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Old 14-09-2004, 10:26   #16

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These are just the same as all the Totti rumours. Nonsense. Always the same unreliable rumour mills (Mosca, Franco Rossi,....)
If he goes (highly unlikely itself) he'll most likely join Real Madrid.
Chelsea and ManUtd, no way. He won't go to england.
Anyway I'd prefer that money spent on areas where we need new players much more in 2-3 years time: central defenders and central midfield.

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.... i dont think he wouldve got giuly with luis garcia present if he was in such enormous debts. besides barca made a deal with telecom i think in which they get 90M to spend for 3 seasons.
Hasn't Luis Garcia joined Liverpool??
And Barca have debt: around 150m €uros. That figure was even named on their official website (annual financial report).
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Old 14-09-2004, 10:46   #17

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Sorry, but where does Madrid insert Ronaldinho among: RAUL, ZIDANE, RONALDO, MORIENTES, OWEN, FIGO ?

Plus, it's not an unreliable source: i told Gallega of AS, plus Laudisa of La Gazzetta dello Sport who is the master of all market experts: they didn't say he will be available, but that he can be on the market sooner.

This isn't a discussion on a deal, there's no deal! But i wanted to listen other milanisti opinion on him.

Barça had debts before Laporta becoming president, plus now he has signed so many important players!!! You' ll see , Barca is in very dangerous waters! Gallega is an expert of the spanish football, he lives in madrid, writes for AS, it's not Maurizio Mosca or other crappy tv showmen. He told Barca will have sooner or later to find 50 millions or more..
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Old 14-09-2004, 10:57   #18

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If he becomes available we will be one of the very few teams that can afford that kind of transfer fee anyhow. So for sure we will be after him and a younger talent such as him is rare and should at least be seriously considered. Paying that much for one player is not the wisest move ever tho, great talent or not, but Berlusconi will decide that if it happens.
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Old 14-09-2004, 11:05   #19

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I just wanna point out that Milan has got 15 millions of euros from the season ticket champaign, which has not even finished yet, and i don't even count the millions from the CL mini season tickets, just for the qualifying stages.

Don't worry about moneys, they have spent few moneys on players, even if the salaries are very high at Milan (like in every top club anyway).

Just to give you the dimension Milan is very wealthy now and can afford every transfert fee around.Plus, with Berlusconi back we mustn't worry. It's veen a political fact: Berlusconi wants to keep the highest image for Milan even as a political investimet: If he remains a winner, it has a dramatic impact even on the elections. It's something every expert would suggest.

Plus, it's genuine Milan passion, even in times when he wasn't involved with politics, has always been expressed by signing spectacul players who can provide many moneys back, great victories and a truly wise merchanding investiment.
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Old 14-09-2004, 12:03   #20

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And another thing:
He might be called the best player, but the same was said about Rivaldo.
Who knows if he performs for Milan like he does for Barca...? Didi he perform like that at PSG too? No, imo.
I'd prefer to invest in Tevez.
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Old 14-09-2004, 12:06   #21

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Well, I admit I have been very critical of Ronaldinho in recent years. I remember seeing him as a youngster and thinking he had the potential to be the worlds best. Then I've been watching him over the years and have been getting disappointed. Last year he was very good (I still think he had more to give) and personally, I see improvements in every match I see him play in now. Currently, I'm still unsure whether I consider him the world's best, but he has changed my opinion.

Personally, I'm not a person who thinks we need him, but he's definately a good player and would help us be stronger. However, I don't see Barca selling him anytime soon, nor do I see us buying him
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Old 14-09-2004, 12:20   #22

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And another thing:
He might be called the best player, but the same was said about Rivaldo.
Who knows if he performs for Milan like he does for Barca...? Didi he perform like that at PSG too? No, imo.
I'd prefer to invest in Tevez.
sorry but there's a contradiction: how can you be unsure of a player who plays since many years in top competitions in europe and since so many years regular in the wc winners' NT, and be so confident in a 20 y o unproven in Europe. I think Tevez is very good anyway, but there's a contradiction in your arguments.
Plus, there's not even one thing in common between Ronaldinho at 24 and Rivaldo at 31/32, except they are brazilians and strikers.
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Old 14-09-2004, 12:49   #23

