View Full Version : Do you want Sheva back?
Considering our situation with Gila (probably sold) Paloschi (Loan) leaving us with Pato and Inzaghi as pure strikers. we need at least 2 new strikers. Maybe even 3. We are linked with lots of star players, Drogba Eto'o, etc it is unlikely we will get more than one of those starplayers what means we still need another back up. Next to Boriello I think Sheva has a chance to become that that back up player my question is do would want him back or not?
I'dd say yes, I'm a forgiving lad I know. If we get him for peanuts and on a heavily reduces salary (as a way of some penitence ;))
So would you guys mind having Sheva next to let's say Eto'o and Boriello?
I'm glad I'm not the only one anymore ;)
I was starting to feel like an outcast
t.gianni
26-05-2008, 12:34
If I were in the place of Galliani, I would sign him instantly. I think that most of the people who call him a traitor, do not have kids and a wife. When you have our own wife and kids you will realize their importance and significance.
Some people have doubts that Sheva's arrival will hamper Pato's progress. However I think that Sheva's experience at Milan will help Pato become a great player sooner. Also, I don't see any reason why they both can't play together since they are not like Gilardino/Pippo/Boriello. They are pure strikers and have good play-making abilities. By having both of them we can only increase the our creativity upfront along with Kaka and Seedorf.
If our line-up consists of Sheva, Pato, Pippo, Boriello and Paloschi; we would have a great strike force. Paloschi will be playing with us next year because Ancelotti has said that he will be our fifth striker.
Yes, of course. Sheva and Milan are united. He won't be like he was before but I am sure that he will much better than he has done in Chelsea.
I am not agree if Milan take Sheva and Boriello as we dont have our missing striker : big powerful striker. I vote for Sheva and Mario Gomez.
If I were in the place of Galliani, I would sign him instantly. I think that most of the people who call him a traitor, do not have kids and a wife. When you have our own wife and kids you will realize their importance and significance.
Some people have doubts that Sheva's arrival will hamper Pato's progress. However I think that Sheva's experience at Milan will help Pato become a great player sooner. Also, I don't see any reason why they both can't play together since they are not like Gilardino/Pippo/Boriello. They are pure strikers and have good play-making abilities. By having both of them we can only increase the our creativity upfront along with Kaka and Seedorf.
If our line-up consists of Sheva, Pato, Pippo, Boriello and Paloschi; we would have a great strike force. Paloschi will be playing with us next year because Ancelotti has said that he will be our fifth striker.
I agree with you but I do think we need another striker someone that is a star who can take on the pressure of carrying the milan attack. I think I would be unfair of us to put that kind of pressure on either Pato or Borriello nor is it realistic to expect that of the oldies such as Inzaghi since I don't think he can deliver a injured less season.
X and Pato should be our main strikers then Borriello.
Sheva and Inzaghi as our back ups both of them have sufficient experience and won't be nagging when they get benched.
Yes, of course. Sheva and Milan are united. He won't be like he was before but I am sure that he will much better than he has done in Chelsea.
I think it's impossible to do worse
Milan4ever
29-05-2008, 13:29
NO! We dont need other clubs wated overrated superstars. We need FRESH NEW players, NO Sheva, but probably that loser of a Galliani will get him anyway since he will almost come for free, thats what matters for the board.
I think it's impossible to do worse
Nothing is impossible, mate! :D
tardissun
29-05-2008, 19:11
It entirely depends on the cost. I'd say if his price tag is cheap enough or a loan, then yes. I'd rather spend big money on a big strong forward.
Bosniaco
29-05-2008, 20:36
I dont want him back, but at the same time I do. He gave me and Milan fans a lot of joy I cant forget that.
rosoneri_11
30-05-2008, 01:51
Of course i don't want back a 32 years old player!
