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padee

06-03-2005, 18:27

Mey

06-03-2005, 19:16

I wished it was scheduled around the time I will be visitting Italy which is highly unlikely :(

Billy_Montreal

06-03-2005, 21:24

Has date for this game been decided yet or will it be nearer the time? Is it announced on the AC website?

I am travelling from UK but need to know if game is the Sat or Sun for flights.

Cheers

:p017:

It is indeed on May 8th and that is a Sunday. I too will be attending that game (not yet finalized) and hopefully will meet up with our very crazy Member Giovanni :gun:

derekhski

06-03-2005, 23:36

padee

07-03-2005, 04:14

Will tickets be sold on acmilan.com for this one? Any idea when they will decide if it is the 8th or the 7th that the game is played....

Billy_Montreal

07-03-2005, 22:45

Hey, Acmilan_montreal I will be in Milan for the game also. It would be cool to get together with some others for the site, put faces with the names, grab some beer, and watch milan crush Juve..... When are you arriving in Milan? I will probably be there on May 5-6th, then head towards the beach, and then Paris....... What are your plans?
not sure yet..I may hook up with Giovanni depending on whether I actually make it...
Beer..grappa whatever...sounds good

People call me BILLY :)

derekhski

08-03-2005, 02:24

As the date gets closer, I drop you a note. I'm about 90% sure I will be at the game, and would like to meet some poeple to hang with.....

derekhski

08-03-2005, 02:27

Mey, when are you going over? maybe you can make it to the last game, and be in the Celebration of the 18th Cup.... That would be pretty big!

Golden

08-03-2005, 05:28

Game is scheduled for sunday but CL semi final will be played following tuesday/wednesday.So,if either Milan or Juventus make it to the semifinal game will be moved to saturday evening.
I have reserved ticket for first ring in Curva Sud.Fortunately for me,I have much shorter trip.I am taking ferry over Adriatic to Ancona and then train to Milano.I hope I'll see some of you there.We can have a couple of beers and a lough and then we can try to find some juventini :hammer:

Stefan

08-03-2005, 08:14

No padee, I don't think tickets will be available on the website. I'm pretty sure tickets for juve and inter games aren't sold online.

I'm just keeping my fingers crossed the game will be shown on Eurosport!

padee

08-03-2005, 18:07

Golden - how were you able to reserve a seat?

mk18

08-03-2005, 18:56

ahhhhh... i have to check when i finish my exams, if i do anytime before the game then i think im going there.. INSHALLAH!!!

Billy_Montreal

08-03-2005, 21:11

As the date gets closer, I drop you a note. I'm about 90% sure I will be at the game, and would like to meet some poeple to hang with.....

noted. I'm currently looking at Airline prices...its kind of long trip from Montreal. That said, if I do make the trip I plan to attend even if I don't have tickets reserved. Worse case I'll get 'ripped off' by some scalper..bah its Milan-Juve! ;)

derekhski

09-03-2005, 14:37

Billy, Yes, Its a long trip from Montreal, also for Portland, Oregon. I'm looking at about $7 - $900.00 for my flight..... Yeah Tickets are going to be tough, never had much success with buying on the website, failures and slow. Of the 4-5 games I've seen, I have bought 4 tickets via scalpers. Found that they hang out at the Milan Point store, two and three days ahead of the game. I carry a Pen and Note Pad to write pricing on, as to the fact that I speak very little Italian........ Been successful at getting tickets this way. The only ones that were really high were the Semi Finals against Inter in the CL two season ago, and the Real M/Juv game the next day...... I'll keep in contact with you over the next few weeks, and if you make we can grab a beer in Milan.

Derek

Billy_Montreal

13-03-2005, 22:47

sounds good..keep me updated.

Franco6

14-03-2005, 07:51

I'm trying to make it for this game. The big problem is money, I guess I would be asking some help to dad!!!

derekhski

14-03-2005, 11:30

Franco, Keep us all posted if you are going to make it. There could be a mix of various Milan Mania members going. Myself out of USA, Billy form Canada, then of course yourself. I think that it could be fun for us to all meet, even if its only for a beer prior to kick off...... :beer: I may only be in Milan for Sat and Sunday, since I'm probably going to stop in Frankfurt and visit family during my trip....... See ya, Derek

padee

14-03-2005, 14:38

If anyone can get a ticket let me know.

Franco6

14-03-2005, 14:45

OK mates, maybe we'll enter together in the curva sud with our Italian buddy Don Giovanni

hitmannq8

14-03-2005, 20:03

the game will be on sunday unless u guys think Milan will not reach the semi's in CL! Which is a 0% chance!

Billy_Montreal

14-03-2005, 23:24

OK mates, maybe we'll enter together in the curva sud with our Italian buddy Don Giovanni

Franco..that was my plan actually...to see the DON in Milan. Hopefully everything will work out...try to make it..the more the crazier :p283:

wils6000

15-03-2005, 06:50

hi

i need to book flights for milan juventus game and obviously need to know when game will be played - so i looked back at 2002/03 seaosn when we won - and played inter in semis and juve played in other semi -which could happen this season . Serie A game s - final 4 fixtures must be played at same time and are always scheduled so that no one has unfair advantaage - with this in mind these ar ethe fixtures that miolan played that season

4th may league game - 7th may semi final v inter
11th may league game -
13th may- 2nd leg vs inter- so only two days later !!!!

so by my thinking the league ficture with juventus will not be moved from the 8th May as whole fixture list would have to be moved- plus if inter are in semis as well they will have to play home games diff week as well and so I think that the fixtures will remain the same

what do u all think

derekhski

19-03-2005, 17:10

Franco, Billy and anyone else wanting to gettogether and have a beer, two, three :beer: before the game, Milan Juve. I saw a great deal from Lufthansa today and bought :happy: . I arrive in Milan on April 28th :clap: , and depart Monday May 9th :undecide: . I'm keeping my hopes up that we dominate in the CL so I may also see a semi finals match :pp20: ?? That would be cool. So if anyone finds themselves in Milan arround game time, lets meet. Derek

Franco6

20-03-2005, 06:52

I think if we pass the second leg of the semi final will be away. Check it well before planning.

Golden

22-03-2005, 06:15

Golden - how were you able to reserve a seat
I have a friend who is working in travel agency and she has a lot to do with Italians since many of them are coming over here.One of her italian counterparts have rights to sell tickets for Milan matches and thats how I was able to buy it.All I need to do is pick up the ticket when I come to Milano.I've done it before and it works fine.

Fuggah

01-04-2005, 08:05

Hi all,

I've enjoyed reading your site over the last couple of weeks. I'm booked to travel over to Milan for the Juve game on 8th May and I've been reading your site in the hope of getting some pointers on where I should go for tickets.
It would seem I'm going to have to get tickets from an 'unofficial' source i.e. a tout. This being the case am I best heading up to Milan Point (is that near the stadium?) on the Friday and Saturday before the game or is Sunday the best time to try to talk to these touts?
Is selling / buying tickets like this strictly legal? Should I have one eye over my shoulder for the police. I only ask as here in Ireland the police don't look to kindly on touts.
Thanks for all your help.

Forza Milan!

Stefan

01-04-2005, 09:50

Hi Fuggah,

Although buying tickets from touts isn't legal in Italy (as far as I know) the police around the San Siro really don't seem that bothered from what I've experienced. I went to collect some official tickets on the day of a match, and there were touts stood next to the kiosks selling tickets and no-one was bothered! Certainly from what I've experienced, you shouldn't get any trouble from the police.

There will be lots of touts all around the ground and also in the underground station at Lotto-Fiera 2. You might be better off going to the ground the day before, because by the time it gets to the match, they'll be charging more for tickets.

Hope this helps.

derekhski

01-04-2005, 12:03

Hi Fuggah, On your question of where to get tickets, Stadium? Milan Point? I have some experience in buying from the touts at the Milan Point store. It happened more by accident than intent the first time. I wanted tickets to the CL in 2002, and went out to the Milan Point store to buy, but they were sold out. There were three maybe four differnt guys selling right in front of the store. As a result I have purchased tickets at Milan point, three, four times now, including Milan vs. Inter in the semi's F CL in 2003. I ussually buy the tickets, three maybe four days before the game, do your best to talk them down in price, They start high, but will negotiate.....Do it with a smile, and a hand shake or two, and yo'll do better. I have seen these same guys at the stadium the day of the game.
Milan point is out via Torino, 15 min walk for the Plaza Domo (Central square). The store is wother a vist, but expensive.

I too never felt any concern over the police......they seem to havve better things to do.....

Fuggah

05-04-2005, 03:38

Franco6

05-04-2005, 11:50

I think you're on the right track, if you tend to buy them 5 hours before the game. If you are a member of Milan club you can get them at about 30euros each

derekhski

05-04-2005, 16:32

Thanks for the advice guys. I'll see how I get on as I'm usually hopeless at haggling! What kind of price were you paying for the tickets? I'm hoping to get 2 for less than €200. Am I being far too optimistic?

For the semi's CL 2003, Milan-Inter, I paid 90,00 Euro's, Maybe 100,00, it's been quite some time. If your not good at haggling, I recommend the note pad and pen, and write the price you will pay........ You can always walk away, or they might??
Derek

Billy_Montreal

11-04-2005, 12:28

As luck would have it I have to be close to Italy for a business trip in that week so I will be coming down to Milan for the game. I know a few people may make it such as Derek, Haroon, Franco, Giovanni, etc. I'm still not sure where or how to get a ticket but I don't mind spending a few extra dollars for a ticket once I am there.
My question is..are the Curva tickets numbered or are they a basic "sit where you will" system?
The date is approaching...make yourselves heard if you are coming!

Franco6

11-04-2005, 14:20

Billy_Montreal

11-04-2005, 15:25

In the curva its on first come first serve basis, in the curva only. About the tickets, there will be touts near the stadium surely. We at the Milan club will have tickets for good prices BUT..... many people from the club will go so I don't think there will be tickets available. The first priorities go for members.

