jose v colorado
san jose in 6
tamp bay v montreal
montreal in 7
philadelphia v toronto
philadelphia in 4
anyway about last nights game.
tb played well the habs didn't. lecavallier finally showed up.
i think the whole key to the series is khabibulin.if the habs can find a way past him i reckon they could do it, but tb aren't 1st seeds for nothing. its gonna be tough for the habs this series, but they can do it. go habs!
Originally posted by AcMilan_Montreal
P.S. Prediction: Flyers will beat Toronto in 5 games.
The Flames-Red Wings series will go to seven games.
Oghhh, you are a bit too optimistic..... I can guess that first pair will not end their serie without playin 6 or more matches;)
And I assume that red army would be smashed in 6 games:D
Lombardia
24-04-2004, 17:13
latest results
detroit 5-2 calgary
(series 1-1)
san jose 4-1 colorado
(san jose lead 2-0)
XZeRo3003
24-04-2004, 19:34
oh man, I think JS can take this in 4!
XZeRo3003
24-04-2004, 19:44
I mean, SJ
Originally posted by Lombardia
latest results
detroit 5-2 calgary
(series 1-1)
san jose 4-1 colorado
(san jose lead 2-0)
really disappointing results for me cuz redarmy starts to show their sh*tty jaws...
My bro will be defenetly shocked after anoyher defeat by Colorado
Go Canada Go!
Lombardia
26-04-2004, 10:47
more bad news i'm afraid,despite theodore's heroics(esp 1st period) montreal lost.
results:
tampa bay 3-1 montreal
philadelphia 2-1 toronto
i hope that cheers you up billy.
Next two games will be played in montreol so after those games serie is 2-2. So donīt worry
Billy_Montreal
26-04-2004, 18:32
Hope your right Theoren
Well I'll probably be at tomorrow nights game...however the situation is not the Boston one EVEN though we were down two games. Tampa just does not let up and its hard to score on them.
Need that first line to pick it up and some defensive support plus goals from Ribiero and Ryder.
Go Habs Go
Word up, XZeRo3003! Sharks can take the Avs out of the series on Wednesday. I don't think neither Detroit nor Calgary can stop the Sharks to Stanley Cup final.
mmm... don't think Canadian teams have a chance. Flyers probably win the east.
XZeRo3003
27-04-2004, 00:31
Hey Edmando, you from OAK-TOWN!?
"Where you from? Oakland Smokin'"
straight-up... but I ain't tough enov to be in West Oakland though
:D
XZeRo3003
27-04-2004, 01:00
Nobody's tough enough to be in West Oaklan, unless you're the same color as them, or unless you're a shark. Sharks are owning everybody!
Are anyone interested about World championships?? F
Lombardia
27-04-2004, 16:38
results
colorado 0-1 san jose
(san jose lead 3-1)
Habs on the brink :(
Tough game with a bit of bad luck, still thumbsup to Saku and Jim Dowd for good veteran play.
Theoren, I follow the world championships a bit but not very closely
XZeRo3003
27-04-2004, 23:00
Originally posted by Lombardia
results
colorado 0-1 san jose
(san jose lead 3-1)
Correction, San Jose leads 3-0
Lightning -Canadiens 4- 3 ot.
:(
Doesnīt look good :depress: :depress:
Lombardia
28-04-2004, 04:03
scores
calgary 3-2 detroit
(calgary lead 2-1)
montreal 3-4 tampa bay
(tamp bay lead 3-0):(
tampa bay equalised with just 17 seconds left. great effort by the habs though. i think montreal's goose is cooked.
Originally posted by Lombardia
calgary 3-2 detroit
(calgary lead 2-1)
I guess this is the only pair where canadians will overcome:( , sad results....:depress:
Go Canada Go
Billy_Montreal
28-04-2004, 11:13
Heartbreaking loss...
One minute left in the game..Canadiens lead
3-2...the home crowd is going absolutely CRAZY and Koivu and Kovalev come close to securing it. They don't even give Tampa a chance to remove the goalie for the extra man.
20 seconds left..face off in Canadiens zone. Montreal wins it..but Perrault falls...Tampa picks it up and scores with 17 seconds left.
A few minutes into overtime Tampa rides on the momentum and scores.
DAMN SHAME.
The mindset (although wrong) is that if Montreal wins the next game they will be in the same situation they were against Boston ..down 3 games to 1 at game 4. However, this is not Boston .. this team is fast, talented with one of the best keepers right now.
GO HABS GO.
Angel_Cic
28-04-2004, 16:10
Originally posted by AcMilan_Montreal
Heartbreaking loss...
One minute left in the game..Canadiens lead
3-2...the home crowd is going absolutely CRAZY and Koivu and Kovalev come close to securing it. They don't even give Tampa a chance to remove the goalie for the extra man.
20 seconds left..face off in Canadiens zone. Montreal wins it..but Perrault falls...Tampa picks it up and scores with 17 seconds left.
A few minutes into overtime Tampa rides on the momentum and scores.
DAMN SHAME.
The mindset (although wrong) is that if Montreal wins the next game they will be in the same situation they were against Boston ..down 3 games to 1 at game 4. However, this is not Boston .. this team is fast, talented with one of the best keepers right now.
GO HABS GO.
I watched the highlights from the game this morning and immediately thought of you Billy...man that bites! But it's not like you're playing and can change anything, right? Hey, I don't watch hockey, but I'll wear your jersey any day :) (i.e fashion thread pic you posted ;))
Lombardia
29-04-2004, 05:57
latest scores
toronto 4-1 philadelhpia
(philadelphia lead 2-1)
colordao 1-0 san jose
(san jose lead 3-1)
stunningly awesome results pure class:cool: :D
just what I need most :tong:
My bro will be supremely ecxited:D me too
Go Canada Go!
Another tough loss, Habs are out :(
Too many bad luck giveaways, turnovers etc. Couldn't contain Tampa's speed and push their defensemen much
Go Habs Go
Saku, Saku, Saku
Just wanted to add:
"Koivu -- who coach Claude Julien revealed was injured in the first game of the playoffs and played with broken ribs, torn cartilage and a bruised lung" had 11 points in 11 games
:proud:
XZeRo3003
30-04-2004, 00:57
Question, who do Sharks face after they win (he he he....)?
Lombardia
30-04-2004, 05:35
results
montreal 1-3 tampa bay
(tampa bay win 4-0):( :( :( :mad:
calgary 2-4 detroit
(seriea tied 2-2)
san jose will face the winner of calgary-detroit
Lombardia
01-05-2004, 06:50
latest reult:
toronto 3-1 philadelphia
(series tied 2-2)
Billy_Montreal
01-05-2004, 10:07
Originally posted by rezag
Just wanted to add:
"Koivu -- who coach Claude Julien revealed was injured in the first game of the playoffs and played with broken ribs, torn cartilage and a bruised lung" had 11 points in 11 games
:proud:
Proving that the C is for more than just Captain...i.e. COURAGE.
Being at game 4 and being witness to the sweep I along with 28,000 others were more than happy to give the well deserved Habs a standing ovation for their efforts this season and post season and giving us HOPE for the future:
Theo, Souray, Saku, Zednik, Ribiero, Ryder, Kovalev...future looks good.
Lombardia
01-05-2004, 18:22
detroit 0-1 calgary
(calgary lead 3-2)
san jose 1-2 colorado
(sj lead 3-2)
XZeRo3003
01-05-2004, 21:14
Originally posted by Lombardia
detroit 0-1 calgary
(calgary lead 3-2)
san jose 1-2 colorado
(sj lead 3-2)
WHAT THE HELL!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Oh my god... if Colorado catches up....