Lebanese
30-05-2008, 02:16
Sheva still got it in him, he is useful, we will have a long way to play, plus i would love him tutoring Pato
We need young players, highly motivated and hungry for big triumphs and victories. Players we don't need are old and - as we call it in germany - already full. So we don't need Sheva!
t.gianni
30-05-2008, 12:11
For the poeple who say that Sheva is too old, don't forget that Zambrotta is also 31!
For the poeple who say that Sheva is too old, don't forget that Zambrotta is also 31!
and Maldini is 40 :grinser:
and Maldini is 40 :grinser:
And inzaghi is 34 reaching 35. Still scored more goals in a few matches than a 25 years old gilardino did in a whole season. :devf:
The only thing is the price and his pay, money is the whole issue now. I am willing to accept the traitor if he is going to come cheap else forget it. :p017:
t.gianni
30-05-2008, 14:23
Sheva's salary will be set according to our wage brackets. He wont be paid more than 4020000 million euros a year, which he has probably agreed to. He currently earns 7440000 million euros at Chelsea.
The only issue is with his transfer is with Chelsea. A sensible decision would be to get him on loan and create a situation similar to that of Crespo's.
There is plenty of reason I dont' want a 32 year old player from a english reserve team that is on his way down in his career. Some people could say it is hard to get further down in his career, but I believe it is possible. Extravagant wages to a finished player that just want to hang out with his old friends again? Why not? I am free and willing to come on really low wages.
I dont think he is a finished player. You dont go from being the best striker in the world to being a reserve player in just 2 years. He is not doing well because he doesnt suit Chelsea and their style of play and the coach does not have faith in him. If he joined Man Utd or Arsenal, he probably would have continued where he left off at Milan. As Ancelotti once told Crespo, "You dont forget how to play football."
By the way, Crespo is a great example. Remember when he joined us in 2004/05 from Chelsea? Everyone was saying he was a finished player---then look what happened.
When all is said and done, Im still against getting Sheva, not because he is of no value, but because we already have Pato, and if we get Dinho, then there is absolutely no need for someone like Sheva. We need a good targetman, Drogba, Etoo, Adebayor anyone?
t.gianni
30-05-2008, 22:52
When all is said and done, Im still against getting Sheva, not because he is of no value, but because we already have Pato, and if we get Dinho, then there is absolutely no need for someone like Sheva. We need a good targetman, Drogba, Etoo, Adebayor anyone?
I respect your opinion but why do you think Sheva's arrival will hurt Pato, especially since Ronaldinho's move looks more unlikely by the day?
It depends on the system we use. At present we use a 2 AM 1 CF system. That would be:
Kaka Seedorf
Striker (?Boriello)
Pato can slot in either as one of the two AM's or the CF. If R10 comes, then we look like this:
Kaka R10
Striker
Pato will be sub for either Kaka, R10, or the Striker. And of course, Seedorf will be sulking on the bench. Now where can Sheva fit in? If he comes and moves above Pato in the pecking order, then that means less time/chance for Pato, no?
Either way, the point is that we need a targetman, not a support striker like Sheva.
t.gianni
30-05-2008, 23:50
Formations change as the players come and go. Considering the good amount players we will be bringing in, I don't see any reason why the formation won't change next year either. May be if we change to 1 AM, 2 FW formation, Sheva will surely be able to play along with Pato/Pippo/Boriello/Paloschi.
And again, it is very much likely that Ronaldinho won't join us either.
Imagine if Pato's game goes to hell. We wouldn't have a player to play like him. Sheva can fill the role of being Pato's sub.
Also, Sheva is a classic finisher. He can use his head and feet really well and is strong enough to handle Serie A defenders. Why can't he be seen as a target man? I mean, in the modern game, he is our highest goal scorer. :pr115:
I dont think he is a finished player. You dont go from being the best striker in the world to being a reserve player in just 2 years.
with lost physcial fitness, confidence and match practice a player can lose a lot. It was not like he was stellar just before he left either.
