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AC Milan president Berlusconi to make £15M Ibrahimovic bid
tribalfooball.com - July 18, 2006
AC Milan president Silvio Berlusconi is ready to back coach Carlo Ancelotti's judgment and move for Juventus striker Zlatan Ibrahimovic.
The Swede won't consider dropping into Serie B with Juve, but his poor form over the last 12 months has cooled the interest of several long-term suitors, including Chelsea and Real Madrid.
Reports last week stated Ibra had already agreed personal terms with Inter, but with patron Massimo Moratti targeting Fiorentina striker Luca Toni, Ancelotti is convinced now is the time to move for the striker.
Berlusconi is confident he can persuade the Turin giants to cash-in with a bid of £15 million - a year ago Juve wouldn't have considered selling the Swede for less than three times that amount.
"hope this is true, he is a gr8 player"
if this is a double post plz delete
he is one of the most skilled players in the world . yes he had a bad season,but in season 04/05 he was amazing.i think he can find that form in milan like pirlo did and seedorf after joining us from inter
Arildonardo
18-07-2006, 09:14
I wouldn't bet on this being true as it's been reported by tribalfootball.com. From what I understand Zlatan is on his way to Inter, and if he is not better than what he has shown the last year and in the World Cup for Sweden, then that's fine with me...
It was on calciomercato as well..
Kev Ryan
18-07-2006, 10:18
Tribal Football aren't a source I take seriously.
I'm not an Ibrahimovich fan either tbh.
savage_mau
18-07-2006, 11:00
well..i just dont like ibra...he is suxk. just as last season n the World cup. overrate sometimes. It better to get d souze or nisterood wif least the $$$.
By the way his had a bad attitude problem..he just cant get along well wif many other player!! so no zlatan!!
definitely not Van Nistelrooy..
GavinMilan
18-07-2006, 11:13
I am starting to like your lineup Mystik.
With the exception that Maldini will be there next to Nesta, Janku will be in place for ZeRoberto and Serginho playing Suazo's role
Please tell me you mean someone else instead of Serginho.
I hope NO. He's garbage and just a ball room dancer and his face just tells you punch me. I don't want a person which I really hate. BTW Sweden's problem at the world cup was scoring goals and he was their striker....
Arildonardo
18-07-2006, 12:37
I am starting to like your lineup Mystik.
With the exception that Maldini will be there next to Nesta, Janku will be in place for ZeRoberto and Serginho playing Suazo's role
What about Seedorf? He is as good as Ze Roberto, maybe even better...
What about Seedorf? He is as good as Ze Roberto, maybe even better...
Always good to have a good possible replacement.. besides Ze Roberto is free AND played with Kaka for Brazil.
Disagree, disagree, disagree....respectfully that is :). A "garbage" player does not have an immediate impact on a league as difficult as the serie a. On the contrary, all players have ups and downs in form, even "garbage" players. I think Ibra is a proven player, who on form (i.e. 2004-2005 season) can be devastating. Sure, he's not the finished article, but given the right environment, this guy could be really special. Sure, he had a pretty crappy second half of season. In fact, he had a horrible World Cup. BUt so what? The guy still has enough quality. In fact, this might be a good situation for us. His price/demand would certainly come down given his recent performances, and if we are smart, we should be able to sign him for a bargain (compared to how much he would have costed last year).
Nirvana FC
19-07-2006, 07:48
Just read (http://sports.alice.it/it/cmc/calcio/200629/cmc_98936.html) that Inter want him on loan for the next season.
IMO he is much better than El Niño and less expensive. But his demeanor on the pitch is something to worry about...
Ibrahimovic is not on a good form. He didn't do much last season and was crap in WC...
BluezBruva
19-07-2006, 10:13
I don't think you should bid for him. I think Torres or Tevez would be a much better option as Ibro isn't a proven goalscorer ever. And he does have a few "off days" doesn't he..
tevez yes, torres no
given the price tags of the players linked to us this is how i rank who we should buy:
1- Suazo (15m euros)
2- Tevez (40m euros/dollars - not sure-)
3- Klose (should be around 15m euros)
4- Makaay (should be around 10m euros maybe even less)
5- Ibrahimovic (15m euros)
Dr Milano
19-07-2006, 10:27
first of all im suprised to see milan bid over 10 million lol ... second of all i would welcome ibrahimovic for that price ... oh yeah another 2 words
Ibra - Cadabra
GRE-NO-LI
19-07-2006, 10:52
Not my wildest dream, for sure, but the guy is a very good forward, and for that price tag it's really a bargain.
BluezBruva
19-07-2006, 10:56
I hear this Suazo you're intrested in his quite a similar player to Zola is this right?? I think he plays for Cagliari doesn't he?
Dr Milano
19-07-2006, 11:00
I hear this Suazo you're intrested in his quite a similar player to Zola is this right?? I think he plays for Cagliari doesn't he?
He does play for cagliari yes ... well i havent seen Gianco play really ... only a little ... but suazo is really quick and is always in goal scoring places ...
the funny thing is that hes praising suazo now... 2 weeks ago he couldnt stop whinning about who we were targeting, which is one of the reasons why i have him on my ignore list
We don't need Ibrahimovic, it would be beter for him to go to Spain or back to Holland, Italian stile of football isn't for him...
Dr Milano
19-07-2006, 17:18
the funny thing is that hes praising suazo now... 2 weeks ago he couldnt stop whinning about who we were targeting, which is one of the reasons why i have him on my ignore list
who are you talking to ...
not you :)
I almost didn't see your message. The signature attracted more attention =)
i hope its not a bad thing, i dont want you to think of me as a 'terrorist'
GRE-NO-LI
19-07-2006, 18:21
I'm with you on that matter, the terrorists are on the other side, within the zionist moloch. Hamas and Fatah warriors are freedom figters, not terrorists.
I'm with you on that matter, the terrorists are on the other side, within the zionist moloch. Hamas and Fatah warriors are freedom figters, not terrorists.
i knew i would read something positive from you after i posted my post, thats why i unblocked you, given that im going to be banned very soon i wanna read what you had to say recently... check out the save lebanese people thread, maybe you can knock some sense into those ignorants minds if they have any, your brazilian if im not mistaken you would probably be less hot headed
GRE-NO-LI
19-07-2006, 18:28
i knew i would read something positive from you after i posted my post, thats why i unblocked you, given that im going to be banned very soon i wanna read what you had to say recently... check out the save lebanese people thread, maybe you can knock some sense into those ignorants minds if they have any, your brazilian if im not mistaken you would probably be less hot headed
I will try.
not you :)
I almost didn't see your message. The signature attracted more attention =)
i hope its not a bad thing, i dont want you to think of me as a 'terrorist'
Haha. Nah...you're waayyy ahead of me!
GRE-NO-LI
19-07-2006, 18:44
It's Done.
palestinokaka07
21-07-2006, 04:13
I think Ibrahimovik is a good player even he didn't play well last year, but adriano i think is the best player to take shevchenko's place in the team, and ribery is a talent young great player
Nirvana FC
21-07-2006, 07:37
I think Ibrahimovik is a good player even he didn't play well last year, but adriano i think is the best player to take shevchenko's place in the team, and ribery is a talent young great player
NOOOOOOOOOO!!! Adriano, no! for God sake!
Some days ago I read that he bought himself a "gift" for his "splendid" performance in the WC... A Maseratti.
Probably Moggi&Giraudo have inspired him...
I just can not imagine the "gift" if he had won the WC, taken the decisive pk like Grosso.
Adriano can only kick with one foot.. he is DEFINITELY not what we need.
GRE-NO-LI
21-07-2006, 14:35
Goddamned, Adriano is AWFUL.
if adriano is available i would sign him right now, i would take loans from the bank and give it to milan to sign him
sheva-gila
21-07-2006, 16:44
Adriano can only kick with one foot.. he is DEFINITELY not what we need.
and another foot he use only when he get to the bus !!!!! :pp18:
Zlatan is a big no-no in a club like Milan not because of his attitude or something like that but because he cant play football these days, good with the ball standing (street moves) still but that´s all, and yes I have seen him play from Allsvenskan to Serie A. He seems to be a good kid but he´s not the saviour type of player Milan is looking for.
hitmannq8
21-07-2006, 17:24
Adriano over Zlatan for me, definitely.. But I wouldnt be sad if we got Zlatan. I dont think there is any thing Milan can do anything this summer to make me smile, especially after having such a terrible summer so far: Sheva, then the scandal, losing Zambrotta and most likely Buffon, and Kaka saying that "he doesnt mind where he plays, its up to Milan to decide". Although I must admit, signing Carlitos Tevez would make me do cartwheels and summersaults all over the place.
Adriano over Zlatan for me, definitely.. But I wouldnt be sad if we got Zlatan. I dont think there is any thing Milan can do anything this summer to make me smile, especially after having such a terrible summer so far: Sheva, then the scandal, losing Zambrotta and most likely Buffon, and Kaka saying that "he doesnt mind where he plays, its up to Milan to decide". Although I must admit, signing Carlitos Tevez would make me do cartwheels and summersaults all over the place.
