AC Milan vs Juventus (game & post-game comments)

Originally Posted by Helena

3 games left of the season. I hope Silvio & Co will not create kaos within the club/team, even if he is mad right now. They have to stay calm and focoused, and also hope that Juve will loose a game or two.

i agree. i think they will because they always yank carlo's chains after bad games. however, carlo was at fault.

Silvio Berlusconi was also at the match...and I hope he makes an announcement like:


" Ancelotti should rest the players well for the most important match of the season, the UEFA Champions League Final...Let Juve have the Scudetto, we will go for the bigger prize "

Originally Posted by Nadir

My analysis:

1) Juve deserved to win this game. They absorbed the pressure well and did not play dirty. Congrats.

2) The fitness levels have to be taken into consideration. The week has been very taxing for Milan and eventually something had to give - travelling to and from Holland, playing a tough game in Eindhoven etc...would definitely make any team tired.

3) I have to lay the blame on this defeat on Carlo for the following reasons:
3a. Why Tomasson instead of Crespo? Crespo should have started this game considering he was rested against PSV!!

3b. And why did he bring in Pippo instead of Crespo when he subbed JDT? What was Carlo thinking? A player who barely match fit to take on a critical scudetto match???

3c. Seedorf is having a BAD BAD spell now. I can see that. My cat can see that. Carlo can't see it? Rui Costa or Ambrosini should have been playing from the start instead of Seedorf.

3d. Why was Pirlo subbed? Was he injured?

4. Moggi can shutup about the conspiracy theories as not 1, not 2, but 3 penalty appeals go unheeded.

5. Buffon's fist pumping attitude is sickening but I am not going to criticise him for it because he is not an a...hole

Congrats Juve for the scudetto title.

I don't agree about Juventus being deserved. But talking about deserveness is stupid becuase they won. All I can say is that they are not in anyway better than Milan, except for taking chances, for today.

2) No. Fitness is not an excuse this game. You see Cafu running up all the time and you know that it's not fitness that make us lose today.

3) And what's wrong with Carlo? Crespo is slightly injured that's why he is not playing. And I thought that they talked about it a few days ago. Further, Inzaghi almost scrored with his first touch. So whta are you complaining?

4) It's awful seriously. Juventus is always getting the better deal. Collina, or whoever... as a Milan fan, I'm not going to use conspiracy theory. But we all know what happen about all those penalty. Cafu's shirt got tugged from behind is the worst ever you have seen from Juventus. But I'm not going to talk about it. We all know what happen.



But I see a Milan side that is fighting till the end. And I dont' think milan is playing poor like in Holland. I think they overall did well today. Except for the idiotic bicycle cross from Del Peiro that 99 times go to row Z and this time as a cross.

They are just lucky, but as I said, they scored a goal and we didn't. They took their chances while Milan didn't. Thats' all.

Originally Posted by predatorfc

Silvio Berlusconi was also at the match...and I hope he makes an announcement like:


" Ancelotti should rest the players well for the most important match of the season, the UEFA Champions League Final...Let Juve have the Scudetto, we will go for the bigger prize "

that would only make sense but let's have some self respect. We are Milan not Inter. We will fight on all fronts and never give in.

A few seasons ago, Inter were second against Milan and threw in the towel a few games before the end saying "congrats Milan, you won it". We are not like that. we will fight till the end. juve will lose one game at least

Originally Posted by Snapster

What, we should learn to give up going after trophies? That's deplorable, we should be competing on all levels, we used to do it and we should be able to do it. Hell if Manure can win the treble with more matches than we play, why shouldn't we.

I'm extremely angry will all the fitness excuses. Yes we had 10 games in 30 days, we knew we would but was anything done about it? NO. Blame falls on Ancelotti for not rotating.

Agree with your first part, not with the second part. Seghinio is fresh and its no coincidence he was our best player. Dont know what Ancelotti was thinking of by taking mr irreplaceable (Pirlo) off. First he tried to put Seedorf in his role then Rui, just leave Pirlo on and take seedorf off for God's sake. Collina you old bastard do us all a favour retire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

While some of you are saying we should now just concentrate on the CL title, may I remind you that even that is not a gurantee! We should still try our best to attain both Scudetto and CL. It is going to be hard and we'll never know what can happen to Juve at this point. We did however mess up on this golden oppurtunity to buy us some time and room to concentrate on both titles. I kinda can see why many feel that we should just concentrate on the CL now.

Screw all f***ing italian refs. It has been proved that there is no such thing as a honest ref when juv is playing. Milan didn't do anything wrong in this game ****ing juv don't desreve to win. If we don't win the league this year i am going to buy the milan jersey for next season and put the scudetto patch on it cuz we are the real winners in the league none should top us if it wasn't for all reffering "mistakes" that went u juv's way!!!!!!!!!

im angry too... but yeah, the ref aside, they had chances and didnt score. We had enough luck against PSV.

