Summer mercato 2009

Originally Posted by Christian

Zambrotta/Nesta/Thiago Silva/Jankulovski, could be very effective against more defensive oponents; Santacroce/Nesta/Thiago Silva/Zambrotta, would provide better cover. I don't think we should completly drop Jankulovski as a LB, he might not be the best defender, but he's probably one of the best in the world going forward, and that could be usefull against certain oponents.

Christian, there are many LBs who go forward better than Janku nowadays ... it's why he should be used in midfield when we need to play on the sides (so especially against small teams who defend with 9-10 players).

Against these teams, we could play Janku on the left with Abate on the right ... And in the same way, R80 can be used in the same kind of role on the left, like Janku, the only difference is that Janku will go forward and stay on his left foot to send the ball in the box, whereas R80 will more often go into the box with his right foot.

Originally Posted by mihan

Again I just CANNOT STAND people say Dinho out, Janku out. If you can't see how Dinho is dangerous, you must be blind. Make him happy and let him play, nobody else has that flair. Btw, if you're already asking for Seedorf & Ambrosini out, you can't exile everybody.

Another of my little observations: Essien is strong, but he could not pass Molinaro, Abate can, with ease.

With respect to you I have to say that Essian has been out in lamost 6 months if Im not wrong and that he played a great game vs Juve. A player that can play as cM, Dm, RM, RB... but naturally is a DM by his caracteristics.

Aldough abate is fast and strong, he is one dimensional player, pure winger-worker with vision of the game itself. Still, he could be usefull to Milan. I would say Essian is class above Molinaro and Abate for sure.

As far as Aquilani is concerned, he wants money and Sensi doesnt want to pay as much. He would be a perfect box-to-box midfielder that Milan does not have now. Hernanes is a question to be answered, and his ability to play box-to-box in high tempo games.

Yoan can mayyybe play that role, but for him it would be better if he had Gattuso-Flamini behind. And not Pirlo, which is highly probabile even in next year.

So our palyers depend on tactical variation we plan. We dont know that now, we can only guess.

In any case, with a bit of luck with Nesta and MAttioni, just few good signings are needed: 3-4 top.

And a new GK...I dont understnd that, Abbiatti is doing perfect job. Maybe to ensure some players for the future...

If Milan can pay ( sign ) for CB, one fullback (never mind the left or right as Zambro can play on both as well ), one central midfielder and one forward, we will have a tremendous team along with Yoan, Mattioni, Nesta, Abate. Aldough Im not sure Milan will psend big money this summer.

Again - Jankulovski is not a fullback. He is showing it game after a game. He is not capable of palying well in back 4 line more then 2 games in a row, and loses himself in duels and positioning. He is a pure midfielder that plays well once he is given a chance in few games there.

Originally Posted by mrki

As far as Aquilani is concerned, he wants money and Sensi doesnt want to pay as much. He would be a perfect box-to-box midfielder that Milan does not have now. Hernanes is a question to be answered, and his ability to play box-to-box in high tempo games.

Still another injury-prone player ? He's very good, but he often gets problems of injuries ... do we need that ?

And, about Aquilani, of course, he isn't the same kind of player than Gourcuff, but how would we play with Gourcuff if he comes back, Aquilani, Kaka', R80, Gattuso, Flamini, Pirlo, ... and the so-much asked tall striker ?!

Originally Posted by GeoTav

Still another injury-prone player ? He's very good, but he often gets problems of injuries ... do we need that ?

And, about Aquilani, of course, he isn't the same kind of player than Gourcuff, but how would we play with Gourcuff if he comes back, Aquilani, Kaka', R80, Gattuso, Flamini, Pirlo, ... and the so-much asked tall striker ?!

As I said, all of these palyers are not needed. Mercato depends of the football we INTEND to play next year. So far, in past 3 years, we had no plan and bought players that dont fit some clear conception. As Sacchi said we have too many copies.

Milan managment and COACH, whoever it is, need to have a plan and build a team around it.

We talk blindly here, as we dont have a conception in front of our eyes right now.

There has been a lot of talk of a big strong striker. I would like to throw Iaquinta's name in. Watching him last night I realised what a big talent has been missing from regular football this season. Most people have forgotten him. I'm sure all this Cassano talk has unsettled him. Plus he's way down in the pecking order. Maybe we should try a swoop.

Originally Posted by boring

There has been a lot of talk of a big strong striker. I would like to throw Iaquinta's name in. Watching him last night I realised what a big talent has been missing from regular football this season. Most people have forgotten him. I'm sure all this Cassano talk has unsettled him. Plus he's way down in the pecking order. Maybe we should try a swoop.

How about Wolfsburg big striker?

Originally Posted by Siregar

How about Wolfsburg big striker?

