Warro Bantan

Warro Bantan · 05-05-2005, 16:59

I will restrict my comments to the pending match, and avoid the quagmire of conspiracy theories being espoused here.

Juve will undoubtedly have the better physical conditioning, though I think Milan will recover in time to give them their money´s worth, and I dont think to see a replay of the last two Milan games (ie vs Viola and PSV) in this potential title decider.

Milan will be totally focused on this game, and I look for Carlo to revert to his regular diamond in the middle, and probably drop Seedorf for this match, though I really wouldnt be surprised to see him in the starting line up.

Maybe he is tired, or just had an off day in Eindhoven, but he could prove instrumental vs Juve...the major difference between Juve and PSV is pace, or in Juve´s case, the lack thereof...man for man in the middle, Juve have no real speed merchants of the likes of Farfan and Park, so Seedorf may have a little more time to do what he does on the ball....I refuse to believe that Carlo wont consider him to start, as poorly as he may have performed in Holland.

What I do hope for is a start for Rui Costa, hopefully for Clarence, who as I intimated before, seems a little spent...and understandably so...he has played in almost every match for us this season, and at his age, could be simply fatigued.

Sheva and JDT will probably start, though I think Carlo may opt for Crespo....but its late in the day in Jamaica, and my mind reading powers are fading..or Carlo is wearing that stupid lead lined hat again...

Gattuso, Pirlo are definate starters, and the back line will be a repeat of yesterdays semi final four.

Milan will win this match, and Juve will rue the day they allowed us back into the race.

FORZA MIIIIIIIIIIIILAN!!!

MIRZA · 05-05-2005, 17:30

I'm worried for this game, because our players are very tired especially our midfield players Pirlo, Gattuso, Seedorf...
I don't know what will Carlo do, maybe he will change some players to rest them. I hope that everything will be good, and that we will win, but it will be very hard.
FORZA MILAN!!!!

Rosso6 · 05-05-2005, 18:34

I believe we win this game. Milan is far more balanced team that Juve, and for those of you worried after PSV; do not be afraid. juve will suffer our wrath. this our chance to breakaway.
Forza Milan

meazza · 06-05-2005, 05:11

what's the betting this game is a draw and nothing is decided?

that's the feeling I'm getting.

mrki · 06-05-2005, 06:22

Capello lost last year with roma coz milan was playing better than this season, anyway I would give everithing for milan to win on sunday but im afraid it will be really tough. We NEED pirlo back!! He is not himself , hope he'll be back as real pirlo. Seedorf will be ok,he'll play well, so will maldini. We can do it, just with a lot of effort and a little bit of luck ( if there is some left...hehe ). Forza MILAN!!!

devoted_dm · 06-05-2005, 06:34

Here are some statistics before Sunday's match (I apologize if these have already been posted):

MILAN - JUVENTUS

Matches played 70
Wins(Milan) 24
Draws 30
Defeats 16
Goals
Scored 102
Conceded 86

Results from the past ten years:

1994/95 02/04/95 Milan Juventus 0-2
Ravanelli, Vialli
1995/96 15/10/95 Milan Juventus 2-1
Simone, Weah, Del Piero
1996/97 06/04/97 Milan Juventus 1-6
Jugovic (2), Zidane ®, Vieri (2), Amoruso, Simone
1997/98 30/11/97 Milan Juventus 1-1
Ferrara (aut.), Inzaghi
1998/99 06/01/99 Milan Juventus 1-1
Albertini ®, Fonseca
1999/00 24/03/00 Milan Juventus 2-0
Shevchenko (2)
2000/01 21/10/00 Milan Juventus 2-2
Ambrosini, Shevchenko, Trezeguet, Conte
2001/02 09/12/01 Milan Juventus 1-1
Shevchenko, Del Piero ®
2002/03 22/03/03 Milan Juventus 2-1
Shevchenko, Nedved, Inzaghi
2003/04 01/11/03 Milan Juventus 1-1
Tomasson, Di Vaio

Ancelotti vs Capello

Matches played 19
Capello's wins 2
Draws 8
Ancelotti's wins 9

Capello vs Milan
Matches played 15
Capello's win 2
Draws 6
Milan's wins 7

Ancelotti vs Juventus
Matches played 15
Ancelotti's wins 3
Draws 9
Juventus's wins 3

My thoughts on the game: I think we all realize that we can't play like we did against PSV in this match. This is the most important match of the season so far, and we need a good performance by our lads, because we have to get three points to gain the necessary advantage on Juve.