This is exactly my opinion to to they have to sign some great prospect so the rest of the Milan players can see that Milan is pushing for the big titles. I thought that Berlusconis money was going to get Milan thru difficult situations like this suddenly we need CL and when we is linked to a player all I see is transfersum's like Everton could compete with so we can probably forget about Tevez and be prepared for a "because of the scandal we have decided that we are good as we are we don't need new players" or something like that :moan:
There's still a lot of time before the transfer window closes and a lot of good players who might be available to Milan. We just need to be patient and wait until things are settled with the appeals. We are Milan and great players will always want to wear the Rossoneri colors.
if adriano is available i would sign him right now, i would take loans from the bank and give it to milan to sign him
If he was available and going to Milan, then I'll take bank loans to buy him and make sure him sign with another team and prevent him wearing a rossoneri shirt.
Goddamned, Adriano is AWFUL.
Said it all! Maybe just we brazilians understand that...
If he was available and going to Milan, then I'll take bank loans to buy him and make sure him sign with another team and prevent him wearing a rossoneri shirt.
Said it all! Maybe just we brazilians understand that...
tell me you never wanted him prior to last season ... he had an awful year, but we all know what he is capable of
GRE-NO-LI
22-07-2006, 08:44
If he was available and going to Milan, then I'll take bank loans to buy him and make sure him sign with another team and prevent him wearing a rossoneri shirt.
Hahahaha, perfect!
tell me you never wanted him prior to last season ... he had an awful year, but we all know what he is capable of
errrr, i have never wanted him prior to any seasons, my friend also doesn't rate him highly even when he is scoring lot of goals....he just doesn't seem to be it. not really skillful with the ball, doesn't have the movement etc.
if we can't bring in san siro tevez or torres .. i think we should go for ibrahimovic !
Well, I would back Ibra if he came to Milan. On more a funny note, I don't think he would play real well in Span because he can't moove LoL but given the right conditions he could do pretty well for Milan. Him and Suazo or him and Adriano or him and Cassano would patch Milan up just fine. I'd rather have any of the forementioned combos than just Tevez or just Torres (for that matter I wouldn't have just Torres at all -- much rather Villa or even Del Piero :)
But anyways Ibra as a sole solution would freak me out. I'd be scareeeed :delol:
Dr Milano
22-07-2006, 17:07
ibra is class ... and im sure he will be on his best when carlo takes him under his massive wing
serbian04
29-07-2006, 01:03
NONONONONO
You guys are talking about the two most overrated players in the serie a at this point. Zlatan is not good. i would never get him.
Josh-Sheva
29-07-2006, 01:37
.. Don't swear. What has being ugly got to do with playing football, Ibra has class. When he arrives here, and he scores an amazing goal, ( which he is gonna do ), ya'll start worshiping him or me... Haha, jk
GavinMilan
29-07-2006, 02:13
Honestly, reading the comments from all of u, it makes me remember how some of us did not back the move of Pippo a few yrs back.
Mind u that I am not a big fan of Ibra either, but I think he can do well at Milan
Zlatam is leaving Juve, its clear. But looks like we are moving for Torres for real......fingers crossed.
moriconi
29-07-2006, 09:37
we would all much rather torres, but if no i am happy with ibra he has the potential to be world class
Josh-Sheva
29-07-2006, 10:43
we would all much rather torres, but if no i am happy with ibra he has the potential to be world class
FINALLY! Nice positive comments, and also true.
Keep 'em going... :pr115:
The Torress - Tevez - Ibra hunting story reminds me of a factual example....
Pirlo and Seedorf we got from Inter.....who would ever think that those 2 players being thrown away by Inter would shine and became very bright players with Milan??
I would personally think that Milan is a club that could change sh!t to gold.. :5schal:
So, whoever coming to Milan (with DiVaio as an exception :v408: ) would be shine a real star.... :bright: :bright: :bright:
Josh-Sheva
30-07-2006, 01:45
That is true, anyone except Vieri and some other Inter pieces of s*it that came...
The only thing i think about the Ibrahimovich transfer is that too many people think that we will be the club to change him into a world class striker. We may have done it with a few people in the past and have had moderate success with others, but we've also had our failures.
I think it's alot of money to be spending on someone who hasn't played well for a long time, especially when there are other strikers out there who are more consistent in their performances even if they do play in other leagues.
Dr Milano
30-07-2006, 06:49
News: Ibrahimovic (http://videogamestory.forumfree.net/)
thats a game website , :510: :510: :510: :greed:
The latest reports say Juve want 40 million euros for him !!!
Now i think we can all safely say he's not worth that, heck he's not worth half of that.
For that kind of price we would be mad to go for him and i don't think we're that stupid, i'd hope not at least.
GavinMilan
31-07-2006, 03:33
what if 40M for Ibra and then 2M for Buffon and Chellini
I'd save myself 40 million euros by not buying Ibrahimovich.
Josh-Sheva
31-07-2006, 03:54
40 M is a bit to much, maybe 20 M? and then 22M for Buffon.
Nirvana FC
31-07-2006, 08:48
40 mill is excessive! But sooner or later I presume Juve will realize that he wants to leave and not play a whole season in Serie B.
50 mill for him + Buffon I think it's fair.
GavinMilan
31-07-2006, 10:42
HOw about just Buffon for 20M, need to save up for Ronaldinho
they're having a laugh with that value.
there are tons of strikers available for waaaay less than that. Torres could be bought for a sum around that region, probably less.
King tiger
31-07-2006, 11:33
Yeah, and Ibrahimovic has a true Balkanian temperament.Not really helpful.
Yeah, and Ibrahimovic has a true Balkanian temperament.Not really helpful.
I never like Ibra from the time he played with Ayax. I watched the game and started to feel that he's quite rude and didn't play a fair football game.
Moreover his price tag is quite ridiculously expensive as I read on channel4.com as belows ;
quote. (only the 1st and 2nd paragraph)
Juve set Ibra price Monday 31 July, 2006
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Juventus have made a late bid to keep Zlatan Ibrahimovic in Turin by placing a £28m price tag on his head.
Both Milan clubs have both been chasing the 25-year-old forward and plan to take advantage of Ibra’s clear intention to leave the Bianconeri, as confirmed by his agent Mino Raiola.
unquote
I don't think that Milan is willing to pay that amount of money.....
I never like Ibra from the time he played with Ayax. I watched the game and started to feel that he's quite rude and didn't play a fair football game.
Moreover his price tag is quite ridiculously expensive as I read on channel4.com as belows ;
quote. (only the 1st and 2nd paragraph)
Juve set Ibra price Monday 31 July, 2006
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Juventus have made a late bid to keep Zlatan Ibrahimovic in Turin by placing a £28m price tag on his head.
Both Milan clubs have both been chasing the 25-year-old forward and plan to take advantage of Ibra’s clear intention to leave the Bianconeri, as confirmed by his agent Mino Raiola.
unquote
I don't think that Milan is willing to pay that amount of money.....
i have never like him from his Ajax days too, can we just forget this guy. He only have a good season and nothing else. we must spend the money wisely.
rosoneri_11
31-07-2006, 15:05
If we buy ronaldinho is 100% that Kaka is leaving Milan?Can we buy him and keep Kaka too?
I think Berlusconi want ronaldinho playing alongside Kaka!Is that true?Can we keep Ronaldinho+Kaka
together?
Josh-Sheva
31-07-2006, 15:32
If we buy ronaldinho is 100% that Kaka is leaving Milan?Can we buy him and keep Kaka too?
I think Berlusconi want ronaldinho playing alongside Kaka!Is that true?Can we keep Ronaldinho+Kaka
together?
Probably not, Berlu is not willing to spend some of his money, he only spends profits, according to this transfer window (not including Bonera)
So it is not a possibility...
Lets just keep our fingers crossed for Diarra and Torres :5drunk:
GRE-NO-LI
31-07-2006, 18:14
I guess Diarra and Torres are both really reachable targets.
On the contrary, I've been a huge fan of Ibra since his Ajax days and even more so in his Juve days. His price tag is an absolute joke. If Juve were still in serie a and the player doesnt want to leave then fine. But Juve are playing in serie b next year and Ibra has publicly stated that he wants to leave. Juve has no choice but to sell him at a cut price. We ought to negotiate a package deal for both Ibra and Buffon---after all, it seems like Juve is only inclined to sell in pairs (Zambro plus Thuram; Emerson plus Cannavaro) :)
40 million euros is for BOTH Buffon and Ibrahimovic.......
No Ario, 40 million was for both a while back, then a few days ago it was stated that Juve wanted 40 million just for Ibrahimovich.
Speaking of Ibrahimovich, one of the Italian newspapers (Tuttosport i think) is claiming that Ibrahimovich has said yes to Milan. I couldn't think of anything worse.
GavinMilan
01-08-2006, 04:53
now Ibra too, Milan is loading up players to be the best again
Josh-Sheva
01-08-2006, 05:11
I want Torres/Tevez over Ibra, scheisse dreck, FORZA BERLU
Thanks Jim, i was expressing my own idea of that amount of money.....
I guess Milan got to focus on Diarra first.....then on the forward spot.
We have Brocchi for Cafu's deputy anyway :rollani:
Bonera can play RB as well as CB. Kaladze could keep his CB role while Bonera played RB and Janku/Serginho played LB.
I agree Ario, securing Diarra would be a good first move.
I think we may see him sign before the end of the week ... if we're allowed in the CL that is.
zlatanov
01-08-2006, 06:51
I think we are mostly probing the land now waiting for UEFA's decision and once it's out and positive, we would go ahead with completing some transfers. Until then, however, the papers will be flooded with rumours only.
