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Warro Bantan
24-11-2005, 11:16
After the resounding victory in Istanbul, we can now shift our focus back to the scudetto chase.
Lecce, I believe, finally won a match last week, and will be looking to improve on that in the San Siro.
Milan only need to remain consistent, and after Simic´s stellar performance vs Fener, I look forward to seeing him in the starting line up, with Stam in the middle, giving San Paolo some much needed rest.
No predictions from me, but I think we should win this one, and start another good run of domestic form
Comments anyone? :sagrin:
Rayno_acm
24-11-2005, 11:47
I'm not sure, but I think this game will be on Saturday... :rollani:
Yeah, mate, yer right, Milan - Lecce game is on saturday eve, 20.30 CET.
Anyway...
Forza Milan
Bosniaco
24-11-2005, 13:25
Yes this game is on Saturday and GOL TV has this game LIVE. I think we will crush Lecce at least 4 goals in their net. FORZAAA MILANNNN
no disrepect to any other team, but we simply will win against a side like Lecce. :)
savage_mau
24-11-2005, 17:21
Milan will win despire lose last game in serial a and can built once agaian their winning strike.........Forza Milan...
if it is on saturdai'll be able to see it live on tv. nice..... if cafu is still injured we should once again use simic as a RB, rsting Maldini for Schalke game....it could look like this...
................dida...................
simic...nesta....stam...serginho...
..........vogel...........
....gattuso.....jankulovsky...
...........rui..........
.....sheva....pippo
we can rest Paolo, Seedorf, Cafu, Pirlo for next CL match, and we should still win against Lecce. Serginho needs to ne in, becouse if we start with kaladte and simic we will not be dangerous on the flanks.
next CL match is next week?
wow.. we crushed fener but that doesnt mean we WILL win this game... we should we probably will but we will not win this game with the attitude some of u are showing
Milan3869
25-11-2005, 04:02
lecce game should be in the bag, why play it? lol. no really, this game doesn't look like a trap game, and since we're playing in the san siro, it should be a blowout!!
maldini020
25-11-2005, 06:12
hi guys! against lecce we must win of course! so is every serie a match for us, a 100% must win.....
my line up:
Didia
Simic-Nesta-Stam-Kaladze
Seedorf-Vogel-Jankulovski
Rui Costa
Shevchenko(Captain)-Inzaghi
Maldiin, Kaka, Gattuso and Pirlo should be rested for our difficult matches against schalke and merda inter!! and i hope simic plays, because against fenerbahce he was one of our best, and in the CL-season 2002/03 he played 16 matches of 17!!!!
Bosniaco
25-11-2005, 08:37
I would play like a second team against Lecce
Dida
Simic Nesta Stam Kaladze
Vogel
Gattuso Jankulovski
Rui Costa
Pippo Bobo
Warro Bantan
25-11-2005, 09:46
I agree with most that we shouldnt have to field our strongest team vs Lecce, but we have to be careful to not allow them to benefit from us fielding players who do not have the chemistry and "mental telepathy" that the regular starters have developed.
There are no easy games in the Serie A, and as last season showed us, there are no "must wins" because the team we are up against is at the bottom of the table, or has lost 5 straight games.
I think that Pippo and Gila could start this game, with Sheva on the bench, and Vieri in the stands (where he should always sit unless one of the three aformentioned strikers is injured).
Vogel, Marek and Pirlo should start in the middle for me, with Rui behind the forwards indicated above.
The defense: Simic, Nesta Stam and Kaladze as Bosniaco has said, with Serghino coming on late in the game, depending on the score. (ie if it is tied, then bring him on, if we are ahead, rest him for the midweek fixture).
We cannot take Lecce lightly, and still need to field a strong team, while allowing our "starters" such as Clarence, Kaka, San Paolo and Sheva some much needed rest...
Depending on the outcome of the game, I would opt to rest Nesta as well, but this begs the question as to who to replace him.. Billy? No, I doubt he will see the pitch for the remainder of this season...further highlighting our defensive insufficiencies.
Warro Bantan
25-11-2005, 12:28
From: acmilan.com
MILAN-LECCE: 18-MAN SQUAD
11/25/2005
GOALKEEPERS: Dida-Kalac
DEFENDERS: Costacurta-Maldini-Nesta-Jankulovski-Simic-Stam
MIDFIELDERS: Gattuso-Pirlo-Rui Costa-Seedorf-Serginho-Vogel
STRIKERS: Gilardino-Inzaghi-Shevchenko-Vieri
So they have Janku lining up as a defender...hmmm, maybe we will see Serghino start in the middle then? :dontkn:
Anyway....FORZA MIIIIIIIIILAN!
Kaká's out.. How bad is his injury then?
Yeah, Lecce are in form at the momet, they crushed Siena in last giornada... so we should be alerted... we always have problems with small teams... :mad:
but I can recall last year when we crushed Viola in San Siro 6 - 0, and Lecce 5 - 2... who knows maybe the history repeats itself... please, for God's sake, no... we need a victory!!!
Forza Magico Milan
hitmannq8
25-11-2005, 15:02
for me I would field a 2nd string side.
Simic -- Stam - Nesta -- Serginho
Gattuso -- Vogel -- Jankulovski
--------- Rui Costa ------------- (Carlo confirmed he will start)
---- Vieri (sry all) -- Pippo ------
Hasan Rossonero
25-11-2005, 18:15
Yeah, Lecce are in form at the momet, they crushed Siena in last giornada... so we should be alerted... we always have problems with small teams... :mad:
but I can recall last year when we crushed Viola in San Siro 6 - 0, and Lecce 5 - 2... who knows maybe the history repeats itself... please, for God's sake, no... we need a victory!!!
Forza Magico Milan
dude for godsakes, take that thug's picture off. ;)
dude for godsakes, take that thug's picture off. ;)I hope you did not mean to insult me.
killiegradge
25-11-2005, 18:25
We must play a strong team.Why?Because I am going to be there and I want to see the best we have to offer.I have yet to see Gila so that would be good and of course Sheva being on fire at the moment will score if he plays.i'd also like to see Vieri and Pippo score.Lets face it I'd like the complete team to score a goal each-even Dida!
Seriously though I expect Sheva to play as he seems to be able to play 2x per week and not suffer any tiredness the way some less fit players do.Pirlo needs to play as he is not on top form and may be able to play himself into some form.Simic also will play.
I predict a comfortable 3-0 victory.Goals from Sheva(2) and Gila.
Milan will win 2-0 to lecce
our goal by Inzaghi - Gila or vieri
Kaladze is left out of the squad to face Lecce? Is he injured?
oh god, could u please stop underrating the opponent, alot of the times we do this we end up losing points.
we should field this team:
----------------------------------dida------------------------------------
-------simic---------stam/nesta--------nesta/maldini-------serginho-------
-------------------------------vogel-------------------------------------
---------gatuso-----------------------------------seedorf---------------
------------------------------rui costa----------------------------------
-----------------shevchenko-------------vieri---------------------------
Milan3869
26-11-2005, 03:10
nah more like this:
--------------dida---------------
simic-----stam-----nesta-----janku
----gattuso----pirlo------serginho
-------------rui costa-------------
---------gila------vieri------------
gila should be rested because he played aLOTTTT!!! .... sheva was out for a while and i dont think he is tired at all, this is no walkover, not having sheva there might be critical
the way alot of u are talking here makes one think that we already have the 3 points!
Shevchenko7
26-11-2005, 06:18
nah more like this:
--------------dida---------------
simic-----stam-----nesta-----janku
----gattuso----pirlo------serginho
-------------rui costa-------------
---------gila------vieri------------
Good lineup overall, but I'd put Sheva in for Vieri...
No room for complacency.
ye, we need sheva , there is no room for jokes in here, we are 5 points behind. thius could be the lineup......
..............dida.............
..simic..stam...nesta...serginho
...............vogel............
.....seedorf.......marek
................rui.....
.......sheva.....pippo..........
shevagol_7
26-11-2005, 14:22
Here is the official line-up: Dida; Stam, Nesta, Maldini, Serginho; Gattuso, Pirlo, Seedorf; Rui Costa; Shevchenko, Gilardino
Looks like no-ones getting a rest today except those who are injured. I'd expect a total B-squad against Brescia Tuesday then.