Sharks gave game 5 to the Aves. It's rediculous. I think they should have won that game but they weren't doing the job in organizing offense. Well, Aves were determined too. Anywho, will see what happen in game 6... i don't want to see the same thing happend like 2002
XZeRo3003
02-05-2004, 21:27
Originally posted by Edmando
Sharks gave game 5 to the Aves. It's rediculous. I think they should have won that game but they weren't doing the job in organizing offense. Well, Aves were determined too. Anywho, will see what happen in game 6... i don't want to see the same thing happend like 2002
Dude, both games were won in OT
Lombardia
02-05-2004, 21:53
philadelphia 7-2 toronto
(philadelphis lead 3-2)
Originally posted by Lombardia
philadelphia 7-2 toronto
(philadelphis lead 3-2)
pure sh*t:mad:
why american clubs has to win....:mad:
Go Canada Go
Lombardia
04-05-2004, 16:47
this will please you rae:
calgary 1-0 detroit
(calgary win series 4-2)
Toronto out too, lost 3-2 in overtime but were 2-0 behind at the end of second period and managed to tie it
San Jose 3-1 Colorado
So final four is set:
San Jose - Calgary
Tampa - Philly
Billy_Montreal
04-05-2004, 22:06
Flyers and Tampa Bay is going to be VERY INTERESTING.
I guess I'll support the Flames...the only Canadian team remaining.
Go Flames Go.
San Jo, you know... they gonna finish Calgary off in 5 games. I can see Philly beat Lightning. So stanley cup final would be SJ vs Philly. :D
Lombardia
05-05-2004, 05:40
my predictions(so far 6/12)
san jose (2) v calgary(7)
i'm gonna agree with edmando, sj in 5.
tamp bay (1) v philadelphia (3)
tampa bay in 7
Billy_Montreal
05-05-2004, 09:37
Tampa-Philly I will not predict because its VERY tough...Tampa is constantly under-rated and has one of the fastest and most talented teams. Philly as usual is all about BIG players and physical play. If they don't beat Khabi (keeper) fast they can forget about it...they also have to figure out a way to hold down LeCavalier and St. Louis...good luck!
San Jose is all the talk but I think the Flames are the first REAL team that will give them trouble...I don't think San Jose is physical enough to hold down Igilna and company.
FLAMES IN 7!
Originally posted by Lombardia
this will please you rae:
calgary 1-0 detroit
(calgary win series 4-2)
very pleased by this one, finally red army are out of competition in my favor....
God bless Canada!!!
Go Flames Go!
Lombardia
09-05-2004, 09:01
predictions:
tamp bay to beat philadelphia
san jose to wipe the floor with calgary
Lombardia
09-05-2004, 09:03
latest results
tampa bay 3-1 philadelphia
(tb lead 1-0)
Lombardia
10-05-2004, 06:30
san jose 3-4 calgary
(calgary lead 1-0)
Originally posted by Lombardia
san jose 3-4 calgary
(calgary lead 1-0)
Jesus, what a stunningly awesome performance by Flames :cool: :D :tong:
Wish they win Stanley Cup!
Go Flames Go!
Originally posted by rae
Jesus, what a stunningly awesome performance by Flames :cool: :D :tong:
Wish they win Stanley Cup!
Go Flames Go!
I am still keeping my head up high... :stress:
Lombardia
11-05-2004, 05:35
tampa bay 2-6 philaelphia
(series tied 1-1)
didn't see that score coming!
San Jose 1-4 Calgary
(Calgary lead 2-0)
:tong: :tong: :tong: :tong:
:firedev: Go Flames Go!:firedev:
Lombardia
14-05-2004, 04:49
latest results:
philadelphia 1-4 tampa bay
(tampa bay lead 2-1)
calgary 0-3 san jose
(calgary lead 2-1)
Lombardia
16-05-2004, 04:19
philadelphis 3-2 tampa bay
(series tied 2-2)
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Lombardia
16-05-2004, 18:22
calgary 2-4 san jose
(series tied 2-2)
Originally posted by Lombardia
calgary 2-4 san jose
(series tied 2-2)
bullsh*t :( but as it is said - sh*t happens but only for sometime;)
Go Flames Go!
Lombardia
18-05-2004, 03:00
san jose 0-3 calgary
(calgary lead 3-2)
1 more win and they'll be in the final rae
Originally posted by Lombardia
san jose 0-3 calgary
(calgary lead 3-2)
1 more win and they'll be in the final rae
:tong: yep, I assume that you also support them, well for this time:D
:firedev:!Go Flames Go!:firedev:
Lombardia
19-05-2004, 05:04
nah not really rae, i'm not bothered who wins now, my team NY Rangers, but they never do anything, i have softy spots for vancouver, st. louis, detroit and montreal but they all perished after round 3!!
anyway latest results
tamp bay 4-2 philadelphia
(tampa bay leads 3-2)
Lombardia
20-05-2004, 04:51
calgary 3-1 sanjose
(calgary wins series 4-2 and advances to stanley cup final for dirst time since 1989(i think))
Originally posted by Lombardia
calgary 3-1 sanjose
(calgary wins series 4-2 and advances to stanley cup final for dirst time since 1989(i think))
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
hehehe I fell tired of shouting..... !!!YES!!!
lox that we made that till the end (Blur's - Till The End):tong:
Gelinas is a superman, Iginla also and Regehr is not an exeption:tong:
:fero::star:Go Flames Go:star::fero:
Congrats to the Flames, I really didn't think them or any of the Canadian based teams would go this far.
Hope they win the cup.
Lombardia
20-05-2004, 21:53
philadelphia 5-4 tampa bay
(game 7 coming up!!!)
Well, I hope that they get tired and will be faint in superfinal :D
Go Flames Go
Lombardia
23-05-2004, 09:42
tampa bay 2-1 Philadelhpia
(Tampa Bay win series 4-3)
this means its a calgary-tampa bay stanley cup final!
would never have guessed that one before the season started
anyway my pred, tb in 6.
calgary have done brilliantly in knocking out the 3 top seeded teams in their conference (vancouver(3), detoit(1) and san jose(2), and have played excepionally well, but tampa bay have been the best team in the playoffs this year, khabibulin can be unbeatable at times, and have st. louis and lecavallier who can win games all by theselves. calgary's hopes lay at the skates and stick of jerome igilna and martin gelinas, they need big peformances.
i want a game 7 which goes into overtime, and then decided by a penalty shot? has that ever ever ever happened in the history of the nhl??
Originally posted by Lombardia
anyway my pred, tb in 6.
you have let me down:depress: ;)
my pred is Flames in 7, last game 3:2 Gelinas scores in third period 2 mins from time;)
btw, ''Gelinas'' sounds very lithuanian IMO;) If his orgins are from here:D
:fero::star:Go Flames Go:star::fero:
We beat them by 4 to 1
Yahoooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:fero:Go Flames Go:fero:
Originally posted by rae
We beat them by 4 to 1
Yahoooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:fero:Go Flames Go:fero:
And last night they bet you 4 - 1 :D
:fero: FORZA FREDRIK MODIN :fero:
:fero: FORZA MILAN :fero:
Lombardia
29-05-2004, 11:40
i want a game 7!!! GO HOCKEY
Lombardia
30-05-2004, 10:31
calgary take 2-1 lead with 3-0 win thanks to great goaltending from kiprosof
Lombardia
01-06-2004, 04:31
calgary 0-1 tampa bay
(2-2)
Originally posted by Lombardia
calgary 0-1 tampa bay
(2-2)
why it always goes the same:mad:
btw, Wolves lost:depress: :depress: :depress: :depress: :depress: :depress: :depress: :depress: :depress: :depress: :depress: :depress:
That game was lame last night
Calgary just took a 3-2 lead in the series winning 3-2 in OT. Nice game but way too many broken passes, 3 on 1 and 2 on 1 chances
Chance to win it all at home on Saturday :cool:
Originally posted by rezag
Calgary just took a 3-2 lead in the series winning 3-2 in OT. Nice game but way too many broken passes, 3 on 1 and 2 on 1 chances
Chance to win it all at home on Saturday :cool:
Yep, and they will do that:cool:
:star::fero:Go Flames Go:fero::star:
Lombardia
06-06-2004, 15:58
and we have a game 7 whoo-hoo!