GavinMilan
01-08-2006, 07:08
It will be great after being official in CL
Nirvana FC
01-08-2006, 08:27
No Ario, 40 million was for both a while back, then a few days ago it was stated that Juve wanted 40 million just for Ibrahimovich.
Speaking of Ibrahimovich, one of the Italian newspapers (Tuttosport i think) is claiming that Ibrahimovich has said yes to Milan. I couldn't think of anything worse.
Jim, according to today's edition of La Gazzetta , Juve is going after Amelia and Lucarelli 'cos they're already realised that keep Buffon and Ibrahimovic will be a "bit" difficult.
Maybe before the end of august we'll have the end of this soap opera.
Further to those reports Nirvana it suggests Juve are after Amelia because we will offer them £50 million for both Ibrahimovich and Buffon !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I mean what the heck is that about ? £50 million ? Why are we prepared to pay that much for those two ? It's ridiculous. I'd be so angry if we paid anywhere near that much for those two. How can Zambrotta & Thuram go for such a small fee and yet we're looking like paying 2 - 2.5 times what barca paid ?
This is ludicrous. Ibrahimovich should not be a Milan player full stop. The other two we keep mentioning would be much better suited to us.
zlatanov
01-08-2006, 09:10
I think it says that we will probably have to offer around 70 mil euros (50 mil BP) but this is based on yesterday's reports of Juve fixing Ibra's price on 40 mil. The article basically guesses - another word is speculates - that if Ibra's price is 40 mil, then for both, Milan would have to offer around 70 mil.
After that the article goes on to say that, after all, this move is stil in its initial phase i.e. many things can happen later on.
albertini_forever
01-08-2006, 10:08
for information Ibra Just made 7 Goal last season, compare with this name Suazo 21 Goal ..
Josh-Sheva
01-08-2006, 11:26
Ibra is more likely to come than Suazo, even though Suazo would be a better choice, Ibra could be a Rossonero next season...
GilAttack [11]
01-08-2006, 11:45
Why is it that there isnt much interest in Suazo from top teams if he is that good?
Nirvana FC
01-08-2006, 11:50
']Why is it that there isnt much interest in Suazo from top teams if he is that good?
Good question! He is!
Nirvana FC
01-08-2006, 11:52
If he wants to pay...
From Forbes.com - Richest men in the world - 2005
Silvio Berlusconi Nº 25
68, self made
Source: media
Net Worth: $12 bil up
Country of citizenship: Italy
Residence: North of Milan, Italy
Industry: Media/Entertainment
Marital Status: married , 5 children
University of Milan, Doctor of Jurisprudence
Italy's wealthiest man has been its prime minister since 2001. He was acquitted in December of charges that he bribed a judge in 1985 to block the sale of a food company to a business rival. In December, he resigned as president of ACMilan soccer team to conform with Italian laws prohibiting the prime minister from running private companies while in office. His investment holding company, Fininvest, owns more than half of Mediaset, one of Italy's largest television networks. Also has banking, insurance and publishing interests. Still has time for leisure pursuits like singing and gardening.
Singing!!!??? :1avs:
Dr Milano
01-08-2006, 14:34
If he wants to pay...
From Forbes.com - Richest men in the world - 2005
Silvio Berlusconi Nº 25
68, self made
Source: media
Net Worth: $12 bil up
Country of citizenship: Italy
Residence: North of Milan, Italy
Industry: Media/Entertainment
Marital Status: married , 5 children
University of Milan, Doctor of Jurisprudence
Italy's wealthiest man has been its prime minister since 2001. He was acquitted in December of charges that he bribed a judge in 1985 to block the sale of a food company to a business rival. In December, he resigned as president of ACMilan soccer team to conform with Italian laws prohibiting the prime minister from running private companies while in office. His investment holding company, Fininvest, owns more than half of Mediaset, one of Italy's largest television networks. Also has banking, insurance and publishing interests. Still has time for leisure pursuits like singing and gardening.
Singing!!!??? :1avs:
lol hes rich
Nirvana FC
01-08-2006, 15:01
lol hes rich
The funniest thing was: I did not find Moratti there.
Berlu, Armani... But no Moratti!
:coffee:
PS: 12 BILLION is a incredible amount of money!
Jesus!
Still has time for leisure pursuits like singing and gardening.
Good Heavens thats a lot of money. Isn't that around what Roman is worth? I can see him singing actually like a mad uncle, but I don't picture him a gardener. He probably has Galli come over & threaten his veggies to grow bigger, faster, better....
and back on topic, please no Ibra, no matter how rich Berlu is.
Mulling over all the rumours today, it seems that Moratti wants Ibrahimovich and is trying to get him. Which is some good news for us, however i believe we're still looking at him. With any luck Moratti will get there before us.
Mulling over all the rumours today, it seems that Moratti wants Ibrahimovich and is trying to get him. Which is some good news for us, however i believe we're still looking at him. With any luck Moratti will get there before us.
i really hope so. money spend on Ibra is like throwing down the drain.
Arildonardo
02-08-2006, 08:02
If he wants to pay...
From Forbes.com - Richest men in the world - 2005
Silvio Berlusconi Nº 25
68, self made
Source: media
Net Worth: $12 bil up
Country of citizenship: Italy
Residence: North of Milan, Italy
Industry: Media/Entertainment
Marital Status: married , 5 children
University of Milan, Doctor of Jurisprudence
Italy's wealthiest man has been its prime minister since 2001. He was acquitted in December of charges that he bribed a judge in 1985 to block the sale of a food company to a business rival. In December, he resigned as president of ACMilan soccer team to conform with Italian laws prohibiting the prime minister from running private companies while in office. His investment holding company, Fininvest, owns more than half of Mediaset, one of Italy's largest television networks. Also has banking, insurance and publishing interests. Still has time for leisure pursuits like singing and gardening.
Singing!!!??? :1avs:
I'd rather think he's into laughing and not singing. Laughing all the way to the bank... :5ok:
rosoneri_11
02-08-2006, 12:46
The funniest thing was: I did not find Moratti there.
Berlu, Armani... But no Moratti!
:coffee:
PS: 12 BILLION is a incredible amount of money!
Jesus!
You know why you didn't find Moratti at the list?
Well when they went to ask him how many moneys he got....he was at the bathroom??? :delol: :delol: :delol: :delol: :delol:
rosoneri_11
02-08-2006, 12:54
So we are back again to win the cl!
Im from athens/greece and i want Milan to rich to the top here on cl! :p283:
As for a striker i want Torres he is a kid,he scores very much,he is very fast,
and if he came at Milan he will be a world-class striker!Why we are waiting for?
I want Milan to buy for this season:Torres,Buffon,M.Diarra,Gallas!
I think Bonera is a good player but we where linked and for Danile Alves from Selliva!Why we let him go he is a fantastic RB,or winger!WHY,WHY,WHY???
Dr Milano
02-08-2006, 13:32
So we are back again to win the cl!
Im from athens/greece and i want Milan to rich to the top here on cl! :p283:
As for a striker i want Torres he is a kid,he scores very much,he is very fast,
and if he came at Milan he will be a world-class striker!Why we are waiting for?
I want Milan to buy for this season:Torres,Buffon,M.Diarra,Gallas!
I think Bonera is a good player but we where linked and for Danile Alves from Selliva!Why we let him go he is a fantastic RB,or winger!WHY,WHY,WHY???
because he didnt want to come he wanted liverpool thats why why why why
KingHenry®
03-08-2006, 06:19
hmmmmmm
does any one know how much ac milan are worth?
milanisti2503
03-08-2006, 07:01
ibra is agood enough player.One of you who dn't like him just because he is an exjuve player :1d31: :ilol:
Why milan missed the change to buy zambarottta???!!!!! :v46: :cpuke:
I hope milan can buy ibra and buffon cheap :1avs: :1avs:
We mised our chance at Zambrotta becuase at the time CL was looking very unlikely.
I don't dislike Ibrahimovich because he's a Juve player, i dislike him because i don't see what's so special about him.
Even when he was at Ajax i would never say i liked him. If he did come here i would support him and i would hope he could prove me wrong. I just think both Torres & Tevez are extremely better options, both as players and for the club.
Josh-Sheva
04-08-2006, 10:06
Jim UK, correct, Torres and Tevez are both faster and have better attitudes :)
ACMILAN1983
04-08-2006, 10:31
Personally, I can't say I've ever been too keen on Ibra. He's a decent player with talent, and has great potential (some say to reach MVB's levels), but honestly, I can't ever seeing him truly reaching that level.
Honestly, I wouldn't be too disappointed seeing him unveiled, but I do think there are some much better opportunities out there. Plus, considering the price tag Juve (especially considering they're in Serie B) placed and Ibra's form the last year, I think I'd describe it a rip off if we were to sign him for anything more than 20million euros.
Finally, his personality and attitude are especially worrying. He's fallen out with a lot of players, coaches and other people. His arrogance is far too great to be described as mere confidence and he really strikes me as a player that could cause disharmony at our club.
Hasan Rossonero
04-08-2006, 10:45
Personally, I can't say I've ever been too keen on Ibra. He's a decent player with talent, and has great potential (some say to reach MVB's levels), but honestly, I can't ever seeing him truly reaching that level.
Honestly, I wouldn't be too disappointed seeing him unveiled, but I do think there are some much better opportunities out there. Plus, considering the price tag Juve (especially considering they're in Serie B) placed and Ibra's form the last year, I think I'd describe it a rip off if we were to sign him for anything more than 20million euros.
