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here it is!!! ... oh my god i cannot wait, i havent followed football for a long long long while but id 'run right to hell and back' just to watch this one!!! lets give abbiati a little reminder on things run in the lions den!!!
i hope haroon comes up with a nice preview
Milan3869
27-10-2005, 02:33
if sheva plays we win....if he doesn't we'll still win but it'll be close....
forza milan!!! kick the shlt out of juventus!!
Warro Bantan
27-10-2005, 10:57
As fate would have it, I will miss seeing the game live, as I return from Costa Rica on Saturday, and by the time I clear customs etc in Jamaica, the game will be over. :moan:
While I have asked my more reliable friends to tape the match for me, who knows if they will, and though watching the tape will be better than nothing... I still prefer to see the game live.
As for my thoughts on the game:
I really need to see the squad list before I will pontificate on the outcome. Based on general form going into the game, both teams are playing well, and Juve unfortunately have shrugged off the loss thru injury of Viera.
Their midfield, is generally more combative than ours, and for this reason I believe (unfortunately) the ref will play an extremely important part in the proceedings.
Milanium
27-10-2005, 11:01
Hey, look at this ZIbra... I mean Ibra, what a CLOWN just wait 'till we see you again :w209: ... Job Well Done! St. Maldini. :clap:
hitmannq8
27-10-2005, 11:21
looks like Sheva and Nesta will both be missing
Nah you are basing that on nothing.
slicknick
27-10-2005, 12:11
I cannot deny the fact that I'm nervous...but I still do believe. It is going to be hard no matter who is absent or present, however we can still pull it off. As long as our players believe there is nothing they cannot do. FORZA MILAN! Come on Rossoneri, get your butts in front of that damn TV
Rayno_acm
27-10-2005, 12:22
I'm very excited about this game. I don't know whether I'll watch it, it depends on the bulgarian tv station Ring TV... :w221:
We will be without Sheva and Nesta, it's gonna be very difficult game for us. But I know that our players are good enough to beat every team on this planet. :3band: I think our strenght will be the will to revenge for what happened on May 8th 2005, we didn't deserve it, and now is the pay off time.
I could happen everything, but I have the feeling we're not gonna loose this one... :5ok: :3band:
Dr Milano
27-10-2005, 12:52
They will settle for a draw i guess thier 5 points ahead already But Milan will enshallah win this game and move 2 points
some people on goal.com say sheva and nesta will play, i hope its truth! Without sheva we are in big trouble, and nesta is perfect man to destroy that Ibracadabra idiot....
Be need to fight in the middle, make fouls, get fouled, everything for win, its the only way on saturday against those K1 players in juve. FORZA MILAN
shevagol_7
27-10-2005, 13:14
I think we can beat Juventus this weekend no doubt about it. The thing is we cannot make any mental mistakes at the back. When we get scored on to me at least it looks like the defenders are napping. I am hoping to see Billy and Maldini start in the middle of defence as they both look totally reliable in the back. Sheva is still a doubt for the match as of right now hopefully we will have him back if not let me be the first to suggest the christmas tree. I know many here hate the formation but IMO it is a really effective. It allows to control the game better and makes us less susceptible to counters. With Gilardino looking much better he'll be able to score a few with Rui and Kaka' backing him up.
A big blow for Juventus is that Patrick Viera is a doubt for this weekend. He has been the main man in midfield. He works hard for the ball and sets up their counterattacks with a lot of speed. Should he be in I'm confident that Gattuso will be able to shut him down.
My line up for Saturday is:
-------Dida-------------
Cafu-Billy-Maldini-Kaladze
-------Pirlo--------------
Gatusso-------Seedorf
--------Kaka'--------
Shevchenko/Rui-----Gila
hitmannq8
27-10-2005, 15:00
OK Nesta is almost certain to play, i read this from a source on calciomercato..
Sheva no news in him, which usually means that its not good :/
but I would certainly go with the x-mas tree formation if Sheva is not back, and with Gila up front alone we will be able to score a few goals at least!
this is my formation:
Stam - Nesta - Maldini - Jankulovski
Gattuso - Pirlo - Seedorf
Rui Costa - Kaka
Gila
Yes cafu is missing, i am one of his fans if you believe it or not, but truth is, he is not performing as well as he used to perform last season :( But with my formation our right-flank will be very useless, so maybe we can put in Serginho at left-back, and Jankulovski as a right-midfielder?
what ya'all think?
shevagol_7
27-10-2005, 15:05
OK Nesta is almost certain to play, i read this from a source on calciomercato..
Sheva no news in him, which usually means that its not good :/
but I would certainly go with the x-mas tree formation if Sheva is not back, and with Gila up front alone we will be able to score a few goals at least!
this is my formation:
Stam - Nesta - Maldini - Jankulovski
Gattuso - Pirlo - Seedorf
Rui Costa - Kaka
Gila
Yes cafu is missing, i am one of his fans if you believe it or not, but truth is, he is not performing as well as he used to perform last season :( But with my formation our right-flank will be very useless, so maybe we can put in Serginho at left-back, and Jankulovski as a right-midfielder?
what ya'all think?