And another year the cup stays outside of Canada:rolleyes: Tampa won 2-1, Calgary only came on in the third though and Lacavalier had an excellent individual game with a couple of excellent moves
Lombardia
08-06-2004, 09:14
well done to tampa bay, and to dave andreychuk who finally managed to win a stanley cup! great series, enjoyed it thoroughly, lets hope there's a season next year! and if so can the rangers plz plz plz plz plz plz plz plz just make 8th spot? i mean i know its a long shot and its been at least 7/8 years since we were last there, so i'm starting my prayers now! dear jure3105 please make my wish come true!
Congrats to Tampa !!! Congrats to Dave Andreychuk!!! :)
Hi , RAE! How do you feel? :D
:fero: FORZA MILAN :fero:
Originally posted by VadymKrupen
RAE! How do you feel?
just the same as after April 7th:cry:
For those interested in Hockey
The hockey world cup just ended, in the final Canada beat Finland 3-2 to win, other semifinalists were the US and Czech Republic.
On the NHL front, there was no resolution to the labour problems and the owners will officially lock out the players on Wednesday and most probably no NHL for a long while.
Lombardia
15-09-2004, 06:42
thats sucks, i hope they can come to some sort of agreement i need my hockey fix!
and canada seem to win everything recently, the 2002 olympics, te 2003 and 2004 world championship and now the 2004 world cup, gretzky has been a hugely succesful gm.
I am so humiliated to see two lithuanian playing for russian side...
The worst insult can not be done to me...
Unbelievable...a whole season gone
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http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=115107&hubName=nhl
From this moment on, the 2004-2005 NHL season will be marked with an asterisk and caption that reads "Season Cancelled."
A last-minute effort to put together a framework for a new collective bargaining agreement proved to be too little, too late on Wednesday as commissioner Gary Bettman officially called off the remainder of the 2004-2005 season.
"When I stood before you in September, I said NHL teams would not play again until our economic problems had been solved," Bettman said.
"As I stand before you today, it is my sad duty to announce that because that solution has not yet been attained, it no longer is practical to conduct even an abbreviated season. Accordingly, I have no choice but to announce the formal cancellation of play for 2004-05."
The NHL is planning for the 2005-06 season, and will pursue more labour talks but Bettman warned the league is going to have to look at a "completely different economic model and it is going to have to have linkage (between revenue and player salary costs)."
"The best deal that was on the table is now gone," he added.
Bettman had given the Players' Association until 11am et to accept the league's final offer, which featured a $42.5-million US salary cap. The union's counter-offer called for a $49-million salary cap. A publicized letter-writing campaign outlining the $6.5 million gap between both sides broke down late Tuesday night, prompting the league to send memos to its 30 teams saying the season would be cancelled.
"We weren't as close as people were speculating...We were still very far apart," Bettman said, noting that $6.5 million multiplied by 30 teams is close to $200 million.
The only other letter that came on Wednesday morning was a press release from the NHLPA saying it had scheduled its own news conference for 4pm et/1pm pt in Toronto.
"It's too bad...but at least we have an answer," Vancouver Canucks captain Markus Naslund told TSN. "It's too bad for us players that we can't be out there to perform but there's a bigger picture, too."
It's the first time a major professional league in North America has cancelled an entire season due to a work stoppage. A Stanley Cup champion has been crowned every year since 1893 with the exception of 1919, when the Finals were canceled after five games due to a flu epidemic.
The union was willing to play with a salary cap at $49 million, but that was rejected by Bettman.
"If every team spent to the $49 million level you have proposed, total player compensation would exceed what we spent last season and, assuming for discussion purposes, there was no damage to the game, our player compensation costs would exceed 75 percent of revenues," the commissioner wrote on Tuesday. "We cannot afford your proposal."
Goodenow fired back with a spirited letter, stating the union would not present any future offers.
"Your claim that the clubs 'cannot afford' our proposal is based on your hypothetical fear of what would happen 'if every team spent to the $49 million level the players have proposed,'" he wrote. "I am at a loss to understand how you suggest your offer earlier (Tuesday) represents a $75 million increase when it only impacts the spending of nine teams!"
Early Tuesday evening, Bettman made what he termed the NHL's "last effort" to resolve the lengthy labor dispute, raising the amount of the previous salary cap offer of $40 million in an attempt to reach a new CBA with the players.
In a letter to Goodenow, Bettman put forth a "take it or leave it" offer and requested a response prior to his news conference Wednesday afternoon.
"We are increasing our offer of (Monday) by increasing the maximum individual team cap to $44.7 million ($42.5 million in salary and $2.2 million in benefits)," Bettman wrote. "This offer is not an invitation to begin negotiations - it's too late for that. This is our last effort to make a deal that's fair to the players and one that the clubs (hopefully) can afford. We have no more flexibility and there is no time for further negotiation."
Goodenow responded with his own letter to Bettman in which he presented a deal that would institute a $49 million cap - $3 million lower than the union's previous offer - plus $2.2 million in benefits.
Goodenow's six-year proposal also called for a $25 million floor that each team could fall below twice during the term, a minimum player salary of $300,000, a scale of payroll taxes and a 55 percent player share of 2005 playoff revenue.
While Bettman's proposal called for a hard salary cap, Goodenow's plan allowed teams the opportunity to exceed the threshold by 10 percent - up to $53.9 million - twice during its duration, with a 150 percent tax as a penalty.
After months of haggling over the issue of a salary cap, both the NHL and union made unprecedented concessions late Monday night. The NHL removed the linkage of salaries to league revenues while presenting a proposal that included a $40 million cap to the union.
Doing something it vowed never to consider, the NHLPA in turn backed away from its hardline stance against a cap and made a counterproposal that featured a $52 million limit on team payrolls. The union's latest offering also included the 24 percent rollback on existing contracts it presented in December and more aggressive tax thresholds and tax rates on team payrolls.
Under Bettman's proposal, NHL teams would have to divide less than $45 million among 24 players and would not be able to exceed the threshold. By comparison, NBA teams have nearly $44 million to divide among 12-15 players and also enjoy exceptions which allow them to exceed the cap without penalty.
Bettman locked out NHL players at the start of the 1994-95 season, when the league's average salary was $572,000. It has more than tripled to $1.8 million.
The lockout reached its 154th day Wednesday. If an agreement was reached, Bettman said the league had in place a 28-game regular season followed by a playoff with 16 participants.
The work stoppage has been in effect since Sept. 15, when Bettman announced that the league would lock out its players following the expiration of the most recent agreement. He indicated that teams had lost $1.8 billion over the last 10 years, including $224 million in 2003-04. Bettman added that the owners needed "an enforceable, defined relationship between revenues and expenses," so that a team's ability to compete was not dependent upon its ability to pay.
Two-and-a-half months passed before the two sides agreed to meet in their first formal bargaining session since the lockout began. It was at that point that the players offered a 24-percent rollback in salaries as part of their proposal. Though Bettman said the union finally acknowledged the league's financial troubles, the offer was rejected by the league.
The two sides met again in January, this time in a much smaller setting without Bettman or Goodenow at the bargaining table. But after almost 10 hours of talks over two days, both sides continued to cite "philosophical differences."
On Jan. 27, the league put forth a framework for a proposal that included a team-by-team salary cap between $32-$42 million with no luxury tax and team payrolls linked to revenues at a rate of 54-percent. The NHLPA did not look favourably on the proposal.
With the deadline of the season being cancelled hanging over their heads, Bettman and Goodenow finally met again for two days in early February. Both sides reported no progress.
On Feb. 9, Bettman set a weekend deadline for getting a new deal in place or else the season would be cancelled, acknowledging for the first time that a formal announcement would take place rather than let the season fade away without recognition.
For those keeping count, 834 of the NHL's 1,230 games this season had already been wiped out by Wednesday.