Finally, his personality and attitude are especially worrying. He's fallen out with a lot of players, coaches and other people. His arrogance is far too great to be described as mere confidence and he really strikes me as a player that could cause disharmony at our club.
I agree...I DO NOT want Ibra to come but will accept it if he does. If he does come, I think our final target will be Buffon.
Personally, I can't say I've ever been too keen on Ibra. He's a decent player with talent, and has great potential (some say to reach MVB's levels), but honestly, I can't ever seeing him truly reaching that level.
Honestly, I wouldn't be too disappointed seeing him unveiled, but I do think there are some much better opportunities out there. Plus, considering the price tag Juve (especially considering they're in Serie B) placed and Ibra's form the last year, I think I'd describe it a rip off if we were to sign him for anything more than 20million euros.
Finally, his personality and attitude are especially worrying. He's fallen out with a lot of players, coaches and other people. His arrogance is far too great to be described as mere confidence and he really strikes me as a player that could cause disharmony at our club.
ok, you can join jim_uk and me in praying that Ibra won't be here. i see 10 times more potential in cassano than him and heck, cassano seem like a goodie two shoes beside Ibra. i rather see milan using the money for cassano.
hitmannq8
04-08-2006, 11:42
I agree with you fellows on Ibra, there are players better than him out there. If we wanted Cassano we should have gotten him before Capello went there, but now, we can forget about signing any Real player, especially after the Kaka affair.
I would love to see Tevez here instead of Ibra. I hope he will be our surprise transfer. Or even for a more crazy surprise, imagine getting Sheva back!
GilAttack [11]
04-08-2006, 12:14
Maybe im in the minority, but I would welcome Ibra. Still, Im going to wait until we make a move for a foward...I dont think there are many that qualify as better players than Zlatan.
Nirvana FC
04-08-2006, 12:18
Personally, I can't say I've ever been too keen on Ibra. He's a decent player with talent, and has great potential (some say to reach MVB's levels), but honestly, I can't ever seeing him truly reaching that level.
Honestly, I wouldn't be too disappointed seeing him unveiled, but I do think there are some much better opportunities out there. Plus, considering the price tag Juve (especially considering they're in Serie B) placed and Ibra's form the last year, I think I'd describe it a rip off if we were to sign him for anything more than 20million euros.
Finally, his personality and attitude are especially worrying. He's fallen out with a lot of players, coaches and other people. His arrogance is far too great to be described as mere confidence and he really strikes me as a player that could cause disharmony at our club.
I partially agree with you, ACMILAN1983. His demeanor on the pitch is something to worry about, but everything now leads to him as the solution to our attack. And I think he's a good player and can develop.
But I just can not see "some much better opportunities out there". I have doubts about all forwards recently linked with us. None convince me 100%.
acmilanone
04-08-2006, 12:18
i, too, don't like his attitude. he thinks he is a very talented player. it is true that he is talented. but with that attitude, he is not that great.
Tevez is good..but extremely short. We need tall strikers to
1. score headers
2. flick on long balls for Gila/Inzaghi to pounce on
3. to assist at defending set pieces
4. to be a threat when we have set pieces
Mystik i think you have a few of your points the wrong way around. Shevchenko was the striker who would drop deep to pick up balls and in those situations you need someone with skill to beat people and pick a pass, this is what Tevez & Torres can do. Tevez more so, his dribbling qualities are quite something.
Gilardino was/is our point man, the guy to lead the attack. He's the one who will win the long balls and flick them onto someone else. He's the one who will hold the ball up to bring in other players. He did this for Italy at the world cup, this is what he does for us.
Smaller players can still be a threat at set pieces. Owen's small but he's pretty good at heading the ball. It's not always about how tall you are, if it were Zigic, Crouch and the tall aussie player would all be the best headers in the world, but they're not. Of course height can help, but it's the quality of the cross combined with the timing of the run that makes a goal, not strictly how tall you are.
Yea I guess I got point 2 all wrong.. but I think Ancelotti is looking for tall strikers because we haven't been linked to Tevez for a while.. only strikers like Torres or Ibrahimovic.
maybe Mystik, maybe.
Personally i think Tevez & Gilardino up front would work really well.
Could someone please tell me that Tevez's passing is top notch too? I don't rememeber he passed the ball much in the world cup. He only did the passing when he couldn't dribble. That's the outmost concern in him. Sometimes I do think South American players over-dribble occasionally, which could ruin the flow of game. Anyway, I will appreciate any opinions.
ACMILAN1983
04-08-2006, 17:13
Could someone please tell me that Tevez's passing is top notch too? I don't rememeber he passed the ball much in the world cup. He only did the passing when he couldn't dribble. That's the outmost concern in him. Sometimes I do think South American players over-dribble occasionally, which could ruin the flow of game. Anyway, I will appreciate any opinions.
I think for his position his passing is reasonably good. He's no Pirlo when it comes to passing, but he can do a lot of neat little plays very well, which I think with Kaka and Gila, would work very well.
To me, Tevez would fit way better than any other rumour (Ibra, Torres, etc.)
He can play as a Pippo Inzaghi in the area, or as a Kaka' coming from behind or the sides (just comparing positions, not personal qualities)
GilAttack [11]
04-08-2006, 17:18
Look, Chelsea didnt buy Shevchenko because of his passing and we wouldnt buy Tevez because of his passing skills. Still, I think its a moot point since Milan doesnt seem to have interest in buying him but he wouldnt affect our game flow. I mean, guys like Gilardino may alter it when they play outside the box but not Tevez.
zZ[-_-]Zz
04-08-2006, 17:29
Could someone please tell me that Tevez's passing is top notch too?
he did split the S&M defence with a nice pass to Messi to score...
Here is some development on Ibra at juve if someone wants to check it out.
http://www.juventus.com/uk/news/detail.aspx?lml_language_id=0&trs_id=1370000&ID=8334
Ibrahimovic has to be the new favourite to be brought in.
It's now at the point where I would be suprised if he isn't a milan player by september. Not sure how I feel about it though, he dosn't score that often and he's very tempremental.
he dosn't score that often and he's very tempremental.
With that in mind it makes you wonder why we seem so eager to throw away money for him. I just don't understand it :googly:
KingHenry®
05-08-2006, 04:51
i really cannot stand ibra, y cant we hav torres??
I'd love to have Ibrahimovic with P15M. I watched him when he was playing in Ajax and I remember a brilliant goal of him, passing about 4 defenders and goalkeeper before scoring <even they are a bit sillly:D>
I don't think we can have torres now, we don't want to pay that amount of money <P30M> like chelsea.
PS: can anyone tell my which key is Euro which key is Pound please:D
PS: can anyone tell my which key is Euro which key is Pound please:D
haha
£: pound
€: euro (if you have a british keyboard it will be alt + 4)
With that in mind it makes you wonder why we seem so eager to throw away money for him. I just don't understand it :googly:
You ´re not alone, get Zlatan for small change is OK but spending big money and blow all chances to get someone like Torres or Tevez in the future is a big mistake.
moriconi
05-08-2006, 07:01
ancelotti wants both crespo and zlatan, and get rid of amoroso
_MaJi_tz
05-08-2006, 07:31
better torres + crespo and say bye bye to amoroso
Ibra missed yesterday's friendly and today he misses training. Chances of him staying in Juve are getting smaller. Why would you wanna keep someone who has no willpower to play for you?
Are there other clubs that are more heavily linked to him other than Milan?
Graeme C
05-08-2006, 09:38
inter have been, i hope we dont get him... it would a disaster to replace sheva with ibra......
KingHenry®
05-08-2006, 09:56
inter have been, i hope we dont get him... it would a disaster to replace sheva with ibra......
how hard can it be to go over to another club and ask if the player is available, dont milan play athletico madird soon? may be then they can talk 2 torres
Billy1969
05-08-2006, 11:12
Ibra missed yesterday's friendly and today he misses training. Chances of him staying in Juve are getting smaller. Why would you wanna keep someone who has no willpower to play for you?
Are there other clubs that are more heavily linked to him other than Milan?
Inter, as always.
Dr Milano
05-08-2006, 12:47
hmmm many milan fans around 80 percent want ibra and im one of the 80 % but 20 % think that he shouldnt ... so hmmmmm i asked this other rossoneri ... today and he thinks that it ll be a great signing :devf: and i couldnt agree more
So here it is: Milan is defnitely linked with Crespo & Ibra
Well, if Milan is interested in Ibra, then maybe he wouldn't be too bad in Milan and his behavior wouldn't be too bad in Milan. There hasn't been any dismissals and there certainly is talking.
Which is better? a striker or no striker at all? Milan may go for quantity and not quality if we don't have a lot of options.
KingHenry®
05-08-2006, 13:05
ibra is a complete waste of money everybody knows that
Josh-Sheva
05-08-2006, 14:02
Ibra has skill, I have seen his Joga Bonito videos and he is amazing, he is quite the same on the pitch, for e.g. his goal against Werder... :)
well i would'nt mind him now since henry,eto,torres,souzo, and ronaldinho didn't come i think hes the next to all of those to cover gila's side. but one thing i fear if we qualify gila didnt score in the cl and we all know what's ibra's problem so am scared. atleast bring him and not loan brollielo(don't know how to spell)
So what happened throughout last season with Juventus then ? I would take Ibrahimovich if he ...