I think they key to winning this match is pace. I want us to put pressure on Juve's midfield to win the ball when they are in possession, and then hit them fast on the break with accurate through balls to Kaka and Sheva. For this to work, it is especially important that Pirlo and Gattuso are at their best, and that Seedorf doesn't have "one of those days." I would also love to see Tomasson partner Sheva up front, as he seems to be enjoying a good spell of form.

My preferred lineup: Dida; Kaladze, Maldini, Nesta, Stam; Pirlo; Seedorf, Gattuso; Kaka; Shevchenko, Tomasson.

ROSSONERI SIAMO NOI!!!

savicevic · 06-05-2005, 06:37

guys, a draw wouldn't be a bad result because in the last 6 leagues we've won, in all 6 occasions (except 1995/96 when simone and weak scored in a 2-1 win), milan-juventus finished in a draw. so, statistically, a draw isn't bad after all.

what i feel confident to say is that milan have never disappointed us in a big game against strong and big opposition* in the ancelotti era. WE WILL NOT LOSE!!

* by big opposition i refer to the likes of inter, juve, lazio, roma and the big guns of europe.

savicevic · 06-05-2005, 06:41

btw, everyone is forgetting pippo inzaghi these days. i say he's dead hungry to play the odd few minutes and leave his mark. i think he will be decisive.

everyone is saying how lucky we are ... and inzaghi has scored some very lucky goals (i remember one vs milan after a taibi blunder, one with juve vs rosenborg after a davids shot hit him, one vs milan in the berlusconi cup when a shot by taibi hit him in the face and went it). so pippo, bring us some more luck. coz luck favours the brave.

Dave · 06-05-2005, 06:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by savicevic

btw, everyone is forgetting pippo inzaghi these days. i say he's dead hungry to play the odd few minutes and leave his mark. i think he will be decisive.

everyone is saying how lucky we are ... and inzaghi has scored some very lucky goals (i remember one vs milan after a taibi blunder, one with juve vs rosenborg after a davids shot hit him, one vs milan in the berlusconi cup when a shot by taibi hit him in the face and went it). so pippo, bring us some more luck. coz luck favours the brave.

Yes I agree with you! Ibra will not play it`s a good chance to beat Juve(Bcoz Trezegeut could not play too or if plays don`t well)

I.M.O. · 06-05-2005, 16:14

savisevic i must say that i dont agree with you.
i think that the only good result for us is to win them.
if we go at the play offs our players will be very tired
dont forget this is the 10th game in a month already.

we're playing home and this is our great chance to get the double!

mrki · 06-05-2005, 16:35

I also dont think that draw would be enough, juve will win it all untill the end, and we have lecce,palermo and udinese.
If we win it, than we need only a point from udinese match and can relax some players in the palermo game in front of the istanbul final. So, we need to win it. We need seedorf and pirlo in top form but we can also let juve play for a while and try some long balls from pirlo if the passing and holding position doesnt work at the beggining. Tomasson could start aldough crespo hasnt scored for a while and its about time to do so...there will be some cross balls so crespo could be usefull.

sam_3 · 06-05-2005, 18:52

Boy do i hate this team. I hate Juventus from all my guts. I hope we crush them in the Sansinro on sunday.
Forza milan and I hope the celebrations begin on sunday 5pm gmt.

ac_milan_foreva · 06-05-2005, 20:49

y is this game played during the day, not during the night like all the derbies are played?

ASHWIN · 06-05-2005, 22:20

Most of us feel that the match against Juve is not decisive.If u ask me,this by far the most important game of the season.Our last game of the season is against our bogey team Udinese and they are chasing for a European spot.I hope that Milan will play their hearts out today.Rui Costa and Crespo must play against Juve.They have a thing for big games

Dave · 07-05-2005, 05:51

I hope to celebrate Milan`s victory over f.....n Juve! In 9th May is a great day victory against German`s in II World War! Forza Milan!!!!!!!