Forget all the concentrating business. We play Lecce next week and there is no harm in taking it out on them. Then we play Livorno (I think) which may be postponed, if not we obviously have to rest the players. Then the Final where we will hopefully see the real Milan. Then Udinese where again we can give it our all.

its funny though, since the players have been talking about every game being a final we seem to be losing them all. Whats gona happen when we play the real damn final

A team that fights and wins the game deserves the win. Let's not be sore losers (like Inter) and say Juve didn't deserve it. They played well, they defended well and the goal was good. Kudos to them.

To say fitness is not an issue is ridiculous. just because cafu was running up and down the field doesn't mean the team is well rested. remember, they had to play fiorentina, psv and juve in the space of 10 days. two of those games were away. YES fitness plays a big part.

As for Crespo, the commentators never mentioned an injury to crespo. If he was injured why was he on the bench? I didn't hear about this. of course, if he was injured, then i take it back.

Inzaghi may have almost scored with his first touch but he didn't. It was a good attempt but I think a sharper Inzaghi, or a more match fit Inzaghi, or Crespo, if he wasn't injured or Sheva, would have scored from that chance. Not just that, Inzaghi did very little in the rest of the game.

Originally Posted by Jeff

I don't agree about Juventus being deserved. But talking about deserveness is stupid becuase they won. All I can say is that they are not in anyway better than Milan, except for taking chances, for today.

2) No. Fitness is not an excuse this game. You see Cafu running up all the time and you know that it's not fitness that make us lose today.

3) And what's wrong with Carlo? Crespo is slightly injured that's why he is not playing. And I thought that they talked about it a few days ago. Further, Inzaghi almost scrored with his first touch. So whta are you complaining?

4) It's awful seriously. Juventus is always getting the better deal. Collina, or whoever... as a Milan fan, I'm not going to use conspiracy theory. But we all know what happen about all those penalty. Cafu's shirt got tugged from behind is the worst ever you have seen from Juventus. But I'm not going to talk about it. We all know what happen.



But I see a Milan side that is fighting till the end. And I dont' think milan is playing poor like in Holland. I think they overall did well today. Except for the idiotic bicycle cross from Del Peiro that 99 times go to row Z and this time as a cross.

They are just lucky, but as I said, they scored a goal and we didn't. They took their chances while Milan didn't. Thats' all.

It wasn't an idiotic cross by Del Piero. It showed he didn't give up. It went to the intended target - stam and maldini were asleep and they scored.

man we have no one to blame but ourselves. i really dont have anything to say and dont feel like talking about it....

Originally Posted by K77SH C

Forget all the concentrating business. We play Lecce next week and there is no harm in taking it out on them. Then we play Livorno (I think) which may be postponed, if not we obviously have to rest the players. Then the Final where we will hopefully see the real Milan. Then Udinese where again we can give it our all.

its funny though, since the players have been talking about every game being a final we seem to be losing them all. Whats gona happen when we play the real damn final

winning it.

Originally Posted by sam_3

Screw all f***ing italian refs. It has been proved that there is no such thing as a honest ref when juv is playing. Milan didn't do anything wrong in this game ****ing juv don't desreve to win. If we don't win the league this year i am going to buy the milan jersey for next season and put the scudetto patch on it cuz we are the real winners in the league none should top us if it wasn't for all reffering "mistakes" that went u juv's way!!!!!!!!!

Good idea!!

Who would carlo rotate with???

should Brocchi, costacurta, Ambrosini, Inzaghi be starting?

the only one is Serginho should be playing instead of seedorf these days, but we don't have the players to rotate. Rui Costa cannot offer you what Kaka can, Ambro does not offer what gattuso can and there's not even replacements for what Shevchenko, Cafu or Pirlo can.

Ancellotti dosn't have a rotating squad. can you imagine if we lost without playing Shecchenko??? he's be rightfully crucified. he did make the mistake of putting Inzaghi on over Crespo I think but who knows maybe crespo wouldn't have got in the positions.

I'm sick of Carlo criticism here. he takes over from a long line of crap coaches and instantly gets us in the CL, 2nd season, he wins the CL, 3rd he wins the league, 4th he is 5 games from winning both, ok it looks unlikely we'll get serie a now but still to get so close. it's of note no other team did aswell on both fronts, liverpool are finishing 5th?!?!?! and everyone else is out of the CL.

Next week:
Juventus - Parma
Lecce - Milan

Juve could lose this game with Gilardino in form.

After that:
Livorno - Juventus
Milan - Palermo

Donadoni promised Milan he would beat Juve. We still have hope

It's just a psychological blow to Milan. How many times have we fallen 3 points behind Juve this season and caught up? Heck we were 8 points behind in one week and caught up. Why can't we do it again? Juve are not gods. They may lose one of the three upcoming games. it can very well happen.
I believe