He is not doing well because he doesnt suit Chelsea and their style of play and the coach does not have faith in him. If he joined Man Utd or Arsenal, he probably would have continued where he left off at Milan. As Ancelotti once told Crespo, "You dont forget how to play football."
Tell that to Gilardino. The coach had plenty of faith in him, he played a lot early on, but his performances didn't warrant he would continue to start. It is the second year that he got moved down to playing reserves. If that is not a declining player, I don't know what is. It is VERY questionable that he would just perform with those other clubs.
By the way, Crespo is a great example. Remember when he joined us in 2004/05 from Chelsea? Everyone was saying he was a finished player---then look what happened.
Everyone didn't say that at all. I personally pointed out that he scored a goal every second game in Chelsea despite seldom playing whole games. He was also younger. In the end his contribution to us is overrated since he scored in the last stage of UCL. His scoring in serie A wasn't good.
When all is said and done, Im still against getting Sheva, not because he is of no value,
He is a COST. His wages is something that could be used for something else.
And again, it is very much likely that Ronaldinho won't join us either.
It is very likely he will. Ambrosini even said something that was more or less saying that he will come.
t.gianni
31-05-2008, 12:51
It is very likely he will. Ambrosini even said something that was more or less saying that he will come.
Berlu had also said that we do not need him.
Berlu Jr. has said that buying Ronaldinho would be a waste.
Galliani still maintains that the gap between Milan and Barca is too high.
If not more, these statements are as credible and reliable as Ambrosini's statement.
Berlu said that we dont need him before Ronaldinho price dropped (from last year). He is still Berlu's fav player. When Ronaldinho price decreased deeply, Milan annonced their interest to this player.
I am quite sure that Ronaldinho will come to Milan. Berlu will pay quickly the difference what Milan offer and Barca demand if the transfer market this summer is near its ending.
t.gianni
31-05-2008, 13:05
with lost physcial fitness, confidence and match practice a player can lose a lot.
That is a value judgement. Even he can lose alot doesn't mean that he can't come back either.
It was not like he was stellar just before he left either.
A player's form is never constant. Also Sheva's form had been more consistent for us than any other striker we had. If we bring him in the Milan atmosphere and our midfielders supply him selflessly he will return to his form. Chelsea neither had a good atmosphere nor their players were selfless.
He is a COST. His wages is something that could be used for something else.
His wages would be as high as Gattuso's/Pirlo's/Seedorf's. You should have complained about these's players wages too when they weren't playing well for us. If he scores goals like he did, his wages will not be a problem for us. In the last 2 years I have heard our management whine about only 2 player's wages which would be of Dida's and Ronaldo's. I am sure Sheva is not as patchy as Dida or as weak as Ronaldo.
t.gianni
31-05-2008, 13:18
Berlu said that we dont need him before Ronaldinho price dropped (from last year). He is still Berlu's fav player. When Ronaldinho price decreased deeply, Milan annonced their interest to this player.
I am quite sure that Ronaldinho will come to Milan. Berlu will pay quickly the difference what Milan offer and Barca demand if the transfer market this summer is near its ending.
Berlu: “He (Ronaldinho) was never really one of our objectives because we know that the squad didn’t need a player with his characteristics"
http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=617178
11/03/2008 07:50
Berlu: “As for Ronaldinho, well, to behonest I am no longer interested in him.”
http://www.goal.com/en-india/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=685713
06/05/2008 19:14
Berlu: "I have never been certain we needed Ronaldinho, and at the moment I don't really think we do,"
http://www.goal.com/EN/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=683959
05/05/2008 09:18
The last two statements are pretty recent. His opinion about Ronaldinho has changed. Also, after these comments I have not come across him saying that we need Ronaldinho.
That being said, if Barca's demands meet our demands, then he will come for certain. But like Galliani has said the gap is just too big. Also, didn't Ronaldinho's brother meet Shinawatra in Bangkok?
And where is the post about Ronalindho's price which dropped from last year? (news about a club or few clubs would use something from the rules to buy Ronaldinho in very cheap price compare to his last year price).