05-05-2005, 16:59	#136
Warro Bantan Moderator Join Date: 08 1999 Location: Kingston, Jamaica Fave Players: Rui Costa, Pirlo, Pato	I will restrict my comments to the pending match, and avoid the quagmire of conspiracy theories being espoused here. Juve will undoubtedly have the better physical conditioning, though I think Milan will recover in time to give them their money´s worth, and I dont think to see a replay of the last two Milan games (ie vs Viola and PSV) in this potential title decider. Milan will be totally focused on this game, and I look for Carlo to revert to his regular diamond in the middle, and probably drop Seedorf for this match, though I really wouldnt be surprised to see him in the starting line up. Maybe he is tired, or just had an off day in Eindhoven, but he could prove instrumental vs Juve...the major difference between Juve and PSV is pace, or in Juve´s case, the lack thereof...man for man in the middle, Juve have no real speed merchants of the likes of Farfan and Park, so Seedorf may have a little more time to do what he does on the ball....I refuse to believe that Carlo wont consider him to start, as poorly as he may have performed in Holland. What I do hope for is a start for Rui Costa, hopefully for Clarence, who as I intimated before, seems a little spent...and understandably so...he has played in almost every match for us this season, and at his age, could be simply fatigued. Sheva and JDT will probably start, though I think Carlo may opt for Crespo....but its late in the day in Jamaica, and my mind reading powers are fading..or Carlo is wearing that stupid lead lined hat again... Gattuso, Pirlo are definate starters, and the back line will be a repeat of yesterdays semi final four. Milan will win this match, and Juve will rue the day they allowed us back into the race. FORZA MIIIIIIIIIIIILAN!!! __________________ I Love Milan.

05-05-2005, 17:30	#137
MIRZA Moderator Join Date: 02 2004 Location: Srebrenik (BiH) Fave Players: Pirlo,Sheva,Topic, Kaladze, Papac, Salihovic	I'm worried for this game, because our players are very tired especially our midfield players Pirlo, Gattuso, Seedorf... I don't know what will Carlo do, maybe he will change some players to rest them. I hope that everything will be good, and that we will win, but it will be very hard. FORZA MILAN!!!! __________________ Digni se iz pepela, kao sto put do sada, sad s mirisom ljiljana, ljubavi moja....

05-05-2005, 18:34	#138
Rosso6 Registered User Join Date: 11 2003 Location: USA Fave Players: Donadoni, Nesta, Paolo, Kaka,Desailly,Redondo	I believe we win this game. Milan is far more balanced team that Juve, and for those of you worried after PSV; do not be afraid. juve will suffer our wrath. this our chance to breakaway. Forza Milan __________________ Milano Per Siempre

06-05-2005, 05:11	#139
meazza Registered User Join Date: 03 2001 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Fave Players: maldini	what's the betting this game is a draw and nothing is decided? that's the feeling I'm getting. __________________ I've had Delia Smith.

06-05-2005, 06:37	#142
savicevic Registered User Join Date: 04 2005 Location: Malta	guys, a draw wouldn't be a bad result because in the last 6 leagues we've won, in all 6 occasions (except 1995/96 when simone and weak scored in a 2-1 win), milan-juventus finished in a draw. so, statistically, a draw isn't bad after all. what i feel confident to say is that milan have never disappointed us in a big game against strong and big opposition* in the ancelotti era. WE WILL NOT LOSE!! * by big opposition i refer to the likes of inter, juve, lazio, roma and the big guns of europe. Last edited by savicevic; 06-05-2005 at 12:29.

06-05-2005, 06:22	#140
mrki Registered User Join Date: 04 2005 Location: Croatia Fave Players: Maldini, Boban, Inzaghi	Capello lost last year with roma coz milan was playing better than this season, anyway I would give everithing for milan to win on sunday but im afraid it will be really tough. We NEED pirlo back!! He is not himself , hope he'll be back as real pirlo. Seedorf will be ok,he'll play well, so will maldini. We can do it, just with a lot of effort and a little bit of luck ( if there is some left...hehe ). Forza MILAN!!!