Grazie Franco...

It should not be a problem as I spoke to someone from the Assoc. Ital. Milan clubs...since we are a foreign club and barely make it they said getting a ticket is no problem.
By the way, what AREA do I want to get tickets in? I don't want to end up sitting in the visitors curva :pom:

Franco6

11-04-2005, 16:12

LOL.... if you go in the curva you can get any ticket as long as its not 3rd ring blu or 3rd ring green. The curva is 2nd ring blue, while the juve merda fans will be in the 1st ring green section.

If you'll have the 1st or 2nd ring red or orange, you may go in the curva without problems, but you have to be there early since its on first come first serve.

hitmannq8

12-04-2005, 02:07

Just for ur info the game is now May 15th.

killiegradge

12-04-2005, 03:49

Just for ur info the game is now May 15th.
Where do you get that info from???

wils6000

12-04-2005, 03:49

I dont think game is on 15th May - it is still 8th May

we play Lecce away on the 15th !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

because c.league semi ison 3/4 th May- the Milan -Juve game shouldnt move as no game will affect it - and they like to have last four fixtures at same time and date for whole serie A fixtures.

derekhski

12-04-2005, 16:46

Hey, Billy I will most certainly be there, the San Sari for the Game May 8th...... I will also hopefully catch the 2nd leg of the CL semi's on 5.3 tues or 5.4 wed. I arrive in Milan on 4.28 and depart on 5.9 monday.
Tickets of course will be the toughtest part. I will try to buy via the internet, but expect to geet from someone a couple days before the game..
Still need to book out my hotel and all..... I wont stay in Milan all week, but go hiking and swimming on the Riveara.... Yeah sunny warm

Billy_Montreal

13-04-2005, 13:17

I will be in Milan on the Friday and departing the day after the game ... these are my preliminary plans. That said, I will be at the game..I just have to determine how long I will be in Milan. The game is still on the 8th of May..the season is re-adjusted on April 20 and from then it will be back on track.
So no the game is not on May 15.
Derek..I figure worse case I'll buy tickets on the street a few days before the match..if I made it that far whats a few extra bucks!

Staci

15-04-2005, 09:27

....all I can hope for is that the game will be aired here :(

Billy_Montreal

15-04-2005, 10:24

....all I can hope for is that the game will be aired here :(

I would be very surprised if TLN would not air it....anyhow, just watch it on RAI at a bar in Woodbridge or some Italian area :D

Staci

15-04-2005, 11:08

I am sure yes that TLN will air it ....but it's always in Italian ...lol

Billy_Montreal

17-04-2005, 21:42

I am sure yes that TLN will air it ....but it's always in Italian ...lol

thats ok I'm a good tutor :devs:

derekhski

18-04-2005, 11:57

Billy, I'll be doing the same, buying and paying a little extra. I totally agree with the "came this far, whats a couple extra bucks" If I find a great deal the week before the game, should I grab you a ticket? (I hoping the earlier the cheaper?) I'm in Milan beggining on April 28th, will try to find tickets that day, then head south to the beaches, and also north to Germany to visit family for a couple days, then return to Milan for the game. I also fly out May 9th. This game could possibly be the make or break, if we go in only 3 points under, unless Juve fails to winner in the next two weeks.....

Franco6

20-04-2005, 12:00

I think hotel prices will be of about 100euros per night!! Am I right?? DAM IT

rae

20-04-2005, 12:32

Maldini: Nothing Is Compromised
4/20/2005 3:51:00 PM
The 3 point gap from Juventus does not worry the Milan captain.
With 7 matchdays to go and a 3 point deficit from the Bianconeri, many believe that the Scudetto is heading back towards Turin. However, Paolo Maldini does not agree and finds analogies in previous seasons to prove this.

“In the past we can find good examples. And if we won a Scudetto by recovering a 7 point difference in 7 matchdays, I don’t understand why we should think that for Milan everything is compromised. With 3 points to recover in 7 matches, including the direct encounter, feeling defeated is absurd.”

Maldini is referring to the 1998/99 season which the Rossoneri won after recovering 7 points in 7 matchdays from Lazio.

Issue: Goal.com (http://www.goal.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=57823&progr=6)We can do it. Inter can help us. They are our younger bros :star: :strong:

killiegradge

20-04-2005, 16:21

I checked the hotel we have stayed in 3x this season.Via Ryanair.com the room would be Euros 122 for 2 night for a twin room.31 euros per night per person Hotel Adam.

Billy_Montreal

20-04-2005, 20:46

I think hotel prices will be of about 100euros per night!! Am I right?? DAM IT

yes, more or less. I already booked a hotel close the train station for easy access to the downtown core.
Franco: are you going for sure?

diavolo sono io

20-04-2005, 21:31

I checked the hotel we have stayed in 3x this season.Via Ryanair.com the room would be Euros 122 for 2 night for a twin room.31 euros per night per person Hotel Adam.

I have stayed the last couple of years at Hotel Ambrosiana at Via Plinio, Euro 60 per room per night - nothing spectacular but very decent. 10 mins walk to Lima metro for the ride to via mazzani to switch to tram no 16 for san siro.

diavolo sono io

20-04-2005, 21:32

I have stayed the last couple of years at Hotel Ambrosiana at Via Plinio, Euro 60 per room per night - nothing spectacular but very decent. 10 mins walk to Lima metro for the ride to via mazzani to switch to tram no 16 for san siro.

and it is close to stazione centrale.

Franco6

21-04-2005, 11:29

Franco: are you going for sure?

yes, but I have a little problem... hotel prices in Milan are high, cannot find one at about 50 euros per night or less, and 99% my hotel will be at Novara

Henrik

21-04-2005, 15:06

"Good News" from Channel 4:

Zlatan ban rules out Milan clash
Thursday 21 April, 2005
Francesco Totti has been given a five-match ban, while Zlatan Ibrahimovic's three-game stop rules him out of the Milan showdown.

Ibrahimovic was going to be suspended for this Sunday's trip to Lazio anyway after he was booked in the 1-0 defeat to Inter, but TV evidence was also used for his off the ball clash with Ivan Cordoba.

Not witnessed by the officials, it prompted another two-match ban that will rule the Juventus striker out of games against Bologna and Milan. It's almost certain Juve will appeal to get the suspension reduced.

That lash out on Cordoba wasn't the only incident involving Ibrahimovic during the game, as he also headbutted Sinisa Mihajlovic.

Roma captain Totti was sent off in yesterday's 2-0 home loss to Siena for striking Francesco Colonnese in an off the ball incident, but the referee's report also noted another kick at the same player earlier on.

The linesman spotted the punch and suggested the Italian international be shown his second red card of the season, making him Roma’s least disciplined player with 12 bookings completing his tally of shame.

“We will fine the maximum 30 per cent of Totti’s monthly wages,” announced Giallorossi Coach Bruno Conti. “We must also point out that he is subjected to constant provocation. He has to rise above it, but the referees should also look out for this treatment.”

The fine – which should amount to £82,000 – is a clear signal that the club is increasingly frustrated with Totti’s attitude and lack of leadership skills. He will only be able to play one more Serie A game this season - the closer against Chievo - missing out on Sampdoria, Brescia, Parma, Atalanta and the Rome derby.

“There are times in which a player has to put the club first,” continued Conti. “These incidents have to be eliminated from his game and everyone saw what happened so I am not here to defend him. Francesco also knows what he did and will have the opportunity to reflect on his behaviour.”

It is curious timing, as this afternoon Totti was also was fined £10,250 for statements made after their Week 27 2-1 defeat to Juventus, in which he accused the referee of rigging the match in favour of the Bianconeri.

Xudong

21-04-2005, 15:20

If that sucker Ibra can't make it to San Siro, I will be so happy. Wonder what Dopers will do. :) Let's hope that they will lose all the 9 points so that our last three games will be easier. :v103: And maybe our dear cousin can surpass them. I hate Doper more than Perdenti. :D

Henrik

21-04-2005, 15:30

btw, I edited this thread to become the pre-game thread. Hope noone minds :)

almilan

21-04-2005, 16:46

good news with zlatan but dont rule out moggi gettin the ban reduced cant wait for the game so wish i was going but my exams start the week after

moggi moaning because for once he is not getting his own way:

Moggi: Abolish video evidence Friday 22 April, 2005

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Juventus director general Luciano Moggi has launched a tirade on the “biased” use of video evidence and demanded a change in the rules.

The Bianconeri chief was furious after Zlatan Ibrahimovic was handed a three-match ban for striking Ivan Cordoba in an off the ball incident during Wednesday’s 1-0 defeat to Inter.

“It is right to combat violence and video evidence is necessary, but the images used should not be provided by television companies,” said Moggi in an official statement.

“As far as we are concerned, the footage should come from the Federation and be handed over only when the Disciplinary Commission requests it. We cannot put the fate of the Scudetto in the hands of individual television directors.”

Ibrahimovic was caught on camera lashing out at Cordoba during the closing stages of the match and were glimpsed in a corner of the wide shot of the pitch by pay-per-view television company Sky.

“Cordoba stood on his foot and Ibrahimovic pushed him away,” insisted Moggi. “It was not a violent action and nobody in the stadium even realised it had happened.”

Francesco Totti was given a five-match ban for his clash with Francesco Colonnese in Siena’s 2-0 win at Roma that same evening, while earlier this month Giallorossi player Leandro Cufre was suspended for two matches for a similar incident to that of Ibrahimovic.

“Other more serious incidents around the country weren’t even considered by the Disciplinary Commission. This is why video evidence is necessary as long as it is the same for everyone. The only way to guarantee that is to have the footage pass through the Federation first.”

There is more to this than meets the eye, as Moggi also gave another interview in which he suggested that Milan director Adriano Galliani – who is also President of the Lega Calcio, which runs the Disciplinary Commission – had a part to play.