1) Changed his attitude
2) Worked for the team and not himself
3) Stopped sulking all the time
4) Scored 20 - 25 league goals in a season
5) Displayed his talents on the pitch and not on stupid nike videos.
6) Was available for 15 million EUROS
and only if all of these points were satisfied.
Aside from point (4) which no one can really predict, who knows how many goals someone will score ... and point (6) which is just dreaming, both Tevez and Torres fulfill all the other points. So why do we still want Ibrahimovich ?
Dr Milano
05-08-2006, 17:23
So what happened throughout last season with Juventus then ? I would take Ibrahimovich if he ...
1) Changed his attitude
2) Worked for the team and not himself
3) Stopped sulking all the time
4) Scored 20 - 25 league goals in a season
5) Displayed his talents on the pitch and not on stupid nike videos.
6) Was available for 15 million EUROS
and only if all of these points were satisfied.
Aside from point (4) which no one can really predict, who knows how many goals someone will score ... and point (6) which is just dreaming, both Tevez and Torres fulfill all the other points. So why do we still want Ibrahimovich ?hey if he scored 20 - 25 hoals i think that his attitude would have already changed and he wouldnt sulk at all lol at least with no that many goals ... i seen him on many videos lol its true though he does sooo many skills and stuff but on the pitch he dont do much
I for one am in Doc Milano's imaginary 80% who are in favour of Ibra....I think it's more like 20%, Doc!!
But either way, I am hoping this transfer happens. Ibra can and will be a phenomenal player for us. FORZA MILAN! FORZA IBRA!
tardissun
05-08-2006, 23:59
hmmm many milan fans around 80 percent want ibra and im one of the 80 % but 20 % think that he shouldnt ... so hmmmmm i asked this other rossoneri ... today and he thinks that it ll be a great signing :devf: and i couldnt agree more
I doubt 80% want him as their first choice signing.
I would much rather have Tevez, Torres, Cassano, etc.. than Ibra
If you makes you feel any better, I do feel Ibra is a better choice than Amorouso, RVN, and Fat Ronnie.
Neither Ibra or Crespo (assuming we sign them both as we're linked to) are forwards we're going to ooh and ahh over - like $heva.
I say we go for Tevez. He wants to leave Brazil now anyway because he feels his family is in danger.
Dr Milano
06-08-2006, 05:51
I doubt 80% want him as their first choice signing.
I would much rather have Tevez, Torres, Cassano, etc.. than Ibra
If you makes you feel any better, I do feel Ibra is a better choice than Amorouso, RVN, and Fat Ronnie.
Neither Ibra or Crespo (assuming we sign them both as we're linked to) are forwards we're going to ooh and ahh over - like $heva.
I say we go for Tevez. He wants to leave Brazil now anyway because he feels his family is in danger.
hmmmmmmmm not bad thoughts and idea's :respect:
One thing to remeber about Zlatan is that he did score 16 (?) goals his first season in Italy. It's not uncommon for foreigners to struggle their second season in Italy (Kakà for example), so maybe he'll come back with a vengeance next season!
I still think he's too expensive and has too foul a temper for us to buy him though.
Roger Nolli
06-08-2006, 18:03
I hope YES!
I like the soccer of him
One thing to remeber about Zlatan is that he did score 16 (?) goals his first season in Italy. It's not uncommon for foreigners to struggle their second season in Italy (Kakà for example), so maybe he'll come back with a vengeance next season!
I still think he's too expensive and has too foul a temper for us to buy him though.
I don't think Kaka` has struggled much in terms of adapting to the style of play in Italy. Just that he didn't score as many.
Like I've said.. I'll trust our management and their decisions. They are professionals and no much more about this business than we do. If Zlatan seems to be the answer.. then he most likely will be.
_MaJi_tz
07-08-2006, 07:59
I preffer torres over zlatan but...I think zlatan wil be oki couse we have kaka and pirlo and with asist of this two guys zlatan can be first player of seria a
Official: Crespo to Inter :v103:
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/aug7f.html
I think Ibra is coming. He'll become one of starters and I think he can work well with Kaka.
Personally I've lost faith with the management.
Carlo refuses to give younger players much a chance. Old players and players who should have been moved on are still wearing our colours without deserving them.
Next season Maldini, Billy, Cafu, Simic, & Serginho will be gone leaving us with Nesta, KK, Bonera, Janku & Favalli. :dontkn:
It's ridicolous that we haven't made major improvements in our defence. We keep saying that the club is bigger than any one player, but both Billy & paolo should no longer have to be called on to lead our defence. We will NOT win anything this season with the current squad. We need at least 2 more defenders, a keeper, another def mid to cover injury prone Ambro & 2 quality strikers to get rid of Amoruso & Borreillo,and who are we looking at?? Ibracan'tscoretosavehislifeabiv. What a joke we are.
Milan prepare Gallas bid
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/aug7g.html
Don't worry, I bet they're working on the defender side...But the article does say that they will make an offer depending on the outcome of on Wednesday’s CL preliminary match. Grrr...
I think they get Bonera for other games like Coppa Italia but yes defense is definitely a priority!
Inzaghi came from Juve too and he did well with Milan. I hope Ibra will as well.
Ys, but Inzaghi is a proven goalscorer, Ibra is a hothead, who will leave us with 10 men in most matches, and missed so many open goals last year it beggers belief. I would have scored more in Serie A, givin his chances.
Next season Maldini, Billy, Cafu, Simic, & Serginho will be gone leaving us with Nesta, KK, Bonera, Janku & Favalli. :dontkn:
It's ridicolous that we haven't made major improvements in our defence. We keep saying that the club is bigger than any one player, but both Billy & paolo should no longer have to be called on to lead our defence. We will NOT win anything this season with the current squad. We need at least 2 more defenders, a keeper, another def mid to cover injury prone Ambro & 2 quality strikers to get rid of Amoruso & Borreillo,and who are we looking at?? Ibracan'tscoretosavehislifeabiv. What a joke we are.
Amongst the defenders that we have left, I trust Nesta and KK with my life, Bonera at least has some experience in Serie A and Janku did showed some brilliance last season. That's left Favalli. Seriously, I don't have anymore words to curse this guy.
Speaking of Ibra, at least Billy, when asked to choose between Crespo and Ibhra, chose Ibra. As long as Billy can handle Ibra if the deal managed to go through, then, I don't really mind him in Milan. And hey! Maybe during our January tranfer, our management finally shows their fangs. This summer transfer season really suck for Milan, who knows how we'll do in January.
I don't think Kaka` has struggled much in terms of adapting to the style of play in Italy. Just that he didn't score as many.
From what I saw of Kakà's second season for us, he didn't have as much impact on our game as he did his first season.
Arildonardo
07-08-2006, 10:42
Ibra has skill, I have seen his Joga Bonito videos and he is amazing, he is quite the same on the pitch, for e.g. his goal against Werder... :)
I've seen videos of 12-14 year old guys juggling the same way as the stars in these Joga Bonito videos... It doesn't necessarily make you a fantastic footballer.
Zlatan is ok, and good backup for Gilardino and Inzaghi. But tell him that he is a backup player, and he will be whining and complaining for 2 years... I can't stand that guy. I don't think he's handled his dispute with Juventus as an adult either.
From what I saw of Kakà's second season for us, he didn't have as much impact on our game as he did his first season.
but he still did reasonably well, not as great like the first but still good.
On the other hand, Ibra is plain bad, you don't even see him in the game at all.
Is Zlatan the only striker/forward we are interested in? or is it some other player? And I don´t mean players like Torres or Tevez who in this moment is pure fantasy signing but players like Klose, Toni, Trez who we at this point can afford
but he still did reasonably well, not as great like the first but still good.
On the other hand, Ibra is plain bad, you don't even see him in the game at all.
Yeah, I probably didn't see enough games to really judge him. And if he'd sucked the way Ibrahimovic did this season, he'd been demoted to shining boots! ;)
Is Zlatan the only striker/forward we are interested in? or is it some other player? And I don´t mean players like Torres or Tevez who in this moment is pure fantasy signing but players like Klose, Toni, Trez who we at this point can afford
With Juve's price for Ibrahimovic ranging between £18 million and £28 million, i should imagine we can afford any of the players you listed.
We've hardly ever been linked with Klose, nor Trezeguet. Toni we've been associated a little, but not much. The two we're always associated with are Ibrahimovich and Torres, so i don't see the latter as being pure fantasy.
With Juve's price for Ibrahimovic ranging between £18 million and £28 million, i should imagine we can afford any of the players you listed.
We've hardly ever been linked with Klose, nor Trezeguet. Toni we've been associated a little, but not much. The two we're always associated with are Ibrahimovich and Torres, so i don't see the latter as being pure fantasy.
At this point, and after everything we've been hearing all summer, i think you can consider all the possibilities to be pure fantasy... becuase until it's official, thats all most of them will turn out to be.
I would have scored more in Serie A, givin his chances.
I wouldn't say that tbh lol
My view on Ibra is that he has amazing potential, and for a guy his size he has great technique as well. His reputation was tarnished in Juve, but if Carlo can whip him into the right shape, both physical and mental, he could become on of Serie A's top strikers.
Official: Crespo to Inter
http://www.channel4.com/sport/footb...alia/aug7f.html
I think Ibra is coming. He'll become one of starters and I think he can work well with Kaka.