If Ancelotti opts for Stam over Cafu then that is a good formation. But the only change I would make is switching Seedorf with Gattuso. Seedorf looked much better on the right and Gattuso will cover for Jankulovski's overlapping runs.
well, without sheva we could use 4-5-1, but knowing Carlo's fera of Berlusconi that will not happen. So we will start with gila-pippo probably. But I still think we really need sheva and NESTA. Billy could have some serious problems with Ibrahimovic. Anyway, I expect total war in the middle and we will need some luck for this one. I cant wait...
Milanium
27-10-2005, 15:09
We've been playing pretty well lately, our confidence is getting rock solid
after each great performance, our two tower strikers finally started
their strides, these crosses are fitting their stature perfectly, plus our serpent super Pippo is looking really dangerous these days, motivation is ever greater on everyone, shall we win this game, then we would've gotten rid of the CL ghost and NOW ready to win it all this time. C'MOM... FORZA MILAN!!! GET FULL OF REVENGE...
i really hope sheva makes it... hes been vital in our recent matches vs juve... if its anything that can terrorize their amazing defence its him, i would also like to see jankulovski, he is amazing and i think with him sending in those crosses gila should score more than one.
gila is beginning to warm up, here's to him opening his home account on sunday.
Serie A: 2005-6
Matchday 10
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Saturday [October 29, 2005]
Kick-off -> 19:30 (UK Time): Bravo
PREVIEW
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Don Fabio's unstoppable juggernaut travels to Hell to taste the fire and warmth of Ancelotti's Milan. Juve shattered its own record of most consecutive wins to start off a season set in the 80's by Giovanni Trapattoni's [at that time he was Trapattoni; now he is Crapattoni!] all conquering Juve side. They went one better and have got straight 9 wins out of 9! :thumbsup: It is an amazing start to the season with clear signs of intent and danger for opponents. By the look of things a team can't lose more than 3 games [4 games tops] or it could be the end. The standards set are very high and Juve have already got a 5 point lead due to that stupendously unbelievable start!
Milan had an ok start to the season and because of that there is a 5 point gap in the standings as Juve simply mounted win after win to slowly get a firm grip on the title they won last May. Milan has gotten off to a good fiery run to match Juve's streak to keep within touching distance but there is no room for slip-ups right now. Capello's teams have never let go of an 8 point lead in a league campaign so that does send an ominous sign for the chasing pack!
This is a good time for Milan to do something that others haven't been able to do as yet and pull a fast one on La Vecchia Signora.
-> Milan plays at home,
-> Juve has an unusually long undefeated streak that is comprised of straight wins only,
-> Juve hasn't had a goalless game for some time as I recall it,
-> Milan did not defeat Juve last season thereby increasing the chance of a win.
So the stage is well and truly set for a Milan win. It comes down to pouncing on Juve and not letting them get into any sort of rhythm.
Juve is a mean machine - a ruthlessly efficient machine that hardly ever breaks down. The best way to stop the consistently reliable machine from functioning properly is to prevent it to get into any sort of rhythm right at the start. If that doesn't happen then it becomes difficult to stop the momentum because defeating Juve in the Serie A is the most difficult thing to do. I consider it on the same level as trying to defeat Brasil in the World Cup Finals competition. Both have a special pedigree in the respective competitions I am talking about. A team has to play out of their skins to topple them or Juve / Brasil will need to have an out of the blue night for them to falter in the Serie A / Coupe de Monde.
This is the kind of game that a fan relishes when the challenge is tough. :cool: It is the biggest game on the Italian calendar and the venue being the magnificent San Siro just makes it a superb clash in prospect.
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---> M I L A N <---
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The Rossoneri are playing well enough to really shake the foundation on which Juve stands tall proudly at this moment. The strength in depth is showing as Milan has done well without Sheva, Nesta, Kaka, Maldini and Ambrosini in various games. All four Milan strikers are on the score sheet already. Assists by Kaka, Jankulovski, Kaladze, Rui, Seedorf and Maldini are already there while Gattuso and Maldini have also scored. Stam has improved his performances a lot as well and he is focused to make his last season at Milan a memorable and victorious one. There is much more rotation to keep the players healthy and the goals are coming from a lot of different players which is always a positive sign. Juve is coming for a head-on collision with the Pain Train. :devil:
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---> J U V E N T U S <---
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The Bianconeri made the signing of the Summer last season when they snatched Fabio Capello. I still can't come to terms how they managed to pull off a Scudetto last season with Blasi in central midfield. :rolleyes: This season they grabbed Vieira in a cut-price deal when most people thought that Vieira was just a diversion as Juve was really chasing Gerrard. Gerrard is a massive player but Juve won't be complaining too much with Paddy joining their ranks. I always had this inkling that Vieira was the perfect fit for Juve. He didn't even take time to settle. He scored 3 goals so quickly that it took him 8 years to do that at the Arsenal.