"What we must do now is not about the present or the short-term needs of this season. Rather, it is about the future of our league and 30 teams," Bettman said.
Lombardia
17-02-2005, 07:42
i'm just gutted, i thought they wouldn't resolve anything this season, but to hear the nhl itself is under threat is just devestating
NHL will come back next year, with or without the existing players. The franchises are worth too much to waste for the owners.
Players though that they could (right or wrong) intimidate owners by striking. Now that this card has been played and wasted, the owners (right or wrong) will control everything from now on. The players that want to play next year will agree to a deal.
I also think NHL will be played next season, already the players had moved to accept some sort of cap.
My opinion on it is the owners as the guys running the business would eventaully get most of they want but leave enough loopholes (with players understanding) to make it work for the richer teams so there will still be quite a few very highly paid players.
Is there made any agreements... that we would know for sure that next season will start?
Angel_Cic
20-02-2005, 15:58
well, at least there will be more basketball games on t.v now that there's no competition :D
Angel_Cic
20-02-2005, 16:00
but seriously, for you die hard hockey fans, i understand how that can hurt. i couldn't imagine not having an nba season. not being able to cheer on my fav team and go through all of the excitement.
I really thought that if anyone could revive a fresh breath into the torn down talks, it would certainly have been Gretzky, and with Lemieux at his side, was there ever any doubt ? Apparently even The Great One was unable to save the season...it was over before it started. The players are paid millions to play a boys game, and yet still cannot act like the professionals they claim to be. As a Canadian I have always believed that 'our' players have always played simply for the love of the game. What has happened to that ? Where has the passion for the game gone ? I am very disappointed at the way this whole strike has been handled on both sides. They are acting like children....well I did say it's a 'boys game'
but seriously, for you die hard hockey fans, i understand how that can hurt. i couldn't imagine not having an nba season. not being able to cheer on my fav team and go through all of the excitement.
As ice-hockey fan I am very disappointed that NHL season is over even not started, but as basketball fan I would be pleased if NBA happen the same - simple reason - many players will come to Europe to play for our teams [maybe for mine too :D], while european ice-hockey is not what I like :p146:
:D
I think the main problem with the NHL if you call it a problem is that it has surpassed basketball in rate of growth. Yes Basketball is probably a bigger sport right now but Hockey is the fastest growing one at the moment. With new camera technology and stuff the coverage has improved thousand fold. With growth comes growing pains.
I this moment in time I support the owners. I dont think players have the right to hold their team, league, season, and the whole sport for hostage. I can see where they might have been coming from, but I disapprove at the method they used against the owners.
Let's take it from the owners point of view, especially the now underdog teams. As a result of the rapid growth of the sport you now have hockey teams playing in cities that lay in a desert or a place where it doesnt even snow. Growth attracts a whole new breed of businessman different than that of the traditional hockey owner. That is why the most vunerable teams losing their franchise are some teams up north finding it very difficult to compete with the new money teams in the south. You hockey fans from Canada know what I'm talking aboot. It is scary to think that Calgary or Edmonton or any team from the North abandoning their city for promise on the other side. AND I think the owners overall saw this as a serious issue and therefore to make it a level playing field to protect small town clubs, they brought forward the issues of the salary cap and rights to set market prices for players under contract.
To no ones surprise the players Union as always obstructs anything and everything. I tend to think that it is not the players, but the Union and it's non-playing representatives, that are ruinig it for everyone.
Enough said I'll say more later to allow some response to what I have said.
I always said the players are incredible greedy, we even had players having individual protest to get higher wages. I have no idea how they can do that while under contract, but I don't know their regulations when it comes to that. Says something when one of the players doing that (Swede Daniel Alfredsson) is one of the head figures in NHLPA... As a fan I would not exactly feel for those greedy bastards.
But all is well in europe, hockey is hot now that we have our and some of your best players here. There have even been some canadians in my city watching our team. :)
Yup, players are too greedy, but mind that club administration is even more greedy. That money amount which is earned of TV broadcasts or money from comercial business is much bigger than that which is paid for players. So I do reckon that both sides are guilty for that, and both should approach the compromise.
:uhm: RAE. Are we two the only people posting right now? Cause I get the feeling that I'm following you and vice-versa. I always respond to the newest posts I get and its funny as heck that it's always you and me. No, I'm not stalking, so please no restraining orders ok? Thanx!
Yup, players are too greedy, but mind that club administration is even more greedy. That money amount which is earned of TV broadcasts or money from comercial business is much bigger than that which is paid for players. So I do reckon that both sides are guilty for that, and both should approach the compromise.
Yes I would agree that the owners have some mea culpa in this affair too. But I think TV broadcasts brought in more money to the game so of course players should get more. But that's been done already. They want more than that. In any business that is operated the biggest expenditure for a company, sports teams included, is the cost of labor with attachments (health insurance, injury, liabilities etc.) Can you imagine if the bulk of your employees makes 6-7 figures in pay? Not to mention the others you employ running the offices, maintenance, down to the guy riding the Zamboni. That's a big overhead. Most owners believe it or not have the teams more as a creature comfort hobby than a money making franchise. It's usually a side thing that they use to complement their real business/aspirations.
Yup, players are too greedy, but mind that club administration is even more greedy. That money amount which is earned of TV broadcasts or money from comercial business is much bigger than that which is paid for players. So I do reckon that both sides are guilty for that, and both should approach the compromise.
Have you seen Lemieux quote? He said that he believed the owners where hiding money and was lying to the players... up until he became a owner himself and realised that there was no money at all, half if not more of the clubs are making huge losses. Of course they have to blame themself a bit, but when star players can go on strike to get higher wages then there is something wrong...
Lombardia
22-02-2005, 04:40
Have you seen Lemieux quote? He said that he believed the owners where hiding money and was lying to the players... up until he became a owner himself and realised that there was no money at all, half if not more of the clubs are making huge losses. Of course they have to blame themself a bit, but when star players can go on strike to get higher wages then there is something wrong...
yeah i read that, what also worried me is that none of the players took up on the owners offer to look on the club's financial books and records, i mean to me that just makes them money grabbing arrogant idiots
Well like I had written in an earlier post. These players no nothing about business. All they do is play the sport for Uber cash. For that I can partially forgive them. But when it comes down to the Union that represents their interests, these mothersf-kers are the guilty party. You have a panel of represntatives who are players in the NHL, but the guy pushing the issue is some lawyer or non-player in the sport. The guy probably never picked up a hockey stick before in his life. It is they who we really need to focus on.
NHL, NHLPA reach tentative CBA deal
Done Deal
TSN.ca Staff with CP files
7/13/2005 2:35:28 PM
And now for the words everyone has been waiting to hear: The deal is done!
The NHL and NHL Players' Association have finally reached an agreement (pending ratification) on a new six-year collective bargaining agreement that - if approved by the NHL board of governors next Thursday and the rank and file membership of the NHLPA next Tuesday - will officially end the stalemate on July 21.
The agreement, a complex document reportedly numbering more than 600 pages, came after the two sides staged marathon negotiating sessions for nine consecutive days. Since the 2004-05 NHL season was officially cancelled on Feb. 16, the league and union have met on 82 occasions, leading to an agreement that will revamp the way the entire professional hockey industry conducts its business.
The league went into this lockout, which started on Sept. 15, 2004, seeking cost certainty and believes it has achieved that with a new economic system from top to bottom.
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It is expected both the NHL and NHLPA will move to ratify the agreement within the next seven days, with a formal announcement on July 21. During that time, it is expected the new CBA will be distributed to all in the hockey industry so they can begin getting themselves up to speed on a myriad of new rules and regulations.
Among the most significant features are:
- a hard team-by-team salary cap with a payroll of range of $21 million to $39 million (in the first year), which includes all player costs (benefits, insurance etc).
- the league's total expenditure on player costs (salaries, bonuses, benefits and insurance) is not permitted to exceed 54 per cent of defined hockey-related revenue and the salary cap and payroll range will move up or down as revenues increase or decrease each year of the deal.