We'll regret this. Mark my words (unless I'm wrong, in which case please don't mark my words), this was a very smart move for Inter. Crespo may not be the flashiest or most creative striker, but he gets the job done and is consistent. He happens to be at the right place at the right time, especially on set pieces. He really would have helped us out.
I have no problem with Zlatan coming(Zlatan is a nicer name than Ibra). He's an extremely talented forward who has Serie A experience and is exactly the type of forward we are lookin for. He will adapt to our style of play.. I guarantee he won't try to be a one-man show. What more do you want..?
Zlatan is ok, and good backup for Gilardino and Inzaghi. But tell him that he is a backup player, and he will be whining and complaining for 2 years... I can't stand that guy. I don't think he's handled his dispute with Juventus as an adult either.
:D, Zlatan plays lower than Inzaghi and Gilardino you know, so he can't be subs for them:D. And I think Zlatan is good enough for Milan, he's just too expensive:D.
Is Zlatan the only striker/forward we are interested in? or is it some other player? And I don´t mean players like Torres or Tevez who in this moment is pure fantasy signing but players like Klose, Toni, Trez who we at this point can afford
We don't need Toni, Trezeguet, Klose:D. Toni is 18M as far as I concerned. Trezeguet and Klose is expensive too. With that money Tevez can't be a problem:D.
We'll never pay so much for Zlatan.. he desperately wants to leave.. Juve will HAVE to sell him. Tevez might come if we are selling Dida to Corinthians.. it's a nice bargain.
We'll never pay so much for Zlatan.. he desperately wants to leave.. Juve will HAVE to sell him. Tevez might come if we are selling Dida to Corinthians.. it's a nice bargain.
The facts are :
1. Crespo has signed with Inter...good enough for not bothering Milan's plan
2. Zlatan will for sure be sold as Juve has no more power to hold him. Hopefully with lesser amount of transfer money
3. Dida is planning to move to Corinthians and this could mean that we can get Tevez and Buffon to replacing Dida.
Thsi is maybe what Galliani told us sometimes ago that Milan will bring in Stars.....just cross our fingers then :v408:
GilAttack [11]
07-08-2006, 19:32
The facts are :
1. Crespo has signed with Inter...good enough for not bothering Milan's plan
2. Zlatan will for sure be sold as Juve has no more power to hold him. Hopefully with lesser amount of transfer money
3. Dida is planning to move to Corinthians and this could mean that we can get Tevez and Buffon to replacing Dida.
Thsi is maybe what Galliani told us sometimes ago that Milan will bring in Stars.....just cross our fingers then :v408:
This is almost a best case scenario (within reality), so yeah, why not?
Being Tevez a fan favorite in Corinthians, I think money will be important for their management but not for their fans: enter Dida.
And if we could cap it off with Buffon, then great.
Here in MilanMania it seems we are always discussing the same players, but I imagine Milan's board contemplating many possibilities.
Of course they are.. that's why I'll respect whatever decision they make. They are professionals and it's quite obvious that signing 11 big name players every summer does NOT equal success. The starting 11 should be changed gradually.. not all at once.
Hmmm....Very interesting, Inter has just signed Crespo. So where does that leave us? I agree with you guys, it's looking more and more likely that Ibra will be joining us (sorry, Jim :)). Moratti promised one of Crespo, Ibra, or Toni this year. They've got Crespo, Toni is looking likely to stay at Fio. Ibra wants out---if not to Inter, then who else? He'll probably sign for us, which makes me very, very happy....
As for missing out on Crespo, I'm glad we didnt opt for him. He had a good season on loan with us, but we're probably better off getting someone younger who would provide a long term solution for us. I think Crespo is now past his prime (too bad he moved to England at his prime) and it's best that we look for other options...
I sincerely would prefer Toni than Ibra. Just imagine Kaka - Gila - Toni with Pirlo and Gattuso in midfield. Dude...
We're looking for a long term solution.. Toni is what.. 31 ?
Oh no....
http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=107036
Ibrahimovic-Milan Deal Almost Sealed
Juventus will receive 28 million Euros for the Swedish player
Zlatan Ibrahimovic is on the verge of joining Milan as the Bianconeri and Rossoneri have reached an agreement for the transfer of the forward, for a fee of around 28 million Euros.
With the Old Lady condemned to Serie B football, Ibrahimovic did not hide the fact that he did not want to play in a lower division.
Inter were also after him, but following the signing of Hernan Crespo, the Nerazzurri let go.
The player dubbed as 'the new Van Basten', should have the transfer become official by the end of the day, or latest within the next upcoming days.
€28 million??? are we nuts??? the guy wants to go badly, and nobody in our management can't use that to lower the price?? :fero:
I'd like to see him in Milan, but NOT at that price :1avs:
rahul.acm
08-08-2006, 01:21
Oh no....
http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=107036
Ibrahimovic-Milan Deal Almost Sealed
Juventus will receive 28 million Euros for the Swedish player
...............
€28 million??? are we nuts??? the guy wants to go badly, and nobody in our management can't use that to lower the price?? :fero:
I'd like to see him in Milan, but NOT at that price :1avs:
Have faith my dear! He will prove his worth. :1old:
maybe. if something doesn't hit him in the head and he says "i want to go" :5milan:
i generally don't like non-loyal players. if someone has problems with management, feels no respect from them (like gallas for example, after five years they take his shirt number) etc, then it's ok to request a transfer.
but Toni, Ibra, Sheva, and Reyes, they lost my respect forever.
savage_mau
08-08-2006, 04:04
F*** oFf . i never like ibra.. not only disloyal but i just hate see him!!. over rated!!! over priced!!!! almost double RVN price. Better invest in torres!!! or tevez!!!
KingHenry®
08-08-2006, 04:09
please noooooooooooooooo
whatever happened to torres and tevez
gr8 news, he is good, if you watched arsenal vs juv last year cl, he was the best juv player, the commentators were surprised when they substituted him, I think he is a very good buy, carlo will make him into one of the best forwards we have seen, + our midfield has some of the best players in the world he will have gr8 service its only a matter of putting the balls into the net and that’s what sheva did so well like him or hate him …
28 million Euros? just let berlusconi pay, hes anoth money... and jeah i think Ibrahimovic is a realy nice player for milan
We're looking for a long term solution.. Toni is what.. 31 ?
Birthday for Toni: 26/05/1977
PLease kindly check the stats before you ever post. That's how you eat your own word spot on sometimes. Ok, in case the math is too difficult; that's 29 yrs old. If you consider that to be too old, then nevermind; FM is the place to go.
The starting 11 should be changed gradually.. not all at once.
Except we haven't changed the starting 11 gradually, it's hardly changed at all over the past few years which is why quite a few changes to the first 11 are needed now !
if you watched arsenal vs juv last year cl, he was the best juv player, the commentators were surprised when they substituted him
hahaha ... what ! I watched those games and every single Juve player was rubbish in both legs. Ibrahimovich did NOTHING, especially at Higbury, he was terrible. Yet this is the player alot of people want here ? No fight, no determination, no pride ?? It doesn't matter if you're playing badly and things aren't coming off for you, you can still track back and help your team out instead of standing still waiting for the ball and sulking !
They were surprised because he should have been off sooner i expect !
Regarding his transfer to us, there are mixed reports today with alot of stories saying Inter are ahead of us to sign him and some stories saying we are ahead. So where Goal got this idea that he's already ours from when sources in Italy don't know is beyond me.
Dr Milano
08-08-2006, 05:04
gr8 news, he is good, if you watched arsenal vs juv last year cl, he was the best juv player, the commentators were surprised when they substituted him, I think he is a very good buy, carlo will make him into one of the best forwards we have seen, + our midfield has some of the best players in the world he will have gr8 service its only a matter of putting the balls into the net and that’s what sheva did so well like him or hate him …
i hope milan sign him too hes a good player and then when he is scoring hopefully some people will start to realise that he is the genie in milan
Ibra Cadabra hes a good player overall
Rayno_acm
08-08-2006, 05:21
It would be nice to have him, he's a player who could pass an opponent with the ball in his feet. We need some of those type of players, cuz so far our one and only player who could do this is Ricardo Kaka'
Bring him here :)
sheva-gila
08-08-2006, 06:08
take it easy guys about Ibra don't forget his skills ability pasion for dribling pass to a box player ,Torres vuld be good aslo having both of them in squad means change game tactic cuze we are playin for some year with one box player in game.
GILA-IBRA seems perfect FORZA MILANNNNN
ACMILAN1983
08-08-2006, 06:22
Oh no....
http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=107036
Ibrahimovic-Milan Deal Almost Sealed
Juventus will receive 28 million Euros for the Swedish player
Zlatan Ibrahimovic is on the verge of joining Milan as the Bianconeri and Rossoneri have reached an agreement for the transfer of the forward, for a fee of around 28 million Euros.
With the Old Lady condemned to Serie B football, Ibrahimovic did not hide the fact that he did not want to play in a lower division.
Inter were also after him, but following the signing of Hernan Crespo, the Nerazzurri let go.
The player dubbed as 'the new Van Basten', should have the transfer become official by the end of the day, or latest within the next upcoming days.
€28 million??? are we nuts??? the guy wants to go badly, and nobody in our management can't use that to lower the price?? :fero:
I'd like to see him in Milan, but NOT at that price :1avs:
I'm hoping that is just rubbish, because quite frankly that's as big a rip off as Man U paying £18million for Carrick.