Bosniaco
26-11-2005, 14:25
Carlo should give some rest to the players. CCCCcccccc
If Janku doesnt get a chance soon, Im gonna start shooting!!!!!
Goooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
Pirlo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
where are you watching it?
MilanPerSempre
26-11-2005, 14:41
Any streams for this game?
But i know it was a freekick... similar to the one against Udinese
According to eurosport Janku is in the starting line up
There are some here:
http://footballtvs.com/
Dont work for me, let me know if they do for you
no it will not work for me as well... unlucky
thanks anyway
Yes, we are infront! Pirlo is master, was is a gaol from a setpiece?
Forza Milan
MilanPerSempre
26-11-2005, 14:55
There are some here:
http://footballtvs.com/
Dont work for me, let me know if they do for you
No, doesn't work... but thx anyway!
Hey guys. The game appears to be on 'Shangai GSports'. It's not a great feed though.
sop://211.152.42.231:3917/official/shanghaiGsports
It does not work for me...
Do you have SopCast?
http://www.sopcast.org/
Gila just tried to chip the goalie...but a little bit too high. :(
which link I should click on?
In the Sopcast menu? Sport/Shanghai GSports. It should then pop up in Media Player.
Which sopcast download is it Nammy?
I downloaded the lastest SopCast (the one at the top).
MilanPerSempre
26-11-2005, 15:11
For all the people who have pplive on their computer.... SDTV-SPORTS broadcasts the game. Maybe the same channel as NaMMY talks about.
pplive://pp1.pplive.com:8000/tracke...plive.com:8000
Hope it works
Thanks guys, I think the second one may be a bit quicker
Half time. Milan 1-0 Lecce.
this is the best stream iv seen yet, it hasnt stopped to buffer once yet
the second one on pp stream, its unreal. Itlike watching it on a proper tv
the fisr one is very slowly... how can I switch on the second one... what should I do first?
you need to download pplive
http://www3.pplive.com/english/
choose from the menu on the left where it says pplive 1.0.7, save it and run it
Where should I click on http://www.pplive.com/source.shtml site to start?
What a joke of a substitution, serghios hurt so Billy comes on!!! Where the hell is Janku!!!!
Janku is on the bench, but Billy comes on for Sergio
hitmannq8
26-11-2005, 15:56
I HATE THIS FKIIIIIIIING ANCELOTTI HOW STUPID cAN HE FKING GET? I SWEAR TO GOD HES SO STUPID WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH HIM? WHY IS THE TEAM NOT ATTACKING ANY MORE? WHY IS HE NOT USING ROTATION? WHY IS HE NOT USING HIS SUBS? WHAT A FKING STUPID IDIOT
so obious the lecce goal was coming.. we just sat back and waiting for them.. if we dont win the 3 points, this game will be remembered more than most when he gets sacked
So now the defence is: Stam, Nesta, Maldini, Billy.
Hmm.. please tell me Paolo is on the left!!
I have to agree the choice of substitutes is very odd:
9 Filippo Inzaghi
18 M. Jankulovski
5 A. Costacurta
17 Dario Simic
32 Christian Vieri
14 Johann Vogel
16 Zeljko Kalac
Surely not both Billy and Simic are needed on the bench, or Gila and Vieri? Wht does he never put a youth player on the bench?? Even against a relatively weak team?
Its getting harder and harder to defend carlo :finger:
Great, Lecce equalise! :(
Its getting harder and harder to defend carlo :finger:hey... what should I do when I run that program? :dontkn:
MilanPerSempre
26-11-2005, 16:03
Konan Scores? WTF? :mad:
yup, 1-1 :( :(
Its getting harder and harder to defend carlo :finger:
now harder still at 1-1!! :w209:
hitmannq8
26-11-2005, 16:05
why the hell is seedorf still on? he was terrible since minute 1.. WHY IS ANCELOTTI STUPID?
hey... what should I do when I run that program? :dontkn:
have you run the program, there should be a P symbol in your system tray, if so go to http://www3.pplive.com/english/ again and go to program list and select the channel. Forgot the name now.
sometimes gatusso just cant tackle, bring on Janku FFS!!!!
hitmannq8
26-11-2005, 16:08
OH ANCELOTTI DECIDES TO PUT JANKuLOVSKI.. VERY NICE MOVE BUT FKING TOO LATE
maldini020
26-11-2005, 16:09
**** carletto!!!!!!!!!!!
Janku is on for Gattuso!!
see... i told u not to underestimate other teams, the way most people were talking was like we had the points already... its funny how u wantd to field and even weker squad
hah
Im sorry, but what the FVCK is Janku supposed to do in 10 minutes
Seriously, can someone explain to me why we buy players in the summer only for Carlo to leave them on the bench endlessly.
hitmannq8
26-11-2005, 16:16
i have never ever seen worse character from players in a football game in my life.. this is DISGUSTING.. we could have won 5-0 by 1st half but our players were just too lazy and overall ANCELOTTI.. THIS IS HIS FAULT.. i cant believe it
god i hate inzaghi... gila shouldve stayd and janku should be playing more.. wtf!
Seriously, can someone explain to me why we buy players in the summer only for Carlo to leave them on the bench endlessly.
Janku's been mysteriously absent from even the bench recently
A great performance against Juve, Carlo kept the same side against PSV, we paid for it. Great performance against Fener, same side apart from an available Stam and we are paying for it again. When eill he learn to mix it up!!
By the way Janku, with a fantastic effort. Inches away.
Janku's been mysteriously absent from even the bench recently
Remember Dharosso? Remember Colocini who actually came into our squad only to never get a chance!
hitmannq8
26-11-2005, 16:23
GOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAL LAST 10 SECOOOOOOOOONDS INZAaaaaaaghiiiiiiiiiii
I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE YOU PIIIIIIPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I LOVEEEEEEEEEEEE YOU PIPPPPPPPPPPPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
GOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!! INZAGHIIII ...for a sec i like him!!!
waaaaaaaaawawwwWOWOWOAAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I LOVE THIS GAMEEE!!!!!!!!!!!
FORZA MILAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!
Pippo just saved Carlos sorry ass!!!!
Why can't we do things the easy way? Just a few more weeks until the transfer window opens.
OLE OLE OLE OLE OLE EOLELE epaAAJAJAJAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHA WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!
... lets make a deal.. never underestimate an opponent! ad im talking about us, because i felt we were gonna lose points or suffer just by the way everyone said we will win this easily!
phew!!!
hitmannq8
26-11-2005, 16:28
wooooooooooow EVERY ONE IN MY FLOOR CAME COMPLAINING FOR HOW LOUD I SHOUTED !!! i LOVE PIPPO .. OK ITS RIGHT TO CELEBRATE ..
BUT .. it is 100% wrong to IGNORE WHAT THIS STUPID IDIOT ANCELOTTI DID.. we can not forget this game.. I REALLY REALLY REALLY hope berlusconi FUKS HIM UP soon..he talked so much about rotation and yet DID NOT DO ONE CHANGE.. he infact even didnt play with SIMIC who had a good game.. HE DID NOT REMOVE SEEDORF!! who was SHIIIIT from minute 1.. he left Marek to the last 5 minutes and when he came on HE WAS SO DANGEROUS.. Gilardino? Not much to say.. he missed 3 one on ones, but still good for him to be in those positions..
the team ALL needs to be criticised as we just sat back and waited for them to score in 2nd half.. Rui played well, Sheva was good too.. Pirlo also was good.. WE WERE ALL GOOD EXCEPT THIS STUPID IDIOT ANCELOTTI!!! I CANT BELIEVE HIM!! why didnt he do the substitutions earlier to kill the game off? Why does he make us suffer? ofcourse its like im on ecstasy now for what Pippo just did but still, we shouldnt have been in this position AGAINST LECCE.. AT HOME!!!! FKING ANCELoTTI
Milan3869
26-11-2005, 16:28
OLE OLE OLE OLE OLE EOLELE epaAAJAJAJAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHA WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!
... lets make a deal.. never underestimate an opponent! ad im talking about us, because i felt we were gonna lose points or suffer just by the way everyone said we will win this easily!
phew!!!
we didnt underestimate anyone....gilardino missed like three goals....this game should have been 4-1.
super pippo saved us!!!
why people keep losing hope? i never stop hoping we will win. we played like crap and without purpose. poor control, poor passing, i don't know what is wrong with the team but they really played very badly, can't even string a few passes together.
inzaghi score a nice goal, pirlo nice assist and freekick.