The one fear I had of Capello joining Juve was that he could create a dynasty. He built a fearsome Milan side and then moved to Real to instantly win. He made Roma a force in the Serie A at least after almost two decades so when he moved to Juve; a club that traditionally has been the giant in the Serie A, then with the Don at the helm it was probable that a very tough period was in store for the opposition. Fear not as Milan is the antidote to Juve. :devil:
Probable Starting Line-Up(s)
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---> Milan <---
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Formation: 4-4-2 diamond (4-1-2-1-2)
------------------------------- Dida --------------------------------
---- Cafu ------------ Nesta --------- Maldini ------------ Kaladze ---
------------------------------- Pirlo --------------------------------
---------- Seedorf ----------------------------- Jankulovski ---------
------------------------------- Kaka --------------------------------
----------------- Gilardino ---------------- Vieri ---------------------
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--- Ancelotti [M I L A N] ---
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1. I would play the above line-up although in all honesty it may not be the likely line-up. The reason for playing that line-up IMO is to match strength for strength. Gattuso has been playing a stretch of games and this match will require a lot of work rate. Our probable midfield might be Gattuso, Pirlo, Seedorf and Kaka but nowadays one can never tell. :) I would rather go with something new than the tried and tested. ;)
2. Playing a midfield of Seedorf, Pirlo, Jankulovski and Kaka gives width on the left from both the midfield and defence (Janku and Kaladze) with good crossing plus it gives strength in the shape of Seedorf who is a tank with skills on the ball that will be essential in this match. I would be ok with Ambrosini here as well if fit. Pirlo is not the strongest on the pitch so some good cover and good passers will help to let him do his job as Juve like to press hard.
3. We need goalscorers on the pitch. End of. Juve has the strongest midfield [physically] in Europe. Nedved, Vieira, Emerson and Camoranesi are very strong in tackling, ball-winning and passing. Getting past that midfield is the key and for that a team needs incisive passing and pace to force them into mistakes.
4. There's a good bunch of subs available to change things. Stam could even start at RB while Inzaghi can come off the bench with Rui in fine fettle as well.
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---> Juventus <---
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Formation: 4-4-2 flat
------------------------------ Abbiati --------------------------------
---- Blasi ---------- Thuram ----------- Cannavaro -------- Zambro ---
------------------- Emerson ------------ Vieira -----------------------
----- Camo ---------------------------------------------- Nedved ----
------------------ Trezeguet ---------- Zlatan ------------------------
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--- Capello [J U V E N T U S] ---
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1. Capello said that his Juve side was complete when he acquired the services of former Arsenal captain Patrick Vieira. Capello feels that his side is good enough to compete on all fronts with a realistic chance to win every trophy albeit, the Holy Grail that is the UEFA Champions League remains top priority for the club from Torino for this season.
2. Juve will be trying to get Vieira match-fit for this key clash as they have suffered in his absence. Giannichedda cannot handle Emerson's role who in turn cannot handle Vieira's role. It is a step down for Juve so in order to get that offensive 'spark', they need the talismanic Frenchman to lead the charge in the middle in light of the waning Nedved who used to be the torch-bearer in seasons past.
3. Juve have been trying out Blasi to fill that problematic right back role in the absence of the injured Zebina. Capello will likely stick with Blasi knowing that Milan has good crossers from the left side in the shape of Kaladze, Jankulovski and even Serginho, one of which is definitely going to figure from the start and maybe even two depending on the starting line-up.
4. Mutu is slowly becoming a part of the side and his presence will grow as the season progresses. He could take over from Nedved in the game or may even start to cause problems for Seedorf / Gattuso or whoever plays there. Kovac is also doing well so he could feature depending on the match situation. Del Piero is being used sparingly but he is having an impact when coming on. He likes this clash and has hurt the Milan clubs in the past.
KEY BATTLES
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Kaka vs. Emerson
Pirlo vs. Vieira
Seedorf vs. Nedved
Jankulovski vs. Camoranesi
Gilardino vs. Cannavaro
Nesta vs. Zlatan
KEY MEN
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Kaka
He's become an even stronger and more intelligent player this season. I am surprised at the way he has adapted so quickly to the Serie A and at a gigantic club like Milan. He plays well within himself and he is so quick in learning the culture at Milan. Listening to a couple of his interviews just reflects that even though he is the new symbol of marketing of Milan, he has remained down to earth and not lost humility because of what he is. :cool: The things he says gives one the feeling as if he has been at Milanello for years. :proud: He is a special kind. It is a lovely sight to see the 'Speed Demon' with the ball at his feet. He doesn't run ... he glides. :) His say in the game could have a profound result in the end.