Considering I'm also hearing Tevez is a possibility at a cheaper price, this deal to me seems very, very bad.
Signing Ibra would be a very wise move. He could forge a partnership with Gila for years. I believe we really need to get this guy.
sheva-gila
08-08-2006, 06:34
kaka 24y
ibra 24
gila24
gourcouff20
this is great man if dida will leave us than we need buffon, as for the RB gallas this vould be enough i think ....
Nirvana FC
08-08-2006, 07:13
We'll never pay so much for Zlatan.. he desperately wants to leave.. Juve will HAVE to sell him. Tevez might come if we are selling Dida to Corinthians.. it's a nice bargain.
Not only Tevez, but Masc too... It's the latest rumour here in SP. Tevez+Masc for Dida+cash.
Pretty good!
It'll be a more than perfect offseason if in the end we get Buffon, Gallas, Masc, Tevez and Ibrahimovic.
:3band:
Channel 4 say that we're submitting a £17.8 MILLION bid for Ibrahimovich !!! I mean what the hell is that ! Talk about being ripped off, he's not worth anything like that kind of money. People have been moaning that Diarra isn't worth what they are asking, then they should start moaning about this too as Zlatan is well over priced. The article even suggests Juve are holding out for £21 million for him ! When has he ever done anything to justify this price tag ? Don't talk to me about potential for heaven's sake, he's not that good !
Gilardino was expensive but that was on the back of a hatful of goals over a few seasons and then continued some good goal scoring form with us. This is insane if we even contemplate giving Juve that much. For that price let him go to Inter and let us go for Tevez and Martins or Suazo.
I'm so angry that i can't be bothered to post the link !
Nirvana, if that rumour is true i would be over the moon and on cloud nine all at once :D
zlatanov
08-08-2006, 07:35
Nirvana, if that rumour is true i would be over the moon and on cloud nine all at once :D
isn't that like the same place :D
I guess Mascherano is indeed an alternative to Diarra given that Real have stepped up their interest in the Mali mid and now Lyon is taking ful advantage of the situation by constantly raising their demands.
Nirvana FC
08-08-2006, 07:36
I honestly think Ibrahimovic can solve some of our attacking problems. He is not the second coming of MVB as some say but he is skilled, will provide a physical presence in the box - something we need -, and I believe in Ibrahimovic-Gilardino.
If 28 mill euro is too much or not only time will tell.
milan_stip
08-08-2006, 07:55
Today or tommorrow zlatan ibrahimovic officially will become milan player :guw: :guw: .transfer from juve 28m.(not a rumour)
zlatanov
08-08-2006, 08:01
I have merged the "28M for Ibra" thread with this one.
Sweendogs
08-08-2006, 08:05
I have a very good feeling that he will not be coming to milan, if anything hes going to Inter or staying our management has not been doing the right thing lately and I will be very surprised if they sign or anyone else
Arildonardo
08-08-2006, 09:08
Zlatan Ibrahimovic
Ibrahim Ba
You see? :dcool:
Dr Milano
08-08-2006, 09:33
im really excited just ready for him to join milan and i want to see him in a milan shirt come on zlatan
Dr Milano
08-08-2006, 09:44
and seeing this video clip ... http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-922965428911294251&q=zlatan
i would give that money right thier and then this video is quality i think if zlatan can get 15 - 20 goals but mainly do things like this ... hes the man ... un stoppable i want gila to score more next season
Not only Tevez, but Masc too... It's the latest rumour here in SP. Tevez+Masc for Dida+cash.
Pretty good!
It'll be a more than perfect offseason if in the end we get Buffon, Gallas, Masc, Tevez and Ibrahimovic.
:3band:
I can't think of anything that would please me more. Tevez and Mascherano would be perfect players for Milan. They both play with skill, desire and heart! :p017:
As for Ibra, I've never been a big fan because he hasn't shown me much heart or desire. His skills are massive and unquestioned, but I don't know if the intangibles are there. Obviously, if Milan has the confidence to pay such a price for him or even to add him to the squad, I will trust their judgement and welcome him with open arms. Maybe playing for Milan is what he needs to realize his potential. We shall see what happens.
Today or tommorrow zlatan ibrahimovic officially will become milan player :guw: :guw: .transfer from juve 28m.(not a rumour)
Source please? Could be true, but still a rumour as of now.
GavinMilan
08-08-2006, 12:19
All these Ibra replies make me remembered how most of us once thought of Pippo
GilAttack [11]
08-08-2006, 12:33
If the transfer fee is 40M euros (I read some reports throwing that number), talk about overpaying.
Channel 4 say that we're submitting a £17.8 MILLION bid for Ibrahimovich !!! I mean what the hell is that ! Talk about being ripped off, he's not worth anything like that kind of money. People have been moaning that Diarra isn't worth what they are asking, then they should start moaning about this too as Zlatan is well over priced. The article even suggests Juve are holding out for £21 million for him ! When has he ever done anything to justify this price tag ? Don't talk to me about potential for heaven's sake, he's not that good !
the thing with Ibra is that, for some reason, perhaps to strike some fear into the opposition, Capello constantly talked him up while he was at Juve in his first season. that's where we got all those "next MVB" comments, I remember thinking that when he needs a contract renewal they are going to get screwed because Capello was just pumping air into an already pretty big head with his praise.
His reps been built by words, not on the pitch actions. He's certainly worth a good 12m, just given his experience and skill, but he's horribley over-rated.
Today or tommorrow zlatan ibrahimovic officially will become milan player .transfer from juve 28m.(not a rumour)
Source please? Could be true, but still a rumour as of now.
I read this somewhere too but can’t remember where. Hope this is true as Juve is now linked with Iaquinta.
I’m excited. Milan’s future will be Gila, Kaka, Gourcuff & Ibra. :5schal:
If this happens, then it might show a start of better relationship with the Old Lady…they’ve also asked on Simic’s status.
And I hope we’ll get Buffon too.
Torres will come eventually. Milan is keeping quiet so as not to draw attention and offers…and then we’ll snap him up unexpectedly.
All these Ibra replies make me remembered how most of us once thought of Pippo
But at least Inzaghi scored goals.
Juventus want £20 million for him now, apparently the £17.8 million is only as far as we're prepared to go for him. Which makes me feel sooo much better :rollani:
Juventus also want to start a bidding war, with any luck now that Toni looks all set to stay at Fiorentina, Inter will come in and buy Ibrahimovich. I can only hope :5ok:
Two seasons in serie A one half good 16 goals and one horrible yeah that´s worth 17.8 mil Euro, how in the hell can we Milan the super club take a player that failed at Juve and see him as a replacement for Sheva. I live in Sweden and have from the beginning seen Zlatan from Malmö to Juve and he´s hyped beyond belief. The emperors new clothes anyone :5milan:
KingHenry®
08-08-2006, 16:19
But at least Inzaghi scored goals.
Juventus want £20 million for him now, apparently the £17.8 million is only as far as we're prepared to go for him. Which makes me feel sooo much better :rollani:
Juventus also want to start a bidding war, with any luck now that Toni looks all set to stay at Fiorentina, Inter will come in and buy Ibrahimovich. I can only hope :5ok:
what if inter take him, and milan are left wondering and buy NO ONE???
Juve rejected Inter's bid today (Calciomercato)
So they won't get Toni nor Ibra :p017: Forza Milan!
Two seasons in serie A one half good 16 goals and one horrible yeah that´s worth 17.8 mil Euro, how in the hell can we Milan the super club take a player that failed at Juve and see him as a replacement for Sheva. I live in Sweden and have from the beginning seen Zlatan from Malmö to Juve and he´s hyped beyond belief. The emperors new clothes anyone :5milan:
its 17.8M POUNDS which make it worse. He had a decent 1st season and a very lousy 2nd. I watched him so many times and he never impressed me a single time. i am trying to understand where does all these supporters of Ibra get their impression of him from...must be some stupid sites that hype him up to be a good player.
All these Ibra replies make me remembered how most of us once thought of Pippo
nah, i dislike Pippo before he came to Milan because of his attitude and dirty diving antics. but he soon changed after he came and keep his ugly side away.
Pippo have a good record before coming here and is a talented goal poacher so i don't see why anybody have problems with his potential to do well here. But the problem with Ibra is i haven't seen enough talents on display and his stats doesn't speak well of him. A striker with only a single digit in goals scored in 1 season speak volume of his "talent" or basically the lack of. Even Tomasson scored more goals than that while playing as a sub for us. If he can't get 20 goals a season then i see no point in paying so much for him.
Billy1969
08-08-2006, 18:19
We're lucky Juventus refused Inter's bid for Ibrahimovic or we would have been beaten like for Crespo, WTF is our management doing?
KingHenry®
08-08-2006, 20:34
i think we really need to keep calm
gettin angry and pissed off is not going to help matters but i need 2 get my aggression out so what are they playing at??