Milan3869
26-11-2005, 16:31
i agree simic should have started, and what about putting costacurta for serginho?!? although i support ancelloti, that was just a stupid thing to do. he should have gone with janku, he had a solid game.
anyways im glad we came up with the 3 points. god i would have hated if we trailed juve by 7 points. thanks super pippo!!!
forza milan!!!
MilanPerSempre
26-11-2005, 16:33
OLE OLE OLE OLE OLE EOLELE epaAAJAJAJAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHA WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!
... lets make a deal.. never underestimate an opponent! ad im talking about us, because i felt we were gonna lose points or suffer just by the way everyone said we will win this easily!
phew!!!
And you please never say anymore that you hate Pippo when he comes in for Gila!
we are so dam lucky to win this. gila was tired from so many games and never shud hav played. simic shud hav played after istanbul. seedorf shud hav been replaced by marek sooner. whatever though... BRAVO PIPPO!!!!!
Bosniaco
26-11-2005, 16:34
Carlo sucked with his Sub and Costacurta.
hitmannq8
26-11-2005, 16:35
DAMN IFEEL HAPPY.. but still, Ancelotti needs to be put straight, somebody needs to tell him HES STUPID and he NEEDS to use the substitutions.. Why on earth did we spend 8 million on Jankulovski just to leave him on the bench? He is an outstanding player.. Why do we have Vieri and Pippo? Why didnt we use them earlier? Ok maybe not Vieri but Pippo seems to always come on and save us.. Pippo needs to start more often he is always dangerous..
I really hope someone slams Ancelotti in the press soon..
wooooooooooow EVERY ONE IN MY FLOOR CAME COMPLAINING FOR HOW LOUD I SHOUTED !!! i LOVE PIPPO .. OK ITS RIGHT TO CELEBRATE ..
BUT .. it is 100% wrong to IGNORE WHAT THIS STUPID IDIOT ANCELOTTI DID.. we can not forget this game.. I REALLY REALLY REALLY hope berlusconi FUKS HIM UP soon..he talked so much about rotation and yet DID NOT DO ONE CHANGE.. he infact even didnt play with SIMIC who had a good game.. HE DID NOT REMOVE SEEDORF!! who was SHIIIIT from minute 1.. he left Marek to the last 5 minutes and when he came on HE WAS SO DANGEROUS.. Gilardino? Not much to say.. he missed 3 one on ones, but still good for him to be in those positions..
the team ALL needs to be criticised as we just sat back and waited for them to score in 2nd half.. Rui played well, Sheva was good too.. Pirlo also was good.. WE WERE ALL GOOD EXCEPT THIS STUPID IDIOT ANCELOTTI!!! I CANT BELIEVE HIM!! why didnt he do the substitutions earlier to kill the game off? Why does he make us suffer? ofcourse its like im on ecstasy now for what Pippo just did but still, we shouldnt have been in this position AGAINST LECCE.. AT HOME!!!! FKING ANCELoTTI
agree on all points. seedorf tries to be too crafty at times, trying to do all these amazing one-touch flick ons when he should just play normally. but try to losen up a bit. we di just win the game in the 94th minute, u sound like the opposite has happened.
and u know what, he subbed INzaghi in and nobody is giving him credit. Very nice ladies and gentleman.
I don't think the sub for Costacurta is a right move, however. Jan could have come in instead.
and u know what, he subbed INzaghi in and nobody is giving him credit. Very nice ladies and gentleman.
I don't think the sub for Costacurta is a right move, however. Jan could have come in instead.
he should have subbed inzaghi in for gila at halftime. gila was having a horrible game and you could tell his confidence was taking a beating. i hope he comes back to scor again next game.
shevagol_7
26-11-2005, 16:38
I am very unhappy with the way played today despite winning in the end. As much as I like Gilardino some of the chances he missed today were criminal. I think we didn't take Leece seriously enough. A little too nonchalant for my liking ala Istanbul. If we had lost today in all honesty we would have had nothing to complain about we dominated Leece for all of the first half had a boat load of chances and only managed to score one.
We are still making the same mistakes in defence. We are so hesitant when crosses come in. Dida could have claimed both the initial cross and the header across. We really need to work on this because really good teams will exploit this much more than Leece did today.
I think Inzaghi really merits a starting place next to Shevchenko, for now at least. Every game he's played in, with the exception of the Juve game, he played well. When he came on he was running all out, looking to win balls, winning headers, holding the ball off well for others and took the only chance he got. I honestly can't ask from more from him. He is SuperPippo once again.
hitmannq8
26-11-2005, 16:39
agree on all points. seedorf tries to be too crafty at times, trying to do all these amazing one-touch flick ons when he should just play normally. but try to losen up a bit. we di just win the game in the 94th minute, u sound like the opposite has happened.
You see thats the problem bro.. because we won this game, everyone will ignore the problems that we suffered.. that cant be ignored! we must learn from our mistakes!
And you please never say anymore that you hate Pippo when he comes in for Gila!
no... i never liked pippo and never will, i just dont like his style, but that doesnt mean im not thankful for him because he saved us on many occasions, its just that he either plays piss poor or he plays piss poor and scores when we need it the most ... he gives me heart attacks!
for the record i said gila should be rested for inzaghi
You see thats the problem bro.. because we won this game, everyone will ignore the problems that we suffered.. that cant be ignored! we must learn from our mistakes!
nobody should ignore what just happened. unfortunately everyone will probably be too ecstatic to care.
You see thats the problem bro.. because we won this game, everyone will ignore the problems that we suffered.. that cant be ignored! we must learn from our mistakes!
now thats true!
sheva-gila
26-11-2005, 16:53
yeah there is nothing to say about this game just thanks god for victory
pippo its our hero as ussually but i dont know whats going on with gila he had 3chance100% goal but he miss him.
thanks god again.
zlatanov
26-11-2005, 16:57
Everything I wanted to say was already mentioned, but I still need to express my utter disapproval of playing one and the same players when games come in 2-3 days apart. A number of players that played tonight should have never come in on the pitch but stay on the bench just in case.
One other thing that bugged me was the total lack of professionalism we showed in the first half when we could have scored 3-4 more goals. Instead, we ended up wasting them with a light hand and that didn't even seem to bother us for we were playing with our egos and NOT our hearts - the players were too much into falling in love with thier own slick passing and forgot what that game was all about, and namely 3 points, nothing else besides that.
I just hope that people at Milanello will stop celebrating for a moment and look back with sober heads and learn from the countless of unforgivable mistakes committed today.
Forza Milaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan !!!
i agree with zlatanov, the main difference between us and juve is that when juve score a goal, they finish the game off by defending properly or by scoring against the run of play and from there they kill the opponent, we are more flaired, better looking team, its just that if its not a big team like juve or whoever were playing, we just love wasting chances. i believe that efficiency is the key to everything and we lack that in a way. kill the game off for god sake!!
we played amazing todai!!! y r u guys critisizing our players?? in the last two games we have had like 10 1 on 1s. If gila had scored on two of those occasions, wud every1 here still b pissed about the way we played? we played good and we created tons of chances, we jus didn finish them off. The onli ppl to blame for this r sheva n mainly gila. I believe ancelotti's onli mistake todai wuz fielding sheva n gila after the cl game. they shud have been rested n vieri-pippo shuda played.Pirlo was MOM todai, creating chances n scoring goals. Rui costa played pretty good, he just needs to shoot better. n Pippo saved the dai!! i dun like him but am very thankful that he alwais saves our asses. Forza Milan!!!!!!!!!!
Fvckin sh!te... again and again... faint rival - we are hopeless... strong [imortant match] rival - we are invincible... what the fvck... ans I can name the fvck... he is on our bench. Great too see that Pippo saved his butt. But he is not responsible of saving butts does he...god i hate inzaghi... gila shouldve stayd and janku should be playing more.. wtf!GOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!! INZAGHIIII ...for a sec i like him!!!I love this stuff...
even though I never was a Pippo fan especially when he played for gobbi [I used to hate him], now I can not say on him such words... and it sound ridiculous when I hear them... and after a few minutes... he becomes hero again... queer behaviour.
