Gilardino, Cassano, Adriano, Torres

Originally Posted by Bayman

And apparently Chelsea really want Torres a for 50m pounds

Chelsea, nuova offerta milionaria per Torres: l'Atletico Madrid ci pensa


Il Chelsea ha intenzione di avanzare una nuova offerta all'Atletico Madrid per il 20enne talento Fernando Torres. La squadra spagnola ha già rifiutato diverse proposte non solo dei Blues, ma anche di Milan, Manchester United e delle grandi spagnole, Barcellona e Real Madrid. Il Chelsea vorrebbe avere Torres già a gennaio e in cambio è disposto a versare 50 milioni di sterline. Nell'affare potrebbe anche rientrare il rumeno Mutu. L'Atletico Madrid ci sta pensando.

It doesn't make sense to go into a bidding war there.

Source? Doesn't sound right to me.

well hendrik I read it on belgian Ceefax and they try to be reliable

ps; don't miss the word 'try' in the sentence above

Nesta should stay in Milan!!!! I prefer Nesta over Ronaldo.
Ronaldo sucks this year!!!!!!!!!!Ha-ha-ha.

Originally Posted by Leo85

Why are you annoying? Why do you have to disagree with everyone regarding their opinion? In my opinion, Henry has an edge over Ronaldo, whether you agree with it or not. Why do you have to always mention the bad games or competitions that a player was involved in? Surely, Henry didn't have a good Euro 2004, but surely the whole French NT didn't. Even though Henry proved his class with a superb goal against Switzerland. You want to include the bad games that Henry had? Im sure if you would list his and Ronaldo's, you will find that Ronaldo's has been inconsistent with his performance. Regarding that Henry can only take on 4 'leeds' defenders, at least he can take on defenders, ever asked your self when was the last time Ronaldo dominated the match from the beginning till the end? When was the last time Ronaldo made a bunch of defenders look like fools? Are you going to tell me that Ronaldo was la liga's top scorer? So? Henry was EPL's top scorer, but the difference is that 80% of Henry's goal are superb goals, while Ronaldo's goals are mostly tap ins. Almost everytime the 'Best player of the match' award is going to be given in an Arsenal match, Henry has 50% of taking it. Henry is way faster than Ronaldo now, he's fitter and can atleast score from headers.

-FS

i was in a bad mood, im sorry for that.

Why do you have to always mention the bad games or competitions that a player was involved in?

well what else am i supposed to do to prove to u he isnt as good as people make him out to be??? im not oneof those people who say henry is worse than ronaldo ebcause of his years with juve, thats just stupid i think, because he was very young and he was played out of position, but --->IMO<--- ronaldo just tutors henry, whats so great about henry??? i know hes good but what good is it if he cant step up to the situation when needed???? and im not talking about any crappy EPL game im talking about the CL, and over the years hes been absent, dont u mention the inter game because that inter defence is lousy by all means. where was henry vs chelsea??? the team wasnt playing bad in highbury, but he was pure crap! unlike ronaldo he cant even leave a mark when hes in an offday also; besides i mentioned the euros because i dont believe the EPL is the best place to show ur worth, he didnt do it in the CL he could atleast do it in the euros, why should we feel bad for him and give him the award despite the horrible euros he had? why not just give it to some1 who also did well internationally i.e CONSISTENT throughout the season.

oh and i really dont care what u think but i believe its stupid to think that the EPL is in the stature of the liga and serieA, just imagine how many goals 'ronaldy' would score there, imagine how many goals 'shevy' should score there, maybe the goalkeeper might even step aside and let them score one day!

Originally Posted by mk18

i was in a bad mood, im sorry for that.



well what else am i supposed to do to prove to u he isnt as good as people make him out to be??? im not oneof those people who say henry is worse than ronaldo ebcause of his years with juve, thats just stupid i think, because he was very young and he was played out of position, but --->IMO<--- ronaldo just tutors henry, whats so great about henry??? i know hes good but what good is it if he cant step up to the situation when needed???? and im not talking about any crappy EPL game im talking about the CL, and over the years hes been absent, dont u mention the inter game because that inter defence is lousy by all means. where was henry vs chelsea??? the team wasnt playing bad in highbury, but he was pure crap! unlike ronaldo he cant even leave a mark when hes in an offday also; besides i mentioned the euros because i dont believe the EPL is the best place to show ur worth, he didnt do it in the CL he could atleast do it in the euros, why should we feel bad for him and give him the award despite the horrible euros he had? why not just give it to some1 who also did well internationally i.e CONSISTENT throughout the season.

oh and i really dont care what u think but i believe its stupid to think that the EPL is in the stature of the liga and serieA, just imagine how many goals 'ronaldy' would score there, imagine how many goals 'shevy' should score there, maybe the goalkeeper might even step aside and let them score one day!

