Chelsea?

Apparently they have dropped out of the race for Cole anyway, their new target is Zambrotta

The entire thing with Chelsea and UEFA has just proved to me what a joke Uefa really are.

Two chelsea officials say they seen Rijkaard talking with Frisk
Frisk said he was speaking with him
A Uefa official said he also seen Frisk talking with Rijkaard
Rijkaard said that he was speaking with Frisk

What do Uefa do? Call Chelsea liars for claiming the incident happened!!!! Honestly come on. Your going to fine/touchline ban or kick Chelsea out of the CL (will never happen) because of this.
Frisk gets wacked with a cigarette lighter in Rome. Uefa ban the fans.
Real Madrid fans do nothing but chant racist noises to opposing players all the time. Uefa do nothing
Spanish coach makes racist remarks about a black player. Uefa give him a piddly fine.
Chelsea make a statement that all agreed happened. Uefa threaten to kick them out!

So with a track record like that Uefa are basically being judge jury and executioner what chance to Chelsea have?

Actually that last point was also a little off the initial topic.

Abhramovic, by what ever means he got his wealth the fact is his is extremely wealthy and has a very good brain on his shoulders to amass such wealth at his age. Now in order to keep out of a Russian prison and being made bankrupt he had to invest. While not being a Chelsea fan he is at least a football fan. For what ever reason anyway he invests in Chelsea, wipes out their debt and finances the rebuilding of the team. A lot of narrow minded people only see the money aspect of it.

What else is being done. Kenyon and a lot of other back room staff are brought in. Players they are buying are good young players so they are definitely building for the future. They have opened up in new markets and I believe an Asian or American tour is planned for next preseason. They have gotten out of a kit deal that to be fair umbro were robbing them blind on and gotten one of the top kit deals in football. They have also re-negotiated their Emirates contract and now have one of the top sponsor ship deals in football. All of this have seen Chelsea’s earnings rocket and also their potential earnings rocket as well.

With complete respect to real football fans the sport has more than its fair share of glory sheep. People and fans are fickle, especially over in the important money making places like Asia. When Chelsea start winning they will generate huge revenue streams for thousands of glory hunting fans getting with the winning team. This happens all the time and it will happen with the blues.

When you sum up all of this it points to one thing. Massive potential. Now it takes money to make money and in order for this to happen a huge outlay was needed. Having gathered billions so far I don’t think Roman is that stupid that he will not be looking for a return on his investment. If he had that attitude he wouldn’t have the wealth that he now enjoys.

I think a transfer market ban would be a good punishment. totally doable too surely.

They can't impost a transfer market ban as the law of the game state a transfer market ban can only be imposed due to clubs exploiting the market, i.e. tapping up etc...

I'd say the max punnishment they will get is a fine. They can't very well do anything else considering Chelsea fans only threatened, Roma fans actually did something!

Originally Posted by iregk

They can't impost a transfer market ban as the law of the game state a transfer market ban can only be imposed due to clubs exploiting the market, i.e. tapping up etc...

I'd say the max punnishment they will get is a fine. They can't very well do anything else considering Chelsea fans only threatened, Roma fans actually did something!

i was talking about the ban being for the Ashley Cole incident. For the CL a touchline ban for both bayern games is all they'll get, I'm positive.

The most the English FA could do is fine Chelsea everything else such as taking of points and such will backfire against them.

The whole Ashley Cole incident strikes me as very murky. Chelsea say Cole insitgated the contact, which I completely believe because Cole is that type of person, Cole says he didn't but honestly he can't really come out and admit that he did now can he?

As soon as all this happened Arsenal called for Chelsea to be hit with a 9 point deduction convieniently the gap between the two clubs. Something struck me when I heard that as a well planned event by arsenal who knew they had lost the title and were willing to try anything to get it back. Who is to say this hasn't been organised by Arsenal?

Not for a second suggesting that Chelsea are clean here!

But I would agree with Meazza, the most is a touch line ban they will get...

