Liverno Milan post game comments

This is going to be a depressing thread but here goes anyway

report from www.channel4.com

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Serie A Week 20 - 23/1/05 (15.00)
Livorno 1 - 0 Milan
Colombo 28 (L)
Stadio Armando Picchi

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Corrado Colombo has sealed Milan's first away defeat of the season and left them five points adrift of leaders Juventus.

Two former Rossoneri teammates face off on the sidelines, as Carlo Ancelotti and Roberto Donadoni were key to the 'Grande Milan' of the 1980's and 90's. He had started his Serie A Coaching career with last week's 3-1 win over Messina, but Milan were eager for a victory to further close the gap on leaders Juventus.

Massimo Ambrosini stepped in for the suspended Andrea Pirlo in the Milan midfield, while Vikash Dhorasoo was chosen ahead of Clarence Seedorf. Surprisingly, Igor Protti was again left on the Livorno bench in favour of Corrado Colombo.

The visitors had a strong start with a save on Kaka, but Jaap Stam was called into a crucial intervention as Colombo came sliding in from close range. The conditions weren't too conducive to attractive play as there was heavy rainfall on the Stadio Picchi.

There was controversy on 16 minutes when Cristiano Lucarelli dribbled past Alessandro Nesta, then fell under Dida's challenge. With the goalkeeper down two shots were charged down by defenders, but replays suggest Dida did not make contact with the ball.

Milan were having the better of the early play and Dhorasoo set Kaka moving for the Brazilian to run past three defenders and his low drive thumped the base of the upright.

However, it was Livorno who took the lead after 28 minutes. The Milan defence was caught ball-watching as Dida saved a Jose Luis Vidigal header from Passoni's free kick, but could do nothing on Colombo's follow-up from six yards.

Crespo had the opportunity to draw level less than a minute later when he sprung the offside trap, but he tried to cut back on to his favoured foot and the chance went begging.

The referee got on the wrong side of both teams, as Milan were livid that Crespo was not awarded a penalty for Fabio Galante's shirt-tug.

Livorno nearly doubled their lead with an identical move to the goal, but this time Dida was ready with a brilliant fingertip reaction save on Galante's header.

The Tuscans had an even clearer opportunity within a minute of the restart as Stam was keeping Vigiani on side, but he somehow drilled wide of the target with only Dida to beat.

It was an extremely tense encounter and after 51 minutes Andriy Shevchenko and Alessandro Lucarelli were both booked for their scuffle. The Ukrainian appeared to be nudged as he watched a cross come in and got back up to push his marker away.

Vigiani wasted another golden opportunity on the counter-attack and Crespo's headed goal was disallowed for a push on Alessandro Lucarelli.

Igor Protti came on and nearly made it 2-0 for Livorno as Cristiano Lucarelli held up the ball for the veteran, but his low drive was smothered by Dida.

Milan's Brazilian goalkeeper was again forced into a splendid reaction save on Cristiano Lucarelli's deflected angled drive and protected the loose ball from Protti.

Moments later the Rossoneri were furious with the referee as Shevchenko was brought down by goalkeeper Marco Amelia and their penalty appeals were waved away. He had lifted Seedorf's pass over the 'keeper and Amelia did not make contact with the ball.

Milan's day was made even worse in stoppages when Alessandro Nesta was sent off for a second bookable offence as he brought down Protti. From the position Dida fingertipped Cristiano Lucarelli's free kick on to the crossbar.


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Milan: Dida; Cafu, Stam, Nesta, Maldini; Gattuso (Seedorf 46), Ambrosini (Rui Costa 75), Dhorasoo; Kakà; Shevchenko, Crespo (Tomasson 65)

Livorno: Amelia; Galante, Vargas, A Lucarelli; Balleri, Doga, Vigiani (Grauso 69), Passoni, Vidigal; Colombo (Protti 61), C Lucarelli

Ref: Farina

Sent off: Nesta 93 (M)

Our strikers were being pushed around all game inside Livorno's penalty area (2 clear penalties the ref failed to call) and the minute Crespo won a challenge it was Livorno's freekick and the goal didn't stand. Also, Nesta's 2nd yellow card was simply ridiculous.

Crap

Come on Tyge we didn't play well, simple as that

We tremendously missed Pirlo, and in the next two months i will feel free to slag off Bayman if he says Pirlo's useless

the loss is ancelotti's fault, simple as that, when his a-plan goes wrong, he cleary doesn't know what to do, his changes were useless and too late, and plus he doesn't know how to risk things, this is the one area where he really lacks as a manager.

this defeat has seriously p!ssed me off, everytime we get close to juve we slip up over a small team.

in the 2 games agaisnt livorno, 1 pt ( thats unacceptable, we need to improve agaisnt these types of teams, or before long we'll just be left with the cl to play for.

by the report it seems the Farina maybe could have done a better job as ref!
for anyone who saw the match were the penalty appeals valid and should crespos goal have been disallowed, also sandros red card?

Originally Posted by Giovanni

Come on Tyge we didn't play well, simple as that

We tremendously missed Pirlo, and in the next two months i will feel free to slag off Bayman if he says Pirlo's useless

When you play a player like Ambrosini instead of Pirlo it is a big step down. Why not trying Seedorf - Dhorasoo - gattuso, Carlo?