Vieira
He laid all his ghosts of his short stint in the Serie A to rest instantly and has taken the reigns of the Raging Bull. Juve has looked an infinitely better side with Vieira in the middle. They look composed, confident and so much in control of the game. Juve is never the flashy side. They are all about the end product. Vieira has improved the potency of Juve to an extent that they look good enough to watch compared to last season's horrible gameplay at times.
Funny that the Mirror came up with the headlines that Ferguson was monitoring Vieira as he could be willing to leave as early as next Summer due to racist chants? :googly: :tongue: That was n-e-w-s with a capital 'N' to me.
PREDICTION
It is the biggest game of the calendar with a lot at stake for both clubs. Juve know that if they pull off another shock win at the Stadio San Siro to make it two out of two considering last season's win as well, then they would take quite a big step to be in the comfort zone while a draw would be quite a good result as Inter lost ground in an upset loss to Roma. Milan, on the other hand need the win desperately to close the 5 point gap because there is always a risk of Juve pulling further away if the 5 point gap is maintained after this game. It is fair to say that this is on paper the toughest game for Juve to come to a fired up San Siro and face a Milan that wants blood. The choice for Milan is quite straight-forward and that is to win as a 5 point lead is risky. It has to be cut down. Juve can afford the loss as long as they don't get steam-rolled which can hurt their confidence. A hard-fought loss wouldn't be the end of the world and maybe Juve will come for the draw and hope for the best.
There are scores to settle. There is revenge on the agenda and the quality on the pitch makes it quite a difficult game with regards to goals but an early goal would make it a fantastic spectacle IMO.
--->>> Milan to pull off a win by two goals to keep in the race for the Scudetto and Juve might not even score keeping in mind their consistent scoring record.
P.S. I don't know why the images are not shown on the Milanmania forums and instead the links just appear?
Warro Bantan
27-10-2005, 18:34
Haroon, truly a "post for the Gods"! Excellent post, well thought out, and as soon as I get out of this meeting, I will add a few comments.
Does anyone have details of Sheva's scoring record against Juve freely available?
From memory it's exceptional, capped by that wonderful goal four years ago at the San Siro, one of my all time favourites.
Billy_Montreal
27-10-2005, 19:21
Does anyone have details of Sheva's scoring record against Juve freely available?
From memory it's exceptional, capped by that wonderful goal four years ago at the San Siro, one of my all time favourites.
Yes that one was a real gem...the lob from the right side that sailed over Buffon .. brilliance.
Bosniaco
27-10-2005, 19:56
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Milanium
28-10-2005, 03:53
Maldini To Play Against Juventus
http://www.goal.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=96829&idSez=16
10/28/2005 7:42:00 AM
This was confirmed by Cesare Maldini, father of Paolo and former Italian national team coach.
Saturdays big match will not lose one of its main key figures: Paolo Maldini. This was revealed by Maldini senior who reassured the Rossoneri fans that his son will recover in time for the must-win game.
"Once in a while he has some minor problem, but he will play against Juventus," declared Cesare. "Milan has no weak points.
In the meantime, it is still unclear whether Andriy Shevchenko will recover in time for this encounter. Reports in Italy are suggesting that the Ukrainian forward will start the match against Juventus, but the Milan medics are still cautious.
juve will play like this......
....................chimenti.............
zambrotta--thuram--cannavaro--chiellini
---------emerson----vieira----
camoranesi----------------nedved------
------trezeguet----ibrahimovic-----------
or....
..................chimenti..................
pessoto--thuram--cannavaro--zambrotta
..................................................
..........................
...........
in any case, i dont expext blasi as a RB for this one. And we really need sheva up front with gila, but most of all we need good pirlo and kaka. Seedrof or Jankulovsky? I think Seedorf, gattuso has to play his part also.
I hope Stam is available for this Titan clash. I don't trust Billy against the likes of Ibrahimovic. I strongly beleive we will win this match.
Forza Milan
I hope Stam is available for this Titan clash. I don't trust Billy against the likes of Ibrahimovic. I strongly beleive we will win this match.
Forza Milan
Billy had Zlatan in his pocket last season in the Delle Alpi game. :) :dcool: Nesta has some trouble against Zlatan but not to a worrying extent.
devoted_dm
28-10-2005, 11:16
I really doubt that Billy's gonna play, as we have Maldini, Stam and Nesta back. Even if Nesta won't play, then Maldini should be able to take care of Zlatan just fine.
Does anyone else find it fishy that Bertini (who denied 2 crystal clear penalties against us in Torino last season) is apointed to lead this game?
humanTORCH
28-10-2005, 11:55
I think nesta should be back for the juve match. The question now is sheva? :(
haroon great post once again and as optimistic as ever. :howler:
The key of winning these game lies on the midfield.
Well, well, well. Abbiati won't play against us, because of "tonsillitis" and "personal motives". Forza Abbiati! Always a class act.
http://www.goal.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=96971&progr=8
Now I can understand why Don Capello is so worry about tomorrow's at San Siro....