“It really took an eagle-eyed director to spot that incident and I’d like to thank this man for the good work he has done for the community at large,” said a deeply sarcastic Moggi.

“I must say I’m not remotely surprised that Ibrahimovic is suspended for the Milan game on May 8. It really is a quite remarkable coincidence, isn’t it?”

zlatanov

28-04-2005, 11:40

Ibrahimovich WILL DEFINITELY MISS the big game on May 8th for the Disciplinary Committee has just REFUSED to reduce his ban. :nana:
For those who understand Italian - http://www.tgcom.it/sport/articoli/articolo254841.shtml

rae

29-04-2005, 03:18

Who the f*ck is Trefoloni? :rollani:

sehnsucht79

29-04-2005, 05:12

The very, very pale ref. His face looks like plastic.

rae

29-04-2005, 05:18

You mean something between bianco and nero? No :rollani:

sehnsucht79

29-04-2005, 05:23

Bah.

Rae, it seems like you are forever online at MM ;)

rae

29-04-2005, 05:28

Bah.

Rae, it seems like you are forever online at MM ;)nah... only whe i have spare time :u56:

but, I do not get where are the simmilarities between that pale-faced guy and me forever online at MM? :rollani:

sehnsucht79

29-04-2005, 05:33

No similarities. Truth be told I wasnt really getting what you were trying to convey. You asked who Trefoloni was, I thought you were asking which one was he so I said hes the pale-faced one. Im sorry, a bit blur today.

meazza

29-04-2005, 12:28

Ibrahamovic will not play, the 2nd appeal was turned down today.

I'm reluctant to be drawn on what this means for us, teams often pull out great results when the odds are against them. Hopefully his absence will be felt in the Bologna game when they struggle to find a way through a ten man wall. Against us it could make them play more defensive which wouldn't at all suit us.

sehnsucht79

29-04-2005, 22:52

mrki

01-05-2005, 10:28

Well now that juve won against bologna we need to beat them on sunday. So...We are gonna be a little tired but we can surely give 90 min. of 100% football. Juve will miss Ibrahimović and hopefuly someone else... It will be tough becouse juve will defend, im sure of that. The only man that can create problems is camoranesi with his crosses, so we need to block him. If we play paciently and concentrate more than in psv game we can win it. If we do it, we have the title. Lecce and Palermo can't do anything against us, in the last round we would need a point, so this is the " last challenge ". Let's just hope no one gets injured in eindhoven so ****in moggi can cry about his team was " ripped off " again.. Forza Magico Milan!!!

zlatanov

01-05-2005, 10:50

Our squad might be rather limited but hopefully most of the players will recover for the Milan match ... As for Ibrahimovic not being there it might be hard but you are right Meazza, teams do pull out great results when the odds are against them. Think this would be more of a battle of mental strength than physical.
Juve's squad is limited even at full strength. Want proof? You are out of the CL, thrown out by a team that lives on borrowed energy in the EPL and if it wasn't for a number, or should I say a GALLORE, of controversial referee decisions in the Serie A, Juve would be at least 5-10 points behind Milan.
If a team like Juve wins the Serie A, I am absolutely sure that a lot of football fans will lose confidence in what it means to win a title in Italian football.

mk18

01-05-2005, 12:09

i thought juve shouldve got some more yellow cards vs bologna and the linesman was absolutly crappy today, bologna had 2 breakaways on buffon that have been counted offside in the second half and both were on the same line as the last man

Rapierist

01-05-2005, 12:30

Boils down to this game. Let's stuff them.

Pavel

01-05-2005, 12:43

mrki

01-05-2005, 13:51

Well you know what we'll do, we will go to Milan and play for a draw. I think the match is going to be a repeat of the one last December in which Milan had the better run of play and Juve will have very few chances to score. The longer we keep the ball out of our net the better chance we have of getting something from this match, probably at best taking a point back to Turin. But if both teams play like they have been playing recently Milan will win the match...
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It just proves that milan is by far better team then juve.
And if juve wins the title this would be real shame. And i agree if refs didn't help juve so much ( chievo, bologna, roma,and so on... ) they would be at least 5 points behind. Never mind it, lets destroy the " old ***** " in the first half and then make it attack us in the second half.

Pavel

01-05-2005, 14:28

If Milan was by far the better team than Juve why are we level on points?

What Milan has over Juventus is more dynamic players that can win matches with moments of individual brilliance like Kaka, Pirlo, Seedorf, and Sheva. Juventus does not have many dynamic players that can turn games, and we have to rely more on the team effort because our squad is not where near that of Milan's. But to say that Milan is by far the better team is a bit of a stretch IMO.

zlatanov

01-05-2005, 14:54

If Milan was by far the better team than Juve why are we level on points?

I guess the only posts you read are only your own - the answer to your question could be found in a couple of posts just before yours:
"if it wasn't for a number, or should I say a GALLORE, of controversial referee decisions in the Serie A, Juve would be at least 5-10 points behind Milan."
As Ancelotti said, "The only thing Milan and Juve have in common is the number of points." This came after yet another referee-gifted win for Juve - over Roma or Chievo, not sure.
Dare to venture a guess what he was referring to? Well, pretty much what was said above only he did it in an indirect way to keep some sort of decency, unlike Saint Moggi who makes the whole world laugh at him by his anti-Juve conspiracy theories. I guess there is no such thing as "low enough" for Moggi; can you imagine that - a conspiracy against the most referee favoured team in the whole of Italy with 25 out of 35 games ending in a very very "suspicious" way.

Pavel

01-05-2005, 16:10

I guess the only posts you read are only your own - the answer to your question could be found in a couple of posts just before yours:
"if it wasn't for a number, or should I say a GALLORE, of controversial referee decisions in the Serie A, Juve would be at least 5-10 points behind Milan."
As Ancelotti said, "The only thing Milan and Juve have in common is the number of points." This came after yet another referee-gifted win for Juve - over Roma or Chievo, not sure.

Yes, we have been favored more than Milan this season in terms of referee decisions. The matches against Chievo and Cagliari are points we should not have recieved, BUT you cannot use Roma as evidence because that was just a horrible officiated match that affected both sides. Yes we recieved a nonexistent penalty but later in the match Zlatan scored only for the goal to be disallowed wrongly. Moreover, at least one Roma player should have been sent off. So please do not use that match as an example.

But I am not disagreeing with you lot that Milan deserves to be in front of Juve because they have given better performances throughout the season. Juventus does not deserve to be level on points with Milan and if the season had ended today the latter should be the winner of the Scudetto. But what I don't like seeing is people saying Milan is BY FAR the better team than Juve when we have a much lesser squad than Milan and have average players like Blasi and Appiah playing a major part in our season, that's all. But yes Milan has given the better performances throughout the season.

ac_milan_foreva

01-05-2005, 17:35

Yes, we have been favored more than Milan this season in terms of referee decisions. The matches against Chievo and Cagliari are points we should not have recieved, BUT you cannot use Roma as evidence because that was just a horrible officiated match that affected both sides. Yes we recieved a nonexistent penalty but later in the match Zlatan scored only for the goal to be disallowed wrongly. Moreover, at least one Roma player should have been sent off. So please do not use that match as an example.

But I am not disagreeing with you lot that Milan deserves to be in front of Juve because they have given better performances throughout the season. Juventus does not deserve to be level on points with Milan and if the season had ended today the latter should be the winner of the Scudetto. But what I don't like seeing is people saying Milan is BY FAR the better team than Juve when we have a much lesser squad than Milan and have average players like Blasi and Appiah playing a major part in our season, that's all. But yes Milan has given the better performances throughout the season.

WOW!!!
and that coming from a juve supporter. im speechless.

ac_milan_foreva

01-05-2005, 17:38

however i am not thinking at ALL about this game. lets eliminate psv first and then we can start thinking about this huge games. THIS WEEK IS WHAT IT COMES ALL DOWN TOO. this is the biggest week in our season.

mk18

01-05-2005, 19:48

Pavel

01-05-2005, 21:02

i respect what uve said pavel but u cannot use the fact that u have blasi and appiah in ur ranks as an excuse... ur team includes certain types of players and does ours... their quality is exposed throughout the season and it seems ours are better :D

How many Juventus players would crack the first team at Milan this season? I can only think of four: Cannavaro, Zambrotta, Emerson, and Ibrahimovic. The rest have played better and are Milan players. And just take a look at our bench where we have to field a player such as Olivera while you can field a genious named Rui Costa. Any neutral will say Milan have more quality players.

zlatanov

01-05-2005, 21:53

I think you are forgetting Buffon, Nedved, Trazeguet, Thuram, Camoranesi - these and the ones you mentioned are top quality players and many many top teams, including Milan, won't mind having them on their roster. The fact that they may not perform at their best is not Milan's fault. Speaking of that, several Milan players have also been going through not only good but also some pretty bad periods but this is why a team with the stature of Milan and Juve should have a "long bench" If Juve do not have one I don't see how this is Milan's fault or problem - Moggi should have spent his time on improving and strengthening the team instead of having dinners with Serie A referees and delegates. He should have realised by now that this may buy Juve a couple of extra Scudettos but when it comes to winning the CL he would need to put some honest work into it and do it all by himself, fair and square.
All in all, if you believe that Juve's squad is bellow par, and I do think that you have a number of excellent players, I don't see why this has anything to do with Milan and I don't see why it should be used as somekind of excuse - Juve have more than enough resources to build a squad and if they have failed to do so, then questions should be raised but only when you are in front of a mirror, if you know what I am trying to say; Milan has absolutely nothing to do with it and I don't see why we should feel guilty about having a better team than Juve's - it is not like god gave it to us, we built it by ourselves, well, after some very lucrative business with Inter, that is. :) :ilol: :guw:

Pavel

01-05-2005, 22:18

I fail to see where I stated Juve's lack of depth is Milan's fault. That's one of the most outlandish things I've ever heard. :googly:

But my point is with the staff we have this year we have not been entirely bad, considering the calibre of players we must field week after week. Nedved and Trezeguet have been out injured for most of the season and we only have mediocre backups (Olivera and Zalayeta) to fill their shoes. This whole discussion is about how someone said Milan is a FAR better team than Juve, which IMO is not the case because we have done well as a team this season, making due with an average Juventus squad. But even if you do have an overall better squad than us, that doesn't mean we will not beat you. :D

fantasheva

01-05-2005, 22:57

Juve's partial advantage is that Milan keep playing so many games.