The most important thing in football is about winning a medal or Championship, ok Both of them ever win World Cup, How about in the club stage?? I think Henry had at least 2 premiership crown, where as Ronnie after moving to Inter, never won anything, including in Madrid. I don't care who tutor who, but the fact is Henry is more complete package than Ronaldo.
The bottom line is I don't think Milan will ever sell their best player to other team, that's one of many Milan Motto. so forget it!!!!! Especially exchange w/ Ronaldo

Originally Posted by Maldini_Sheva

The most important thing in football is about winning a medal or Championship, ok Both of them ever win World Cup, How about in the club stage?? I think Henry had at least 2 premiership crown, where as Ronnie after moving to Inter, never won anything, including in Madrid. I don't care who tutor who, but the fact is Henry is more complete package than Ronaldo.
The bottom line is I don't think Milan will ever sell their best player to other team, that's one of many Milan Motto. so forget it!!!!! Especially exchange w/ Ronaldo

1- ronaldo won the WC not only after moving to inter, but that same summer he became the 2nd or 3rd most expensive player in the world. he also won the la liga championship in his first season with real, he also won the top scorer award (was it twice, i really forgot), he also gave inter their only trophy in 15 years the uefa cup and he also won the player of the year award twice i think during his time with inter-real madrid.

how can u say he hasnt won anything after moving to inter?

I don't care who tutor who, but the fact is Henry is more complete package than Ronaldo.

what i want is proof, and u still havent proved anything... in terms of speed ronaldo may look slow right now but when on form he is lightning quick, even when he is fat! and i think theres a factor that makes henry look as fast as ronaldo.. its the camera, on TV highbury is so close to the field so henry lok ssmaller, the bernabau is more further away and ronaldo should look faster if hes playing in highbury. n terms of power, i dont believe u think henry is more powerful than ronaldo, henry is a stick, with fat come more power btw ronaldo is definatly more pwerful. in terms of shooting, well the records speak for themselves ronaldo is the best in the world at it. what else should we add?

3- i never said id like to exchange roanldo with anyone (maybe simic) i dont know where u came up with that crap, especially if its nesta!

player of the year?? do you know how many critics facing him at that time??
I don't need to prove anything to you. Most of the people in this forum agree that Ronaldo isn't the same player as he was in Barca. Most of us hurt w/ his decision leaving Inter, while Inter gave him a very excellent treatment while he was injured. Ok if you feel that Ronnie is good that's your own opinion, I don't see anything special from him pasca his 1st season at Inter. Also Ronaldo need to hold the ball alot to create his magic, when the ball doesn't come to him no magic will be showed. no Movement, look at Sheva, Crespo, Pippo, JDT, they didn't need to hold the ball that long to create their goals. you just need to make a vote and see the result on who's the best between Henry and Ronaldo right now?? I want to see how many people vote for Ronaldo. Ok, I would only agree to see Ronnie in Milan, if he's taking a very big paycut and come for free, or else forget it!!!!!
Where do I got that Crap, you can see the news posted by Bayman in the page 7 of this tread, I never mean to accused you about this. I think you need to read the tread before making any silly comments to everyone. OK

Originally Posted by Maldini_Sheva

player of the year?? do you know how many critics facing him at that time??
I don't need to prove anything to you. Most of the people in this forum agree that Ronaldo isn't the same player as he was in Barca. Most of us hurt w/ his decision leaving Inter, while Inter gave him a very excellent treatment while he was injured. Ok if you feel that Ronnie is good that's your own opinion, I don't see anything special from him pasca his 1st season at Inter. Also Ronaldo need to hold the ball alot to create his magic, when the ball doesn't come to him no magic will be showed. no Movement, look at Sheva, Crespo, Pippo, JDT, they didn't need to hold the ball that long to create their goals. you just need to make a vote and see the result on who's the best between Henry and Ronaldo right now?? I want to see how many people vote for Ronaldo. Ok, I would only agree to see Ronnie in Milan, if he's taking a very big paycut and come for free, or else forget it!!!!!
Where do I got that Crap, you can see the news posted by Bayman in the page 7 of this tread, I never mean to accused you about this. I think you need to read the tread before making any silly comments to everyone. OK

what the hell??? ... ur putting words in my mouth... 1) i would be the first to agree that ronaldo isnt the same ronaldo from barca... i dont care what u all think abut ehnry and ronaldo ... the facts are stronger, and facts prove that ronaldo > henry.

2) i need to read before i write??? man, look whose talking u were the one who said ...

Originally Posted by Maldini_Sheva

The bottom line is I don't think Milan will ever sell their best player to other team, that's one of many Milan Motto. so forget it!!!!! Especially exchange w/ Ronaldo

yeah, and i never said that i would want to see nesta traded for ronaldo... i just said i would like to see ronaldo here.... just money, unless real would like to trade him with simic or something.

OK

Of course Ronaldo is one of the best players in the world! But I don`t like him. And imo Milan needn`t player like Ronaldo!!!

I've not been reading lately and when I come back I find people arguing about Nesta swap with Ronaldo.

HAHAHAHA!! Come on people, look at the source, then look at the actual deal and then tell me theres even the slightest chance this is true with a straight face

i agree with ACMILAN1983