06-05-2005, 06:34	#141
devoted_dm Registered User Join Date: 09 2000 Location: Norway Fave Players: Pirlo, Nesta, Gattuso and Roberto Baggio	Here are some statistics before Sunday's match (I apologize if these have already been posted): MILAN - JUVENTUS Matches played 70 Wins(Milan) 24 Draws 30 Defeats 16 Goals Scored 102 Conceded 86 Results from the past ten years: 1994/95 02/04/95 Milan Juventus 0-2 Ravanelli, Vialli 1995/96 15/10/95 Milan Juventus 2-1 Simone, Weah, Del Piero 1996/97 06/04/97 Milan Juventus 1-6 Jugovic (2), Zidane ®, Vieri (2), Amoruso, Simone 1997/98 30/11/97 Milan Juventus 1-1 Ferrara (aut.), Inzaghi 1998/99 06/01/99 Milan Juventus 1-1 Albertini ®, Fonseca 1999/00 24/03/00 Milan Juventus 2-0 Shevchenko (2) 2000/01 21/10/00 Milan Juventus 2-2 Ambrosini, Shevchenko, Trezeguet, Conte 2001/02 09/12/01 Milan Juventus 1-1 Shevchenko, Del Piero ® 2002/03 22/03/03 Milan Juventus 2-1 Shevchenko, Nedved, Inzaghi 2003/04 01/11/03 Milan Juventus 1-1 Tomasson, Di Vaio Ancelotti vs Capello Matches played 19 Capello's wins 2 Draws 8 Ancelotti's wins 9 Capello vs Milan Matches played 15 Capello's win 2 Draws 6 Milan's wins 7 Ancelotti vs Juventus Matches played 15 Ancelotti's wins 3 Draws 9 Juventus's wins 3 My thoughts on the game: I think we all realize that we can't play like we did against PSV in this match. This is the most important match of the season so far, and we need a good performance by our lads, because we have to get three points to gain the necessary advantage on Juve. I think they key to winning this match is pace. I want us to put pressure on Juve's midfield to win the ball when they are in possession, and then hit them fast on the break with accurate through balls to Kaka and Sheva. For this to work, it is especially important that Pirlo and Gattuso are at their best, and that Seedorf doesn't have "one of those days." I would also love to see Tomasson partner Sheva up front, as he seems to be enjoying a good spell of form. My preferred lineup: Dida; Kaladze, Maldini, Nesta, Stam; Pirlo; Seedorf, Gattuso; Kaka; Shevchenko, Tomasson. ROSSONERI SIAMO NOI!!!

06-05-2005, 06:41	#143
savicevic Registered User Join Date: 04 2005 Location: Malta	btw, everyone is forgetting pippo inzaghi these days. i say he's dead hungry to play the odd few minutes and leave his mark. i think he will be decisive. everyone is saying how lucky we are ... and inzaghi has scored some very lucky goals (i remember one vs milan after a taibi blunder, one with juve vs rosenborg after a davids shot hit him, one vs milan in the berlusconi cup when a shot by taibi hit him in the face and went it). so pippo, bring us some more luck. coz luck favours the brave.

06-05-2005, 16:14	#145
I.M.O. Registered User Join Date: 04 2005 Location: Greece Fave Players: Sheva,Kaka,Nesta...	savisevic i must say that i dont agree with you. i think that the only good result for us is to win them. if we go at the play offs our players will be very tired dont forget this is the 10th game in a month already. we're playing home and this is our great chance to get the double!

06-05-2005, 16:35	#146
mrki Registered User Join Date: 04 2005 Location: Croatia Fave Players: Maldini, Boban, Inzaghi	I also dont think that draw would be enough, juve will win it all untill the end, and we have lecce,palermo and udinese. If we win it, than we need only a point from udinese match and can relax some players in the palermo game in front of the istanbul final. So, we need to win it. We need seedorf and pirlo in top form but we can also let juve play for a while and try some long balls from pirlo if the passing and holding position doesnt work at the beggining. Tomasson could start aldough crespo hasnt scored for a while and its about time to do so...there will be some cross balls so crespo could be usefull.

06-05-2005, 18:52	#147
sam_3 Registered User Join Date: 11 2002 Fave Players: maldini	Boy do i hate this team. I hate Juventus from all my guts. I hope we crush them in the Sansinro on sunday. Forza milan and I hope the celebrations begin on sunday 5pm gmt.

06-05-2005, 20:49	#148
ac_milan_foreva Registered User Join Date: 01 2005 Location: Chicago, USA, but born in Bulgaria Fave Players: Sheva, Pirlo, Gattuso, Nesta, Maldini, Bojinov,	y is this game played during the day, not during the night like all the derbies are played? __________________

06-05-2005, 22:20	#149
ASHWIN Registered User Join Date: 11 2004	Most of us feel that the match against Juve is not decisive.If u ask me,this by far the most important game of the season.Our last game of the season is against our bogey team Udinese and they are chasing for a European spot.I hope that Milan will play their hearts out today.Rui Costa and Crespo must play against Juve.They have a thing for big games

07-05-2005, 05:51	#150
Dave Registered User Join Date: 02 2004 Location: Armenia,Yerevan Fave Players: All Milan squad+Ronaldinho	I hope to celebrate Milan`s victory over f.....n Juve! In 9th May is a great day victory against German`s in II World War! Forza Milan!!!!!!! __________________ ROSSONERO SINCE BIRTH AND WILL BE UNTILL DEATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rossoneri PER SEMPRE!!!!

Warro Bantan

MIRZA

Rosso6

meazza

mrki

devoted_dm

savicevic

savicevic

Dave

I.M.O.

mrki

sam_3

ac_milan_foreva

ASHWIN

Dave