Here is the latest news from acmilan.com :
GOALKEEPERS: Dida, Kalac
DEFENDERS: Cafu, Costacurta, Kaladze, Maldini, Nesta, Jankulovski, Simic, Stam.
MIDFIELDERS: Gattuso, Kaką, Pirlo, Rui Costa, Seedorf, Serginho, Vogel.
STRIKERS: Inzaghi, Gilardino, Shevchenko, Vieri
My only question who is missing in this full squad of the mighty Milan??
Oh yes....now I remeber who is missing...Christian Maldini......cause he will be in the squad nother 10 years from tomorrow..... :clap: :clap:
Christian Abbiati willnot play against Milan for "strange reason"...tonsilitis and personal reason....
I believe that he is worry that everyone in Milan knew his weakness...so he prefers to have tonsilitis rather than picking balls from his net for 5 times at least :kap: :kap:
I can't wait to watch the game as I will put my money on Milan though the handicap is 1/4 given to Juve...
Will hte Curva Sud be empty again tomorrow like when Milan played Empoli..????
I don't think that FOSSA DEI LEONI BRIGADE will miss this opportunity to support Milan.... :5chore: :5chore:
hitmannq8
28-10-2005, 14:36
Aneclotti then revealed his pre-game tactics: In order to widen the field of play and not get caught in Emerson and Vieira's vice-grip, I've decided to play Jankulovski in Kakąs attacking midfield role. But, immediately after that Carlo Ancelotti jokingly smiled, acknowledging that he wasnt serious. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HE BETTER HOPE HE IS JOKING OR I WILL FLY TO MILANELLO TO DEAL WITH HIM
Stam, Nesta, Maldini are all back thats comforting. I dont think Sheva will start honestly, if he comes in the last 15 minutes even he might get injured, i think its better that we do not play him unless we really need him towards the end of the game.
On the football italia website it doesnt say he was joking :ilol: I wasnt too happy for a minute there :rone:
humanTORCH
28-10-2005, 15:15
How I wish Abbiati would play. Juve always have 12 players on the field.
At least we have Abbiati to have a butter hands when Milan have a shot on goal just for this special match.
Too bad Juve know our plan :rone:
I really dont know what happened to Abbiati. :sagrin: He was a very good when Zacheroni was manager. I cant wait for this match, So far iv only watched juve against Bayern and Samp. I wasnt very impressed either game even though they beat samp 3-0. We can really take them to the cleaners. i worry that we will dominate them, but not having Sheva may cost us.
humanTORCH
28-10-2005, 15:33
See how the match will go.Domination of ball posession can tilt either way. But I think juve will be Juve where they will play on the counter since we are playing home.That's worry me most when players like trezegay and zlatan will punish us with half chances while we 'over commited' to attack.
I hope will will be fully concentrated for the 90 mins.
Hope our boy wonder, kaka will have a good match as he is the one who can cause havoc to Juve defence.
Roger Nolli
28-10-2005, 16:43
MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII LAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!
Forza! Forza! Forza!
We will rock them!!
Will hte Curva Sud be empty again tomorrow like when Milan played Empoli..????
I don't think that FOSSA DEI LEONI BRIGADE will miss this opportunity to support Milan.... :5chore: :5chore:
The Curva will be packed to the rafters. :devs:
Kaka and Pirlo need to put in big performances here. Hopefully Sheva can play, but if not our best chances might come from a break down a wing and a cross for Gila and Inzaghi/Vieri all of whom are excellent in the air. Hopefully they can have the beating of Cannavaro and Thurma can only mark one. Some pinpoint crossing from Janku or Seedorf could really do some damage imo.
slicknick
28-10-2005, 18:19
Let's see what's gonna happen on Sunday. I have decided to remain silent and keep my fingers crossed till then ;)
zlatanov
28-10-2005, 19:04
Let's see what's gonna happen on Sunday. I have decided to remain silent and keep my fingers crossed till then ;)
Actually the game is on Saturday so you won't have to keep silent for much longer :5ok:
FORZA MILAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN !!!!!!!!!!!
Milanium
28-10-2005, 20:06
Milan needs to cut juve's playing rythm right there real quick this is key, I hope Gattusso leads the pack on this mission, if there's a performance slack then he should increase the group's mental focus and awareness while defending at overlapped set-pieces, and keep them that focused throughout the game. Seedorf we need you concentrated, try to always step up the momentum of attacks not otherwise, always watch your back, do not slack keep up the pressure performance through and through, bring the best of your skills for perfect crosses, make more shoots out the box as well as Pirlo, these two guys with those passing abilities need to start shooting more at goal now, those are gonna be spectacularly beautiful goals, then get that into a stride for a Milan matchless firepower.