MadeMashin
26-11-2005, 17:57
lol wow we played soo shiit, i think my team wouldve beat lecce... i wont be surprised to see gilardino sittin on the bench next game with inzaghi playing
despite pirlo scoring and assisting, i think he played ****, most of the interceptions were his and seedorfs fault
Fvckin sh!te... again and again... faint rival - we are hopeless... strong [imortant match] rival - we are invincible... what the fvck... ans I can name the fvck... he is on our bench. Great too see that Pippo saved his butt. But he is not responsible of saving butts does he...I love this stuff...
even though I never was a Pippo fan especially when he played for gobbi [I used to hate him], now I can not say on him such words... and it sound ridiculous when I hear them... and after a few minutes... he becomes hero again... queer behaviour.
queer?! .. i hope ur joking on this aswell!
... u quoted those 2 posts by me, but somehow u managed to forget this one
no... i never liked pippo and never will, i just dont like his style, but that doesnt mean im not thankful for him because he saved us on many occasions, its just that he either plays piss poor or he plays piss poor and scores when we need it the most ... he gives me heart attacks!
i do not like inzaghi, i never will! he isnt the type of player i would look to have in my team. but in terms of clinical, he somehow, someway manages to always score just when we need it, which is both good and not good, good because we bag the points, not good because this only makes milanistas and the board want to keep him here despite the fact that he can go the whole 89 mins wasting easy chances and being frstrating by ruining good plays.
i respect what he acheived, i just dont like him, how is that queer?
lol wow we played soo shiit, i think my team wouldve beat lecce... i wont be surprised to see gilardino sittin on the bench next game with inzaghi playing
despite pirlo scoring and assisting, i think he played ****, most of the interceptions were his and seedorfs fault
wooowwww.... so gila has a bad game and now he deserves to be benched? ... how many times has inzaghi been useless (if not a disadvantage) for us?
gila has been scoring like crazy the last month and it would be really stupid to bench him just because of today, sheva wasnt good either, should he be benched?! the right thing to do was to rest gila for the next 2 matches since hes been playing alot, and it might be just that, he was tired today!
MadeMashin
26-11-2005, 18:07
:v46: walak that was a joke...lol ahbaloun
how is that queer?queer is how talk about his - I hate him - I like him... and between these posts is a very short period of time... that's queer
we played amazing todai!!! y r u guys critisizing our players?? in the last two games we have had like 10 1 on 1s. If gila had scored on two of those occasions, wud every1 here still b pissed about the way we played? we played good and we created tons of chances, we jus didn finish them off. The onli ppl to blame for this r sheva n mainly gila. I believe ancelotti's onli mistake todai wuz fielding sheva n gila after the cl game. they shud have been rested n vieri-pippo shuda played.Pirlo was MOM todai, creating chances n scoring goals. Rui costa played pretty good, he just needs to shoot better. n Pippo saved the dai!! i dun like him but am very thankful that he alwais saves our asses. Forza Milan!!!!!!!!!!
I think you're speaking a lot of sense.
The Lecce keeper was a god today, we should be thankful we got 2 past him. Lecce may have lost in the last minute but they won't feel hard done by, we where all over them.
queer is how talk about his - I hate him - I like him... and between these posts is a very short period of time... that's queer
what about i dont like him but i respect him, is that queer?
walak that was a joke...lol ahbaloun
oh sorry then, bas still it goes out to those who would think that way :D
whats ur name? im mohammad for the record, by the way do u go to mahjoob.com ??? u should, or atleast the sports section!
devoted_dm
26-11-2005, 18:41
For the most part I thought we played an excellent game today, though the players seemed to tire in the second half, which affected our passing. The strikers missed some HUGE opportunities to score, but than God, in the end it didn't matter. Still, if Gila and Sheva had done their job tonight, we wouldn't have been sitting on the edge of our seats towards the end of the game.
But all in all, I'm happy with what I saw. We were absolutely dominant in the first half, and we won the game quite deservedly. What I can't believe though, is that Billy was brought on for Serginho. The man simply lacks the quality we need. I would much rather have seen Janku take the left back position, or Simic on for Serginho, Maldini taking the left back position and moving Stam into the central position. Carlo makes some odd choices now and then...
Anyway, three cheers for Pippo!! :firedev:
triniman
26-11-2005, 18:55
wooooooooooow EVERY ONE IN MY FLOOR CAME COMPLAINING FOR HOW LOUD I SHOUTED !!! i LOVE PIPPO .. OK ITS RIGHT TO CELEBRATE ..
BUT .. it is 100% wrong to IGNORE WHAT THIS STUPID IDIOT ANCELOTTI DID.. we can not forget this game.. I REALLY REALLY REALLY hope berlusconi FUKS HIM UP soon..he talked so much about rotation and yet DID NOT DO ONE CHANGE.. he infact even didnt play with SIMIC who had a good game.. HE DID NOT REMOVE SEEDORF!! who was SHIIIIT from minute 1.. he left Marek to the last 5 minutes and when he came on HE WAS SO DANGEROUS.. Gilardino? Not much to say.. he missed 3 one on ones, but still good for him to be in those positions..
the team ALL needs to be criticised as we just sat back and waited for them to score in 2nd half.. Rui played well, Sheva was good too.. Pirlo also was good.. WE WERE ALL GOOD EXCEPT THIS STUPID IDIOT ANCELOTTI!!! I CANT BELIEVE HIM!! why didnt he do the substitutions earlier to kill the game off? Why does he make us suffer? ofcourse its like im on ecstasy now for what Pippo just did but still, we shouldnt have been in this position AGAINST LECCE.. AT HOME!!!! FKING ANCELoTTI
LOL...are you for real....why is it that after every game that is not a 5-0 score line for us or something of that nature...you tend to complain.....he's my suggestion to you...put your complaint in your signature...that way you will say yourself the time of retyping ....nothing seems to please any of you in here these days.....it's always i hate this person or this coach or this or that...then when we win it's "I love you ....."
Probably the most set of fickel supporters or club has......we hate them one day and love them the next.....we win the serie A...carlo is a god sent....we come second and make it to the final of the CL, now carlo does not deserve to be a milan coach....fickel i say!!!.....with supporters like some of you, who needs enemies
hitmannq8
26-11-2005, 19:13
triniman, you're the type of person who, when we lose the champions league final the way we did, you say.. oh hard luck guys.. im sure we played well but we were unlucky.. lets do it next year.. then it happens again next year.. ohhh we are so unlucky luck is not our side.. we can do it next year.. FFS your the one who needs to look at himself in shame, your just like an inter fan.. you recognize the mistakes, but still decide to ignore them
If you really think that Carlo is not stupid for that starting eleven, or for doing better subs or at better times, then you are wrong. We must try to always improve in our mistakes
triniman, you're the type of person who, when we lose the champions league final the way we did, you say.. oh hard luck guys.. im sure we played well but we were unlucky.. lets do it next year.. then it happens again next year.. ohhh we are so unlucky luck is not our side.. we can do it next year.. FFS your the one who needs to look at himself in shame, your just like an inter fan.. you recognize the mistakes, but still decide to ignore them
If you really think that Carlo is not stupid for that starting eleven, or for doing better subs or at better times, then you are wrong. We must try to always improve in our mistakes
no, trini doesnt complain the way u do man...excuse my french but all u do is b*tch around!... everyone seems to dislike ur style, what makes u think its right to bash almost anyone that isnt perfect, ur no army general or something, and what makes u think u have the right to call some1 an inter fan, bcuz as far as i know, inter fans whine just about as much as u do.
its funny come to think of it.... a b*tchy general!
I REALLY cant believe some people are still defendeing Carlo!!! This man is ruining players atitutes and he is total coward and has no idea of running big teams! If this today was a good coaching, and if this is the coach milan deserves, than I really dont know what to say!!! CArlo is a fuking idiot! Costacurta in when we are 1-0 up against Lecce??????????????????????????????????? he is destroing players confidence and needs to be fired , sooner the better!! no scudetto fir us this year, Carlo will still say we did ok, he is relaxed..... costacurta is fine , we dont need anyone..... we need fresh and brave coach, a dictator, a real person ,not some lazy senile coward! and I stand behind my words untill tne end. this is dusgusting temperament from our players, horrible!
zlatanov
26-11-2005, 22:01
I REALLY cant believe some people are still defendeing Carlo!!! This man is ruining players atitutes and he is total coward and has no idea of running big teams! If this today was a good coaching, and if this is the coach milan deserves, than I really dont know what to say!!! CArlo is a fuking idiot! Costacurta in when we are 1-0 up against Lecce??????????????????????????????????? he is destroing players confidence and needs to be fired , sooner the better!! no scudetto fir us this year, Carlo will still say we did ok, he is relaxed..... costacurta is fine , we dont need anyone..... we need fresh and brave coach, a dictator, a real person ,not some lazy senile coward! and I stand behind my words untill tne end. this is dusgusting temperament from our players, horrible!
give it a break will you? It's one thing to criticize but you and some other people are really getting this out of hand with you constant whining and biatching.