Milan-Juve will be the 7th game in 3 weeks for Milan.

However I'd rather not use that as an excuse. I'm extremely confident in Milan.

sehnsucht79

02-05-2005, 02:30

Milan on paper is better than Juventus and perhaps is slightly stronger, but it is my personal opinion that their performance in Serie A is as lacklustred as Juve's. But either way, its fine - maximum results with minimum effort :cool:

mrki

02-05-2005, 04:19

Juve have really strong squad, dont talk stupid tings and make alibies so you can loose on sunday. When juve was on top capello ond moggi were talking that they have better team, stronger, " just look at the standings... " - Capello. And now when it's tight it is silencio stampa( dont know how to spell it) and anti juve movement...bla,bla...
Well, juve gave their all this season and they will probable loose it. So dont look for reasons but come here to san siro and try to win it fair!! You are rich anough to buy players you need, moggi knows it and has done it this season ( capello, zebina, cannavaro, emerson, zlatan, kapo).Why can't juve win champions legue?? Becouse there is no paparesta or some other " strange decisions " in there. I've seen more than 15 juve matches this season, at least 8-9 of them were suspicious. Anyway, let go milan, destroy them and make arogant zebras cry in the sunny sunday afternoon....

Dave

02-05-2005, 05:52

IMO Juve`s squad is equal to Milan`s(just a little bit weaker)! Bur Milan is in best form, and Juve-no! And IMO when people say that Milan win games by luck it`s not true! It`s a special tactitian and luck always smiles to strongest! My view that we will win this game 1-0! And I respect Juve an his players but Milan is stronger and can win even after PSV-Milan hard match! :gun:
So Forza Milan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :1ole:

Dave

02-05-2005, 06:11

BTW do you know who will play and who will not in that game(I know Ibra won`t be)!

mk18

02-05-2005, 07:42

zlatanov

02-05-2005, 08:15

BTW do you know who will play and who will not in that game(I know Ibra won`t be)!
There are no suspended Milan players and as far as I know, at least as of this moment, we don't have any injury worries too. For Juve, Zlatan is out of it for sure, thanks to his heroic deeds from a fortnight ago, Zebina is also still recovering from that injury and I doubt he would feature in that game. Apart from that everyone else would be available even Emerson, who didn't take part in the game vs Bologna, how fit he would be, that's a different story. Trazeguet will also be available for selection.
So, pretty much a full roaster is available to both coaches except that poor Juve fell victims YET AGAIN to the conspiracies aganst them and unfairly lost Zlatan.
When will those bastards from the FIGC and the Italian Referee Committee finally stop victimizing such an honorable team as Juve? Damn maggots !!! :guw:

K77SH C

02-05-2005, 08:30

How many Juventus players would crack the first team at Milan this season? I can only think of four: Cannavaro, Zambrotta, Emerson, and Ibrahimovic. The rest have played better and are Milan players. And just take a look at our bench where we have to field a player such as Olivera while you can field a genious named Rui Costa. Any neutral will say Milan have more quality players.

Well Nedved instead of a sometimes wonderful, sometimes awful Seedorf would make Milan unstoppable. Zambrotta would definately be ahead of kaladze and Pancaro. sheva would score a million goals with ibrahmiavich's flicks and skills.

Your team is level on points with Milan. Where you lack in flare and quality you make up for in athletism and strength. We can sometimes suffer from having such a forward thinking midfield where as you have a solid system. You are just unlucky Nedved got injured for so long. If he was fully fit against Liverpool you would be playing Chelsea. One thing though, you are way too reliant on him.

savicevic

02-05-2005, 09:33

stop seeing seedorf as a-sometimes-awful player. tactically, he is a very important player. granted, he loses many good oportunities in front of goal, but stay noticing his game every now and then and you will realise his importance. he dribbles, he defends, he keeps possession when needed, he plays with his chin up, he almost never loses possession and he suffers a lot of fouls, especially when milan are winning (very often, hohoho) and our team is under pressure. those precious fouls which break the rhythm of the game.

savicevic

02-05-2005, 09:42

i was listening to some arm-chair critics during the Sunday Italia Uno programme named Controcampo, and an important element which was being discussed was that Juve feel they are being robbed and should have some more points than they actually do. they think the 'system' is favouring milan. in fact, as of yesterday morning, following a press release on their website, juve have decided to go on a silent media strike. no interviews. they are implying a plot against them. Godfather style.

on one side, this indirectly implies they are afraid of milan. i think they should be. 4 out of their 5 losses this season have come against very good teams (sampdoria, palermo, inter, liverpool), while milan's losses have all been against lowly teams, thus implying lack of concentration when facing inferior opponents (read siena, messina, bologna, livorno, excl. barca). as a result, they have a ready excuse when they lose against us on sunday. they will accuse us of stealing the league.

on the other hand, it might be a tactic to raise the concentration level of the team, which has been depicted in this press release as in 'dire emergency'. i think this claim is a bit exaggerated.

i wish milan annihilate juve by playing nice football for this reason. i hate whinnies and all those who like to play the role of the victims. and they have a very short memory. don't they remember when it was others who were victims, while they were the culprits (cannavaro goal in juve-inter 3 years ago, iuliano foul in juve-inter circa 8 years ago)?

Staci

02-05-2005, 10:08

On last nights Italian Soccer FanAtics Show here in Canada...They were commenting on the Juve media strike as well, saying that what they will end up doing is hopefully realize that they are not unnecessarily critisized or penalized. That their suspensions are comparable to those of other teams for similar situations. Let's face it...is Juve ever gonna realize anything that is NOT in their favour. Oh and btw......they were favouring Milan to win next Sunday !!!!!!

K77SH C

02-05-2005, 10:30

Even if we win they will complain about zlatan being suspended.

I agree and have always said Seedorf is important for our system. On the whole he is a great player and usually plays well when we need a performance from him. However, no one can deny he goes through more bad phases then our other players. Sometimes, like against Fiorentina, he gives the ball to the opposition more than his own players. I still wouldnt replace him with very many players though, because as you said hes vital for the ststem we employ.

zlatanov

02-05-2005, 11:46

and they have a very short memory. don't they remember when it was others who were victims, while they were the culprits (cannavaro goal in juve-inter 3 years ago, iuliano foul in juve-inter circa 8 years ago)?
You don'thave to go years back in time to find examples of controversial referee decisions handing Juve not just games but titles, as well. In fact, it is hard to remember a game from this current season where Juve didn't get at least one very important present from an Italian official. Also just check the statistics on www.gazzetta.it and tell me how many penalty kicks have Juve been awarded for them and how many against them - for the former I have lost count a long time ago, as for the latter the answer is one big fat 0. How about red cards, disallowed regular goals for Juve's opponents and so on and on ... Compare t to the same info regarding Milan and you will get the picture.
To tell you the truth, fair victories for Juve are such a rare thing that whenever it happens I throwing a party. All these anti-Juve conspiracy allegations can only make Serie A fans laugh at how pathetic Juve can get.

Pavel

02-05-2005, 13:09

and tell me how many penalty kicks have Juve been awarded for them and how many against them - for the former I have lost count a long time ago, as for the latter the answer is one big fat 0.

Get your facts straight.

Two weekends ago against Lecce there was a penalty awarded against us. And have you ever thought that we have two of the best tacklers in the game in central defense? Surely that is a big difference.

To tell you the truth, fair victories for Juve are such a rare thing that whenever it happens I throwing a party. All these anti-Juve conspiracy allegations can only make Serie A fans laugh at how pathetic Juve can get.

Brescia 3-0
Atalanta 2-0
Sampdoria 3-0
Udinese 1-0
Messina 2-1
Siena 3-0
Roma 2-0
Chievo 3-0
Fiorentina 1-0
Lecce 1-0
Lazio 2-1
Livorno 4-2
Brescia 2-0
Atalanta 2-1
Udinese 2-1
Siena 3-0
Roma 2-1
Reggina 1-0
Lecce 5-2
Bologna 2-1

Matches referees influenced for or against Juve:

Palermo 1-1
Reggina 1-2 Loss for us, good goals by Juve disallowed
Bologna 1-0
Milan 0-0
Cagliari 1-1
Udinese 2-1
Chievo 1-0 (Pellisier goal indeed crossed the line)

So it's not as rare as you're telling everybody.

Gio-mania

02-05-2005, 13:31

also roma-juve(1-2) was effected by reffs.
both juves goals shouldnt have counted:- a penalty given - the foul was outside penalty area though. and the other on double offside.

by the way- isnt the PsV game before the juve game? why a thread on this game before the PsV match?

Pavel

02-05-2005, 13:43

also roma-juve(1-2) was effected by reffs.
both juves goals shouldnt have counted:- a penalty given - the foul was outside penalty area though. and the other on double offside.

In the first half one Roma player should have been sent off and Roma was wrongly awarded a free kick that stopped our attack and led to the Cassano goal. We also had a goal disallowed in the second half that should have stood. Both teams were affected that night and we deserved the win in the end.

K77SH C

02-05-2005, 13:59

The lazio game alos springs to mind :firedev:

zlatanov

02-05-2005, 14:21

Get your facts straight.
Two weekends ago against Lecce there was a penalty awarded against us. And have you ever thought that we have two of the best tacklers in the game in central defense? Surely that is a big difference.