Now if our strikers are mostly expecting wing crosses, they most try to make lot of space for themselves, I hope for Vieri to become faster, unpredictable, furtive, always on the move. Gila is looking very motivated and really ambitious as well as Pippo, and what to say about our defense...St. Maldini, well he'll be there cursing the devil out Zibrah's a$$, as well as "Stam" (or Billy) and Nesta to assist on set-pieces, retrieve into zone marking to relieve pressure from our impossing play and incessant attack, giving more space to the whole game so we can reorganize, open middle spaces and create productive counter-attacks.
So this is it, a focused overlapping set-pieces defence to break Juve's rythm, and zone defence to open up for counter attacks, perfect passing
for rythm imposition, beautiful wing crosses plus furtive strikers, is that too much to ask to dream again???...
I wish you LUCK GUYS!!!
ANCELOTTI ON SHEVA: 'If he's in pain he won't be risked'
10/28/2005
MILAN - Il Corrierre dello Sport reported what Carlo Ancelotti had to
say about Andriy Shevchenko: 'I don't know if he'll play even if the
situation as improved in the last few days. There is one certain
thing: Sheva will only take the pitch if the pain has completely
passed. If not then we will sit it out. Anyway, we'll decide in the
last training session before the game.'
The coach also spoke about Nesta and Stam: Alessandro is a lot better.
The situation is improving all the time, I doubt there will be
problems. As for Stam, he had a fitness test before the Empoli game
but it wasn't worth the risk. We'll see again how things are.'
I'll see the game and then talk about it this time! Aldought i must say i hope Jankulovsky plays instead of seedorf so he can play down the flanks a few times. FORZA MILAN, lets destroy the mafia!! And Bertini
MadeMashin
29-10-2005, 10:51
on www.acmilanclub.com it says shevchenko is ready for the game :1five:
Seedorf will definately play. The only question is who will play out of Sergi and Kaladze. I hope its Janku :rone:
Iv had a look on the official website and the starting lineups predicted by the papers which are almost always the exect same and 100% right. But today they differ on Serginio and Kaladze being right back and Stam or Cafu at right back. I hope we dont have Rino and Stam on the right or we would have to totaaly depend on the left for our attacks. maybe seedorf could be moved right and janku play on the right. ifits is necessary to have Rino then cafu needs to play. Or we could even drop the left back, play 3 at the back and play
-------------------Dida----------------------
---------Stam----Nesta-----Maldini-----------
Seedorf-------Rino------Pirlo--------Jankulovski
-------------------Kaka-----------------------
------------Gilardino---Inzaghi------------------
marek would be more usefull in the middle today, kaladze behind him. or marek as a LB and seedorf in front , but hat is a bit dangerous for our defence
Im not sure Carlo will play Janku in the middle and drop another midfielder after seeing so little of him. Its pretty exciting not knowing the starting lineup for once. maybe we had become too predictable. janku has added something else to our squad. :3band:
hitmannq8
29-10-2005, 11:26
Here's the most probable formation by Correile de Sera and Il Giornale, they had the correct lineup prediction for the empoli game.
----------------- DIDA -------------
CAFU -- NESTA - MALDINI - KALADZE
GATTUSO ---- PIRLO -------- SEEDORF
------------- KAKA -------------------
------PIPPO --------------- GILA ------
and damn Inter are lucky to have just draw with Samp, it finished 2-2..
meanwhile, i do not agree with those who think that we only need the 3points from this game, but they are our primary objective.. ibelieve it is extremely important not to be thrown around and get our asses kicked and just win.. we need to woop them with some impressive display so it'll affect our players psychiologically.. what ya'all think?
but this formation says sheva is out....:(
Il be happy with that lineup, it will be a massive pshycological advantage if we give them a hiding, but il take any sort of win. Just imagine if they were to win.
Sheva may come off the bench, hopefully he wont need to.
slicknick
29-10-2005, 12:30
Let's see. This is the big one...I'm sooo excited, regardless of who is playing...Then again, I would like to see Marek and Gila start up.Kaladze might also be given a chance....It is just too complicated, even the thought of it gets me riled up, I am stressed!
does anyone know if they show this game on PPLive, and if so on which channel
please reply a.s.a.p ... i swear i woke up 5 hrs into my sleep to write this and i really need to watch the match
zlatanov
29-10-2005, 12:34
does anyone know if they show this game on PPLive, and if so on which channel
please reply a.s.a.p ... i swear i woke up 5 hrs into my sleep to write this and i really need to watch the match
yes, it's on pplive - Shanghai Sports (shtv-sports) and Guandong Sports (gdtv-sports)
speaking of which... u live in boston right?... do u know any channels on like... ehm... normal TV... with no cable or whatever that would show this game it being a special one?
zlatanov
29-10-2005, 12:55
speaking of which... u live in boston right?... do u know any channels on like... ehm... normal TV... with no cable or whatever that would show this game it being a special one?
no, sorry :( ... you can watch soccer only on cable or sat tv.
Bosniaco
29-10-2005, 13:00
speaking of which... u live in boston right?... do u know any channels on like... ehm... normal TV... with no cable or whatever that would show this game it being a special one?