And when some TV-stuck bonehead with amateurish view on how a team chould be coached sees himself as the source of truth, now that's what I call "a fuking idiot".
Hasan Rossonero
26-11-2005, 22:15
I hope you did not mean to insult me.
no I did not. Just Roy Keane.
Hasan Rossonero
26-11-2005, 22:17
give it a break will you? It's one thing to criticize but you and some other people are really getting this out of hand with you constant whining and biatching.
And when some TV-stuck bonehead with amateurish view on how a team chould be coached sees himself as the source of truth, now that's what I call "a fuking idiot".
People need to see both the positives and negatives.
Today we were profligate but gutsy. Sometimes that does happen. However, putting things in a bigger picture- we have won 9 games out of the last 11 I think (CL and Serie A). How can one send Carlo to the gallows?
Get a grip guys...
triniman, you're the type of person who, when we lose the champions league final the way we did, you say.. oh hard luck guys.. im sure we played well but we were unlucky.. lets do it next year.. then it happens again next year.. ohhh we are so unlucky luck is not our side.. we can do it next year.. FFS your the one who needs to look at himself in shame, your just like an inter fan.. you recognize the mistakes, but still decide to ignore them
If you really think that Carlo is not stupid for that starting eleven, or for doing better subs or at better times, then you are wrong. We must try to always improve in our mistakes
Don't be daft man, that is the most ignorant, ill-conceived, totally erroneous statement I think I heard for years. Granted you verbalise your emotions impulsively, and there is no doubt that you are passionate about the topic at hand here...but brash statement often serve to emphasise your benightedness. So chill...breathe...relax :2dri: and analyse objectively. triniman is a marvellous supporter, one who for many years has demonstrated his love for the club we ALL adore, so to compare him to an Inter fan is asinine...but we'll overlook that as a comment made in the heat of the moment.
I don't think Carlo need explain his decisions to us, I think had he followed some of our advice we would have got beat!
for me I would field a 2nd string side.
Simic -- Stam - Nesta -- Serginho
Gattuso -- Vogel -- Jankulovski
--------- Rui Costa ------------- (Carlo confirmed he will start)
---- Vieri (sry all) -- Pippo ------
A team without Pirlo today would not only have lacked the opening goal, but would surely have been starved of quality creativity. At least Carlo went into the game with the right attitude, avoiding the often perilous habit of underestimating teams...something we have been guilty on many occasion. There are many factors that may change the course of a game, perhaps on another day (like last Wednesday) we would bury more chances. It is extremely difficult to maintain the same energy day-in, day-out, particularly after such an emotionally draining away game in Istanbul.
Rotation is not as easy as one may want to believe. Like it or not, players tend to build stronger bonds with certain individuals, and it takes time to develop that. Player like Rui Costa, who can slip in seamlessly in place of Kaka, has been around a while and has the trust and respect of all those around. Taking nothing away from Jankulovski, he has been injured and is still a fresh face, but he cannot command the same credence and inspire confidence as Gattuso, who is hailed as our heart.
This game was vital, every game is from now till we overturn the gap with Juve. Carlo has the most tumultuous job in football, a demanding public and an even more critical boss (Silvio). I think what we tend to forget is with so much at stake, I doubt he would make any decision lightly. Milan is his life, he has succeeded with us proving his pedigree...so don't trash him as if he is stupid or unaware of certain elements. I'm sure he knows a whole lot more than us given he spends 8-12 hours a day with the boys and goes home to review tapes of games and training sessions. We must learn from our mistakes, but we must not shoot them every time the commit one.
Haha...and in the course of preparing the above post, other messages are posted that just scream idiocy...Unfortunately triniman is right...fickel, superficial, treacherous...unfaithful
Pablo, you make some good points. Jankulovski is new and has been injured, but the fact that hes not even selected in the squad is ridiculous. He may not be ahead of Seedorf or Rino in the midfield, but he at least deserves the chance to to show what he is capable of. Not being included for the Fenerbahce game and 10 minutes against Lecce is an insult to a player of his quality. Ancelotti, in his time at Milan has made some legendary tactical decisions (Playing Rui on the right wing against Juve to limit nedved a couple of seasons ago and bringing on Serghinio as leftback against Inter last season). Choosing Billy ahead of Janku is definately not one of them though.
Hasan Rossonero, there were many positives. It was actually a great performance and a score of 4-0 wouldnt have been an exageration. Nobosy, can blaime the manager for the lack of clinical finishing though. Pirlo, as ever was a joy to watch. His all round game is getting better and better, his defending, his running through players and his freekicks too. There isnt a player in the world who I look forward to watching more than Pirlo. :5ok:
triniman
27-11-2005, 01:08
triniman, you're the type of person who, when we lose the champions league final the way we did, you say.. oh hard luck guys.. im sure we played well but we were unlucky.. lets do it next year.. then it happens again next year.. ohhh we are so unlucky luck is not our side.. we can do it next year.. FFS your the one who needs to look at himself in shame, your just like an inter fan.. you recognize the mistakes, but still decide to ignore them
If you really think that Carlo is not stupid for that starting eleven, or for doing better subs or at better times, then you are wrong. We must try to always improve in our mistakes
hahahahahaha........yeah that's me....an inter fan in disguise!!!!
The number of superlatives i could use to tell you how i feel about that last post in numerous...but i'll try to sum it up as best i could.....
The difference between us my dear friend is the fact that i look at the bigger picture than from game to game.......a supporter does what his name suggests.....suppoort!!....through thick and thin ....yes you can disagree with certain points of a team...but to change views more than one changes underwear is called being fickel, not supportive.
As a mod i really should just ignore your idiotic comments and raise above the occassion....but i'm a fan first and mod after so you got to feel some stick for your comment.
People like you i try to turn a deaf ear on.....becuase you would shake someone's hand with one hand and stab them in the back with the other....when we had our great run last year...everyone was on the carlos bandwaggon....bar a few....then we lost the league and CL in one month...now everyone wants his head on a platter.......do i defend him...yes i do...becuase this is the same person who helped save us from ourselves...installed a different system within the team and made players believe again.....yeah he has his faults...but i see more good than bad.....if things get bad...then sure i would say we probably need a change...but not in the middle of a season and not when we are playing relatively well.......
I could go on and on with this ...but i got to go out.....so let me just ask you this one question...where where u 8 years ago when we never placed above 9th place ????+
MilanPerSempre
27-11-2005, 01:10
I think that Carlo Ancelotti should get some more respect of some of you. Do you guys really think that man is stupid? Ok, I also thought that Jankulovski would substitute Serginho and I was surprised that Billy came on the pitch instead.... but I don't wanna blame Carlo for that! I believe that he knows very good what he does during a game! After all, we don't know what happens on the training fields of Milanello and so on. (But Ancelotti does!) So, for us it's easy to make a formation before a game. It's not like a manager game on our pc guys! This is reality! It's not so easy!