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sorry but there's a contradiction: how can you be unsure of a player who plays since many years in top competitions in europe and since so many years regular in the wc winners' NT, and be so confident in a 20 y o unproven in Europe. I think Tevez is very good anyway, but there's a contradiction in your arguments.
Plus, there's not even one thing in common between Ronaldinho at 24 and Rivaldo at 31/32, except they are brazilians and strikers.
Tevez is more the hard working very phsical type of player. Ronaldinho is about fun and free role in midfield. Tevez is more like the typical successfull Serie A striker.
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Old 15-09-2004, 05:12   #24

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Ronaldinho is one of the players that no doubt would improve our squad. Basically, this rumour is too good to be true.
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Old 15-09-2004, 07:00   #25

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Bayman Ronaldinho is awesome both in scoring stunners and sering assists, just take a look at the celtic park match of last nite and watch the assist he served deco
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Old 15-09-2004, 07:26   #26

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Bayman Ronaldinho is awesome both in scoring stunners and sering assists, just take a look at the celtic park match of last nite and watch the assist he served deco
I don't think its a good idea to tell people to look at Barca attacking players against Celtic last night because Celtic's defence was absoloutly terrible.
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Old 15-09-2004, 08:04   #27

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i don't get your point
I mean, MUFC has so many great players playing for their side at the moment:
Ryan Giggs, Gary and Phil Nevilles, John O'Shea, Wes Brown, Paul Scholes etc. And Nicky butt though he is not MUFC memeber at the moment
The same thing has to be said about Real: Casillas, Bravo, Pavon, Portillo, Raul, Guti etc. are Madrid boys.
And MUFC and RMCF are great clubs and has to be on top every season as well as we are. So why we can not do the same thing?!
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Old 15-09-2004, 08:46   #28

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Ronaldinho is 24 y o, because he is born in 1980 year. He very good player and I want see him in Milan next year, but no in that year, because we have Rui Costa. Next year he go out from our team.
I'm agree w/ you
Dinho be main target next season.
Enough this season!
Media say I Meravigliosi Milan.
So Milan still needs best player n that guy is dinho!!
MIlan has enough fund!!
Last 2 years, Milan only spended a few milliions for transfer.
In This Case : Trust ME !!!
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Old 15-09-2004, 12:52   #29

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cmon,
barca might have money debts, but real madrid would end up having him at the end,- zidanes a goner, figos gone in some yrs, and real have the policy of buying a superstar every year.


lets say ronaldinho costed as little as 30m €, with that you could get 2 promising youngsters at the same price,- ex. kompany and robinho,
but ronaldinho is probably over 60m €, then u get the two i just mensioned, good offensive drive(robinho) and a classy defender(kompany), heitinga, gilardino, Mancíní maxwell, snjder, almost all of those mensioned,- or other options slightly more expiriensed players,
many of these players could substituit stam, cafu, maldini, pancaro, costacurta, rui costa, superpippo and other old players.
but ofcourse if the chance comes at low price: take him and give him the rossonero shirt!!!!!!
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cmon,
barca might have money debts, but real madrid would end up having him at the end,- zidanes a goner, figos gone in some yrs, and real have the policy of buying a superstar every year.


lets say ronaldinho costed as little as 30m €, with that you could get 2 promising youngsters at the same price,- ex. kompany and robinho,
but ronaldinho is probably over 60m €, then u get the two i just mensioned, good offensive drive(
?all of those mensioned,- or other options slightly more expiriensed players,
many of these players could substituit stam, cafu, maldini, pancaro, costacurta, rui costa, superpippo and other old players.
but ofcourse if the chance comes at low price: take him and give him the rossonero shirt!!!!!!
ok but where do you put:

heitinga kompany maxwell

mancini snejder robinho

gilardino

?

plus i don't know why people worries about moneys, it's like you pay for them
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