- a 24 per-cent salary rollback for any NHL player who has time remaining on an existing contract, keeping in mind that the players will receive none of the monies they were slated to earn in the lost season of 2004-05.
- liberalized free agency (including unrestricted status at 27 by year four of the deal), a more restrictive entry level system, totally revamped salary arbitration, improved pension benefits and a revenue-sharing plan.
- Age eligibility for unrestricted free agency at age 31 in 2005, 29 in 2006, 28 in 2007. In 2008, it's 27 or seven years of NHL tenure.
This agreement (pending ratification) will kick off the most bizarre and busiest off-season in NHL history after the league became the first major professional loop to lose an entire year to labour strife.
As tutorials are conducted to allow NHL owners, general managers, NHL players and player agents to understand the new economic order, plans are already in the works for the two ratification votes.
NHL commissioner Gary Bettman will be recommending acceptance of this agreement to the governors, so a simple majority of the league's 30-man ruling body will be enough to ratify it.
It's also expected the NHLPA's executive committee, led by president Trevor Linden, will be endorsing the deal, which means a simple majority of the NHLPA's more than 700 members will be enough to make it binding. For those players who cannot physically make it to the membership meeting, the vote will be conducted through the NHLPA's secure website, The Source.
"I don't think the deal that we're going to get would have been ratified last summer," said Sean Burke, a free agent like many of his brethren. "But I just think we've been worn down to the point where at this stage the deal would really have to be incredibly bad for the guys not to vote it in. At least that's the sense I'm getting."
Assuming both groups ratify, the NHL is expected to begin a brief transition period before the league fully re-opens for business.
But before teams and players start to concern themselves with the specifics of transition - such as the buying out of some players to allow teams to meet cap requirements or the attempted signing of 2003 and 2004 draft picks who would re-enter the 2005 entry draft if not signed - the league is expected to unveil significant changes to the game, on and off the ice.
Because no season was played in 2004-05, there is no order of selection for the 2005 entry draft, which is scheduled to take place as a scaled-down event in Ottawa's Westin Hotel on July 30. Usually, teams draft in inverse order of finish from the recently-concluded season, but this time there will be a weighted draft lottery (with the teams who have fared poorest over the last few years to get marginally better odds than those who fared well) to determine who gets the first overall pick and the right to pick young phenom Sidney Crosby. That lottery is scheduled to take place on July 21 when the NHL is expected to formally announce the new CBA.
When it comes to 2003 draft picks, like Philadelphia's highly-touted first-rounders Jeff Carter and Mike Richards, those players will be eligible for the 2003 rookie limit, with a 24% rollback, along with performance bonuses that can total $850,000. This gives those players incentive to sign with the team that drafted them in 2003 rather than re-enter the 2005 draft.
In addition to that major business, the NHL is also expected to unveil significant rule changes aimed at making the game more exciting and fan friendly, including shootouts to end tie games and the removal of the red line for the purpose of allowing two-line passes.
While the regular season will remain at 82 games long for each team, the format of that schedule may be altered.
Once the NHL's formal news conference is put to bed, along with the lottery and rule changes, the brief transition period should unfold in order to take care of the loose ends from the expired CBA. At some point, the NHL will declare itself open for business and NHL teams will be sorting through a huge pool of unrestricted free agents as many teams make themselves over from the ground up.
Whether it is the brave new world the NHL hopes, remains to be seen, but the level of activity and uncertainty will be higher than at any other time in league history.
For now, though, the only thing that matters in the short term is this: The deal (pending ratification) is done.
The lockout wiped out the entire 2004-05 season, including all 1,230 regular-season games, denying hockey fans a Stanley Cup champion for the first time since a flu epidemic cancelled the 1919 final. The NHL became the first major professional league in North America to loose a season from beginning to end because of labour strife.
Once Bettman announced the season cancelled Feb. 16, both sides returned to the negotiating table March 11 in the first of 44 meetings aimed at making sure the 2005-06 season wouldn't be delayed.
The two sides met every single week starting in early May and didn't let up until the end, cramming in long days in the final six weeks in an effort to finally get it done.
shevagol_7
13-07-2005, 14:43
Yesssss! That announcement made my day!
It actually got better today I met Michael Ryder at the gym today and had a chat with him.
You met him? :cool: Hope he can continue where he left off and be a big part of the Habs, I am not even sure of any of those players contract situations anymore :rolleyes:
shevagol_7
13-07-2005, 21:45
You met him? :cool: Hope he can continue where he left off and be a big part of the Habs, I am not even sure of any of those players contract situations anymore :rolleyes:
Yeah he is a really nice guy. He is under contract with the Habs for next year at least.
Are you a HABS fan as well ? Wow...this forum just gets better and better. I am beside myself with joy as my first love, hockey is back ! I am truly a hockey chick, and can't wait for the season to begin !
Hockey Night in Canada Baby !!!!
As far as the negotiations go....let's let by gones be by gones. It was a pissing match between billionaires and millionaires over a 'boys' game. the fans are truly the ones who paid the price. Hockey will recover in Canada with little effort.... but I am afraid the Ameican clubs will have a tough battle to regain the support of the fans. It wouldn't really be a bad thing if a few of the expansion clubs shut down would it ?
If hockey is back ...will I still remain a soccer princess ? ....lmao ! ;)
shevagol_7
17-07-2005, 21:24
Are you a HABS fan as well ? Wow...this forum just gets better and better. I am beside myself with joy as my first love, hockey is back ! I am truly a hockey chick, and can't wait for the season to begin !
Hockey Night in Canada Baby !!!!
As far as the negotiations go....let's let by gones be by gones. It was a pissing match between billionaires and millionaires over a 'boys' game. the fans are truly the ones who paid the price. Hockey will recover in Canada with little effort.... but I am afraid the Ameican clubs will have a tough battle to regain the support of the fans. It wouldn't really be a bad thing if a few of the expansion clubs shut down would it ?
If hockey is back ...will I still remain a soccer princess ? ....lmao ! ;)
Yes I am a Habs fan! I am really excited about the new season too. I am actually more excited for this season than the seasons past because hockey hasn't been on for a year. But Milan always comes first for me.
You met him?
He seems to come in to the gym quite often now. I see him every other day now.
Know anything about this Sidney Crosby that we signed to play under Jose ?
shevagol_7
18-07-2005, 10:20
Know anything about this Sidney Crosby that we signed to play under Jose ?
Huh?
I think the only way we can get Sidney Crosby is if we get lucky and get the number one draft pick.
I've seen him play a few times. He is unbelievable on the puck! He is a really big Canadiens fan as well.
Sorry I read it wrong..... no we did not sign him. Well if his heart is in Montreal maybe he will end up there...look at when Lindros started....
shevagol_7
18-07-2005, 10:43
Sorry I read it wrong..... no we did not sign him. Well if his heart is in Montreal maybe he will end up there...look at when Lindros started....
Let's hope so!
Crosby to Montreal? very unlikely but we are ok anyhow. Prospects were coming along fine and Gainey will continue his plans.
Of course we will be okay ....but did I read that Koivu is a free agent as of the end of July ? Still not sure how I feel about Riberio yet, I don't know if I'll ever respect him again after the "show" he pulled the last played season ...embarrassing
Lombardia
22-07-2005, 13:51
finally they sorted out a treaty, the free agency signing should be fun to watch this year. my team (the rangers) currently have 8 players on their book!