And let's be honest.... if Ancelotti would be such a bad coach as many of you say here, would he have reached 2 Champions League finals in 3 years then? Would he have won the Scudetto two seasons ago??? I don't think so! Let just do that man his job! He really knows what he is doing!
and another thing.. u and mrki both say how ancelotti is always positive and that hes never hard on his players, but did it ever occur to u that by being hard one if not more of our star players might get in an argument and decide to leave? would u like that?! havent u noticed that unlike other clubs, we dont have so many problems going on between our players, infact alot of our new players settle in so quickly because we have a peaceful environment that cannot be found elsewhere. remember when carlo and sheva had this so called argument? what if carlo was a hard ass? what would u do if sheva left??? god i can only imagine the biatching!!! it seems that whatever carlo does u will find a way to critisize him. yes he makes mistakes, but who doesnt? who would u rather have instead? capello?? havent u noticed that almost everytime the 2 meet carlo ends up the winner?! mourinho? lets see him last here as mch as carlo does, lets see get along with berlusconi, mourinho is a tactical coach whos moto is my way or the highway and if he feels playing a lone striker upfront is the best solution and silvio biatches about him playing 2 the way u do, u really think mourinho would obey him?? ... who else is out there that could actually make our team 'better' performance wise?? some1 tactical, hmmmmm... benitez??? but hes happy at liverpool!!! ... anyone besides those 3 wont guarentee us playing better, while carlo already has built a good relationship with everyone and built a team that is 'immortal' that has won more titles than anyone else out there wether u like it or not! so im gonna ask u nicely, stop the biatching and give carlo the credit he deserves, we are not saying he doesnt make mistakes, and were not saying u cannot go crazy when u feel he does something stupid in your opinion because even i can get pissed off at him, all were asking is for u to mature and actually think before writing something bad about a man who has been more successfull than any coach out there over the last 3 years!
Ooooh a disagreement all over this board. Out of respect to everyone I will say this without laying names. I support the coach all the way and always hope for succes. To ask for him to be sacked at any juncture is to also wish for results far worse than a 3-2 loss to Fiorentina, a 4-0 vs Fenerbahce, and even a 2-1 win against Lecce. I dont think any fan here would want to wish for anything worse than this. How far are some of you fans willing to take this team down to in order to satisfy your reasoning to sack Carlo??? Calling for his sacking in order to prevent an unknown future is already taking a "defeatist" frame of thinking. Things need to get dismal for a coach to get sacked. Are you guys willing to accept this??? Seems like a bad gamble to me.
I see also too many reactionary behavior to the negatives and zero proaction to the positives. For example many were quick to criticize the the losses on the coach and give zero praises to the successes and wins. A bit disingenuous if you ask me. With the pressures coming from a big club as ours, we need someone who keep a level keel and a straight head. I see this in our current coach. We dont need the drama and soap opera antics that other clubs have nor do we need the reactionary depending on the "situation" kind of mentality dictating our club. It is a sure recipe for disaster and zero possibility for success. And as I will say for the umpteenth time, this Milan Fan will not allow such mentality to distract this team from reaching its goals.
red-black-love
27-11-2005, 05:45
i just have to say that this game was a rather big disappointment to me. i was expecting something like a.. 4-0 victory before half time after seeing the way our side was totally wasting chances... especially the one where there was about 4 attempts to score.. but it was still saved.
and we shouldnt have conceded.. that goal was far too easy for lecce.
but fortunately pippo saved our ass again!
i was cracking up while watching the match and was almost desperate when 90 minutes was up. at the 94th minute when pippo scored, i almost screamed the roof down..
pirlo's goal was a pretty one, i always loved free kicks that became goals!
the thing is that now i pray, pippo's injury is not serious.
forza pippo! :D
forza MILAN!
Inzaghi saved the day in the dying minutes. Our first half was fantastic, but we are not closing the games and scoring the KO goal. Its always the same story, a match like this juve would have won it 4-0 while we had to suffer till the end a dominated match.
Inzaghi saved the day in the dying minutes. Our first half was fantastic, but we are not closing the games and scoring the KO goal. Its always the same story, a match like this juve would have won it 4-0 while we had to suffer till the end a dominated match.
Ok. I'll agree with mostly what you are saying with us not being able to close out the game early. Of course a game does last for 90+ minutes no??? I think it is more accurate to say that we dont play the whole 90 min than to say we dont "close" it. And yes if we played the way we did, Juve would have definitely won a game vs us. But let us rewind a bit and ask ourselves... what was our result vs Juve a few weeks ago???
give it a break will you? It's one thing to criticize but you and some other people are really getting this out of hand with you constant whining and biatching.
And when some TV-stuck bonehead with amateurish view on how a team chould be coached sees himself as the source of truth, now that's what I call "a fuking idiot".
no, i will not give it a break! This is not constant whining, but a way to understand that this is not the best choice for Milan, even if the biggest idiot runs our team, you still stand behind him. Why? i dont know.... As I said before, if you think this is 100% of Milan, and that Carlo is doing job that is up to Milan standards, then we dont have anything to talk about. Except that I WILL NOT STAND you to call me " bonehead ", mybe you could learn something about great coaches and the way they make their team look agressive and confident, and then defend Carlos lame caracter.
what was our result vs Juve a few weeks ago???
Our result against Juve was a great preparation from Carlo, and yes, we were great in that game. Also against Fener, and when we do prepare well, we do play well becouse we have an extraordinaryteam. But Carlo prepares our team well every 4th game. Most of the times other coaches outclasss him and we look lost, he has no idea what to do. i dont want to have any ong arguments on this issue since this is milan-lecce thread, but you all know myoppinion on Carlo, and I cant believe you are still standing behind him. Billy was right, the man has no carisma.no power. he needs this...... :firedev:
I think that Carlo Ancelotti should get some more respect of some of you. Do you guys really think that man is stupid? Ok, I also thought that Jankulovski would substitute Serginho and I was surprised that Billy came on the pitch instead.... but I don't wanna blame Carlo for that! I believe that he knows very good what he does during a game! After all, we don't know what happens on the training fields of Milanello and so on. (But Ancelotti does!) So, for us it's easy to make a formation before a game. It's not like a manager game on our pc guys! This is reality! It's not so easy!
And let's be honest.... if Ancelotti would be such a bad coach as many of you say here, would he have reached 2 Champions League finals in 3 years then? Would he have won the Scudetto two seasons ago??? I don't think so! Let just do that man his job! He really knows what he is doing!
agreed. a lot of people seem to forgotten that we were not even regarded as a top team in europe before ancelotti came and turn things round. i guess these so called 'fans' are nothing more than those 'fair weather' friends, they only want to win. i, for one, even though doesn't agree with ancelotti's tactics sometimes fully support him, no matter what. he make the team play well and make the name "AC MILAN" famous once more in the europe arena.
a few years ago, i can't even see any people wearing ac milan jersey in my country where EPL is the main dish and serie A matches not even broadcasted. now the ac milan jersey is the most common one on the streets, what a turnaround! and we don't even get serie A matches on TV.
hahahahahaha........yeah that's me....an inter fan in disguise!!!!
The number of superlatives i could use to tell you how i feel about that last post in numerous...but i'll try to sum it up as best i could.....
The difference between us my dear friend is the fact that i look at the bigger picture than from game to game.......a supporter does what his name suggests.....suppoort!!....through thick and thin ....yes you can disagree with certain points of a team...but to change views more than one changes underwear is called being fickel, not supportive.
As a mod i really should just ignore your idiotic comments and raise above the occassion....but i'm a fan first and mod after so you got to feel some stick for your comment.
People like you i try to turn a deaf ear on.....becuase you would shake someone's hand with one hand and stab them in the back with the other....when we had our great run last year...everyone was on the carlos bandwaggon....bar a few....then we lost the league and CL in one month...now everyone wants his head on a platter.......do i defend him...yes i do...becuase this is the same person who helped save us from ourselves...installed a different system within the team and made players believe again.....yeah he has his faults...but i see more good than bad.....if things get bad...then sure i would say we probably need a change...but not in the middle of a season and not when we are playing relatively well.......
I could go on and on with this ...but i got to go out.....so let me just ask you this one question...where where u 8 years ago when we never placed above 9th place ????+
it may sound strange but i start supporting ac milan when we were the 10th and 11th in the league. those 2 years are the times when i start to like milan. :zany:
Our result against Juve was a great preparation from Carlo, and yes, we were great in that game. Also against Fener, and when we do prepare well, we do play well becouse we have an extraordinaryteam. But Carlo prepares our team well every 4th game. Most of the times other coaches outclasss him and we look lost, he has no idea what to do. i dont want to have any ong arguments on this issue since this is milan-lecce thread, but you all know myoppinion on Carlo, and I cant believe you are still standing behind him. Billy was right, the man has no carisma.no power. he needs this...... :firedev:
judging from the way everybody dislike you, you do realise you have no charisma, no power? so what make you think you got the right to say that about anyone? :hah2:
Our result against Juve was a great preparation from Carlo, and yes, we were great in that game. Also against Fener, and when we do prepare well, we do play well becouse we have an extraordinaryteam. But Carlo prepares our team well every 4th game. Most of the times other coaches outclasss him and we look lost, he has no idea what to do. i dont want to have any ong arguments on this issue since this is milan-lecce thread, but you all know myoppinion on Carlo, and I cant believe you are still standing behind him.
