Manchester United Football Club

Originally Posted by meazza

PLEASE PLEASE FERGUSON, DO NOT BUY ROONEY!

27 million????

you could have Rosicky, Beattie and Van der Meyde for less than that. Or any number of players (i just picked those ones because I think they'd suit Man U)

but isn't this kind of semi-random shopping exactly what fergie has been doing the last couple of years? how often does he hit the nail?

imho rooney is far from overrated but he needs to play in the right club to develop his talent and although i don't like manu, i think it's the best club for him to be in.
25/27 mill could be a pretty good investment compared to the amounts that manu has previously payed for their flops.

Originally Posted by SonOfBerlusconi

25/27 mill could be a pretty good investment compared to the amounts that manu has previously payed for their flops.

ya mean...

currently watching United - Everton live from Old Trafford.
Apparently Nigel Martyn is another Brad Friedel. He made some great saves.
Damn... 55 mins gone and stil nil - nil.
We do need Ruud van Nistelrooy!!!

63 mins, stil 0-0
Giggs and Djemba-Djemba in
Fletcher and Kleberson out

Smith.. hit the post... Oh no...
previously Ronaldo, then Smith..

Smith's back-header.. wide... very close tho...
10 mins left, still 0 - 0.

81 mins.
Ronaldo out, Bellion in.
Who will break the dead-lock??

Final Whistle.
Manchester United 0 - 0 Everton

4 games, 5 pts. not a good stat to start the campaign.

I saw the game, Everton showed a lot of heart. Where United more and more relied on their old tactic of just throwing the ball into the penalty area.

i don't get why i can't post this reply i wrote.

I even copy and pasted it and whenever i do that it won't work but i can write other stuff fine???

Ronaldo out, Bellion in.
Who will break the dead-lock??

Well Bellion wasnt going to, thats for sure.....

I expected this to be a tough month but i still felt we were strong enough to beat Everton at Old Trafford 3 more weeks until Ruud comes back, Chelski and the Gooners could be 15 points clear by then

When Ferdinand and the other defenders are back i wont worry so much about the defence but the problem now is creativity. Its been like this for a while now and Fergie has tried to fix it by going after Ronaldinho and Robben. Rooney isnt being bought to score 30 goals a season, he is the one identified as the link between midfield and attack that Utd need. If he did score only 4 goals in 5 months it wouldnt bother me if he provides the creativity to help Ruud get 40+ a season.

My problem is, he can never be worth paying this much for. I mean even if he does fufill his potential totally there will still be players equal to him (i mean he has been pretty mediocre most of last season, it's not like he has been dazzling the premiership for 2 seasons now week in week out, ronaldo looks a better player in my opinion and cost 12m), Man U could have signed Cassano, Adriano, Makaay, Tristan, Crespo, Drogba, Cisse Saviola, Trezeguet this season for the same amount. What man u are doing is gambling £5 in fruit machine with a £5 jackpot. So many things could go wrong, he could be the next Francis Jeffers.

he hasn't the maturity and brains(he is clearly a brute rather than a thinker) to provide goals for at least 5 years and he couldn't score in a brothel...

terrible signing, Arsenal get Reyes, Chelsea get Robben and we get Rooney, half the player for twice the price.

Originally Posted by meazza

Man U could have signed Cassano, Adriano, Makaay, Tristan, Crespo, Drogba, Cisse Saviola, Trezeguet this season for the same amount. What man u are doing is gambling £5 in fruit machine with a £5 jackpot. So many things could go wrong, he could be the next Francis Jeffers.
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terrible signing, Arsenal get Reyes, Chelsea get Robben and we get Rooney, half the player for twice the price.

But there's not one English player among those you mention - besides being an obvious talent who has already proved himself (unlike Ronaldo when they bought him), Manu is paying cash for Rooney's popularity. Had Ronaldo been english, his prizetag would have been astronomic as well.

Ofcourse Manu is gambling, but what about the likes of Veron, Kleberson, Forlan, (and perhaps Saha and Smith) who have been expensive half-solutions?

((In that perspective I think it's obvious that Wenger is spending money much more strategically.))

My problem is, he can never be worth paying this much for. I mean even if he does fufill his potential totally there will still be players equal to him (i mean he has been pretty mediocre most of last season, it's not like he has been dazzling the premiership for 2 seasons now week in week out, ronaldo looks a better player in my opinion and cost 12m), Man U could have signed Cassano, Adriano, Makaay, Tristan, Crespo, Drogba, Cisse Saviola, Trezeguet this season for the same amount. What man u are doing is gambling £5 in fruit machine with a £5 jackpot. So many things could go wrong, he could be the next Francis Jeffers.

I understand your concerns and share a few myself, but i do rate Rooney very highly. As SonofBerlusconi says Utd are buying his popularity too, £25m sounds a lot but they will make most of it back in merchandising before he turns 20.

Also, from that list only a few fit the particular type of player Fergie is looking for, a deep striker. Id say only Cassano and maybe Saviola could do it. Cassano would have been good and Fergie did try and buy him 3 years ago but even then the price was 17m, and would he risk his fledgling International career by leaving Serie A??
Saviola has become surplus to requirements at Barca and if they dont rate him then why should Fergie want him??

he hasn't the maturity and brains(he is clearly a brute rather than a thinker) to provide goals for at least 5 years and he couldn't score in a brothel...

His vision was the thing that most impressed me last year. He could see passes that his Everton teammates couldnt but with England his link play has already become vital. He is still immature but with Fergie's help, and that of people like Giggs, Scholes Neville etc he will have enough people to show him how to live if you want to be a success.

terrible signing, Arsenal get Reyes, Chelsea get Robben and we get Rooney, half the player for twice the price.

At least let him play a few games first

Originally Posted by SonOfBerlusconi

((In that perspective I think it's obvious that Wenger is spending money much more strategically.))

Or his board limit him better because they remember how much he spent on Wiltord