If they get Crosby they won't need anymore :D
Lombardia
22-07-2005, 16:01
i wouldn't mind if they acquired kovalchuk, nash on the wings with crosby centering:D, and lets says heately, lecavalier and pavel bure (i know he's retired and only has 1 leg but i still love him) as the second line, and bring back zubov and leetch. i miss them:(
now that would be a line up:D
Nash and Crosby together would be really something
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=131135&hubName=nhl
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature.asp?fid=7314
Pittsburgh won the lottery (and Crosby) Rangers got the 16th pick :eek: Habs the fifth which is really good
Lombardia
22-07-2005, 16:21
16th pick, oh bollocks. well i guess we'll finish outside the playoffs again for the 9th straight time:( we really need to stop getting 30+ players (lindros, messier, fleury, kasparitis, holik etc) who do badly and concentrate on getting young exciting prospects
Lombardia
22-07-2005, 16:22
reza who do you reckon are favs this year for the stanley cup? lightening? for my money i'd go for the canucks this year
also what do you make of the shoot-out rule? they'll be no tie's now.
Its so tough to say but Lightning have as good a chance as any I guess, probably will become clearer after teams sign and get their rosters sorted out
Forgot to add :D
I don't like shoot outs, in any sport
IMO the shoot out rule is a ridiculous addition to the sport. The one on one at the end of a game will have nothing to do with the game that was played. I don't understand their logic behind it. I just can't wrap my mind around this and quite frankly as a CANADIAN it's really making me nuts ! Why can a game not end in a tie, like the saying goes "IF it ain't broke don't fix it!"
Lombardia
30-07-2005, 12:26
this year, there will hopefully be some great young players coming through, apart from crosby, lets not forget ovechkin, malkin, jack johnson and kopitar. hopefully crosby and ovechkin can have a gerat battle for rookie of the year
shevagol_7
30-07-2005, 17:36
IMO the shoot out rule is a ridiculous addition to the sport. The one on one at the end of a game will have nothing to do with the game that was played. I don't understand their logic behind it. I just can't wrap my mind around this and quite frankly as a CANADIAN it's really making me nuts ! Why can a game not end in a tie, like the saying goes "IF it ain't broke don't fix it!"
I really like the shootouts actually. The team that loses doesn't lose anything through a shootout and the winning team just gets an extra point. They are much less of a lottery in hockey than in soccer. Most of the time the goalie have a good chance to save the shots. The shootouts are really exciting and get the fans into the game as well. I had a chance to catch a few shootouts here in the AHL, and I'll tell you the stadium gets LOUD in shootouts. I am a huge fan of the shootouts especially with the prospect of the young speedy Habs making fools out of goalies this coming season.
But to me the likelihood doesn't matter, its still a lottery not necessarily representing how the game itself was played
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By the way very odd pick by the habs picking a goalie
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/draft/
Rez how excited are you ? I was just elated to see that the Habs signed Kovalev, but even more so there is a certain amount of joy that lies in watching The Leafs crumble, in the Toronto Star yesturday an article actually referred to them as "the preverbial deer in the head lights".....and.... " they are looking around hoping for someone to call a timeout" ...LMAO! Now they are laying money on Lindros ? Ok so yes it looks like Philly will be the team to beat, but it will be joyous to watch the Habs play again !
Lombardia
05-08-2005, 10:42
as a rangers fan i'm seriously worried, everyone in our divison has got really strong teams, and as for us we'll have to rely on a past-it jagr and young unproven goaltenders and kasaparitis is our best defender!!
philadelphia have got forsberg, pittsurgb will have a front line of reccih-crosby and lemieux, the devils are always strong, thankfully we might be able to beat the islanders this year!
as for the habs, you've got one of the best goalies in the league and a good young team with a very good front line, i can see you coming second in your divisoin and a shoe in for the playoffs
Kovalev is great to have back no matter what he did it in that playoffs but Habs are still more depth on defense and not much room left in the cap so maybe a trade?
Souray Bouillon
Dandenault Komisarek
Rivet Markov
Hainsey
I agree, the Leafs situation is not too good :D as for the Rangers also the same I think...in my opinion the winners so far in the free agency are Anaheim, Calgary, Edmonton and Philly, they got very good players that will help in the next 2 or 3 seasons but after that who knows.
Next summer there are a bunch of unrestricted free agents coming like Lecavalier so some teams may just be saving on cap now anticipating for next summer
as for the habs, you've got one of the best goalies in the league and a good young team with a very good front line, i can see you coming second in your divisoin and a shoe in for the playoffs
I like the way you think Lombardia ;) ...lol
Christopher
05-08-2005, 11:17
LETS GO FLYERS!
It feels like the same week we got TO last year!
Sorry to see Roenick go but I think they are better in the long run and hopefully we will see a cup marching down broad street !
Lombardia
05-08-2005, 18:44
I like the way you think Lombardia ;) ...lol
yeah but i've probably given the habs the kiss of death, you'll probably do worse than the rangers now, and thats not good:D
Ha! Montreal laughs at the kiss of death ! ...lmao
I've been keeping a close eye on what they have been doing with the team, and I hate to say it but they are in for a good year, we have our staples...Theodore, Koivu, Zednick, Kovalev, Souray, Bonk...and we've added a few to mix it up. I'm excited to see what'll happen with the season. Of course I'm excited every year so I guess that doesn't count for much.
Does anyone know of a good forum for the Habs ?
Ha! Montreal laughs at the kiss of death ! ...lmao
I've been keeping a close eye on what they have been doing with the team, and I hate to say it but they are in for a good year, we have our staples...Theodore, Koivu, Zednick, Kovalev, Souray, Bonk...and we've added a few to mix it up. I'm excited to see what'll happen with the season. Of course I'm excited every year so I guess that doesn't count for much.
Does anyone know of a good forum for the Habs ?
Go Habs Go (http://www.habsworld.net) ;)
shevagol_7
07-08-2005, 15:44
Ha! Montreal laughs at the kiss of death ! ...lmao
I've been keeping a close eye on what they have been doing with the team, and I hate to say it but they are in for a good year, we have our staples...Theodore, Koivu, Zednick, Kovalev, Souray, Bonk...and we've added a few to mix it up.
Right now it looks like the Habs are in for a good season, but who knows what will happen in the "new" NHL. I still think that the Senators are still a little better than us but I think the new rule changes really favour faster and more skilled teams like the Canadiens. But definetly success hinges on the play of Theodore and I fully expect to see the Hart trophy winning goalie perform.
Ok so wait a second here...are all the Canadians here......HABS fans ?! Could that be true ?
I am in the middle of converting Nadir....he currently choses to follow the Sens ....Bleech ! ;)
I have to say I am having a hard time staying focused on anything but the upcoming season..... I fear I may only be found on a Habs forum after October.....ok ok you can all stop applauding now ....lol
I'm certainly happy to see the Canadiens have signed Dagenais for another year, not only was he in the top five for goals, but that lad is a BIG boy !.....
Christopher
30-08-2005, 19:58
I found out today that my father and I have a ticket package to flyers games this year YEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHAWWWWWWW (and no most people from Philly don't say yeewhhaww)
Right now I am thinking that the Flyers, Bruins, sadly the Lightning, Devils, Penguins will be the class of the East . . . sad to see Toronto take its lumps in free agency even though I hated them I admired their playing style . . . the Hab's need to get good again too so they can keep their streak of winning one stanley cup every decade alive (that is impressive) I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE PUCK TO DROP!
When the season will start? My favorites are Flames [W] and Sens [E]. :)
October 5th is opening day with all 30 teams in action
Lombardia
01-09-2005, 16:20
yep and they're showing rangers v philly:D hopefully we can shut forsberg up and sneak a win, but that isn't going ot happen, i pred philly 5-2 rangers:(
20 more sleeps until the puck drops !!!...lol
:1ole:
When the season will start? My favorites are Flames [W] and Sens [E]. :)
yay ;) sens fan! in lithuania !!! :27rr: hehe
hitmannq8
15-09-2005, 11:18
hey guys..
since im living in montreal, everyone around has told me that i have to watch hockey, and im really looking forward to it..
although i need to know a few things:
does montreal have a good team compared to the others in our league? Are we the Milan of america? Do we have good history? How long is the game? I think its 20 mins for a third.. then a break(how long?) then another 20 mins then break then 20 mins.. if it ends up as a tie, there will always be over time, is that correct? how will it be decided in over time? Golden goal? or how many minutes will be given?
