Bolivar - Boca Juniors (pre-game comments)

yeah, we won the first match, now the second will be played on the 17th...a day before Juve - Milan....it will be interesting to see if I survive those 2 days

Chiorazzo is so far the tournament's top scorer this season. After Joaquin Botero (world's top scorer 2003) left us, many thought we wouldn't have a player capable of taking his place, but then Chiorazzo stood up for the challenge.

As for my team's history, I would love to talk more about it rae, but I am currently busy with some stuff, so I'll just summarize it for you .

Bolivar is without a doubt Bolivia's best team. We were 12 times champions of the Bolivian National League (which started under that name in 1977). So basically we won 12 out of 26, and this year we are going for the 13th . Before 1977 the League had another name and Bolivar was of course part of it, winning many times. So nationally, Bolivar is the best team. Internationally, Bolivar has always been Bolivia's best representant. Although eternally considered underdogs when playing other big South American clubs, we still managed to reach the final stages of many of the international competitions we played in (both Copa Libertadores and Copa Sudamericana)....now few dare to consider us underdogs anymore . Although we made it to quarterfinals of the South American cups many times, it was only in 2002 that we made it to a semifinal (first time for us as well as for any Bolivian club), where we barely lost to the team that would later on become the champion, San Lorenzo from Argentina. Now, in 2004, and again for the first time for a Bolivian club, we reached the final of an international competition, where Boca was waiting. We won the first final in Bolivia 1-0, and the second final will be on the 17th on the mitical "Bombonera" in Argentina. Actually, the original schedule said that the first final should be in Argentina, and the second and definitive one in Bolivia. But "somehow" CONMEBOL (South American Football Association) managed to turn it around and make the final-final in Argentina.....money issues of course, sad but true.

In short, when it comes to international club competitions, Bolivar is Bolivia, and although at national team level Bolivia is doing very poorly, at club level Bolivar always gives reasons for Bolivians to be proud of.

!!!VIVA EL BOLIVAR !!!

Congrats Goirre on Bolivar first leg win,i just saw the highlight and i remembered you

thanx Shomo, now there is only one match left, hopefully we will play our usual football there

OK, Carlos.... one question for you: Copa Libertadores and Copa Sudamericana are different tournaments held in different seasons of year, rite? And do those two tournaments have same prestige?

Originally Posted by rae

OK, Carlos.... one question for you: Copa Libertadores and Copa Sudamericana are different tournaments held in different seasons of year, rite? And do those two tournaments have same prestige?

hey rae, sorry, I didn't see ur question before.

You could say that the Copa Libertadores is the equivalent to the Champions League and Copa Sudamericana is the equivalent to the UEFA Cup. HOWEVER, unlike UEFA Cup, the top teams of all countries qualify to the Copa Sudamericana. So basically, it is like we have two Champions Leagues per year, where the top teams of each country participate. But even if these two tournaments host the best teams of the continent, the Copa Libertadores still remains as the more prestiguous one, a clear proof of this is that the money prizes are much higher in the Copa Libertadores, and it is the Copa Libertadores winner who goes on to represent South America in the Intercontinental Cup (well, at least until this year). Last but not least, the winner of the Copa Libertadores and the Copa Sudamericana play for the Recopa (the equivalent to the European SuperCup). So far it never happended that the same team winned both Copa Libetadores and Copa Sudamericana in the same season, but under the current formar it could happen someday.

I hope that cleared everything up

well, now I am out for a couple of weeks, Boca -vs- Bolivar is going to be played in less than 24 hours, I hope that two weeks from now I'll be able to come to this thread to celebrate


!!!VIVA EL BOLIVAR CAMPEON!!!


Cheers

Sorry Goirre Boca won 2-0!!!
Palermo and Tevez.

Originally Posted by Gipson

Sorry Goirre Boca won 2-0!!!
Palermo and Tevez.

...echhh... yesterday was a cruised day.... no wonder why Bolivar lost.....

Sorry for Goirre and Rae....
Boca beat Milan then Bolivar...
I think, Goirre hate those phuckers (like Gio called 'em) so damn mush...
He..he..

Actually Peachtot, I don't hate Boca...yes, they beat Milan in the Intercontinental Cup and beat Bolivar in the South American Cup final, but that is no reason for hating them....I don't like them either, but I don't hate them.....most people around here know that the only two teams I do "hate" are Real Madrid and River Plate

Anyway, we didn't win this Cup, but we came very very close...great job by the Bolivar players

!!! VIVA EL BOLIVAR !!!

I got it goirre.
but why river plate?

Well, long history, it has to do more with their fans actually