Yeah I still stand behind him. Other than criticize many of you have yet to give a realistic replacement. It might work well in the lala land of "Football Player Manager" or whatever the hell that computer game is called. Besides I have yet to hear a realistic replacement name out there from any of you pundits.
Billy was right, the man has no carisma.no power. he needs this...... :firedev:
You might want to at least take his comments in total context rather than narrowing it down to only one perspective. That particular quote may sound convenient to your case but that is not what he was at all talking about. He was not advocating the coaches sacking.
One question I pose to all of you...should Carlo get the sack, would he have any difficulty finding another job??
How many clubs are vying for his services? I can tell you two of the richest clubs in the world want him...its been all over the press. Arrigo Sacchi has not disguised his desire to reunite with his former pupil.
What does that say about the man? Is the whole world stupid? Or the fans who wont support him?
Hasan Rossonero
27-11-2005, 09:57
hahahahahaha........yeah that's me....an inter fan in disguise!!!!
The number of superlatives i could use to tell you how i feel about that last post in numerous...but i'll try to sum it up as best i could.....
The difference between us my dear friend is the fact that i look at the bigger picture than from game to game.......a supporter does what his name suggests.....suppoort!!....through thick and thin ....yes you can disagree with certain points of a team...but to change views more than one changes underwear is called being fickel, not supportive.
As a mod i really should just ignore your idiotic comments and raise above the occassion....but i'm a fan first and mod after so you got to feel some stick for your comment.
People like you i try to turn a deaf ear on.....becuase you would shake someone's hand with one hand and stab them in the back with the other....when we had our great run last year...everyone was on the carlos bandwaggon....bar a few....then we lost the league and CL in one month...now everyone wants his head on a platter.......do i defend him...yes i do...becuase this is the same person who helped save us from ourselves...installed a different system within the team and made players believe again.....yeah he has his faults...but i see more good than bad.....if things get bad...then sure i would say we probably need a change...but not in the middle of a season and not when we are playing relatively well.......
I could go on and on with this ...but i got to go out.....so let me just ask you this one question...where where u 8 years ago when we never placed above 9th place ????+
This post is way over the top as was hitman's. The "stab in the back part" is exceptionally amusing.
I love the way we judge everyone's character on here by what they have to say about a football club.
maldini020
27-11-2005, 12:05
i'm very happy that we won, but ANCELLOTI must be sacked very soon!!!!!!!
how the hell can he play we the same line up as against fenerbahce(Stam of Simic)!!!??? super rotation carlo!!! that was the reason that we lost last year the CL and the scudetto! we played all the april and may ****ty football!! remember PSV-MILAN 3:1 or MILAN-JUVE 0:1!!! our players were so tired, because or " wonderful" carlo didn't rotate them!! and now this!!!!!!
i will ever support milan, and i love milan veryyyyy much, but i hope so do that carlo will be sacked very soon!! his time at milan has past!!!
Arildonardo
27-11-2005, 12:34
CArlo is a fuking idiot! Costacurta in when we are 1-0 up against Lecce??????????????????????????????????? he is destroing players confidence and needs to be fired , sooner the better!!
we need fresh and brave coach, a dictator, a real person ,not some lazy senile coward! and I stand behind my words untill tne end. this is dusgusting temperament from our players, horrible!
From the match-report:
"Serginho limped off with a bruised knee and made way for veteran Billy Costacurta in the left-back role."
So this means Ancelotti is a bad coach and an idiot for substituting an injured player? Hmmm... I don't know who's "the lazy senile coward" here... Do you mrki?
And if you ask me, our PROFESSIONAL players should approach any game with the right temperament no matter what coach is on the sidelines. If playing for a club like Milan isn't enough to give their all, they are the ones who should be somewhere else.
Our only problem against Lecce was that we didn't hit the back of the net as many times as we would have wanted to, and that our defence yet again made a terrible mistake to concede an unnecessary goal. This wasn't Ancelotti's fault, he can't take the blame for players making personal mistakes. I'm pretty damn sure he didn't tell them to miss chances and concede a goal...
I see no reason to sack Ancelotti, and especially not becuase of a game like this.
no I did not. Just Roy Keane.Even it does not make you no honour... :p231:
I'm glad that Milan won 2-1 lecce although it was so late goal
Milan lost alot of chances to score and Gila was top player to lose goal chances . Sheva lost some chances but we can't blame him since he
was so tired as he played and scored 4 goal in champion . Thanks God
we have Inzaghi that he save us from draw and his goal give us
3 important point. Pirlo did the best and scored very beautiful goal
Forza Milan
Forza Inzaghi - Pirlo + all other Milan players
Hasan Rossonero
27-11-2005, 17:00
Even it does not make you no honour... :p231:
I don't even know what the hell that sentence means :dontkn:
not a great match but atleast it's better than most of the so-called supporters here...
Why is everyone getting so worked up? I thought the whole point of a forum was to discuss. :sweeteye:
this is mad. we won. and even though it was a last minute goal we should have won by more. It's not carlo's fault if Gila dosn't stick the ball in the sodding net after having 4 or 5 chances.
I do think Janku should have came on though, that his a fault of his, he has his favourites and he is very scared of breaking out of using them. That's why when we dip into the market at january we must sign a quality defender, because carlo will leave them on the bench all the time otherwise. Can't really see him putting Felipe into the defense much.
So this means Ancelotti is a bad coach and an idiot for substituting an injured player? Hmmm... I don't know who's "the lazy senile coward" here... Do you mrki?
I see no reason to sack Ancelotti, and especially not becuase of a game like this.
to replace ,yes, but not with billy.
hitmannq8
27-11-2005, 21:49
triniman - i am a backstabber, just for expressing my thoughts that Carlo is wrong?
and what, if your a mod, im supposed to keep quiet while you try to impose your opinions over me?
this is getting a bit over the top.. true my reactions were alot over the top, they were all straight after the game.. and I really felt that Carlo did a stupid mistake and I still stand with what ive said.. I also do know that Carlo should not be sacked and is the ideal coach for Milan and the players we have, BUT, he has this habit of making these kinds of mistakes, that is what pisses me off.
I do not care how many trophies he won, how many golden balls or how many whatever, whatever you all say, you must at least be honest enough to agree that his starting eleven was very absurd, and unfair to the players that play less. And no, Jankulovski is not playing not because he is not injured, but Ancelotti thinks he can not do the job. Jankulovski played the whole 180 minutes in the recent World Cup qualifiers and excelled in one of those games. Everytime he comes on for Milan as a sub he impresses, I really cannot see why he could not have started Marek either as a left-back, or in Seedorf's role who as we all know can get tired very quickly.
It is true that Seedorf *WHEN IN FORM* is very influential and one of the best players, but, the problem is he is not always in form. Carlo's job is to select the players that have more energy for the game and can put it a better effort. Maybe im a terrible coach and have terrible opinions, but I dont think anyone here would have decided to start with both Sheva and Gila 3 days after a game that they got really tired in. And what about Maldini and Nesta? They have played most of our recent games, how come Carlo did not let Simic take RB role and give Stam a central role as they both have more energy?
Ofcourse by fielding the line up he did he will assure us the points, but you guys are not taking into account the other smaller things such as.. what if Sheva played a bit too many games recently, and is really tired, and tries to run a bit too much in this game, and ends up getting injured for 2 months? and please do not tell me this does not happen, because Sheva's recent injury was just because of this. Carlo should always try to go for the win, but maybe it is just better to go for it the EASY way by fielding players that are willing to run for the full 90 minutes..
I do not want Carlo sacked, I am just angry with his stupid errors that he makes more often than not. It will cost us very dearly sooner or later. I applaud his decision for playing a very tired Pirlo, but that has made Pirlo play probably his best game of the season. He was simply outstanding, and hopefully, by his choice of playing a tired Pirlo, this will have him in top form. But still, he must realise that this is not the only way to get a player in top form, as this might backfire and have the player ending up with an injury, or maybe just have the player underperforming in that game and costing us our 3 points.
You people always seem to back Milan soooooooo much. Instead of trying to recognize our weaknesses and trying to fix them, you just decide to ignore them and blame it on luck. Ofcourse I am a Milan fan and I support them through thick and thin, but getting angry at Ancelotti for making a stupid decision does not mean I am against him.