Who is our star player to look forward to? Our first game is Sep 18 vs Atlanta Thrashers.. pre-season friendly.. how expensive is a season-ticket? and a normal ticket? I heard i can get as cheap as 30 dollars, but are the seats good? I'd like to sit somewhere where i can be around the crazy fans and watch the game..
Historically Montreal are the best with the most championships, but the last time Montreal won the Stanley Cup was in 1993 and hasn't been the best team but certainly not the worst since then. Things are looking better since two or three years and there is progress with a young, exciting team.
The game is three 20 minute periods with 15 minute breaks, with a 5 min. overtime if there is a tie and starting this season a shootout if it remains tied after that.
Seats are pretty difficult to find but especially more so for saturday night games or games vs Toronto Maple Leafs...I really don't know how much a season ticket is these days but back in previous years there used to be a waiting list for one...been away from Montreal too long. Games are always crazy but obviously nothing like a football game and if you find single tickets I believe 30 or so is the cheapest...I used to attend games in mid 90s and I could get a 'bad' seat for 20 dollars.
Our current stars are captain and center Saku Koivu (he is Finnish), Alexei Kovalev (high scoring russian) and goalie Jose Theodore.
Go Habs Go
hey guys..
since im living in montreal, everyone around has told me that i have to watch hockey, and im really looking forward to it..
although i need to know a few things:
does montreal have a good team compared to the others in our league? Are we the Milan of america? Do we have good history? How long is the game? I think its 20 mins for a third.. then a break(how long?) then another 20 mins then break then 20 mins.. if it ends up as a tie, there will always be over time, is that correct? how will it be decided in over time? Golden goal? or how many minutes will be given?
Who is our star player to look forward to? Our first game is Sep 18 vs Atlanta Thrashers.. pre-season friendly.. how expensive is a season-ticket? and a normal ticket? I heard i can get as cheap as 30 dollars, but are the seats good? I'd like to sit somewhere where i can be around the crazy fans and watch the game..
Hitman of course you have to be a Habs fan. I don't think any Montrealers would accept any less. One thing I can tell you about Montreal fans is unlike other fans they are NOT bandwagon supporters, in otherwords they are with them think and thin.
As Rez said we are the winniest tean in the NHL with an amazing 24 Stanley Cups and were home to some of the greatest hockey players to ever play the game. Patrick Roy, Henri Richard, Guy Lafleur, Jean Beliveau and Ken Dryden. Now we house Koivu, Kovalev, Zednick and Souray and of course Theodore....all of which are great in their own right. Oh yea if an opposing teams fan mentions the Riberio incident, well we don't even try to defend that one...lol I also like the fact that our team is about 45% Canadian born :5ok:
Our greatest rival is by far the Toronto Maple Leafs and trust me we HATE them ! Their supporsts will rival Inter's any day of the week.
As far as tickets go they go on sale this Saturday at 10 am and are very resonable. I believe the cheapest being $27.00. But Billy has said that if you go to Bell Centre just prior to a game you are able to get tickets outside the stadium. As far as where to go to watch with other Habs fans you'll have to check with Billy on that as well.
I hope you come to enjoy the game as much as we do here. If you have any other questions, I love to talk about hockey !!!
Oh yes and when we say Habs it's in Reference to Les Habitants...you'll see the "H" inside the large "C" on their logo
There is a preseason game on September 22nd against Toronto...but it prpbably won't be the A lines...best to wait for regular season.
If you want to check on things for yourself, www.canadiens.com is a great site.
ENJOY !!!
Billy_Montreal
15-09-2005, 13:04
hey guys..
since im living in montreal, everyone around has told me that i have to watch hockey, and im really looking forward to it..
although i need to know a few things:
does montreal have a good team compared to the others in our league? Are we the Milan of america? Do we have good history? How long is the game? I think its 20 mins for a third.. then a break(how long?) then another 20 mins then break then 20 mins.. if it ends up as a tie, there will always be over time, is that correct? how will it be decided in over time? Golden goal? or how many minutes will be given?
Who is our star player to look forward to? Our first game is Sep 18 vs Atlanta Thrashers.. pre-season friendly.. how expensive is a season-ticket? and a normal ticket? I heard i can get as cheap as 30 dollars, but are the seats good? I'd like to sit somewhere where i can be around the crazy fans and watch the game..
Hitman..I didn't know you are now a Montrealer. Yes, season tickets are expensive...thousands...some people buy in groups of 4 and split the costs and games....also gives you first choice for playoff tickets.
To be honest everyone in Montreal is a habs fan but not everyone follows passionately except when its playoff time ... then Montreal will become NUTS.
Even though I live (as you do) in what is probably the 'heart land' of hockey I still watch 3 times more soccer matches and coverage than Hockey. However, with the Canadiens and hockey one always knows what is going on even if you follow passively because its on the cover of newspapers and on literally every talk radio show and conversation in and around town.
yay ;) sens fan! in lithuania !!! :27rr: heheI really do not understand you - are you ironic or are you happy about it :rollani: :dontkn:
:)
WE GOT TICKETS ...WE GOT TICKETS !!!!!!
Heading to Montreal to watch Toronto get their butts kicked !
Christopher
19-09-2005, 11:36
So I see Les Habitants have a taken the homeless expos mascot off welfare and gave him a new job. That's pretty cool, we don't have a mascot . . . not much you can do for a team named the Flyers whose logo is a "winged P"
WE GOT TICKETS ...WE GOT TICKETS !!!!!!
Heading to Montreal to watch Toronto get their butts kicked !
:cool: Go Habs Go
Christopher
20-09-2005, 11:56
I have my first pre season game this weekend against the crapitols
LETS GO FLYERS !
Hitmannq8 did you get all the information you needed to join us as a full fledged Canadiens fan ? ...lol Pay special attention to the Toronto/Montreal games as they have a special kind of hockey intensity ...lol
Canadiens / Leafs preseason tonight ...in Hamilton...wth ? ...lol
Actually my bro is a big Leafs fan. Once he was very young, me and my dad were looking for a cap in local marketplace. And we found one with Maple Leafs logo. That cap was a birthday gift for my bro. Thus from that time he bacame Toronto Maple Leafs fan.
However one day when we were playing outside, a mob of brats attacked my bro and took his cap from his head. I started to run after them but they threw the cap to each other so that I could not catch the one with it. We caught one guy but he told nothing. Me and my friends beat him a bit but he was still scilent. That is the end of that cap but a start of neverending love to Leafs by my bro.
By the way, as I have mentioned earlier I am a Flames and Sens fan :cool:
Dr Milano
22-09-2005, 10:20
Actually my bro is a big Leafs fan. Once he was very young, me and my dad were looking for a cap in local marketplace. And we found one with Maple Leafs logo. That cap was a birthday gift for my bro. Thus from that time he bacame Toronto Maple Leafs fan.
However one day when we were playing outside, a mob of brats attacked my bro and took his cap from his head. I started to run after them but they threw the cap to each other so that I could not catch the one with it. We caught one guy but he told nothing. Me and my friends beat him a bit but he was still scilent. That is the end of that cap but a start of neverending love to Leafs by my bro.
By the way, as I have mentioned earlier I am a Flames and Sens fan :cool: flames are good whoever they are lol
Go Maple Leafs! LOL!
GO LEAFS ? :yuck:
You couldn't find a real team to cheer for ? Ok so including you, the official counts of Leafs fans is 4 ....lol
Dr Milano
22-09-2005, 14:22
GO LEAFS ? :yuck:
You couldn't find a real team to cheer for ? Ok so including you, the official counts of Leafs fans is 4 ....lol
Hey can someone fill me in sorry but i know this is american and canadian sort of sport heck what does nhl even stand for
Not sure what you are asking exactly. NHL stands for National Hockey League.