What I remember, Berlusconi made the first statement official after winning against one club (I forget which club is that) and the Ronaldinho's price appeared after that comment.
About the two last comments, I wont believe what Berlus said there (if its true Berlu said it) so easily as Milan was/is negotiating with Barca and we all know that there is still no agreement between the two clubs. It's about market. If Milan show their interest intensively then Barca will win (Milan will pay the gap).
It's unlogic for me if Berlu doent have interest anymore in Ronaldinho. We all know how crazy Berlusconi last year and we all know how tough Berlusconi with his opinion/choice.
Kris, there is no doubt that the Sheva of Chelsea is no where near the Sheva of Milan, but you cannot discount the importance of the team environment and the "fit" between a player and a team. Yes, Sheva has lost the confidence and physical ability, but given the right environment, he can regain all of that and come back to being a top class player (albeit only for a few years due to his age).
How was the Andrea Pirlo of Inter Milan. Was he a finished player? What about the Clarence Seedorf that played for Inter. Was he finished? What about Ronaldinho, would you say he is finished? What about Ronaldo when he moved from Madrid to us last year and scored some key goals, Madrid thought he was finished, but was he? If not for injury, he would have been a key figure this year too.
My point is that class is permanent. A proven world class player may have difficulties playing in a team or league that doesnt suit his game, but that doesnt make him a "finished" entitity. I dont agree with pursuing Sheva, but if he finds the right environment (ie team or manager or league) I have no doubt that at the age of 31 he can still perform at the highest level.
Kaka--7thUCL
01-06-2008, 23:20
id take sheva back in a second idc about his age.. a players age shudnt realli matter if hes in good form, but sheva is both getting old and currently in poor form, but he can find his form in milan, and out of respect he shud retire in milan
That is a value judgement. Even he can lose alot doesn't mean that he can't come back either.
It ain't easy, it is far from easy and quickness is really hard to get back when you pass the 30s.
A player's form is never constant. Also Sheva's form had been more consistent for us than any other striker we had.
Currently it is consistantly bad. I find it naive to think it will suddenly become god just because he comes here. It is possible, but IMO unlikely.
If we bring him in the Milan atmosphere and our midfielders supply him selflessly he will return to his form. Chelsea neither had a good atmosphere nor their players were selfless.
They are a really good team that creates plenty of opportunities. clearly we have not scored a lot recently. Now what makes it likely that the player failing to score ni chelsea will succeed to score with us, when our strikers failed. do we pass some special passes that only sheva can put in goal?
His wages would be as high as Gattuso's/Pirlo's/Seedorf's. You should have complained about these's players wages too when they weren't playing well for us.
I am a bit unsure from were you are getting this. Shevchenko earns MORE than twice as much as the players you mentioned. If anything, Pirlo is underpayed.
I would like to see Sheva back in Milan but only if we get him for free(on a loan) because i think he still has it in him, class is permanent and i think our staff can make him great again our style of play suits him also. If we buy him it doesn't mean we don't need another striker we still have to find a replacement for Pippo in the likes of Drogba, Gomez, Benzema etc.
Egoistka
06-06-2008, 04:46
I want Sheva back, even if we pay for him...he worths it. He will find himself again, bcoz he knows how to play in Milan and in Seria A :)
rosoneri_11
06-06-2008, 06:38
I don't want traitors back! And i don't wont 33 years old players for Milan! We need to get rid of grannies we had a lot of them. We need young players not finished players.
t.gianni
06-06-2008, 10:54
It ain't easy, it is far from easy and quickness is really hard to get back when you pass the 30s.
With right treatment he can come back. You also have to remmember that since he did not play a lot,(due to any reason) his body has suffered little wear and tear. He won't be playing as often as he did with us before.
Currently it is consistantly bad. I find it naive to think it will suddenly become god just because he comes here. It is possible, but IMO unlikely.