Ja zivim u Manchester, NH dodji kod mene pa da gledamo tekmu.
OFFICIAL LINE-UPS
MILAN: Dida; Stam, Nesta, Maldini, Serginho; Gattuso, Pirlo, Seedorf; Kaką; Inzaghi; Gilardino.
JUVENTUS: Chimenti; Pessotto, Thuram, Cannavaro, Zambrotta; Camoranesi, Emerson, Vieira, Nedved; Trezeguet, Ibrahimovic.
FORZA MILAN!!!
zlatanov
29-10-2005, 13:09
@ mk18 or anyone else interested in PPLive program schedules.
Here is a link to a football torrent forum where you can download full games you have missed via torrent files. There is also a part of the forum that explains everything on streams like PPStream and PPLive - it's in Football Files/Streams directory. In that "Streams" part you can find the weekly schedule of games on PPLive, PPStream, etc. The schedule covers all big European leagues but most importantly gives you the name of the the channel, on which a particular game will be shown.
Here is the link to that forum : http://www.fbtz.com/forum/index.php
There is a very simple and straight forward subscription and after that you are up and running.
hitmannq8
29-10-2005, 13:15
Official:
MILAN: Dida; Stam, Nesta, Maldini, Serginho; Gattuso, Pirlo, Seedorf; Kaką; Inzaghi; Gilardino.
JUVENTUS: Chimenti; Pessotto, Thuram, Cannavaro, Zambrotta; Camoranesi, Emerson, Vieira, Nedved; Trezeguet, Ibrahimovic.
zlatanov
29-10-2005, 13:16
Ja zivim u Manchester, NH dodji kod mene pa da gledamo tekmu.
:D
I am guessing that this was to mk18, right?
Well, the problem is he is from Jordan and there is very little chance he would understand that :rone:
FORZA MILAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN !!!!!!!!!!
shevagol_7
29-10-2005, 13:19
Official:
MILAN: Dida; Stam, Nesta, Maldini, Serginho; Gattuso, Pirlo, Seedorf; Kaką; Inzaghi; Gilardino.
JUVENTUS: Chimenti; Pessotto, Thuram, Cannavaro, Zambrotta; Camoranesi, Emerson, Vieira, Nedved; Trezeguet, Ibrahimovic.
So Serginho is in over Cafu and Jankulovski. I really would have liked to see Janku in he puts in some mean crosses. I think Cafu isn't in simply because Ancelotti doesn't trust Stam in the middle. This way he'll still own Zlatan without having Trez head in behind him :5milan: .
FORZA MILAAAAAAN!
Bosniaco
29-10-2005, 13:32
Sheva is not playing tonight
Bosniaco
29-10-2005, 13:40
Big battles between Nesta and Ibrahimovic
Bosniaco
29-10-2005, 13:40
Is he even on the bench?
I don't think he is.
Bosniaco
29-10-2005, 13:42
Gattuso just hit the post
Bosniaco
29-10-2005, 13:43
big tuckle from Gattuso on thuram who lost the ball and Gattuso hit the post , but referee blows the wisle for Foul
gatuso laid viera falt on his azz,with a crunching tackle then hit the post. :dcool:
Milan had more of the ball initially, but now juve seeing bit moretoo
seeedorrf!!!!!!!!!!!!1
class 1-2 with Gila and then a curled lob over the keeper, sorry deflection from viera
Bosniaco
29-10-2005, 13:47
GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL 1:0 sEEDORF
hahaha 1-0!!! Seedorf!!!
FORZA MILAN!!!!
Anyone has the link to open a pplive live stream?
Outstanding!!
Forza Milan!!
Bosniaco
29-10-2005, 13:50
Maldini Is Taking Care Of Ibra Right Now
maldini with a dangeous tackle on nedved, sends hi flying, but ref allows the counter, pippo gets crouded out
edit.....we seem to be winnin the physical battle, lets hope it lasts. Fullbacks and kaka are quiet though
Rino Gatusso iz back, hes playing like his old self!!! viera got a yellow
edit...another high tackle in viera from seedorf, nothing given :p017: the 10 foot tall man is getting kicked around :devf:
Bosniaco
29-10-2005, 13:54
Rino Gatusso iz back, hes playing like his old self!!! viera got a yellow
yEAH i NEVER SEEIN HIM PLAY LIKE THIS !
He used to when we won the CL
Great news, if Gattuso can frustrate Viera, he might well get sent off. He has a history of being sent off.
Gattuso is a master of frustrating.