Wow, one whole penalty given vs Juve in a game they were winning anyway. And this is in one out of 34 games? Well, I guess this does prove my point wrong.
Oh, and don't forget that our defence is actually stronger than Juve's and last time I chekced Milan has received almost as many PKs as have been given against - "slightly" less popular with referees than Juve is, I guess.
Plus a penalty is not a penalty unless the referee says it is no matter how untimely the tackle is. Referee bias and not strong defence is what you should attribute the lack penalties being given vs Juve to.
And in many of those games you pointed out as pure Juve victories, there was controversy although a result of 3-0 may say otherwise. I clearly remember the Samp-Juve game in Genua had some very interesting moments to offer. There are others like it too but there have been so many of them over the season that I don't even bother paying attention anymore and tend to just take it as a given.

Pavel

02-05-2005, 15:05

Oh, and don't forget that our defence is actually stronger than Juve's and last time I chekced Milan has received almost as many PKs as have been given against - "slightly" less popular with referees than Juve is, I guess.

Have you watched us play this season? We play a straight 4-4-2 to close down the middle of the pitch, with Emerson and Blasi doing the work to stop the opposition before it reaches our defense. We basically create a shield in front of the defense, so it is very difficult for attackers to rush through in on goal, the main scenario where penalties come from. Milan plays with more posession and does not always shutdown the center of the pitch completely, and they also are subject to many counterattacks because of the copius amounts of posession they usually have. Milan does have the stonger defense in terms of individual talent, while Juve stacks more players in front of the defense to protect it. So with players not being able to run at our defenders that much it would certainly cut back on penalties awarded.

And that was not a penalty last week against Lazio. Any unbiased neutral will tell you that.

Jim_UK

02-05-2005, 15:19

I miss the days when Milan used to press the opposition ... there always seems to be too much room for opponents at the moment.

That's one thing we can't allow Juventus, especially Nedved and Camro on the flanks. We need to also hope our players find some rest from somewhere, otherwise they'll just be exhausted.

mk18

02-05-2005, 15:23

i agree jamie, the best milan where in the period when we beat inter 3-2, then juve 3-1, then parma 3-1 and sparta 4-1 and depor 4-1 ... it stopped when we were knocked out of the CL in that terrible evening..

mrki

02-05-2005, 16:15

As i've said before, juve is giving their all this season.
Last season when they werent in the title race, refs didn't do anything for juve. Becouse there was no need to, this year they stole at least 6-7 games. That is why de desperately need to beat them on sunday and show how pathetic they are. And don't let juve fans bother you, let it go. St. Moggi will do everything next year to beat us and they will be showing off how juve is the biggest and so and so.... Anyway, lets kick some ass on sunday with sheva scoring again... Forza Milan !!!

Haroon

02-05-2005, 16:20

With all due respect this thread needs to be LOCKED until the semi-final is over. I find it deeply disturbing that we play our biggest game of the season so far in the next 48 hours and yet a game that is coming later is getting more attention!!! We have a 2-0 lead but that doesn't mean we are guaranteed to Istanbul. It's a UCL semi-final deciding leg! History awaits! Respect a semi-final people. Worry about the Gobbi after that!

Thank You.

fantasheva

02-05-2005, 16:38

Billy_Montreal

03-05-2005, 09:50

In a few days I will be leaving for Europe where my final destination will be Milan to watch the game on Sunday. :excited:

Thus, if we don't speak ... FORZA MILAN!! First kick some PSV-arse then put Juve out of their misery .. :3band:

While in Milan I will also be meeting up with the infamous Giovanni of MM :w221: and maybe Franco :dcool:

(I'll be sure to keep a journal!! ;) )

Time to HUNT SOME JUVENTINI :gun:

Franco6

03-05-2005, 11:26

While in Milan I will also be meeting up with the infamous Giovanni of MM :w221: and maybe Franco :dcool:

I still don't have the ground tiicket confirmed, and to be honest I'm a bit worried, for other things as hotel and airplane ok.
If (hope so) I'll go, I should meet Giova saturday night.

Gipson

03-05-2005, 13:12

Milan must win this game because We have a much harder calendar than Juve!
If Milan outplay Juve than Lo Scudetto will be Ours!
We will win all games (with Juve, Lecce, Palermo) and draw with Udinese!
Milan 2004/2005 Champion!!!

Jim_UK

03-05-2005, 14:32

How can we fail when we have our very own MM Holy Trinity of Juventini hunters going to the match ? :D

I agree with you Haroon, but sometimes talking about something else than the obvious (CL v PSV) can help take your mind of things.

Billy, whatever the result, have a good time, take alot of pics and drink alot of grappa :beer:

ck_ian69

03-05-2005, 19:56

To tell you the truth, fair victories for Juve are such a rare thing that whenever it happens I throwing a party. All these anti-Juve conspiracy allegations can only make Serie A fans laugh at how pathetic Juve can get.

yea i have to agree with u that juve is plain pathetic. Actually, besides Lazio, juve represents the worst in italian football. Look at their players who go down with every tackle, complaining to the referee hoping to get a free kick. Bianconeri games on tv are extremely boring, i hear the referee's whistles more than anything else..

and look at that lame performance against liverpool. The juve players played as if they were 6-0 up, trying to be cool and score a last min goal? U can do it if u are milan, real, barca etc..but with the 'strikers' juve has got..its a distant bet. That performance against liverpool was mediocre, and distasteful for italy.

JUVENTUS....IF U DONT WANNA PLAY PASSIONATE FOOTBALL IN EUROPE, U DONT DESERVE TO WIN THE SCUDETTO, please leave it to milan, cos the rossoneri deserves it after all their hard work. Imagine if juve wins the scudetto, what will the world think of serie A? That this is the champion that italy can produce? A champion that lost to a 5th placed premiership team?..

for goodness sake, juve should go to serie B for a few seasons where they will learn to play decent football..

sehnsucht79

04-05-2005, 00:08

Juve's squad is limited even at full strength. Want proof? You are out of the CL, thrown out by a team that lives on borrowed energy in the EPL and if it wasn't for a number, or should I say a GALLORE, of controversial referee decisions in the Serie A, Juve would be at least 5-10 points behind Milan.
If a team like Juve wins the Serie A, I am absolutely sure that a lot of football fans will lose confidence in what it means to win a title in Italian football.

Oh gimme a ****ing break, as if Milan didnt have decisions go THEIR way. As much as you would like to believe, this season Juventus didnt get as much 'help' from the referees as they 'usually' do. Im not saying Juventus is better than Milan or anything, but you people undermine Juventus too much despite the situation. SURELY there must be a reason why Juventus have never gone down to second in serie a in matter of points other than "them being favoured by referees"... You whine nearly as bad as Cassano.

savicevic

04-05-2005, 04:38

your reply kind of implies juve expect ref favours. wake up and realise juventus is a normal team like milan and inter and requires normal treatment, not special treatment.

the fact that juve have come out complaining only this year because of referees shows that overl the last few years juve have got used to being favoured and have come to expect it. you have been 'spoilt', kind of, just like a little sod.

may i remind you that in the capello era, milan had to wait 3 years for a penalty to be awarded in favour. we still managed to win 3 consecutive leagues.

so consider referee decisions as random errors which contribute to the beauty of football. do not necessarily expect wrong and favourable errors to cancel out throughout a season, coz they wouldn't be random after all if referees had a zero balancing mentality when refereeing games. i would stop watching football if i knew a ref would not give team X a clear penalty just because the previous week this same team had been awarded a non-existent penalty. who does he think he is? God?

zlatanov

04-05-2005, 05:02

SURELY there must be a reason why Juventus have never gone down to second in serie a in matter of points other than "them being favoured by referees"... You whine nearly as bad as Cassano.
Of course there is a reason for that - Juve are a very strong team, nobody is questioning that. But when you have two very strong and ballanced teams in a direct battle for the title, one of them being favoured by "random" referee mistakes could very well prove a decisive factor in detrmining the winner, and we all seem to agree which team inbetween Milan and Juve have had "randomness" favour them more than any other team in the Serie A.
I agree that referee mistakes can't make a Scudetto contender out of Lecce, per say, but they can very well prove the major factor in giving Juve the title for Juve are already a strong team.

Dave

04-05-2005, 06:25

Milan Must win Juve!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It`s will be a real shame for Rossoneri if they won`t be champions! Then Serie A will be uninteresting for me forever!
Forza Milan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Forza Rossoneri!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Giovanni

04-05-2005, 06:33

guys where will you maltese will stay? Is Novara confirmed? Because in that case we may consider to spend the night in one of the famous clubs in Novara such as Il Maneggio or Le Cave, and in that scenario i would come with some friends of mine from Torino..then the next morning we would reach the stadium, being Novara half an hour (at best) far from San Siro..

I have considered to sleep inside the car and then to leave the morning but i have to know about your (Billy and Franco) definitive programs in order to arrange the whole thing, because i have to organise with my friends here as well. So let me know, esp through mobile, cause i don't know when i'll check the net next time.

Ciao balordi :D

Franco6

04-05-2005, 11:30

Giova my hotel will be in Milan and I think also Billy's hotel. Pepare yourself.

GOBBO ALE VENGO DA TE!!!

Angelina

04-05-2005, 12:33

Don't mind, wrong topic, and cant delet it :)

Lombardia

04-05-2005, 16:27

mk18

04-05-2005, 18:40

Oh gimme a ****ing break, as if Milan didnt have decisions go THEIR way. As much as you would like to believe, this season Juventus didnt get as much 'help' from the referees as they 'usually' do. Im not saying Juventus is better than Milan or anything, but you people undermine Juventus too much despite the situation. SURELY there must be a reason why Juventus have never gone down to second in serie a in matter of points other than "them being favoured by referees"... You whine nearly as bad as Cassano.

oh come on, if anything its this year that juve has been favoured alot... the away match to bologna was the best example... the calls were really pathetic, this season we havent had 1/4 of the calls in our way... infact i cant remember a moment where we did have calls come our way, but in terms of luck yeah i admit we have that but theres nothing wrong with that... yeah we scored in the 90th minute in run of games :u56: but that doesnt make us cheats... what juve do is disgusting, simply sick... if u pay the amount of money u give refs on new players to compete with ours maybe ud have a better and fair chance of winning it.