It is consistently bad because he is playing at Chelsea. How do you even start to equate our players with chelsea players? How to do you equate selfish and arrogant players like Lampard and Ballack with Kaka? Also, in attack, there is no similarity between English and Italian styles of play. There will be a big difference for him between playing at Chelsea and Milan.
They are a really good team that creates plenty of opportunities. clearly we have not scored a lot recently. Now what makes it likely that the player failing to score ni chelsea will succeed to score with us, when our strikers failed. do we pass some special passes that only sheva can put in goal?
Its again the difference between the styles of play in England and Italy. English forwards have to be like bulls ramming towards the goal. In Italy forwards have to be a little more creative. And if a players fails in an English team, it absolutely doesn't mean he will fail in an Italian team. Sheva is used to playing with us. I think our passes are special too. Any striker in the world would be more than happy to receive passes from Pirlo and Kaka (the best support players in the world). Along with them, we have Seedorf and also Ambrosini (to a little extent) who are pretty good.
I am a bit unsure from were you are getting this. Shevchenko earns MORE than twice as much as the players you mentioned. If anything, Pirlo is underpayed.
I know he earns around 7 to 8 million euros at Chelsea. But at Milan wages are set according to wage brackets with the highest being at 4020000 euros a year. Pirlo, Gattuso, Seedorf, Nesta, etc have been earning this amount of money till now. Kaka gets between 8 - 9 million euros. If Sheva comes he will have to accept a pay cut and earn 4020000 euros a year. Galliani and Berlusconi has spoken in the past where they said that Sheva will have accept a pay-cut.
Giancarlo
08-06-2008, 04:26
For one, Sheva is playing bad because of the way Chelsea is structured and the fact that they have one of the most arrogant playing styles I have ever seen. Shevchenko is a creative forward that simply isn't suited for England, and I think he'll have something to prove in Italy. He'll have to apologize to us fans for leaving, but I wouldn't mind seeing him back. Mind you, on loan... you know kinda like what Riquelme did. I'm sure some Boca fans called him a traitor too when he went to Spain. Boca got him back on a loan and when he re-established himself they got him back on full time status. It all depends on what he does on loan. We should put money for a great striker like Mario Gomez...
And please, no real milan fan would ever compare Milan to Chelsea. The styles are completely different.
t.gianni
08-06-2008, 13:17
Well, to all the Sheva-haters: he probably won't come back since Chelsea at this moment are unwilling to sell him or send him on a loan to us. Rejoice! :mute:
I think Chelsea will make him hatch eggs or go to golf tournaments. I can't understand why Chelsea would want to keep Sheva for another season. My day is ruined. :moan:
http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=727656
Doesn't make sense that Chelsea allows Drogba to talk but not Sheva?
t.gianni
08-06-2008, 14:40
I think Chelsea don't want to lose players anymore like they did when Veron and Crespo left. I think they want us to buy Sheva outright rather than get him loan.
Also, Sheva's position depends upon Chelsea's new coach.
Maybe but like a coach :D no I really respect Sheva but he really disappointed me when he leave us !
Again, his signing begs the question---where will he play? If we end up getting Dinho, then we have Kaka/Dinho with Seedorf and maybe Pato who can be subs. If we get Ade, then we play Kaka with Pato (as second striker) and Ade. Would Sheva be happy to sit on the bench? If he came and played well or pulled strings, then that might end up with Pato spending more time on the bench---which will not be good for his development. I think the Shevchenko saga should probably end here unless he can be of real use to our squad.
Giancarlo
08-07-2008, 21:05
Good question, rt9. Maybe he should just accept there is no room for him anymore. Pato and Adebayor would most likely play in the 4-3-1-2 formation... if Sheva did come back he would at most be a substitute... we can't let Pato spend too much time on the bench... he must play as much as he can and I think it may be best to put Sheva behind us.
We must not forget we also have the older Inzaghi and Borriello in the squad... so 5 strikers? Probably a bit too much.