Edin Dzeko he is Bosnian...in local newspaper there was something about him after game against Milan on San Siro....they say that he had conversation with Braida etc....they call him new Ibra...
He scored 12 goal in Bundes...I think seven in second part of season...and he is 1986 generation....

Originally Posted by GeoTav

Christian, there are many LBs who go forward better than Janku nowadays ... it's why he should be used in midfield when we need to play on the sides (so especially against small teams who defend with 9-10 players).

Against these teams, we could play Janku on the left with Abate on the right ... And in the same way, R80 can be used in the same kind of role on the left, like Janku, the only difference is that Janku will go forward and stay on his left foot to send the ball in the box, whereas R80 will more often go into the box with his right foot.

I don't really agree, i can't think of alot of LB's who are better going forward, Evra, Maxwell, Marcelo maybe, but except for Evra the rest of the three are not alot better at defending than Jankulovski.

I definetly agree on him playing on the midfield, he's simply excellent there. And assuming we use a target man, then we really need the width.

Originally Posted by rosoneri11

Dida= i cant imagine an offer more than 600-800k euros
Zeljko Kalac= 1-1.5m

Okay, so you think Kalac should make over 1 million as the third-stringer who hasn't played a match since his ignominious role in the summer Chelsea massacre, with Dida making far less as a second choice? That's just ridiculous.

Originally Posted by GeoTav

... and the so-much asked tall striker ?!

why not just exchange oddo (+ seedorf , if needed) w/ toni?

toni still could be useful for 1-2 yrs

Originally Posted by edysupriadi

why not just exchange oddo (+ seedorf , if needed) w/ toni?

toni still could be useful for 1-2 yrs

Because we need long term solutions or current players, not very short term solutions (1-2 years is for me short term).

Don't misunderstand me, actually, I think Toni is an amazing player, a kind of Inzaghi in more powerful and who knows how to keep a ball without falling (even if he sometimes falls lol), but he would have been a very good solution when he had the choice between us and Bayern.

So the only way I see us buying Toni is to replace Inzaghi (who is still a shorter term solution and who could even become a problem if he stays for too long ). That would let us with Pato, Borriello and Toni. We would still need a player.

gomez is my pick for the striker. dzeko is very promising. any of those can do the trick. kaka-pato-gomez/dzeko looks awesome.
and if anyone thinks Iaquinta is talented good player, i believe they should stick to cricket and stop giving us their fancy players as reference points (xavi, iniesta, xabi alonso.... enough of glory hunters)

Originally Posted by GeoTav

Because we need long term solutions or current players, not very short term solutions (1-2 years is for me short term).

Don't misunderstand me, actually, I think Toni is an amazing player, a kind of Inzaghi in more powerful and who knows how to keep a ball without falling (even if he sometimes falls lol), but he would have been a very good solution when he had the choice between us and Bayern.

So the only way I see us buying Toni is to replace Inzaghi (who is still a shorter term solution and who could even become a problem if he stays for too long ). That would let us with Pato, Borriello and Toni. We would still need a player.

yes he is a short term replacement whom I think could be useful for us in the meantime, (during our search for long term one ), also, right now I dont have in mind any other tall ,yet strong striker out there..

Iaquinta? saw him playing few times only & could be good purchase, but I think he's not in-the-box-type striker that we need now

zigic? crouch ? they re tall but not of strong type like toni, crouch got the class (still not sure if he's good enough for milan)& wasted by pool, but zigic? no way ! .. any other candidates in ur mind for long term? manucho?

Btw, Pato, Borriello, Toni, G. ROSSI? two big two small.. just nice !

Originally Posted by edysupriadi

yes he is a short term replacement whom I think could be useful for us in the meantime, (during our search for long term one ), also, right now I dont have in mind any other tall ,yet strong striker out there..

Iaquinta? saw him playing few times only & could be good purchase, but I think he's not in-the-box-type striker that we need now

zigic? crouch ? they re tall but not of strong type like toni, crouch got the class (still not sure if he's good enough for milan)& wasted by pool, but zigic? no way ! .. any other candidates in ur mind for long term? manucho?

Btw, Pato, Borriello, Toni, G. ROSSI? two big two small.. just nice !

Actually, I don't want any tall striker ... they are often limited, even Toni, he is a hell of a striker, but he is damn limited !!

And I don't see the need to have a tall striker in the team to play principally with his head (it's the goal to have this kind of player I think) if we don't have a plan of game done for that ...

So, except if this summer Galliani comes in front of medias to say "we replace Inzaghi by Toni", I won't want any tall striker ...

Remember game VS regianne? we had lots of games like that in last few years.a physical box space-eater is a must to break bunker football.Especially italian teams know how to handle our skill midfield.
when game is still in a stalemate entering 70th minute.throw in boreillo and new big striker is a reasonbale choice.

ADEBAYOR is not only a tall striker,his skill and big lungs can inspire our front mobility even in fast pace games.