K77SH C

04-05-2005, 19:32

We have to win this game becuase the final is after the Palermo game where we will have to rest players and before the UDINESE :dconf: game which will be tough.

zlatanov

04-05-2005, 22:38

i think paolo is out of this game, listening to what the commentator's said, he has concussion, and i think that is a mandaroy 2 weeks period stop:( i hope they are wrong, but for the mom it looks like we'll be withouth the capitano for this game
Not necessarily - I saw him on the bench during the second half vs PSV and he seemed OK to me. There is still time till Sunday but even if he cant make it Khaka is ready to step in.

otoniel

05-05-2005, 00:21

The PSV game was a wake up call for the milan players plus they will be very motivated that they advanced to the Final so Milan will have a good game against Juventus and surely win :D

almilan

05-05-2005, 02:57

will maldini be fit? hopefully also i think we should go back to the 4 3 1 2 formation but with ambrosini (he has done very well the last few games he has palyed) starting instead of seedorf (who was hopeless last night, being dropped will wake him up)

hopefully crespo to start up front aswel but jdt seems to be in form again

Joanna

05-05-2005, 05:14

this is the latest news from Italy : Paolo Maldini sta meglio. Il difensore non ricorda líncidente. Con la Juve ci sara.

Any italians around here ??????????

savicevic

05-05-2005, 05:20

Paolo Maldini sta meglio. Il difensore non ricorda líncidente. Con la Juve ci sara.

PM is feeling better. The defender does not remebmer the incident. He will be there against Juve.

Joanna

05-05-2005, 05:35

That's good news ! Thank you !!!

mk18

05-05-2005, 07:26

we have to beat juve and then the boys should get some rest... we must start a new winning streak starting sunday! 5 more games left and its over!!!

Franco6

05-05-2005, 07:29

I have some doubts about our form, Juve are consentrating on this match from Monaday while we from today and after a semi final. Physically its useless to hide we're not we used to be. I just hope that we relaxed vs PSV and Fiorentina cuz I'm waiting for a good reply from our guys.
As a result I don't want a draw. Better a win or a loss so that we can concentate on the CL final.

K77SH C

05-05-2005, 10:38

Iv checked Liverpools fixtures and their last game in the premiership is a whole ten days before the CL final. As usual the lack of organisation in Seria A leaves Milan with 3 games in that week. What a total joke. While Liverpool will be fresh and probably preparing in Istanbul, we will be playing Palermo!!
We need to beat Juve and risk losing the points against Palermo by resting the whole team. That would of course leave it to the final day with a tough game against Udinese. Hopefully as European Champions we can beat them.

I would prefer a playoff with Juve than not completely resting our players and risk losing against Liverpool. But for all that to happen we need to beat Juve!! It would be an extra bonus if they dropped any other points

K77SH C

05-05-2005, 10:56

Maldini: I’ll be fit for Juve Thursday 5 May, 2005

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Milan captain Paolo Maldini is confident he will be fit enough to face Juventus on Sunday afternoon.

Doubts over his physical condition emerged last night after he was accidentally kicked in the head during the 3-1 loss at PSV Eindhoven.

He was substituted in the game at half-time but he’s today eased fears that he may miss the Scudetto showdown at he weekend.

"I’m feeling good," he said on Thursday. "I’m only feeling a little discomfort and therefore I think I’ll play against Juve."

A number of journalists joked with the legend, asking whether the knock to his head had affected his memory.

"How many Champions’ League Finals will I now play in? Seven," he replied after Wednesday’s away goals victory at Eindhoven.

Meanwhile, Vice-president Adriano Galliani insists his club are the best team on the continent despite only just getting through to face Liverpool.

"We’re the best in Europe," he said, quickly archiving the PSV fright. "We are champions of Italy and fighting to regain that title.

"Milan are also in their second Champions’ League Final in three years, the tenth in our history, the seventh of the Berlusconi era."

Galliani is also looking forward to the Juventus game with optimism. "I’m not worried about the fitness of our players," he concluded.
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At least he wont be tired.

zlatanov

05-05-2005, 11:45

Dave

05-05-2005, 13:09

Of course players are tired, but I hope they will improve and everything will OK!!! I read in Goal.com that Maldini Will play! Thanx God!!!!!! Milan will show his pride!!!!!
Forza IL MAGICCO MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stezagud

05-05-2005, 13:23

Actually Liverpool's EPL campaign is pretty much over even as we speak - they hardly have a chance to get to that 4th place.

its a slim chance but they have to keep going for it as winning the CL wouldnt guarentee them a place next season, the Premier League are likely to back Evertons claim.

mrki

05-05-2005, 14:12

It's apsolutely sure that juve will not loose any points from the last 3 games after milan. Be sure of it. So we really need to beat them. Milan is very tired, it was clear in Eindhoven but we need to relax and prepare some good tactics for sunday. Ancelotti really disgraced italian football with his defencive lineup, we dident even play for counter attack!!! That was **** !! If we are to beat juve we'll need a great seedorf and another deadly striker ( not just sheva ).
Juve are fit and well prepared, capello is a master for these kind of games, they will sit back most of the time but could also start with strong pressing in the modfield due to tiredess of milans midfield. So we need a good possesion and specially brilliant seedort and pirlo with kaka opening himself on the flanks ( attacking pessoto). If we score a first half goal we'll win it. if we draw the game we are faaaar away from scudetto. Lets hope for the best....

mk18

05-05-2005, 15:05

look i love capello alot, he my favorite all time coach, but tell me, if he was a master of these types of games then where was he when we beat the crap outta roma in the olimpico last season? ... the boys know that they should give it 1 more push and after the juve game theyde feel alot better physically because they would now have 1 week between each game and not 2-3 days like the past 2 months!

zlatanov

05-05-2005, 16:00

I am positive that this time around it will be Milan who will deploy the "keep it tight and wait for the killer blow" tactics Juve and Inter are so famous for. I doubt we have the energy and freshness necessary for our usual game of total dominance on the field, not after a difficult game on Wednesday.

Warro Bantan

05-05-2005, 16:59

I will restrict my comments to the pending match, and avoid the quagmire of conspiracy theories being espoused here.

Juve will undoubtedly have the better physical conditioning, though I think Milan will recover in time to give them their money´s worth, and I dont think to see a replay of the last two Milan games (ie vs Viola and PSV) in this potential title decider.

Milan will be totally focused on this game, and I look for Carlo to revert to his regular diamond in the middle, and probably drop Seedorf for this match, though I really wouldnt be surprised to see him in the starting line up.

Maybe he is tired, or just had an off day in Eindhoven, but he could prove instrumental vs Juve...the major difference between Juve and PSV is pace, or in Juve´s case, the lack thereof...man for man in the middle, Juve have no real speed merchants of the likes of Farfan and Park, so Seedorf may have a little more time to do what he does on the ball....I refuse to believe that Carlo wont consider him to start, as poorly as he may have performed in Holland.

What I do hope for is a start for Rui Costa, hopefully for Clarence, who as I intimated before, seems a little spent...and understandably so...he has played in almost every match for us this season, and at his age, could be simply fatigued.

Sheva and JDT will probably start, though I think Carlo may opt for Crespo....but its late in the day in Jamaica, and my mind reading powers are fading..or Carlo is wearing that stupid lead lined hat again...:D

Gattuso, Pirlo are definate starters, and the back line will be a repeat of yesterdays semi final four.

Milan will win this match, and Juve will rue the day they allowed us back into the race.

:firedev:FORZA MIIIIIIIIIIIILAN!!!:firedev:

MIRZA

05-05-2005, 17:30

I'm worried for this game, because our players are very tired especially our midfield players Pirlo, Gattuso, Seedorf...
I don't know what will Carlo do, maybe he will change some players to rest them. I hope that everything will be good, and that we will win, but it will be very hard.
FORZA MILAN!!!!

Rosso6

05-05-2005, 18:34

I believe we win this game. Milan is far more balanced team that Juve, and for those of you worried after PSV; do not be afraid. juve will suffer our wrath. this our chance to breakaway.
Forza Milan

meazza

06-05-2005, 05:11

what's the betting this game is a draw and nothing is decided? :D

that's the feeling I'm getting.

mrki

06-05-2005, 06:22

Capello lost last year with roma coz milan was playing better than this season, anyway I would give everithing for milan to win on sunday but im afraid it will be really tough. We NEED pirlo back!! He is not himself , hope he'll be back as real pirlo. Seedorf will be ok,he'll play well, so will maldini. We can do it, just with a lot of effort and a little bit of luck ( if there is some left...hehe ). Forza MILAN!!!

devoted_dm

06-05-2005, 06:34

Here are some statistics before Sunday's match (I apologize if these have already been posted):

MILAN - JUVENTUS

Matches played 70
Wins(Milan) 24
Draws 30
Defeats 16
Goals
Scored 102
Conceded 86

Results from the past ten years:

1994/95 02/04/95 Milan Juventus 0-2
Ravanelli, Vialli
1995/96 15/10/95 Milan Juventus 2-1
Simone, Weah, Del Piero
1996/97 06/04/97 Milan Juventus 1-6
Jugovic (2), Zidane ®, Vieri (2), Amoruso, Simone
1997/98 30/11/97 Milan Juventus 1-1
Ferrara (aut.), Inzaghi
1998/99 06/01/99 Milan Juventus 1-1
Albertini ®, Fonseca
1999/00 24/03/00 Milan Juventus 2-0
Shevchenko (2)
2000/01 21/10/00 Milan Juventus 2-2
Ambrosini, Shevchenko, Trezeguet, Conte
2001/02 09/12/01 Milan Juventus 1-1
Shevchenko, Del Piero ®
2002/03 22/03/03 Milan Juventus 2-1
Shevchenko, Nedved, Inzaghi
2003/04 01/11/03 Milan Juventus 1-1
Tomasson, Di Vaio

Ancelotti vs Capello

Matches played 19
Capello's wins 2
Draws 8
Ancelotti's wins 9

Capello vs Milan
Matches played 15
Capello's win 2
Draws 6
Milan's wins 7

Ancelotti vs Juventus
Matches played 15
Ancelotti's wins 3
Draws 9
Juventus's wins 3

My thoughts on the game: I think we all realize that we can't play like we did against PSV in this match. This is the most important match of the season so far, and we need a good performance by our lads, because we have to get three points to gain the necessary advantage on Juve.