Let's get Sheva back in 5 years and make him our Ukraine/Russian scout :)
From a purely footballing standpoint....NO SHEVA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJaRJe-pT8c
No further explanation necessary :o
ACMILAN1983
09-07-2008, 02:52
I wouldn't mind him back on loan as long as we still get one of Adebayor or Dinho. We've got Borri back and with one of those two we'd have a strong attack, which Sheva wouldn't be relied on too heavily.
^^^ If we get him on loan and have to pay his wages...then no.
ACMILAN1983
10-07-2008, 02:54
^^^ If we get him on loan and have to pay his wages...then no.
True, that's a problem, but at a cut salary I'd definitely consider it.
Then Paloschi can go out on loan to develop.
Loaning out Paloschi... Very interesting. Very interesting indeed.
if the question is: "do you want sheva back?" then my answer is no.
if the question is: "do you mind if sheva come back?", then my answer is depend on how much do milan has to pay.
We should definitely be loaning out Paloschi this season. For now we have Borrielo, Pato, Pippo, Paloschi. When we get the big name striker then Paloschi should be able to go out on loan. It would be best for his development as I really don't trust Carlo's ability to develop him properly.
As far as I remember, Paloschi will be loaned if we get a new striker (according to Galliani).
Last news are that he will come beck!
I'd love Sheva coming back!!!!
I bet you he can do well again, that's my humble feeling, which was proved at his first joining, Pippo and Nesta's coming, as well as Rui and Gila's.
Back to the topic, Sheva can easily fit in, good header, good positioning. Adebayor is not bad, but what he did for Gunners inludes some box-edge flip overs and draw outs which happen to be the job of... Kaka. Btw, don't put Kaka at the winger, neither Pato, bringing Abate can fulfil this. Chelsea bought Sheva thinking he was the one at age 24, 25, rely on a lot pace to open space. Sheva was not like that when he left Milan. Adebayor would cost us what we paid for Kaka and Pato combined, Sheva can win us some time to find the deal of a young Bierhoff.
Giancarlo
12-07-2008, 20:42
I've changed my mind. I know I do that sometimes. I don't want Sheva back. And I don't appreciate how he backstabbed Milan. Adebayor is a strong center forward that we need....
By the way, if we get Adebayor for 17 million pounds (20 million euros) he'd be roughly the same as Pato if I recall correctly.
Rayno_acm
13-07-2008, 06:10
I've changed my mind. I know I do that sometimes. I don't want Sheva back. And I don't appreciate how he backstabbed Milan. Adebayor is a strong center forward that we need....
By the way, if we get Adebayor for 17 million pounds (20 million euros) he'd be roughly the same as Pato if I recall correctly.
Oh really??!! :nunu:
If Sheva backstabbed us, what would you say about what's doing to Arsenal that walking sti...err, I mean Adebayor? :wth:
Apart from the fact that he left us, Sheva's always been loyal to us. Always!!! He had never said a bad word for Milan. He would never say such a thing as "pay me as Henry and I'll play like Henry".
If now that walking stick is betraying Arsenal, what makes you think he'd not betray us after a couple of years? :nunu: He even said, that he prefers Barca, cuz we won't play in CL. So be it.
Adebayor is not strong, he is tall. That 30 goals for Arsenal can't convince me, even if I play with likes of Cesc, Hleb, Rosicky, Flamini, Eduardo and so on, I will score them. :o
Berbatov is 10 times better than the walking stick. So sorry, that we can't buy him...If we need to buy some powerful striker, we need someone like Drogba, Eto'O, even Gomez. The only advantage of Adebayor is the fact, that he's relatively young. But we don't need anymore a young striker, cuz we already have him, Pato. He can score 20+ goals per season, he scored 9 for 17 games. Less than a half of season. We even have another one as Paloschi, who scored 4 goals in 9 games (don't make me tell you in how much of them he was a sub...).