And mk18, please, you are the last one here to ask me to be more mature. And before you start criticising my decisions, maybe you should shut your mouth and take a look at your posts? You were saying I cant believe Carlo is getting PIPPO on for Gila.. Pippo cant do anything he will lose the game... Only a few minutes later Pippo gave you his answer. I hope you learn to respect other people's opinions. Everytime I express my opinion to someone, you come blasting at me like the little child you are.
MilanPerSempre
27-11-2005, 21:53
to replace ,yes, but not with billy.
But I'm sure Carlo will have had a good reason to substitute Serginho with Billy! As I told before in this thread.... Carlo knows his players very good, he knows what he can expect of them! He works together with his players every day!!! Who are you then to say that he needed to replace Serginho by Janku? Do you know Janku so good then? Do u know Billy so good then? I'm sure you only saw them playing on television or in the stadium.... just like all of us!
Giovanni
28-11-2005, 03:30
Do you think we could get a better coach than Carlo? Carlo makes us playing amazingly, and don't forget we had an iron personality until some bad defeats made us lose some of our self confidence.
But Carlo's Milan is still a great Milan, on quality base second, maybe , only to Sacchi's Milan, as far as i remember.
Stop bashing Carlo, because you will understand his importance just the day he won't be there anymore, as usually happens in life as well.If Gila miss 3 chances what Carlo can do? He put Inzaghi inside , who solved the match, instead of , for ex. Vieri. Is this a mistake?
The point is this, IMHO: we rely on just a DM (Gattuso) and we could afford to do that with an iron defence, but as long as our defence will be that dodgy we should be a bit more careful, even if this means sacrifice a bit of the show. We just can't afford to play that way against aggressive and young teams, which play fast football; the defence would be too many times put on pressure.
Warro Bantan
28-11-2005, 11:57
Wow. All this for a game we won?
Well, we did leave it late, but I feel as if even posting my ratings is for nothing when I read all the posts previous to this.
The furor about Carlo is justified IMO, however, I think some of us are going a little crazy, and we are not even at the halfway point in the season!
Carlo, IMO was wrong for fielding a pretty unchanged side from the victory vs Fener in the week. This was my first thought when I saw the starting line up. However, most of the other teams that had played midweek, fielded similar lineups, even Chelsea, who had a no-name team to play on the weekend, and so did Juve, who had a newly promoted team to face...so..with a week off from UCL matches this week, the coaches (and can so many be wrong?) decided to field their strongest teams...
That being said, I believe that it would have been dangerous to make too many changes, yet dangerous to not make sufficient changes such that we run the risk of fielding tired players. So what does a coach do? If my inference from my reading on Millanelo is accurate, then it means that science determines the players who are inform, and fit, and the data is then given to Carlo. My assumption is that the players he fielded were the players the data said were fittest.
Scientific evaluation proved accurate to a point. Seedorf was not at his best, and I thoght that this is where Janku could have featured, and I would have rested Pirlo for Vogel! Good thing I am not the coach! Pirlo was involved in both goals, scoring one, and his header producing the second...while not being at his 100% best, IMO.
What our problem was in this game was a lack of finishing, for which, our big signing, Gila was to blame. Nerves? Overconfidence? Fatigue? Or a combination of them all?
I confess to missing most of the first half (power cut...thats life in the tropics though isnt it?)so hence another reason for my lack of player ratings this postmatch.
What I find startling, (yet, after being here so long, I really am not that startled) is the fact that though we won the game, through one of Carlo's subs, we are still calling for his head!
I for one will admit that I have questioned Carlo´s selection and substitution policy more than most, but at the end of the day, he is the one that has to answer as to why he played so and so, and why so and so didnt feature, not me. His job is on the line, not mine.
Its on his head, and trust me, it cannot be easy working under the scrutiny of Uncle Festor and Berlu.
The bottom line is we won the game, we beat Lecce, last gasp win doesnt equate to less points than a 4-0 thrashing. We won, three points in the bag, and pressure on Juve to beat Trevisio, who actually led for a few minutes of that game!
Suffice it to say that thankfully for the stomachs and mental state of several here, we have no midweek match, and the do or die vs Schalke is next week, so most have time to recover, relax, and think of more ways to sack Carlo...just make sure that you dont do as the Jamaican proverb says and: "Swap black dawg fi monkey"...ie exchange what you have for something worse ("Swap a black dog for a monkey" is the literal translation).
FORZA MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILAN and SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPER PIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIPO!!!!!
to replace ,yes, but not with billy.
actually come to think of it, why not billy??? we were winning, why not bring on a defender?? if we were drawing then janku should definatly have come on!
Carlo should always try to go for the win, but maybe it is just better to go for it the EASY way by fielding players that are willing to run for the full 90 minutes..
HAHA ... all i needed is this to ignore the thing usaid about me at the end of ur post, because here i realized what a stupid idiot im getting myself into trouble with! ... so, u want carlo to be replaced by a coach who would play player who ARE NOT willing to run for the full 90 minutes?? :haha: ... the funny thing is that u then call triniman an inter fan! :haha:
And mk18, please, you are the last one here to ask me to be more mature. And before you start criticising my decisions, maybe you should shut your mouth and take a look at your posts? You were saying I cant believe Carlo is getting PIPPO on for Gila.. Pippo cant do anything he will lose the game... Only a few minutes later Pippo gave you his answer. I hope you learn to respect other people's opinions. Everytime I express my opinion to someone, you come blasting at me like the little child you are.
1- wait, why do u think im the last one here to ask u to be more mature?
2- shut my mouth?? does that make u feel more powerfull :haha:....
3- ok, i admit pippo saved our ass, and if u read my previous posts ull c my opinon on him, he saved our ass alot, but its his style of play that i dont like, he has a great record of goals, hes a player i will remember when hes gone (inshallah) and i respect what he achieved, but i do not like his style, to me, when he comes on, i feel the same we i do when laursen or roque Jr. came on before?
4- i blast u because u deserve it, u talk soooo much **** and whats worse u think that it doesnt effect others, and all u do is whine and biatch,offcourse im gonna blast u, besides everyone one else does! yet u still think ur right... its funny, because were all milan fans like u, and most of us have been following the team longer than u.. i admit is was a bit like u (not as annoying though) before i realized how pathetic and stupid i sounded... i changed and started to act more maturelly, and everyone noticed that, and became better friends with almost everyone ... once u do that, then ill talk to u like a human being.
u know rae? ... yeah we used to hate each others guts, now i consider him one of my best friends on the forum! ... oh and mrki doesnt count, hes like u!
u need to change man!
hitmannq8
28-11-2005, 15:05
I need to change to have more friends on the forum? Friends like you? Is that how you make ur friends?
I really dont care if people like me or not, I just come here to express my opinion to fellow Milan supporters and to see what they think. I see this forum as the best place to express my anger at Milan players for doing something bad. FFS, forums are all about sharing your opinions with others. If you dont like my opinions or think they "affect" you, then dont read them. Im pretty sure there are others around here that agree with me, but I dont memorize the names of my friends on the boards unfortunately.
No one has asked me to mature here, people have asked me to be less negative. Remember this "Kil min yara el nas eb 3ain 6ab3a". Please dont judge me next time, and especially dont buzz in when I am having a conversation with other people. I see you saying so so so so many things that piss me off to others but I dont disagree/agree with ur opinion. I chose to ignore it.
Take zlatanov for example, I do not like him because he does not like my opinions and I dont like his, but, we both do not get into each others ways any more. If he sees my post, he might read it but will not answer, the same with me. I may not like him but he is mature and I respect that. Try to learn a thing or two from him.
savage_mau
28-11-2005, 15:50
We all here for Milan.......Cool down.......
i just cant help the whinning! .. sorry!
Well I have disagreed at some point or time in the past with all of you guys. Yet for the record I still respect you all as members here in MM. Let us not try to let the tempers dictate that. I dont mind particularly if tempers flare at all honestly. What I do care about is if we can let it go and not think of any member here in the worse way because of some argument. Some of my best friends I have in my life are the ones that I fight with quite a lot, yet in a flash second, it was if we never had a tussle. So I said what I said about my opinion. I hope you all respect it with no hard feelings, because in the next week.... Gee! We might agree on something.
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