The whole Ashley Cole incident strikes me as very murky. Chelsea say Cole insitgated the contact, which I completely believe because Cole is that type of person, Cole says he didn't but honestly he can't really come out and admit that he did now can he?

the press say that since the FA clearly didnt believe his story and now that he's been charged he's actually going to admit he instigated it and use the human rights angle to try and get away with it

to be honest he has a point in that employee's on contracts should be able to search for potential employers without having to wait until the contract is nearly up, not necesarily to protect the Ashley Coles of this world but more the lower paid players who could end up without a club. That said, if they did change the rules they should completely overhaul the agents system and pay them a set fee whether their players move or not to discourage talent touting.....

I can see exactly where the entire angle is coming from and yes it will help lower league players seek other clubs, but if thats brought in we know exactly whats going to happen don't we?
In every top flight all over europe its open season for players and manager!!! Patrick Viera will be straight on a plane to Madrid to discuss a contract, Christian Vieri will move three times in one season etc... To bring that in would be pure carnage...

If you think that this is not happening already you must a bit too naive. These so called "transfer rules" are just a formality and could be so easily "dealt with" one might even forget they were ever created. Ashley Cole was just too stupid to get caught like that, I mean how ****ed-up one must be to meet Mourinho in the center of London. Couldn't they just meet in somebody's car or home or whatever if he really wanted to pull it off - it's not like Arsen has Scotland Yard on Cole and Mourinho's arses.
Or maybe Cole has done it so many times before he thought he could always get away with it and eventually got sloppy.
Bottom line is, if you really wanna get around the rules, you could do it very easily at least as long as you are not as dumb as an Ashley Cole.

Ah without a doubt thats all true. Just look at teh way Anelka came to Arsenal and told them that Real were ready to offer 20million!!!

Also sure hasn't Jimmy Floyd Hasstlebaink engineerd moves for years. Of course it goes on but if something like the common employment rule were to come into effect it would make it so much worse and much more blatant.

Originally Posted by zlatanov

If you think that this is not happening already you must a bit too naive. These so called "transfer rules" are just a formality and could be so easily "dealt with" one might even forget they were ever created. Ashley Cole was just too stupid to get caught like that, I mean how ****ed-up one must be to meet Mourinho in the center of London. Couldn't they just meet in somebody's car or home or whatever if he really wanted to pull it off - it's not like Arsen has Scotland Yard on Cole and Mourinho's arses.
Or maybe Cole has done it so many times before he thought he could always get away with it and eventually got sloppy.
Bottom line is, if you really wanna get around the rules, you could do it very easily at least as long as you are not as dumb as an Ashley Cole.

totally, it happens all the time. I remember on air someone let slip what a caring manager Alex Ferguson was by mentioning he visited Ruud in hospital every few weeks when he broke his leg, come on, that's practically tapping. however, Ferguson did it in private and in a half sneaky way, we would have never known for the slip, I'm sure other managers have done the same too. It's the fact that Mourinho and Cole met in a busy resteraunt, i don't know if it was all stupidity, Chelsea have such arrogance that I think they feel they can flaunt the rules and get away with it, this ultimately could see them getting a heavier punishment as it mocks the FA and brings football into disrepute.

totally, it happens all the time. I remember on air someone let slip what a caring manager Alex Ferguson was by mentioning he visited Ruud in hospital every few weeks when he broke his leg, come on, that's practically tapping. however, Ferguson did it in private and in a half sneaky way, we would have never known for the slip

Fergie gets away with that because we had already agreed to buy him once, if PSV had listened to the Utd medical team the injury could maybe have been avoided

That said like all managers Fergie has tapped up players, Stam was used to get Ruud, the Nevilles sold Utd to Rooney whilst on England duty every team does it to save wasting time and money, they want to know a deal is possible before hiring expensive agents to conclude it.

What i dont understand about Cole is he only needed to speak to Zahavi. Even if he had been seen talking to him the best the press could suggest is that maybe Cole was considering a move, which would have put pressure on Arsenal to meet his wage demands.