Bosniaco
29-10-2005, 13:55
Sheva Is On Bench But He Is Not Dressed To Play
well if hes not fit enough to start, hes not fit enough to play
Gatusso just made another haaard challenge, and is arguing with Emerson, pretty agressive stuff :dumpf:
Is Bobo on the bench aswell?
well if hes not fit enough to start, hes not fit enough to play
He might be fit enough for 30 mins or so.
slicknick
29-10-2005, 13:58
25 min into the game
AC Milan:1
Juventus:0
14' Seedorf
sorry fit is he wrong word to use, he could manage 90 mins im sure, but the right word is risk. if hes not heeled enough to start then he cant play, thats my thinking any way, kkaaaaaaaaaaaka goal
Bosniaco
29-10-2005, 13:59
Goallllllllllllll
Bosniaco
29-10-2005, 14:01
2:0 kAKA SCORED
messy defnding in the box, ball bouncin around goes to kaka, beutiful volley on the penalty spot
slicknick
29-10-2005, 14:02
Kakaaaaaaaaaa!!!!
What more to say than:
FORZA MILAN!!
Looks like Kaka is having the best of the built up battle between him and Emerson!
i hope its 3-0 at half time :devf: we need to kill those demons
slicknick
29-10-2005, 14:02
We have to be careful in the defence though, they are going to try to come back at us
its amazing, we are winnin 2-0, but pippo and gila are pretty quiet after a lively start for both
the defence are focused, they are aggressive ad seem to be winnin their headers, which they havent done for a long time and the midfield are protecting tem well, including kaka
edit.....rino sent camronesi flying then went sliding into some1 two footed, i didnt see a card, did any1 else
Please not a big lead and second half capitulation :rolleyes:
This is nearly too good to be true :pr115:
slicknick
29-10-2005, 14:09
Rino has to be careful, hope he doesn't get sent off for all that
no no we need some roy keane type attitude, he shouldnt stop
arpanmilan
29-10-2005, 14:11
kaka makes it 2-0!!! scores from a volley
I think theres a delay in india :guw:
hahahah yea about 5 mins :) very interesting
dodgy defending from milan, nothing made of it tough
Thanks for the comments in this first time K77SH C!!, for a lot of us..youre the only reference of the match
slicknick
29-10-2005, 14:15
no no we need some roy keane type attitude, he shouldnt stop
But if he is off then we are down to ten men and there wouldn't be anyone to impose that Roy Keane type of attitude on our team.
About the dealy in India, I'm sure it is because of the time zones :tong:
im 2 excited to not talk 2 anyone
thuram elbowed gila, hes fine,but nothing given, seedorfs cool on the ball 2day
Yes thats true mate, thanks for ur posts!!!
ForZa Milan
slicknick
29-10-2005, 14:17
seedorfs cool on the ball 2day
Music to my ears
Well they are tackles people love to see in the premiership, and the ref seems happy to let hard challenges go. Its important for Rino to dominate viera mentally as keane always did. kaka gettin more involved, brought down, freekick drom pirlo, long range and a goooooooal in the bottom right hand corner!!!!!!!!
Bosniaco
29-10-2005, 14:18
Goalllllllllllllllllllll 3:0 Pirlo
bad goalkeeping for the goal, yeah pessotoo off for chielllini
Yeha!! It was a free kick??
the commentator just said bring on Gerrard :D
slicknick
29-10-2005, 14:20
Piiiirllloooooooo
chillini brought down outside the box by nesta, yellow
half time, Milan all over the zebras!!!!
i hope its 3-0 at half time :devf: we need to kill those demons
ok...done :clap:
Forza Milan
Both our centre-backs are booked...
Bosniaco
29-10-2005, 14:26
Well The Game Is Really Tiet, Strikers Didn T Do Nothing All Game Just The Midfield, Which Milan Definitly Won. If Juve Had Buffon Or Even Abbiati On Their Goal It Wouldn't Be This Result, May Be 1:0 Up Or Down. ALSO EXELLENT BLOCKING OF IBRA BY NESA AND MALDINI. GATTUSO IS PLAYING VERY WELL FOR SOME REASON :rone:
Well The Game Is Really Tiet, Strikers Didn T Do Nothing All Game Just The Midfield, Which Milan Definitly Won. If Juve Had Buffon Or Even Abbiati On Their Goal It Wouldn't Be This Result, May Be 1:0 Up Or Down. ALSO EXELLENT BLOCKING OF IBRA BY NESA AND MALDINI. GATTUSO IS PLAYING VERY WELL FOR SOME REASON :rone:
If doesnt exist :p017: :diablo:
hitmannq8
29-10-2005, 14:29
COME TO THE other thread we are there
the analyst are saying weve unleashed a pitball (Gatusso) on their midfield :punch:
Pirlos freekicked moved in the air, but the goalie should have done better, seedorfs shot took a deflection and Kakas goal was juts pure class and composure. Are we lucky, well fortune favours the brave!!
yeah and thi guy on goal.com wrote an article saying that kaka is dumb refering to what he said - which happens to be true - about emerson and vieira.. and guess what??
he made them both eat their words!! as well as that schmuck
come on the other thread mk18
keep it up boys! hope everyone is enjoying this ...
AC MILAN
29-10-2005, 15:06
Forza MILAN
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