I think they key to winning this match is pace. I want us to put pressure on Juve's midfield to win the ball when they are in possession, and then hit them fast on the break with accurate through balls to Kaka and Sheva. For this to work, it is especially important that Pirlo and Gattuso are at their best, and that Seedorf doesn't have "one of those days." I would also love to see Tomasson partner Sheva up front, as he seems to be enjoying a good spell of form.

My preferred lineup: Dida; Kaladze, Maldini, Nesta, Stam; Pirlo; Seedorf, Gattuso; Kaka; Shevchenko, Tomasson.

ROSSONERI SIAMO NOI!!! :3band:

savicevic

06-05-2005, 06:37

guys, a draw wouldn't be a bad result because in the last 6 leagues we've won, in all 6 occasions (except 1995/96 when simone and weak scored in a 2-1 win), milan-juventus finished in a draw. so, statistically, a draw isn't bad after all.

what i feel confident to say is that milan have never disappointed us in a big game against strong and big opposition* in the ancelotti era. WE WILL NOT LOSE!!

* by big opposition i refer to the likes of inter, juve, lazio, roma and the big guns of europe.

savicevic

06-05-2005, 06:41

btw, everyone is forgetting pippo inzaghi these days. i say he's dead hungry to play the odd few minutes and leave his mark. i think he will be decisive.

everyone is saying how lucky we are ... and inzaghi has scored some very lucky goals (i remember one vs milan after a taibi blunder, one with juve vs rosenborg after a davids shot hit him, one vs milan in the berlusconi cup when a shot by taibi hit him in the face and went it). so pippo, bring us some more luck. coz luck favours the brave.

Dave

06-05-2005, 06:51

I.M.O.

06-05-2005, 16:14

savisevic i must say that i dont agree with you.
i think that the only good result for us is to win them.
if we go at the play offs our players will be very tired
dont forget this is the 10th game in a month already.

we're playing home and this is our great chance to get the double!

mrki

06-05-2005, 16:35

I also dont think that draw would be enough, juve will win it all untill the end, and we have lecce,palermo and udinese.
If we win it, than we need only a point from udinese match and can relax some players in the palermo game in front of the istanbul final. So, we need to win it. We need seedorf and pirlo in top form but we can also let juve play for a while and try some long balls from pirlo if the passing and holding position doesnt work at the beggining. Tomasson could start aldough crespo hasnt scored for a while and its about time to do so...there will be some cross balls so crespo could be usefull.

sam_3

06-05-2005, 18:52

Boy do i hate this team. I hate Juventus from all my guts. I hope we crush them in the Sansinro on sunday.
Forza milan and I hope the celebrations begin on sunday 5pm gmt.

ac_milan_foreva

06-05-2005, 20:49

y is this game played during the day, not during the night like all the derbies are played? :confused:

ASHWIN

06-05-2005, 22:20

Most of us feel that the match against Juve is not decisive.If u ask me,this by far the most important game of the season.Our last game of the season is against our bogey team Udinese and they are chasing for a European spot.I hope that Milan will play their hearts out today.Rui Costa and Crespo must play against Juve.They have a thing for big games

Dave

07-05-2005, 05:51

I hope to celebrate Milan`s victory over f.....n Juve! In 9th May is a great day victory against German`s in II World War! Forza Milan!!!!!!!

savicevic

07-05-2005, 12:14

y is this game played during the day, not during the night like all the derbies are played? :confused:

becayse juve did not accept to play at 2030. they preferred to play at 1500. probably so that milan have 5 hours less rest.

savicevic

07-05-2005, 12:18

btw, everyone is forgetting pippo inzaghi these days. i say he's dead hungry to play the odd few minutes and leave his mark. i think he will be decisive.

ancelotti surely did not forget him. he has been heard saying today:

"Inzaghi? Rientrerà prima di quello che si possa pensare perchè ieri per la prima volta ho rivisto il vero Inzaghi. Magari potrebbe essere una sorpresa dell'ultima ora. Partite come questa Inzaghi le fiuta in maniera particolare. Oggi Crespo, Tomasson e Inzaghi sono sullo stesso piano."

So do not be surprised if we see him in the first eleven tomorrow, or is given 45 mins of play. esp. since it is almost official that mourinho wants to keep crespo, so hernan will be at a morale low.

Turi

07-05-2005, 13:30

guys ..

what time is the match again .. GMT time please ... if its in the afternoon i will have to schedual my meetings all the morning ..

thanx a bunch

mk18

07-05-2005, 17:58

ancelotti surely did not forget him. he has been heard saying today:

"Inzaghi? Rientrerà prima di quello che si possa pensare perchè ieri per la prima volta ho rivisto il vero Inzaghi. Magari potrebbe essere una sorpresa dell'ultima ora. Partite come questa Inzaghi le fiuta in maniera particolare. Oggi Crespo, Tomasson e Inzaghi sono sullo stesso piano."

So do not be surprised if we see him in the first eleven tomorrow, or is given 45 mins of play. esp. since it is almost official that mourinho wants to keep crespo, so hernan will be at a morale low.

ur quoting urself :grinser:

Haroon

07-05-2005, 18:18

Rating: NC-17

This preview contains use of strong language, sexual references and scenes of nudity. Viewer discretion is advised.

Serie A: 2004-5

AC MILAN Vs. J U V E N T U S F C

Stadio San Siro, Milano - ITALIA

Sunday [May 8, 2005]

Kick-off -> 15:00 (UK Time): British Eurosport

PREVIEW
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When the Serie A calendar was drawn up, many thought that it would come down to this game that would decide the destination of the Scudetto for 2004-5. Amazingly so it has happened. THE GAME is poised to be a potential Scudetto decider with Milan and Juve locked on points. And to think that not too long ago Juve had an 8 point lead in the race when the doubters thought that the Scudetto was gone once again to the Old Lady. But Milan being the fly in the ointment just didn't give up and amazingly clawed its way back into the race thanks to some heroics from Dribble Boy & Co.

Juve have had a refresher while Milan played under extreme pressure and tense conditions on INTERNATIONAL turf to get a desired result in the dying minutes from an Ambrosini headed goal to make a historic 10th ECC/UCL final appearance and become the first side to appear in 5 UCL finals! :thmbup:

Now Juve have imposed a strict press silence so much so that the toilet windows have been sealed during their training sessions. :tongue: They don't want to speak to the press and answer the usual questions. :stuckup:

The Devil welcomes the Old Lady to the Devil's Den to serve the last rights and lay her to rest once and for all. Obviously she will be nailed first. The Sceptor to be nailed right through the heart and not that other nailing some of you freaks were thinking about. :stuckup: The funeral takes place at 15:00 UK time and as in some customs there will be a celebration after it to celebrate a tough competitor who eventually could not withstand the fire and choked due to the smoke.

M I L A N

"Lucky Milan" is the new name given by all the jealous followers of football who would love to be in a position where Milan is right now. The basic principle that this Milan is revolving around is to continue fighting till the last breath. The team just doesn't give up. When you strive for that effort then the SupeRNaturaL helps you along the way. Rule of nature. Everything balances it out so if the input towards the cause is there then the output will come from the SupeRNaturaL. :devil: This Milan side has won down to 10 men and down a goal vs. Lazio. This Milan side has won against Roma in a very difficult build-up to a very difficult game. This Milan side has defeated the city rivals and maintained the balance of power in the grand city of Milano. The side is special with fighters on the pitch. It doesn't give up. :fero:

There is always a hidden gear and Milan can just raise to a level to get the result. It may not be fancy at times. There can be struggles but who said the ride would be smooth as the Monza circuit? Ancelotti's Milan does the necessary bit and doesn't overdo it. Minimum Input - Maximum Output. The key area is that that Minimum Input is just enough to get the maximum out of the game / tie. It was going to be necessary to adopt such an approach for a side that had won the UCL and Scudetto in successive seasons and was now aiming for a double! When the bar is raised and the aim becomes difficult it won't always be a smooth run to the end.

J U V E N T U S

Juve started off brilliantly under Capello and steamed through phase 1 of the Scudetto chase with not many problems. They looked ominous and uncatchable so much so that they haven't relinquished their grip on first spot but it is slipping now. It's a cliffhanger and I see the Old Lady slipping as was the Lady in the first scene of that movie. :D It's a matter of time before Juve slips and falls hard. :skull:

It is mind-boggling and perplexing to see Juve still at number 1 position after so many matchdays have come and gone. It is like that Winnie The Pooh Dilemma.

Winnie The Pooh Dilemma

I for one never understood what was going through the heads of Disney animators when they created Winnie the Pooh. Why the fvck would you make the bear wear a red sweater and during Winter editions / Christmas Editions make him wear hats and scarfs as well but never put pants / trousers / underwear on the fvcker? :wth: Winnie The Pooh is the Ron Jeremy of cartoons! Never keeps his pants on!

Coming back to Juve it is the same thing. How can a team that plays such awful football this season be at number 1 with 4 matchdays to go??? How how how? :fero: It just doesn't make sense! They do deserve credit for being at the top as does Winnie The Pooh for still maintaining his standing in the cartoon community even though he has flaws or no pants.