The reason Ibra is going to cost so much is not only because of his unquestionable skill as a football player. It is also because: 1) He is young and can ensure any club that buys him a long term solution (between 8-10 years); 2) He is one of the few players that are PROVEN in serie a. Yes he may have had a less than impressive second season, but ask any serie a player or coach and they will tell you that he has what it takes to play in serie a. In fact, our own Costacurta has come out and said that he would choose Ibra over Crespo. Even Ancelotti has made comments about Ibra being a good addition to the squad should a deal be concluded; 3) THe club that took a chance on him was Juve. They paid around 11.5M to secure his transfer from Ajax. At that time, nobody knew whether or not he would succeed in serie a and I'm pretty sure that not many clubs would have been willing to pay that much and take such a big risk on him. Now Juve is entitled to make some money on him arent they? So if they sell him for 17.8 or 20M, they would have made a good profit and I think that is only reasonable.
Yes, Ibrahimovic is overhyped. Yes, he does not score many goals. Yes, he still needs to improve. But believe me, he is a massive talent and with another two or three years of top level football with us, he can develop to become one of the best strikers in the world.
If Capello kept him in starting 11 even when Ibra wasn't at his best, and if we are prepared to offer 30 M Euro for him, then Ibra certanly has what is needed. Remember his first season and you will see how good he is. In his second season in Juventus i think he had some personal problems, or problems with his team mates or the menagment. This Ibra attitude, and not his quality as a player or scorer, is the greatest concern we should have.
24 years old player who was a starter in Juventus, and who's our main target and on whom we are prepared to spend most of the money we got from Sheva, is a great footballer without any doubts.
Have in mind that we as amateurs, and Capello and Ancelotti as experts, have different views on things. And i would trust them much more than i would trust myself in picking a player for the team.
I even concider ourselves lucky for bying him, if we buy him at all, at this prize. If Juve didn't go down to B, and if Ibra repeated his first serie A season, his prize would have been around 30-35 M pounds for sure.
And if his first season was great and his second season bad, what makes us think his third, fourth and fifth season will be the same as his second one and not as his first one.
If Inzaghi's attitude changed when he came to Milan, Ibrahimovic's attitude may also change, so lets keep things positive and lets hope Ibrahimovic will come and bring us a lot of serie A and CL trophies with his goals.
tardissun
08-08-2006, 22:43
I don't understand why we haven't tried to go for Tevez at all.
At 28 mil Euros for Ibra, I'd rather see what Torres can go for.
If it were me, I'd spend Sheva's money on Tevez & Amelia. Sell Dida.
GilAttack [11]
08-08-2006, 22:52
I think something might still happen with Corinthians if its indeed true that Dida wants to go back to Brazil, to play for Timao.
its 17.8M POUNDS which make it worse. He had a decent 1st season and a very lousy 2nd. I watched him so many times and he never impressed me a single time. i am trying to understand where does all these supporters of Ibra get their impression of him from...must be some stupid sites that hype him up to be a good player.
Ohh my god that´s money well spent, well he´s a real step up from Shevchenko :rollani:
KingHenry®
09-08-2006, 05:04
']I think something might still happen with Corinthians if its indeed true that Dida wants to go back to Brazil, to play for Timao.
i hav my fingers crossed trust me
Dr Milano
09-08-2006, 09:08
i cant handle the tension anymore when will ibra sign are you guys mostly sure he will im still really excited
Tomorrow we got another meeting with Ibra's agent Mino Raiola . Hope that Juventus is going to be pleased with prize that milan is ready to pay , and Ibra joins milan i think we are ready to give juve 17.5 milion £
Dr Milano
09-08-2006, 09:19
Tomorrow we got another meeting with Ibra's agent Mino Raiola . Hope that Juventus is going to be pleased with prize that milan is ready to pay , and Ibra joins milan i think we are ready to give juve 17.5 milion £
so he may sign tommorow then right :guw: im biting my fingers ... and i think thier all going to be gone soon ... Ibra Join KNOW
Billy1969
09-08-2006, 11:10
If we fail to net a good result against Red Star tonight, I bet he won't sign and run to Inter like the mercenary he is.
I think the result tonight's game will have a big effect on the negotiations with Ibra tomorrow.
KingHenry®
09-08-2006, 11:33
I think the result tonight's game will have a big effect on the negotiations with Ibra tomorrow.
AND alot of other players, i think if we have a healthy lead tevez torres and buffon mite consider us
Dr M, how can you be so excited about Ibrahimovich ? :googly:
Lets hope we lose tonight and then he joins Inter, then we win the away leg and go through. That way everyone is happy ... well, i would be at least :D
sheva-gila
09-08-2006, 12:48
Dr M, how can you be so excited about Ibrahimovich ? :googly:
Lets hope we lose tonight and then he joins Inter, then we win the away leg and go through. That way everyone is happy ... well, i would be at least :D
take it easy mate how u can be so sure if we dont get Ibra who will join us TORRES ???? TEVEZ??? are u sure they will join us ???
Dr M, how can you be so excited about Ibrahimovich ? :googly:
Lets hope we lose tonight and then he joins Inter, then we win the away leg and go through. That way everyone is happy ... well, i would be at least :D
Lol I think winning would be more important than getting Ibra :w209:
Anywayz, I'm with Dr. M...I'm excited for Thursday and see what happens. Lol I'm prolly one of the converts. :neww:
I'll be converted if he scores 25 leagues goals in a season, works for the team and doesn't cause trouble :ilol:
I'll be converted if he scores 25 leagues goals in a season, works for the team and doesn't cause trouble :ilol:
work for the team? :55angel: He have been openly critised by his teammates and coaches for being selfish, he would never pass the ball to another teammates in a better position. :5horse:
GavinMilan
10-08-2006, 00:11
Well, I think Ibra has all the talents in the world. Hopefully, when he signs with Milan, he will get to realize all his skills
Maltese Charlie
10-08-2006, 00:24
I'll be converted if he scores 25 leagues goals in a season, works for the team and doesn't cause trouble :ilol:
Jim I really don't agree with you.
I'll be convertrd if he scores 25 AUTOGOALS in a season, ignoring the team and cause at least 5 fights with his teamates every match!!!!!!!!
because he is going to sign INTER. (today it will be officially)....lol :devf:
Is the signing already officially published?? ;)
I really hope that the big star or big surprise our management has promised to us is not Ibra!! :D
from calciomercato.com (10th august), translated by babelfish:
"Blow of market of the Inter, that it burns the competition of the Milan and Zlatan Ibrahimovic is made sure. The agreement with the Juventus has arrived in the night for a figure near 25 million euro. To the Swedish forward a contract of four years from 4,5 mln to season. Between today and tomorrow announcement and official presentation. Martins will be yielded in England."
We won from Inter on Bonera 1-0
We lose from Inter on Crespo 1-1
We lose from Inter on Ibra 1-2...
maybe Braida can focus on Torres? (altough I'm sure that the chance is really small..)
Ibrahimovic è dell'Inter!
08:00 del 10 agosto
Colpo di mercato dell'Inter, che brucia la concorrenza del Milan e si assicura Zlatan Ibrahimovic.
L'accordo con la Juventus è arrivato nella notte per una cifra vicina ai 25 milioni di euro. All'attaccante svedese un contratto di quattro anni da 4,5 mln a stagione. Tra oggi e domani annuncio e presentazione ufficiale.
Martins sarà ceduto in Inghilterra.
I wouldnt worry, we have amoroso and if we need another stiker we can still recall vieri :frustrat:
Ooooppss!
He's going to Inter. Errr... Can we have Adriano? Thank you very much.
GRE-NO-LI
10-08-2006, 02:17
Sources???????
GRE-NO-LI
10-08-2006, 02:20
Goddamned... we need to sign a top class striker, we cannot go on without replacing Shevchenko, that's unacceptable!!!!
Are there many other options than Tevez left on the market now?
Buffon or perhaps Amelia to replace Dida who moves home in exchange (with some money) for Tevez and Mascherano. That'll work!
It's official! (http://www.juventus.com/uk/news/detail.aspx?lml_language_id=0&trs_id=1370000&ID=8364)
Who will come to us now?
dictatornz
10-08-2006, 02:24
adriano, martins, recoba, cruz, crespo, ibra ...... seems excessive. id like 2 get adriano .... but i think they will sell cruz and martins :irritate: .... our search 4 a sheva replacement has been narrowed. it may seem like milan is missing the boat with transfers ... but im sure we r waiting 2 gt the ones we want :dcool:
GRE-NO-LI
10-08-2006, 02:25
We gotta move, that's all I know!
GRE-NO-LI
10-08-2006, 02:26
Adriano is way down overrated, he can't replace Shevchenko at all... my goodness, the board must react properly, and FAST!
Yep, it seems we're running out of time!
Also, how many forwards does Chelsea have now? And ManUtd are still looking to strenghten their strikeforce, right? This could be scary! :(
acmilanone
10-08-2006, 02:30
I think this is a good news for us. I don't want a player that is not supportive to his club when the club is having a hard time. I hope we will get the surprise that we're waiting for.
Yeah, I hope so too!
Also, Jim_UK'll be happy with this move! :D ;)
GRE-NO-LI
10-08-2006, 02:32
Well, my only hope is that our board must have some wild card to show on the right moment, as otherwise we'll be pretty fvcked up...
GRE-NO-LI
10-08-2006, 02:48
I'm not so optmistic since Galliani come with his traditional truckload of nonsense about our allmighty squad that doesn't need to replace his best player...
Guess it will be Tevez and Mascherano then......Diarra will go to Madrid
Graeme C
10-08-2006, 03:10
Offical Ibra signs for Inter!
Can't say I'm too sad. Never liked Zlatan. He and Inter deserve each other.
but who will be sheva's replacement now :(
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