Canadiens = Milan
Leafs = Inter .....that's the best I can explain it to a soccer fan ...lol
hitmannq8
22-09-2005, 20:00
ATM its 3-1 to the leafs!!
is there any TV channel that broadcasts the games? i looked for so long but can't find any..
ATM its 3-1 to the leafs!!
is there any TV channel that broadcasts the games? i looked for so long but can't find any..
The result was Leafs 4 - 3 Habs.
It wasn't aired on any channel except for Leafs tv however that will change October 5th once the regular season starts. Hockey night in Canada airs on probably about 8 stations...lol Yes we love our hockey ! As for the game tonight, we did really well since not only did our top players not play they didn't even dress. The Leafs however had Sundin and Tucker among their lines
hitmannq8
23-09-2005, 01:37
Who is our starting lineup? Do we have a Shevchenko? Do we have a Pirlo? Do we have a player that we hate? Did we make any new major signings for this year? is our squad young or very old they might retire?
do we only have "Go habs go" ? aren't there any other songs?
btw we are playing the Leafs at Bell Centre on Saturday i think..
Canadiens = Milan
Leafs = Inter .....that's the best I can explain it to a soccer fan ...lol:doh: canadiens ain't Milan... they are juve/inter/roma etc. :5dito: :yuck: and Milan is Flames :firedev: RED DEVILS :de3:
Our starting line up is Koivu, Kovalev and Zednik. Hockey differs from soccer in such that each team is not blessed with a Sheva, once in a while you get a Wayne or a Mario that comes along, but for the most part the strength in a team comes for the forward lines collectively. I personally do not hate any one particular player on the team however I think most Habs fans will agree that we are often embarrassed by the antics of Mike Ribeiro. Although I did read an article yesturday where Theodore was stated as saying that Mike has grown up a lot and is not the same player he was, hopefully meaning, he will more effectively be using his talents. As far as new signings, this year we have only added Mathieu Dandenault a strong and very LARGE defenceman.....lol He is a force in his own right. The age of our team.... well we are currently running a fairly young team, Kovalev I believe is our oldest player at 32 and that is not old at all by hockey standards. Oh and last but not least there aren't "songs" to speak of, just a lot of yelling and cheering and jumping up and down ....Enjoy !
Rae as far as your perspective in comparing Montreal to the likes of Inter and Juve, that is YOUR opinion and thusly cannot be disputed, however I don't agree with you at all. Montreal has heart, soul and a love of the sport that compares to few, Toronto on the other hand is a dirty, cheating team. THAT is my opinion......
Billy_Montreal
23-09-2005, 12:59
:doh: canadiens ain't Milan... they are juve/inter/roma etc. :5dito: :yuck: and Milan is Flames :firedev: RED DEVILS :de3:
No NHL team is Juve...Juve has a history of drug use (EPO scandal) and favortism (see their last 5 scudetto's). No team has such a bad reputation. Especially not Montreal who have always won with class.
As for Inter?? Being Inter implies buying up tons of talented players but having a team with no heart..how can Montreal be Inter when they barely buy big name stars..in fact they have not in a long time ... Koivu is our biggest name and he was drafted...before him was Patrick Roy..also drafted.
Christopher
23-09-2005, 17:36
I just wanted to let you all know something . . . .
THE FLYERS ARE GOING TO WIN . . . . THE STANLEY CUP!
Ah Muffin, you hang onto that dream, that's so sweet .....lol ;)
Dr Milano
24-09-2005, 08:53
NHl is boring Basketball is better
Then don't come in and read the thread, I think the title is self explanatory as to what we will be talking about.....geesh Dr.
Dr Milano
24-09-2005, 08:57
Then don't come in and read the thread, I think the title is self explanatory as to what we will be talking about.....geesh Dr.
gessshh is that ur word or something ur using quiet a lot and if u think im dumb just look at my record in school
First of all ....I have used it TWICE, and only in relation to you ! Secondly I didn't say anything about you being dumb did I ?
Milano there is a Basketball thread right below this one.......
Back to the NHL
Dr Milano
24-09-2005, 09:02
First of all ....I have used it TWICE, and only in relation to you ! Secondly I didn't say anything about you being dumb did I ?
Milano there is a Basketball thread right below this one.......
Back to the NHL
is thier ok im going thier bye nhl american sport and canadian
NHl is boring Basketball is better
You're kidding right???? Hockey is way better than basketball. It's soccer on ice my friend and a red card is only a couple of minutes in the box. And then you can put a big hurt on the other team.! :swars:
Dr Milano
24-09-2005, 09:06
You're kidding right???? Hockey is way better than basketball. It's soccer on ice my friend and a red card is only a couple of minutes in the box. And then you can put a big hurt on the other team.! :swars:
ok that changes my mind basketball is crap anyways can u guys tell me some teams i will start watching nhl now a team please that i can support
You're kidding right???? Hockey is way better than basketball. It's soccer on ice my friend and a red card is only a couple of minutes in the box. And then you can put a big hurt on the other team.! :swars::grinser: my friend :grinser:
Basketball is more popular game in world, that's for sure. Just look at the situation in Europe - there are only Czech Republic, Sweden, Finland, Latvia and Russia which find ice hocky more exciting than basketball. Plusing two north american states there are only 7 countries which enjoy that so much. Basketball has far more states in it's possession ;)
Moreover, as I am Lithuanian [you know that all people of Lithuania are crazy about Basketball] I prefer basketball, but I do not diminish the charm of ice hockey. I like it very much also :respect:
Anyway...
Go Flames Go
:devil:
Dr Milano
24-09-2005, 09:13
:grinser: my friend :grinser:
Basketball is more popular game in world, that's for sure. Just look at the situation in Europe - there are only Czech Republic, Sweden, Finland, Latvia and Russia which find ice hocky more exciting than basketball. Plusing two north american states there are only 7 countries which enjoy that so much. Basketball has far more states in it's possession ;)
Moreover, as I am Lithuanian [you know that all people of Lithuania are crazy about Basketball] I prefer basketball, but I do not diminish the charm of ice hockey. I like it very much also :respect:
Anyway...
Go Flames Go
:devil:it seems u all have different opinions i respect them all and i respect both these sports
It's not a popularity contest, you either like a sport or you don't, simple as that ! No matter who watches in what country is not going to affect my opinion on what I like....
I do not want to convince you to change yer mind or smth else... I just reacted to Kui's post... he said that ice hockey is way better that basketball... I can not coincide with such statement... no way :grinser:
Christopher
26-09-2005, 20:53
ok that changes my mind basketball is crap anyways can u guys tell me some teams i will start watching nhl now a team please that i can support
You should definitely follow the Philadelphia Flyers, we are a spirited bunch that like the physical style of hockey ie Hitting and Fighting . . . and the Flyers are a perenial power house.
Christopher
26-09-2005, 20:55
Ah Muffin, you hang onto that dream, that's so sweet .....lol ;)
Hey Sugar I am sending you an invitation to the parade down broad street after we win the cup !
hitmannq8
27-09-2005, 01:23
hmm so if we dont have bigname players, we are a team that is very well organized and have no stars? are we something like PSV last year?
is our coach good? how long has he been with us?
who is the ronaldinho of hockey at the moment? and who is the maradona of hockey?
Hey Sugar I am sending you an invitation to the parade down broad street after we win the cup !
Let me tell you Chris....IF in fact the Flyers win the cup this year I will be there right with ya with freakin bells on I swear ! ....lol
It's NOT gonna happen ! But hang on to the dream Chris, hang on tight ! ;)
Hitmannq8 it's not that we don't have big name players, we do, but I guess that is where hockey differs from soccer. The lines are more effective than the individual players ie. Koivu, Kovalev and Zednick. The players really do depend on each other. We have a lot of great players, of course you have to remember that I am completely biased when speaking about the Habs.
Our coach is Claude Julien, he came to Montreal in January 2003 from the Hamilton Bulldogs, which is our farm team.
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