Racist inter fans

All of it is racism. It's kind of a weird pattern of behavior in which one will be racist to the opponent's player yet love and appreciate their own "negroes".
We all have to watch out at who we call racist too. Because in many ways when we look deep down within ourselves, we have to ask the questions; When was the last time you had a man of color invited to your house as friends? Would you allow your children to marry across racial lines? How do you feel about a man of color being your employer or boss? Have you ever voted for someone to a government position of different race/races other than your own? Then the reality hits home! Maybe we are bigots too. It is easy to point the finger at every thing else with exception of yourself. Just trying to have us do a little self reflection ob this issue.
FORZA MILAN!

I think your points are totally invalid Kui, certainly for me personally. I have many black friends who I spend a large amount of time with socially. I would have no problem with a black man being my boss, or any of the other points you raised.

And whether or not you can agree with that personally, it certainly does not give fans of any club the right to racially abuse players from other teams, and resort to throwing bananas at them! It is totally unacceptable, and would be just the same if our fans did it.

My point is that when a club is involved in an anti-racism scheme in the way that inter are, then someone should be brave enough to stand up and condemn their fans for it. I would certainly expect Galiani, Ancelotti and all the players to condemn similar actions if they were by our fans.

Useless discussion. As I have mentioned, this offencive action can not be treated as a racistic abuse just because Inter has their own negro players. So if they really have racistic pont of view they should offend their own stars. This fact contradict to action.

PS: Am I a racist if I do not have ''coloured'' friends? [because my country's economical situation is too poor to have any immigrants]

Originally Posted by rae

IMO they can not be racist just because they have their beloved Obafemi Martins. Simlpy as that. End of worthless disussion.

No, this simply shows that they are stupid.
If you make monkey sounds to offend Seedorf you are an ignorant racist, even if players on your team, you boss, your wife and your fifth grade teacher are black.

Originally Posted by Henrik

No, this simply shows that they are stupid.
If you make monkey sounds to offend Seedorf you are an ignorant racist, even if players on your team, you boss, your wife and your fifth grade teacher are black.

Yup, Inter fans never were the most educated people in the world.

Although what is the link between blackman and monkey? Colour? Only colour? We all are somehow related with apes At least if someone denies Darwin's theory...

Originally Posted by Stefan

I think your points are totally invalid Kui, certainly for me personally. I have many black friends who I spend a large amount of time with socially. I would have no problem with a black man being my boss, or any of the other points you raised.

And whether or not you can agree with that personally, it certainly does not give fans of any club the right to racially abuse players from other teams, and resort to throwing bananas at them! It is totally unacceptable, and would be just the same if our fans did it.

My point is that when a club is involved in an anti-racism scheme in the way that inter are, then someone should be brave enough to stand up and condemn their fans for it. I would certainly expect Galiani, Ancelotti and all the players to condemn similar actions if they were by our fans.

No Stefan you wouldnt be a racist. And obviously the message I posted wouldnt pertain to you. And no Rae the obviously when it comes to people of color in wouldnt pertain to you. But racism isnt just directed at people of color. I'm talking about people of certain attitudes that refuse to inter-mingle, inter-marry, or even send their children to the same schools as others.
You'll be surprised to find out there are many people who consider themselves non-racist yet dont accept or practice any of the priciples that I mentioned above. Obviously I've made people very conscientious about themselves when pertaining to this race issue. Please note that my post was not made in any way to accuse anyone of being a racist. So I'm not too sure why you, Stefan and Rae were getting a little offended here. I just wanted people to firstly back-up and self reflect who they are as individuals. Thanks for your concerns.

FORZA MILAN!

Well, bascally I do not got offended at all. I jsut wanted to say that these days racism is treated not the exact conceptin as it written in dictionary. Now racism is everywhere and everytime. Too many speculations made about this issue. Word loses it's conception. This is my concern.

I do understand what you are saying. It's a word that does get thrown around a lot these days.

Originally Posted by rae

Although what is the link between blackman and monkey? Colour? Only colour? We all are somehow related with apes At least if someone denies Darwin's theory...

The ignorant try to make the connection with monkeys coming from africa and maybe too the color. But it is a really offensive way to classify any type of person.

Originally Posted by rae

Yup, Inter fans never were the most educated people in the world.

Although what is the link between blackman and monkey? Colour? Only colour? We all are somehow related with apes At least if someone denies Darwin's theory...

I sincerely doubt that those Inter fans have read Darwin's 'Origin of Species by means of Natural Selection'.

Originally Posted by Kui

The ignorant try to make the connection with monkeys coming from africa and maybe too the color. But it is a really offensive way to classify any type of person.

But we also are orginated form Africa, dont we.... so whats the matter....

The real europeans are homo sapiens and not homo sapiens sapiens....am I wrong...

Originally Posted by rae

But we also are orginated form Africa, dont we.... so whats the matter....

The real europeans are homo sapiens and not homo sapiens sapiens....am I wrong...

Allthough I may fit into you description of a "real European", I am actually Neanderthal, but noone seems to notice.

Originally Posted by Henrik

Allthough I may fit into you description of a "real European", I am actually Neanderthal, but noone seems to notice.

do not get me wrong... I do say that we - homo sapiens sapiens are orginated in Africa and homo sapiens were found in Neanderthal walley so the can call themselves ''real europeans'' as we - ''real africans''

But it is not the point. Is it true that black people are moneys or colser to them than white people. I guess no. So why to offend coloured man it is used monkey sound and to offend white man it is not used?

Originally Posted by rae

As I have mentioned, this offencive action can not be treated as a racistic abuse just because Inter has their own negro players. So if they really have racistic pont of view they should offend their own stars. This fact contradict to action.

"Negro" is considered an offensive word in English. Just so you know.

Racists are not logical people. Maybe they support their own black players, but if they make monkey noises at any black player, this is unacceptable. I don't care if it's a former Inter player. If they treat him differently than they would a white "traitor", it's racism. And I didn't notice Pirlo getting any monkey abuse.

Originally Posted by rae

But it is not the point. Is it true that black people are moneys or colser to them than white people. I guess no. So why to offend coloured man it is used monkey sound and to offend white man it is not used?

Did you just get spagetti stuck in your keyboard? Your spelling is normally better than that, I honestly don't know what you were trying to say.