Originally Posted by Bayman

When you play a player like Ambrosini instead of Pirlo it is a big step down. Why not trying Seedorf - Dhorasoo - gattuso, Carlo?

And what if Dhorasoo doesn't play well? Or seedorf? Are you going to make another statement:

"When you play a plyaer like Dhorasoo instead of Pirlo it's a HUGE step down. WHy not try... say... Vicente?"

Bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep said Henrik the human cencur.

At the same time:

Originally Posted by ACMILAN1983

Jeff, in a bad mood?

We'll bounce back soon, I'm sure of it

I'm sure of it too, but I"m sick of people who pound on all the possibilities to bash the team, without looking at himself in the mirror what he has posted before and now blame someone else.

I'm just so sick of him.

it should have been rui-costa-dhorasso-seedorf-kaka in midfield

sandro`s red card is simply simply funny and it is outrageous,that was the last drop.imo amelia did faul sheva and it should`ve been a penalty kick,as for crespo`s `goal` i didn`t see it really well so i can`t claim anything for sure. btw totally agreed with gio on pirlo matter.
hopefully we`ll make up fpr this and catch up with dopentus again
Forza Milan

Losing is ok.
But looking at Bayman bashing players once lost is just so freaking SICKENING.

Go and dip yourself in chocolate (yummy!) and everything will be better here.
Don't just make stupid post can you?

I don't know the access to all your previous post on Pirlo, but I'm sure the mods. here are more happy to help me out on this

J

Another chance to keep pace with Juve lost, another opportunity to integrate players that have languished on the bench wasted, another scudetto title given Juve on a platter?

This may be an early premature suggestion, but Juve IMO did not really impress, yet they won, and that is the hall mark of a champion, grinding out results even when you are not playing well.

How much of this loss do I attribute to Carlo? I give him about 80% responsibility.

Why you ask? When he never took the pitch...? He selected the players, indeed, he chose the tactics that would dictate how those players selected played...and the results speak for themselves.

Rui Costa, IMHO, should have started for Pirlo, who was suspended, and I would even say that Ambro could have played in Rino's place, but not on the same pitch, at the same time. That is a recipe for disaster.

We have effectively written off our chances for this year's scudetto, as we have very little hope of catching Juve if we keep up this policy of dropping points just when it seems that we are gaining on the leaders. And these are not just a Roma or a Lazio who will fold under pressure...this is Juve, and they usually dont falter...unless coached by Carlo..hmmmmm see any connection here?

Some may say its still early, and we still have many matches to go. Well, I would love to be proven wrong. This result for me, was the "writing on the wall" as far as our season will go.

We will always come up just a little short.

Originally Posted by Bayman

When you play a player like Ambrosini instead of Pirlo it is a big step down. Why not trying Seedorf - Dhorasoo - gattuso, Carlo?

i agree that ambrosini was not the best choice, maybe pirlo's absence would not have been noticed as much if rui costa took his place but Bayman I think you should realise that Pirlo is key for us. He is a focal point in our team, everything pretty much goes through him.

He is in my opinion one of the best midfielders around
real madrid and probably many more top clubs want him, we are lucky to have him

Originally Posted by Jeff

And what if Dhorasoo doesn't play well? Or seedorf? Are you going to make another statement:

"When you play a plyaer like Dhorasoo instead of Pirlo it's a HUGE step down. WHy not try... say... Vicente?"

F*Ck off.
I'm just so sick of him.

Thing is I'm saying this for 2 years. About Ambro (and Abbiati too). I never said a bad word on Seedorf, Kaka, Sheva. If they have a bad game, they still cariied us through for long enough.

Originally Posted by Bayman

Thing is I'm saying this for 2 years. About Ambro (and Abbiati too). I never said a bad word on Seedorf, Kaka, Sheva. If they have a bad game, they still cariied us through for long enough.

Thing is you are saying Pirlo is crap for 2 years. I don't care if you say Amro and Abbiati is bad. Your very first argument is against Pirlo and your final argument is still against Pirlo.

And this is the thing you pissed me off. How the hell do you expect people to believe your so-called 'I-hv-sticked-to-this-idea-for-2-years' attitude when your cricticism of our team is against the brain, the creative mind?

Huh?

Can you be a doctor when you know how to treat hands and legs but don't know a s*it about the brain?

Come on. Wake up. It's not a time for you to celebrate your idea of Vicante or whoever... or to bash players. They have just played one bad game (and is it really bad, I don't really think it's REAL bad, but that's not in the argument here) and now you jump out like a sniper shooting at scapegoat.

I mean, can't you just sing a jule-time song and be self-conscious of your god-damn past postS?

meanwhile, let me comment on how crap the referee is.

Shame on Ancelotti saying that Italian's referees are best in the world.
FAR FAR FROM it.

Crespo has been pulled so many f*cking times. Sheva has a clear header denied before he can even jump. On the other side of the pitch, players pulled shirt and tackled from behind without a card.

I tell u... tons of evidence showing the referee sucks in this game. Really bad.
Ancelotti actually went to the referee in the 1st half complaining Crespo being pulled shirt and nothing happend.

the MOST AWFUL refereeing I have seen.