So now a little bit of experience won't hurt us, and since Pippo won't be able to play more than 20 games per season, a return of Sheva could only benefit us, cuz Sheva is younger and stronger than Pippo. :bri: :stuckup:
What has Sheva really got to offer us? Whether you like Adebayor or not, he is young, confident, strong and on the rise. None of which can be said for Sheva.
If it were my choice, I wouldnt have either. BUT beggers cant be choosers.
Giancarlo
13-07-2008, 11:50
Oh really??!! :nunu:
If Sheva backstabbed us, what would you say about what's doing to Arsenal that walking sti...err, I mean Adebayor? :wth:
Apart from the fact that he left us, Sheva's always been loyal to us. Always!!! He had never said a bad word for Milan. He would never say such a thing as "pay me as Henry and I'll play like Henry".
He left for the money and that shows how much character he really has. Chelsea offered him a huge contract, and he left because of the money and you can't deny that.
Adebayor is not strong, he is tall. That 30 goals for Arsenal can't convince me, even if I play with likes of Cesc, Hleb, Rosicky, Flamini, Eduardo and so on, I will score them. :o
Oh yes Adebayor is strong, and he does convince me...
If we need to buy some powerful striker, we need someone like Drogba, Eto'O, even Gomez. The only advantage of Adebayor is the fact, that he's relatively young. But we don't need anymore a young striker, cuz we already have him, Pato. He can score 20+ goals per season, he scored 9 for 17 games. Less than a half of season. We even have another one as Paloschi, who scored 4 goals in 9 games (don't make me tell you in how much of them he was a sub...).
Of course I'd prefer Eto'o... but that's not going to happen I don't think. Adebayor is young, but he has a bit more experience than Gomez... wait a minute...
You're claiming we need experience yet you name Mario Gomes who is younger than Adebayor? what in the world?
Rayno_acm
13-07-2008, 22:23
He left for the money and that shows how much character he really has. Chelsea offered him a huge contract, and he left because of the money and you can't deny that.
Well, I thought I wrote "Apart from..." :dontkn:
It's pretty harsh to judge somebody from one single act of his life, especially when every other act of that person shows the opposite... :bri:
...
Of course I'd prefer Eto'o... but that's not going to happen I don't think. Adebayor is young, but he has a bit more experience than Gomez... wait a minute...
You're claiming we need experience yet you name Mario Gomes who is younger than Adebayor? what in the world?
I prefer Gomez over the walking stick, cuz Gomez is really strong (for his age), has a better shot and better skills. And is not that arrogant.
And finally, it doesn't matter whether you like it or not, but the latest news say that till Wednessday (when the team gathers) R10 and Sheva will be Milan players. These days Galliani met Abramovich in Sardegna on Abramovich's yacht (there are some photos in the net), where Abramovich had agreed to let Sheva go back to us. :nana: :devf:
Giancarlo
13-07-2008, 23:29
It's pretty harsh to judge somebody from one single act of his life, especially when every other act of that person shows the opposite... :bri:
Sure. But it depends on the magnitude of the action. How much does that action impact others?
I prefer Gomez over the walking stick, cuz Gomez is really strong (for his age), has a better shot and better skills. And is not that arrogant.
And what was that atrocious display he did in the Euro Cup? He totally lost his cool.
And finally, it doesn't matter whether you like it or not, but the latest news say that till Wednessday (when the team gathers) R10 and Sheva will be Milan players. These days Galliani met Abramovich in Sardegna on Abramovich's yacht (there are some photos in the net), where Abramovich had agreed to let Sheva go back to us. :nana: :devf:
That would be terrible...
I'm fine with Ronaldinho... okay... but we still need a real striker. And not another 32 year old washed up striker that is out of form. Why not get a younger striker? Even Drogba would be a better choice than Sheva. Hah! I hope that Galliani met Abra for Drogba, not Sheva.
Sure. But it depends on the magnitude of the action. How much does that action impact others?
It's said that, we would not that grateful for health if we never got sick, We would never be that much thankful to be wealthy, if we're never been poor.