Probable Starting Line-Up(s)
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---> Milan <---
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4-3-1-2 formation

--------------------Dida---------------------

--Cafu-------Stam--------Nesta------Maldini-

--------------------Pirlo----------------------

-------Gattuso-----------------Seedorf--------

--------------------Kaka-----------------------

-----------Sheva---------Crespo-------------

1. Ancelotti will ditch the X-Mas tree for obvious reasons. We lost a game with the X-Mas tree for the first time since that loss to Juve two seasons ago in the Delle Alpi. It failed on Wednesday because he didn't put the right men in the starting line-up. It was not in sync with the strategy he deployed.

2. Good news is that Maldini returns and he has shrugged off the effects of a lethal drop-kick of Vennegoor of Hesselink! What an intervention but what a bad kick to suffer! That happens in movies!

3. Ancelotti has rested Crespo now for some time and it may well be that he was planning him to start for this game purposely so he rotated him in that manner. Even though JDT has come on and made a difference I think that Crespo should start in this game as his aerial + physical presence is something that is required to penetrate Juve's strongest department.

4. Let's make it a funeral to remember. They are hurting. They are injured and they come for a peaceful death. Let's give them that. It should be a slow one though. 95 mins is about right.

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---> Juventus <---
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4-4-1-1 formation

-----------------------Buffon ---------------------------

--Pessotto------Thuram------Cannavaro------Zambrotta--

--Camoranesi----Emerson----Tacchinardi-------Nedved---

---------------------------Del Piero------------------
-------------------Trezeguet---------------------------

1. First position to look at will be the right back position. Pessotto has the experience and the head for such a game while Zebina is not the best of performers and in addition to that has not had a good time playing against Milan. It's the 'Black Beast' effect. :devil:

2. Central midfield is another question mark. Does the Don go for the ultra-talented Blasi, missed passes Appiah or the old pro Tacchinardi who has been in such a situation before? I picked Tacchi as he seems to be the one that would be the better man for the position.

3. It is a pity that Dribble Boy won't be on the pitch because it would've been a delight to see him make a mockery of himself in the San Siro in front of the Curva Sud. :( I am sad with all my heart that he will not be on the pitch. His impact would've been visible to the whole world.

4. The potent finisher Trezeguet returns and that is not good news. Whatever he is, the one thing that goes with him is that he can finish and finish quite sweetly. Dangerous in the air and dangerous with the left and decent with the right. He and Nedved look like the most likely goalscorers if indeed Juve do score. If these two players are handled properly then I don't see Juve scoring from open play. Cannavaro on set pieces is the obvious danger man. Emerson will put in a shabby performance as usual as he saves his worst for Milan. It's the 'Black Beast' effect.

Tactics
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--- Ancelotti [M I L A N] ---
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Ancelotti knows that our schedule is the tougher one on paper and this is our direct chance to take a decisive lead in the Scudetto race. He has mentioned that the players are not that tired and can get through this. I get the feeling that even he knows that this game and UCL Final are the two important games where he will require the services of his full strength 11. For other games he will rotate surely so he will try to give it his all in this encounter.

A) Playing at home and playing a weakened Juve to decide a Scudetto is reason enough to do them good.

B) Juve's midfield is not that creative but their team overall is effective in getting an odd goal. Nedved, Camoranesi and Trezeguet would be the players that stand out offensively. All the others can range from Good -> What the fvck was that?

C) Try to get the control in midfield. It is something that has been lacking in Milan's play over the 90mins. We have phases where we control the midfield but it hasn't been at the level of the Utd. games where we dictated the play and tempo of the match.

D) Better finishing this time than the last time when we visited the Bianconeri. More chances, more shots on goal and more goals would be good enough. Just run 'em ragged. :stuckup:

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--- Capello [J U V E N T U S] ---
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Juve lost out in Europe once again as they played one of the most gutless games of the season against a very determined Liverpool side who really wanted to get the result they came for. Juve was $hit scared and made a hash of it making Liverpool's job more easier. Nothing to take away from Pool. They were ready for anything to be thrown at them ... even the kitchen sink! Juve had nothing to throw or didn't want to throw. It was a different Juve from the one that faced Real in Torino.

A) This is Juve's realistic chance to win something big in the season. It is a trophy that they are way too familiar with winning it a record number of times. Juve is the toughest side to beat in the Serie A and the easiest side to beat in a European final. Story of their life. This is a Serie A game. They can't be underestimated no matter how good the odds look. Capello will know that too and will make the final war-cry for his jailbirds.

B) It would be a mistake to come searching for the draw as Juve will end up with nothing. They have to come for the win. As daunting a task as that may seem to be, it is not impossible. Dribble Boy not playing is a blessing in disguise and Juve is not that weak as is made out to be. They lack creativity but their mechanical game is still spot on.

C) Juve will play on the break and use the wings. Capello will know that he can exploit Milan from the wings and try to do that. The thing is that the game in Eindhoven was very different but that is Juve's best bet. To use Zambro and Camo on the flanks to create something and Nedved in the middle to do some damage from either passes or strikes himself.

KEY BATTLES
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Shevchenko Vs. Thuram

Crespo Vs. Cannavaro

Kaka Vs. Emerson

Seedorf Vs. Camoranesi

Pirlo Vs. Nedved

Gattuso Vs. Zambrotta

Nesta Vs. Del Piero :D

Stam Vs. Trezeguet

The important one is the Pirlo Vs. Nedved battle. It will define THE FUNERAL.

KEY MEN
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Seedorf
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He has taken a lot of criticism after his game in Eindhoven. Nonetheless Clarence is a very valuable asset for us and in games like these he shows us why he is so important for us. Seedorf had a bad game but he was not playing in his position and his role was different. He'll bounce back. He is one of the reasons this Milan side is special. He is a big match player ready for the big occasions. The opponent is big as well with a set of sweater puppets sagging below the belly button as she is an Old Lady now.

Trezeguet
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Juve needs goals to survive in this game. Their potent scorer is the best bet to deliver that classic sucker punch to Milan. He can't create a goal but he can score an unbelievable goal. A dangerous striker who has to be kept in check. He has not hit form as he has had an injury ridden season. He will surely want to put his signature on this game of all games for the Scudetto showdown and make his scarce contribution one of the most important ones this season.

Prediction

I don't have much to say in this. There is one thing to say though. Genio did post that Milan has not a Scudetto in beating Juve in that post from the Milan official site. We have beaten quite a few records under Ancelotti. Last season was record breaking season and this season records have fallen as well. History would be against us if we were to defeat Juve but this Milan side does have a knack of defying history and raising the bar. The records speak for themselves.

Juve is the fresher side. Juve is the side with the lesser pressure to win this game or the title as Milan is gunning for the double.

Saying that, Juve is meeting the wrong team in the wrong place at the wrong time. :devil: Juve is on the Highway to Hell and it ain't pretty. The Beginning of the End. :devil:

:star: Forza Milan :star:

Dil dil

07-05-2005, 19:05

I think that juve is hard team but I have strong trust on Milan that
they win by good perform and result so I think we will win 2-1
or draw 1-0

Ukrainian

07-05-2005, 22:35

We will WIN this game!! Shevagol! AC Dynamo Saopaolo all the way!! :) :)

Ukrainian

07-05-2005, 22:38

Only joking about the AC Dynamo Sao Paolo. Although, Im quite serious when I say Milan will win. :)

jani

07-05-2005, 22:49

Winnie The Pooh Dilemma

I for one never understood what was going through the heads of Disney animators when they created Winnie the Pooh. Why the fvck would you make the bear wear a red sweater and during Winter editions / Christmas Editions make him wear hats and scarfs as well but never put pants / trousers / underwear on the fvcker? :wth: Winnie The Pooh is the Ron Jeremy of cartoons! Never keeps his pants on!

Haha what the hell was that? :D:D:D

meazza

08-05-2005, 05:42

guys I'm being totally honest, I had a dream last night in which Milan won 6-0!!!!

ok it was a bit strange, colocinni scored first and he looked like roger federer, then Zola scored with a cheeky header (?) then Nesta scored (someone who actually plays with us) but he was 8 foot tall and wore the number 10. For some reason I never saw the rest but afterwards I went to a bar called MilanMania haha (i was accosted by skin heads going there) and shouted "WAHEY" when I walked in, my friends where there who never cared about milan but a sexy italian girl kissed me on the cheek.

all in all a very good night.

I hope the bits that can come true do!

Gio-mania

08-05-2005, 05:55

jani

08-05-2005, 06:01

Newspaper Line Ups

MILAN: Dida; Cafu, Nesta, Stam, Maldini; Gattuso, Pirlo, Ambrosini; Kakà; Shevchenko, Tomasson.
JUVENTUS: Buffon; Pessotto, Thuram, Cannavaro, Zambrotta; Camoranesi, Emerson, Appiah, Nedved; Del Piero, Trezeguet.

Is it a good decision having such a defensive midfield againts a rather weak Juventus midfield?

Where the f*ck is Rui Costa? He should be in there instead of Ambro/Gattuso.

mk18

08-05-2005, 06:17

if anyone serginho should play... though i think seedorf should start!

Gio-mania

08-05-2005, 07:36

all we have to do is pressure them- win the midfield battle.
if we are able to do that we will most likely create many chances, and with a guy like sheva in front we will score. in defensive terms gattuso should run after those balls......and our defense should stay aware during the game....
but the key is the midfield, with that solved- so will the rest

Helena

08-05-2005, 08:05

Lets hope the team can do better today!!

All game-comments in this thread or will there be a new thread??

FORZA MILAN!! *Keeps my fingers crossed*

Gipson

08-05-2005, 08:08

Lets hope the team can do better today!!

All game-comments in this thread or will there be a new thread??

FORZA MILAN!! *Keeps my fingers crossed*
There is a new thread ;)