In this case, think of how grateful we are, having Kaka who help us through the painful season after Shev gone.
So I'll take that as a positive impact.
And what was that atrocious display he did in the Euro Cup? He totally lost his cool.
That would be terrible...
I'm fine with Ronaldinho... okay... but we still need a real striker. And not another 32 year old washed up striker that is out of form. Why not get a younger striker? Even Drogba would be a better choice than Sheva. Hah! I hope that Galliani met Abra for Drogba, not Sheva.
Yes, I agree mate. That's why, I'm not behind those sheva to be the main striker, but more of him as a 4th striker. And since now Italian Clubs may have 2 non EU, I think Shevas arrival is not that hurting don't u think ?
It's said that, we would not that grateful for health if we never got sick, We would never be that much thankful to be wealthy, if we're never been poor.
In this case, think of how grateful we are, having Kaka who help us through the painful season after Shev gone.
I like this point. Very well put. And it's also important to keep reminding ourselves that becuse we keep forgetting that.
Giancarlo
13-07-2008, 23:45
It's said that, we would not that grateful for health if we never got sick, We would never be that much thankful to be wealthy, if we're never been poor.
In this case, think of how grateful we are, having Kaka who help us through the painful season after Shev gone.
So I'll take that as a positive impact.
Yes you are right. Kaka did step it up quite a bit, as did Inzaghi... they gave us glory even when we lost our biggest striker... but as far as Sheva... I don't know.
Yes, I agree mate. That's why, I'm not behind those sheva to be the main striker, but more of him as a 4th striker. And since now Italian Clubs may have 2 non EU, I think Shevas arrival is not that hurting don't u think ?
Our 4th striker would be Borriello... that's why I want a strong CF in Milan's squad. I don't think Sheva would have space... he would be the 5th striker.
Drogba/Adebayor - Pato - Inzaghi - Borriello
Milano84
13-07-2008, 23:53
i think borriello may well be out if sheva or adebayor or drogba arrive. he keeps claiming he wants first team football. i cant blame him. he's no real use to us on bench.
Our 4th striker would be Borriello... that's why I want a strong CF in Milan's squad. I don't think Sheva would have space... he would be the 5th striker.
Drogba/Adebayor - Pato - Inzaghi - Borriello
Well, I would love to have Borriello as the 4th striker :)
but after that much hype on him last season, I don't think Borri or his agent will accept that role.
Let's hope for the best :)
Giancarlo
13-07-2008, 23:58
i think borriello may well be out if sheva or adebayor or drogba arrive. he keeps claiming he wants first team football. i cant blame him. he's no real use to us on bench.
Unless we play with two strikers...
I still say we need at least 4 strikers... Inzaghi as you say can't play every match... he's is getting older...
Inzaghi may not play so much domestic matches, but may focus more on the UEFA Cup...
Rayno_acm
18-07-2008, 02:07
I've always knew that Geylianni is a big fat liar... :angf: :angf: :angf:
t.gianni
18-07-2008, 08:35
As much as I would like Sheva to be back, I really don't think there is enough space for him. I am really sorry for his situation but the mistake he made when he left us simply isn't correctable anymore. If Sheva doesn't come in the Summer Mercato, then Sheva will never join us again.
RIP SHEVA!
Giancarlo
18-07-2008, 10:45
I've always knew that Geylianni is a big fat liar... :angf: :angf: :angf:
How is that?
And yes I agree, this is Sheva's last chance. We're not going to get him when he is 33 or 34.
rossonerka
19-07-2008, 14:39
No i dont like!!!
WELCOME BACK SHEVA
all of you that don't like Sheva, dont forgot what Sheva do for us.
I understand when he went in Chelsea, because people are preofesional, and he was payed doblle in Chelsea. Also his wife want to leave...people, you know how are wifes...
WELCOME BACK SHEVA!!
together we will enter a new age of glory and prosperity!
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